What happened to space exploration? NASA’s new project predicts the end of civilization

Remember when NASA used to send people to the moon? Well, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration as you had come to know it is a thing of the past. Now, NASA is predicting the end of Western civilization because of – get this – over population, depleted resources, and wealth distribution.

“It’s the end of the world as we know it. Now, don’t start mocking this. This is coming from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center,” Glenn joked on radio this morning. “The study, which had been accepted now for publication in the peer-reviewed Elsevier journal, Ecological Economics, says civilized nations of the world, in their pursuit of energy resources, have created an unsustainable model that is doomed to implode on itself, creating a power vacuum and chaos.”

According to the Guardian, this research project is based on a new cross-disciplinary ‘Human And Nature DYnamical’ (HANDY) model, led by applied mathematician Safa Motesharrei of the National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center, in association with a team of natural and social scientists.

Using historical data, the study claims “the process of rise-and-collapse is actually a recurrent cycle found throughout history.” In fact, cases of severe civilizational disruption due to “precipitous collapse – often lasting centuries – have been quite common.” When it comes to the potential for a collapse today, the study looks at risk factors like population, climate, water, agriculture, and energy.

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“Do you see what this is? Do you see what this is? This is nothing more than our government spending money on bogus science… to do two things: To tell you that you have to have a global structural change away from capitalism,” Glenn said. “Collapse is coming, guys. But it has nothing to do with the world’s resources. It has everything to do with being unhinged from reality. It also has everything to do with the coming technological storm.”

As Glenn explained, much like the progressive movement in general, this study pretends to be forward thinking. In reality, this is a rehash of decades’ old idea that has been proven false time and time again. Centralized control doesn’t work, and yet that is what this study essentially advocates.

“These guys, they say they are for progress. These are the most anti-progress people I have ever seen, ever,” Glenn said. “They are living in the Stone Age. They are holding together some system that was brought forth by a crazy man in the 1850s that’s been discredited every single time. They want to go back to centralized control.”

When you consider taxpayer dollars were used to fund research projects like this, one has to wonder what service NASA actually provides anymore. This morning, Glenn found himself actually calling for the defunding of NASA because it has outlived its usefulness.

“When we saw that NASA’s main mission was changed from exploration to telling the Muslim world how great they are, we should have called for the banning or dissolving of NASA. That’s not something I call for lightly, but shut it down. Shut it down,” Glenn concluded. “This is taking NASA and trying to fit them into an organ to play the music of Karl Marx. That’s all this is. NASA should be defunded right now.”

Front page image courtesy of the AP

  • Anonymous

    From the top down, this govt. and administration is just a drain on the people of our country. They contribute nothing, this failed preverted ideology is an infection to us, our children, and the future of this country.

  • landofaahs

    There is another prediction which I believe in. It’s the prediction that Jesus Christ will come and put an end to “civilization” as we know it. He will establish his kingdom and put an end to all human foolishness. But Jesus said that unless those days be shortened there would be no flesh left alive. That was considered ludicrous by some in his day, today, not so much.

  • Jmr Ramos

    Why is it that only a handful of people realize or “act upon” the ridiculousness of this administration? What does it have to take to affect every single one of us before we all decide, collectively, that enough is enough?!

  • Anti Fabian

    Over population is such a lie. You can take the western United States from the Mississippi River, to the Pacific, and from Canada down to Mexico and the Gulf, and within that area there are more than a billion acres. An acre is the size of a football field without the end zones. The worlds population is around 7 Billion+? Lets say 8 Billion to be safe. That means you could take the entire worlds population and place all 8 Billion people inside the borders of the western USA, and there would be an acre for every 8 people, and the rest of the world would be empty. So tell me again how over populated the world is? Sure, the cities are over crowded, but the world has plenty of room and to spare! It also has plenty of resources and to spare. Shortage of resources are not because of a lack. They are because of power and greed by Progressive governments in league with giant Progressive Corporations.

  • Johnstoirvin

    The “HANDY” model used in this study is a computer program similar to the “climate models” used to foretell climate change. Think of both of them as complicated and more involved versions of the simple algebraic formula “A x B = C.” If A and B are proven, known values, then the value of “C” is accurate and the only possible answer.
    However, if “A” and/or “B” are anything less than proven facts, then they MUST be estimates, approximations or guesses, which means the answer, “C,” MUST be the result of an estimate, approximation or guess, which is exactly the type of information that is used often in those computer models, simply because they don’t have proven values. The results of those computer models are NOT scientific fact nor are they gospel! It boils down to this: without “A” and “B” being absolute known quantities, any agenda-driven values can be inserted to result in virtually any value for “C” that is desired to support that agenda. This is but one more of a never-ending list of examples of how the ignorance of most people is easily manipulated….. and then they vote and we’re all screwed!

  • Glenn Macleod

    CAPITAL PUNISHMENT ISSUE SOLVED..
    We now have lasers that can cut through anything in an instant. With over
    50,000,000 abortions to date, many using scissors to dispatch the spinal column,
    what about a laser to do the same process, but with lightspeed. No chemicals,
    no pain issues and really cheap… Process can be performed at a local clinic,
    and with experience with of 50 million (without ONE complaint), it would be considered
    as humane as abortion is today.. Quick, cheap, and as the Supreme Court has
    decided… Quite legal.. Abort now, or abort later. .As Hillary has stated ” What
    difference would it make”..? She’s correct.

  • Mike Nicholes

    Well, they are right about civilizations going and coming in cycles, but they have the wrong metrics for why and what is going to happen to this one… and when.

  • brew2@msn.com

    I predict the end of NASA

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like obama has ordered NASA scientists what to say and do. Corrupt administration.

  • Anonymous

    I want a refund.

  • Anonymous

    If you wanted to get people to turn on each other, what better way than to put fear into them. What better way to have them turn a blind eye to mass murder of millions. The elerderly and the handicapped would be first. Hmm, heard that before. It worked in the past and as long as their are people who can be used to drink the kool-aide it will work again. There is nothing new under the sun.

  • harrison j. bounel

    you think nasa has nothing much to do now that there are no shuttles? seems like it. will they be taking up globar warming next or obamacare?

    speaking of obamacare ……

    you can keep your doctor. period. you can keep your policy. period. you will save $2500 per family……all lies lies and more lies from the beginning.
    can i believe anything else coming out of this white house???
    as a life long democrat i suggest the obama administration and democratic senate scramble to grunt obamacare into the toliet and flush it like you would any unwanted feces. it’s that bad. if they can not see this, they are in denial and doomed to being the minority party in the future. take care of the few that have no insurance and get out of the way for the rest. why are you screwing 90% to help the 10%??? and 9 out of 10 of the poor this was meant for want nothing to do with it…… , no $2500 dollar savings for anyone. most are double triple increases, unless you are poor and on medicaid that gives substandard care. time to wake up my fellow democrats……time to wake up. this turd needs to be flushed

  • buck

    These computer models , just as with all the ” global Warming ” computer models are ALL designed to give the ” scientists ” the phony results they want and need to push their New World Order or one world government agenda , and is nothing more than a huge expansion of ” agenda 21 ” , already in progress through the United nations auspices of ” sustainable Development ” . They do it for the big government paychecks , not because there is any thing scientific about it .

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t they just spring $4.95 for a copy of Thomas Malthus’ “An Essay on the Principle of Population,” written in about 1800, and which reached similar conclusions? After all, Malthus was a big fan of Rousseau, and that sure ended well. These “intellectuals” just keep selling society the same line of garbage, and never give up . . . why on Earth does anyone keep buying?

  • Anonymous

    So whatever happened to Muslim outreach?

  • http://www.MARVINFOX.com/ Marvin E. Fox

    Liberals cannot seem to grasp this simple fact for seeking the knowledge of true purpose. Locking out undesirable knowledge that is correct, locks in desirable knowledge that is incorrect.
    Truth has no agenda. Truth is the measure of the value of every agenda.
    Marvin Fox

  • Anonymous

    They got one. But they paid $4 billion for it.

  • ANTHONY CLIFFORD

    You know, we need to allow private enterprise to give the exploration of space a shot. They have already made the first completely reusable spacecraft. And should have space tourists doing suborbital flights in the next decade. There is money to be made in the exploration of space, and a keen business man will figure out how to make it.

    Exploration of the Americas were done initially by trading companies. Columbus was trying to find a new shipping route to the far east, he found the Caribbean instead. The East India Trading Company explored most of what is now the east coast of the United States, in order to find a quick path to china. A lot of these were failures, but an enterprising businessman can turn a failure into a triumph.

    Stepping out into the unknown isn’t what government is good at doing. Thinking outside the box is discouraged in government. That is why you wouldn’t want them to venture into the unknown. Business excels at innovation. That’s who will be successful in the black of space.

  • Anonymous

    I think it is ridiculous that people don’t own their eyes and see Yes See what Obama and company are doing to destroy this country.
    He is giving our livelihood away. What this country is made of. God help us for or children and their children. Wake up America
    Sign Worried

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72EnfFysPFE Connor

    I miss the good old days of NASA instead of the genocidal NASA of today.

  • Lowell

    Is this the same NASA that said that the global temperature was not rising, and then for some strange reason scrubbed all of that from its stories and started to bang the “global warming/climate change” drum?

  • Anonymous

    So, now that the Shuttles are in museums and the Cold War seems to have restarted, exactly how will we get to the ISS? NASA can’t do it…oh wait, we can hitch a ride with the Russians…oh wait, maybe not, how about the Chinese? And all this Obama’s first five years…

  • Anonymous

    If this does not reek of the Malthusian Agenda 21 project, what does?

  • Anonymous

    It’s all consensus paid for by govt.

  • Anonymous

    No you can’t say that.

  • SIRWIZARD

    So. This tells me that someone believes wealth distribution and population levels is ROCKET SCIENCE. I’m glad they didn’t think it was BRAIN SURGERY. On the other hand, ObamaCare might cover it if it was BRAIN SURGERY.

    I’m beginning to understand what makes a Liberal or a Progressive…They manage to have a brain, but no MIND (I suppose the brain makes good ballast for them). The main thing, though, is this…THEY DO NOT HAVE A BULLSH*T DETECTOR. They’ll believe ANYTHING!

  • Anonymous

    Whether in a city or a country isn’t that the goal of socialist community organizers . . . to live as they want and take what they think they deserve, but the rest of us have to live on the scraps. Hmm, isn’t that why people left Europe to come to the “new world”. . . to escape the tyranny of those who thought they were better than the rest and had the right to control their every thought and being?

  • Anonymous

    “When it comes to the potential for a collapse today, the study looks at
    risk factors like population, climate, water, agriculture, and energy.”

    I attended public school in the 1960′s and this was their song way back then. The planetary population was 2.5 billion and we were facing mass starvation due to out of control population growth and a shortage of arable land; potable water was scarce and nearly gone; we had reached peak oil and energy needs could not be met; climate change was inevitable making survival on Earth nearly impossible during the impending second ICE AGE.

    Today we are nearing 7 Billion people; we have found ways to produce more food per acre and found the water to grow it; the USA will likely begin exporting our excess oil in 2016 or 2017; climate hype flipped from ICE to HEAT but is actually stable. All in all we are doing pretty well inspite of eugenics and the broad push toward euthanasia. I will trust the “mother of invention” over pseudoscience every single time. If we are allowed to remain free and exorcise our entrepreneurial endeavors without hindrance then I think we have a fighting chance to have a good outcome. Praise God.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the Malthusian plan of Agenda 21.

  • Anonymous

    And this is the hippie utopian dream world who are running this country which is also ruining this once loved country all because we have an antiAmerican Islam terrorist as President who has always hated America!

  • Anonymous

    Illuminati my friend — Illuminati. They vowed they would get back what they lost because of the Revolutionary War. IRS and Federal Reserve are the tools they are using to seize all we have worked for.

  • 724willy

    A hardy AMEN to that landofaahs and anti-fabian.
    The Jesuits evil plan notwithstanding. Youtube Jesuit oath.

  • 724willy

    How about we start with you Glen M, Zapp, your mental problem solved.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and everything that pops into their vacuous brain is plausible, even if has been proven to fail many, many times in the past. They are the political and social Dodo birds of society.

  • Anonymous

    Its hard to convince the modern American, who has been brainwashed by our liberal school system, to see what NASA has become. It is nothing more than a propaganda machine for the Obama agenda. I agree with Glenn, NASA should be defuned because they are no longer into exploring space and bringing new technological products to us.

  • Anonymous

    So where do O’s interest lie?

  • Anonymous

    It’s time to end NASA.
    It seems has been corrupted at least at the top….I remember its last director ridicule statement about the role of NASA going nut to Muslim countries.
    We allowed America destruction… in total submission… Why?
    How could this happened? And still is going on…

  • Anonymous

    It’s now liberation theology.

  • Anonymous

    A usurper POTUS will ruin everything, especially when he’s a communist POS.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps NASA was providing evidence of the false climate warming. If the facts don’t fit the agenda, the program is useless.
    Tarpley’s take of the Malthusian philosophy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Eo2YTQUr8

  • Anonymous

    BUT I THOUGHT OBAMA WAS GONNA GIVE US HOPE AND CHANGE ……… WHAT IN THE WORLD HAPPENED???

  • Anonymous

    Seriously? Your ‘math’ doesn’t take in to consideration viable wilderness habitat area needed for wildlife, unmitigated wetlands, true (unlogged, ancient, total-ecosystem forests, or all the garbage and deadly chemicals we are saturating the world with. Plastics are breaking into particles and burying / killing coral reefs, sea birds are trying to eat (and dying from) plastic found floating in an increasingly fishless sea. http://americablog.com/2013/02/1200-miles-from-civilization-the-albatross-of-midway-are-dying-from-eating-manmade-plastic-video.html

    Think GLOBAL. We are living in a fantasy here in North America, mostly shielded from the worst of what’s going on in other nations – But that will only last so long. We are causing the 6th major extinction event in the planet’s history, logging the rain-forests to oblivion, the oceans have been swept clean by commercial trawlers (look at the size of charter-boat fishing catches last century as compared to now, the big reproductive, ecologically important fish are GONE), coral reefs are dying, extreme weather is becoming the ‘new normal’ and as our population mushrooms exponentially, all these new needy consumers want to live the unsustainable materialistic “American Dream”.

    The Earth (or any planet) simply can not sustain our greedy, destructive, ever-burgeoning GLOBAL population. And, the US is one of the most consumptive, exploiting, greedy on the planet. Check out this warning by a respected and admirably understated scientist: http://youtu.be/8x98KFcMJeo

    Now, before jumping all over me, please just, in the privacy of your own mind, actually, really consider this evidence. Even if (as some claim) our population will eventually ‘level off’, we are wreaking catastrophic and irreversible changes on the Earth because of the ways in which we live.

    I, for one, am heartbroken by the loss of species, the escalating, ugly ‘development’ eating up millions of acres of what used to be vital, vibrant, biodiverse countryside. I am human, just like you, yet MY world is being destroyed for the convenience and profit of people such as yourself.

    Caring for our planet should not be a political issue. Republicans used to support protections for species and the environment. Remember Harold Ickes, who designated the first truly roadless, non-exploited, non-hunted wilderness areas for perpetuity? http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/people/historical/ What’s happened to this party? HE is the kind of conservative we need back in office – Not the current bunch who make a living denying there are any problems besides ‘liberals’ then sacrificing everything in the name of profit. Please become part of the solution – Trying to convince people there’s nothing to worry about is reckless, irresponsible and dangerous.

  • Bob

    The predictions of NASA are based on present knowledge and conditions. I remember reading that in the late 1800′s or early 1900′s people in New York City made the following prediction based on the horse and carriage traffic at that time. They said that by 1950, you would not be able to move in the streets because they would be knee-deep in horse manure. They didn’t foresee the coming of the automobile.

  • Cal Baize

    Search on you tube for “demographic winter” and watch the documentaries. 70 countries are below the replacement fertility rates and the US is one of them. Meaning the birth rate is below the death rates.The U.S. fertility rate fell to record low in 2012, with 63.0 births per 1000 women ages 15 to 44 years old, U.S. deaths surpassed 2.5 million for the first time last year. We are not depopulating now but in the next 20 years we will. This is not a controversial subject by demographers. We do not need to worry about over population that was another giant science myth that started in the 70′s with the population bomb book.

  • Winston

    There are some places that are not livable and don’t have water but all in all, we are not overpopulated. We have too many dictators and greedy monsters that are calling the shots for everyone that are favorable to themselves. Execute them. They will never change and will always be a problem. They are governed by satan.

  • Diane H

    “over population, depleted resources, and wealth distribution”

    Are NASA and Agenda 21 one and the same, now?

  • Leah

    NASA has been supported, for the most part, by taxpayers.

  • Populist democrat

    Glenn Beck’s anti-science crusade for the corporate elite continues. Fact of the matter is, Beck is the opposite of a populist, a corporate shill to the bone. Find out what genuine populism is here:

    http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2014/02/papantonio-time-right-populist-movement-video/

  • Winston

    Wish I could remember where I read this, but have read that when God destroyed the world with a flood in the days of Noah, that there were 10 billion people on the earth, far more than there are today. Now some of you are going to poo-poo that but where I read it was actually quite a credible source(s). I only read credible sources with solid citations.

    Now, I am not the only one who knows this. There are plenty of people that know this but it is being suppressed because then their lies of overpopulation and green themes would become moot.

    The only thing that is true anymore is that deceit is rampant and will only get worse. “It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in man. It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in princes.” — Psalms 118:8-9 (ESV)

  • Winston

    Chill out. The government is lying to you. Don’t believe a word they say. Lying to you is in their favor. Who do you think they care about more? You or themselves? That answer should be obvious.

  • Winston

    I predict the end of the USA and soon.

  • Winston

    Everything is scripted to fit the global agenda.

  • Anonymous

    Goddard, mmm, GISS. Isn’t, or wasn’t that James Hansen’s bailiwick?
    They all suffer from the same disease.

  • Populist democrat

    People had better wake up, or we will see the collapse of civilization in our lifetimes. That does NOT mean allowing large corporations to wreck havoc on the environment in the name of profits. That does not mean buying gold from Goldline. That does not mean continuing to go down the road we’re on.

    Want to really wake up? Watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zQO7JytzQ

  • Winston

    Their tentacles run deep. Even local governments.

  • Populist democrat
  • Anonymous

    Sounds like Cass Sunstein has been working overtime.

  • Anonymous

    NASA’s earlier muslim outreach mission and this current report are connected. The follow-on report will undoubtedly tell us that islam is the cure. Good grief, are we down the rabbit hole or what?

  • Draco Morrison

    How will western civilization end?
    In 10 -20 years, most of the parasitic population will be purged
    The wisest and fittest, those who are stocking up supplies and ammo, will see a new Zion.
    For our kids, western civilization is just beginning.

  • PETER

    Simple question here: Given this new study was bought and paid for by our current administration, why was there such a push for the government controlled Affordable Healthcare Act for everyone if overpopulation is a key issue to our downfall? The only reason I can think of is the healthcare law was established specifically for population control. Of course, the whole death panel thing and mandatory birth control offerings pretty much clues you in on that. If we need to “thin the herd” in order to save ourselves, then dying healthy is just plain stupid. Besides, natural selection is sure to kick in at some point, preferably starting with the attorneys and politicians that stuck us with this Obamacare abortion.

  • Winston

    They are evil. I know. Here are some books you should read: “The Jesuit” by Malachi Martin, “50 Years in the Church of Rome” by Father Charles Chiniquy, “Windswept House” by Malachi Martin, “The Secret History of the Jesuits” by Edmond Paris, and “The Secret Terrorists” by Bill Hughes. There are more but this is a good start. Their oath is terrifying.

  • Anonymous

    What’s dangerous is mathematics (without science) masquerading as science. This is yet another case. Mathematics can rationalize a lot of things that science does not support. It wouldn’t surprise me if one day we learn by this modern form of mysticism that most people born on a certain birthday are a danger to humanity, and should therefor be eliminated. Nazi Germany got going in the same direction for the same reason.

  • Bret Wolz

    lets reduce the population of liberial educators

  • Mike Nelson

    Have you ever been on an airplane?

    Do you ever remember seeing that massive expanse of green/blue/white that is the entire world, when you look out of the window?

    There is a case to be made for the Earth, as we keep being told, being alive, just as may be the universe itself. It’s not going to die because one arrogant species, Mankind, derives benefit from use of resources, any more than it will die because T-Rex got too big to fail (don’t get smarmy here – it was an outside event ;)

    In my opinion, if you were serious about this perspective, you would endorse a cessation of the practice of sending food to places where people are starving, because THAT is a blight on the world. A RBE is a formula for turning people into resources, and when I say that, what I’m really saying is that, “…Soylent Green… it’s people!”

    The stated goal of NASA since 0bama took over has been to help the Muslim world understand their contributions, and use of a space agency for this purpose, as Iran is currently testing new long range missiles and is on the cusp of producing nuclear warheads capable of the wholesale slaughter of entire nations, now that, that is reckless, irresponsible, and dangerous.

  • Spartacus76

    The rocket scientists at NASA might be interested in this little fact before they start spouting this bilge… Less than 7% of the available land mass of the 48 contiguous states has been developed. The most recent data I could find was from 2008, but here’s what I’ve got for you:

    The United States has 1.93 billion acres of land:.

    Developed 7%
    Cropland 18%
    Pasture and range 36%
    Managed forest 12%
    Natural forest, desert, wetlands, etc. 27%

    Therefore, we can say that 93 percent of the 49 states are open space.

    Developed area of 7 percent or 210,000 square miles (the world’s highest amount, or about 21 percent of the world’s developed area of about 1 million square miles)…

    Urbanized and urban, 100,000 square miles…
    Exurban and rural settlement, 60,000 square miles…
    Transportation, utility corridors, waste disposal and mining sites, 50,000 square miles…

    80 percent of Americans are urban, or 240 million on 100,000 square miles, at a relatively low average urban density of 2,400 per square mile…

    20 percent of Americans are rural, either in scattered exurban patches, or more remote rural settlement, and this 60 million people on 60,000 square miles have a settlement pattern of 1,000 per square mile; lower due to the larger residential lot sizes.

    Another measure is pavement. About 50,000 square miles of the USA are paved over, with 40,000 in roads and parking, and 10,000 in houses and buildings; or, about 75 percent of the developed area of 210,000 square miles is vegetation, largely lawns but also wooded streams and scattered patches of open space within urban areas.

    Alaska has 600 million acres of land and is VERY sparsely populated and
    rather not farmed, so you’re right to worry that it throws off the statistics.
    Unfortunately I couldn’t find good numbers for alaska, but it has roughly one
    citizen per mile. In contrast, 22% or so of Massachusetts is developed land.
    So… NASA… Stick that on your launch pad & light it!

  • Anonymous

    It’s not our government alone that is failing. I’m sure that Glenn is rather miniscule compared to scientific studies of any type. Yes, we know what overpopulation means to a country and to our earth. Open your eyes and see why China is trying to curtail its population growth. Look what’s happening in African countries, where the average woman has more than six children in her life span. How many people in the world die of hunger every day? Can anybody imagine what the good old USA would look like with a population of a few billion people? How would you distribute them? How would you feed them? Just like many cultures disappeared before us, probably because of overpopulation, so will the planet one day….or sooner if WMDs get into the wrong hands of fanatics.

  • Libs R Stupid

    There are a lot of government funded entities that can be defunded–the IRS, TSA, Dept. of Education (a state issue IMHO), Dept. of Labor–(again a state responsibility) and privatize many of the agencies that can be run more efficiently and cheaper than the government could ever do.

  • Anonymous

    There is always a limit to everything. How much of the earth’s surface can accommodate the population as it is now expanding? Are you suggesting that food can be grown in city centers? Maybe we could grow food in deserts or the tundra too.

  • Libs R Stupid

    We don’t have to worry about overpopulation in this country. We have Democrats that LOVE and encourage abortion for just about any reason.

    We definitely wouldn’t have to worry about overpopulation if they decided to enforce our current immigration laws and keep the baby making machines from overloading the system with anchor babies.

  • Anonymous

    We look upon NASA as a space exploration group. However, let’s face it, it is composed of the best “brains” far superior to most of us here commenting. I always maintained that NASA should have been used to solve problems beyond space or aeronautics. How about putting those brains to work and explore some of the ideas of people such as Tesla and perpetual energy?

  • Steve Carnes

    Who do you think really wants less people-satan, that’s who, wake up sheeple!

  • Anonymous

    You can apply the same logic to ANY religion. Just look at the main religions today and they ALL preach their bible.

  • Anonymous

    Please, tell us who actually started the idea of taxes in the first place? Those are responsible for igniting this mess today.

  • Anonymous

    We have No Hope and No Change just hopeless change from our constitution to his dictatorship of the “citizens of the world” one world government of the utopian NewWorldOrder

  • Spartacus76

    As a matter of fact, “Yes”… Yes we can grow food in urban centers, the deserts & frozen tundra. It’s been done for a very, very long time. In fact, one might say that it is “settled science”!

  • Herb Shallcross

    Europe, Japan, private industry are taking over exploration and exploitation of outer space. We might as well cut NASA out of the budget altogether, since they have lost their way, and are unlikely to make any serious contribution again.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we here in North America are doing pretty well. Then why do so many people die of hunger in African countries. Why is China controllng their birth rate? Why do we see beggars right in our own backyard?

  • Anonymous

    Especially when our children are indoctrinated in their schools if progressiveRegressives! The Left took what worked in every progressive president for a hundred years and put it in their Marxist socialist antiAmerican TelePrompTer reader islam puppet president

  • Anonymous

    The left made the people uh sheeple distracted by the boobtube by taking over the media before the Islam terrorist was illegally elected president… Just like Hugo Chavez admin

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    politicians have to go, put the navy seals in command

  • Anonymous

    Yes, using the US stats means very little against countries like China or countries in Africa. The problem is that the ones who can afford population growth don’t have it, while the ones who can’t afford it are going out of control.

  • Anonymous

    Marxism at it’s best is all this is about. Make sure your children are taught correctly or they will believe all this garbage.

  • Rachel

    Agreed. That would be a HUGE contribution to progress.

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh, all that fertilizer and nothing to do with it. And we’re trying to predict our future today?

  • Anonymous

    And will probably go on no matter who people elect next.

  • Rachel

    I’d like to know exactly how many of these anti-progress NASA nutbags are appointees of the Obama administration.

  • Anonymous

    Any science fiction writer from over half a century ago could have told them that. They could have also told them the solution is to stop wasting money on stuff we already know and get humanity out into space.

  • Anonymous

    The Husseinobama admin had all the say because antiSemites NaziJewGeprgeSchwatrzSoros owns the media and Washington politicians and financial agencies of the world including the antiAmerican Islam terrorist President terrorist Bill Ayres obama’s teacher is still bombing anerica with BarackHusseinObombA!

  • Anonymous

    You should apply for a job at NASA.

  • Populist democrat

    Yes, warning Americans of an avoidable collapse of our civilization is a waste of money. What good is the moon or Mars if Cape Canaveral is under water?

  • Anonymous

    Wow, you sure read credible sources. How big was this “world” in Noah’s time that had10 billion people? Did they know about the Americas? And, did all the land on earth go under water? If so, where did all that water go?

  • Populist democrat

    Good little tool. Keep believing the ignorant claims by a corporate shill, just like the American elite want you to.

  • Anonymous

    Western Civilization may indeed end, but it will be because of birth control and liberalism.

  • Wizzardly

    Birth rates of populations of the industrialized countries are barely reaching maintenance levels. Japan, for example, is currently BELOW a birth rate needed to sustain its population. The real adverse consequence is NOT over-population sufficient to deplete resources, but AGING population where the numbers of youth will be insufficient to provide for the health and financial needs of the old.

  • Turn9

    They talk about decades of history supporting their theory – but they left capitalism and democracy out of the equation! Those 2 things have built the greatest country in history and we are seeing a muslim masquerading as a Christian doing everything he can to turn us into a 14th fiefdom. The progressives have invaded everything from the classroom to the GOP and we must elect Christian Conservatives or we really might be doomed. but for different reasons…

  • Wizzardly

    People die of hunger in Africa largely because corrupt rulers (oligarchs) enrich themselves by depriving the rest (serfs) of most of what they produce. In the US it is called taxes and it will continue to become more and more confiscatory.

  • Wizzardly

    Virtual destruction of the greatest nation in the history of the world in 5 short years – that’s efficiency!

  • Anonymous

    I am not a tool. I am not a Populist Democrat either. I did not ask for your 2 cents but you decided to give me yours. That tells me plenty about you. Now, I am through….leave me be. I am not bothering you or your comments. Have a nice day.

  • Turn9

    the left has been pushing for Zero Population Growth for the last 50 years that I know of. it probably goes further than that. The reality is the US population is very near zero growth now – it’s actually about 2.01 new people for each 2.0 here now and that includes latinos which typically have large families. but the Muslims? Now that’s a different story – in France & UK where they are increasing their population dramatically is closer to 8 for every 2.0. Once the population is large enough they can elect who ever they wish and take over a country without ever firing a shot. It’s happening as we watch “American Hero”. Where ever that are allowed to immigrate and not assimilate, this will happen.

  • Anonymous

    So, if humans, who are infiltrating and changing every available habitat on Earth, are resource-greedy and massively destructive to the environment while irrevocably altering habitats across the planet, and literally eating ourselves out of house and home (the empty oceans are a prime example of how we are decimating other species), if humans are not ‘overpopulating’ (living out of balance with the planet’s ability to support us and the other life here), then we have no right to slaughter other ‘nuisance’ species – wolves, for instance – claiming that a mere few thousand of them are an ‘overpopulation’ and need to be hunted back to the brink of extinction.

    But, you will cry, wolves are different, they are ‘dangerous’ and kill game or (occasionally) livestock?

    Hmmmm. let’s see – which species does more environmental damage and uses more non-renewable resources per individual? Which species fells millions of acres of irreplaceable old-growth forests, depletes fisheries beyond their ability to rebound, causes ‘dead-zones’ in the ocean, blows the tops of ancient mountains in the quest for more coal (more dirty energy), slaughters virtually every other species it comes across (for various reasons rarely having to do with survival), releases carcinogens and other toxins into every single ecosystem on Earth (so now even wildlife in the most remote locations gets cancers traceable to human activity), is causing the 6th major extinction crisis in the planet’s history and is a leading cause of expanding desertification, drought, erosion, soil depletion, resistant diseases, habitat destruction and fragmentation, and possibly even climate change?

    Hint: Not wolves.

    Kinda makes ya proud to be the ‘dominant’ species, doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    They create the ending of the story and then write the story to fit the ending. Must be the government.

  • Anonymous

    Just saying, it’s nothing that hasn’t been said over and over since the 1950s. Historians knew it. Artists knew it. Programmers knew it. It just seems that the Obama Administration didn’t know it.

    NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, should work on science and technology that have to do with, I dunno, Aeronautics and Space. If they develop other technologies along the way, wonderful! But their main focus shouldn’t be sociology. That’s a whole other field of science that has nothing to do with their intended mission.

    Besides, if we have a sustainable colony on mars or somewhere else when the world DOES eventually end, humanity won’t end with it.

  • marlene

    SPOT ON!

  • marlene

    and another SPOT ON!

  • marlene

    WTF? Are you kidding? There’s big gap in your knowledge, information and belief

  • marlene

    a green fanataic who loves mother earth more than G-d!

  • marlene

    this sending food around the world – what’s that? Shouldn’t we be sending seeds?

  • bumpkin

    Well! Isn’t it just ‘HANDY’ that the government(s) have found yet another way to lie to the people that put them in their positions of power! Anyone wearing the ‘oh-sign’ on their face? If you will take but a BRIEF few minutes to research, EVERY CIVILIZATION THAT HAS EVER IMPLODED was imploded because of a corrupt government! its the GOVERNMENT that will destroy its people. EVERY time. Thus, it may well be more logical to abolish government than to have one… And arm everyone and teach everyone to shoot, and the looters will eventually be taken care of (they are the same folk that belly-crawl into power in a government) I used to be VERY pro-government, and in fact, were we able to have kept a small, limited government like our founders wisely understood that we need in order to keep our civilization alive, I would STILL believe in government. However, at this point, I think the Sheriffs on down through the municipalities should hold the bulk of the power, and we only need a VERY limited delegation for international demands… and a military, overseen, but not fully controlled by, a few high generals. We do NOT need a congress that sits on their thumbs and yap, butting heads like old goats. We do not need some sleazeball that pretends he is king above all. We need a very few talking heads and an extensive voting system for nearly everything we do as a country, or do that affects much of the country. And, it should be totally outlawed that businesses can donate to political positions and politicians. No more buying favors allowed. So, let it collapse, then, when we start a new Nation, we can reset ALL the rules, and that will mean the ONLY pay a politician gets is from his DAY job. ALL political positions have to be strictly gratis- a calling, as it were, instead of a paid position. Should keep all the scum away. Volunteer positions! Like in Mitt Romney’s church! None of their church officials, so far as I am aware, get paid to do anything in the church. And that is as it should be in politics! Volunteer or get out of the way, term limits on ALL, ..ETC…

  • Leah

    Exactly! That’s what environmentalists do! They worship creation rather than the Creator!

  • Anonymous

    I went through all of the effort to join Discus just to tell you I don’t agree.

  • Clover58

    My husband and I lived and farmed in Zimbabwe Africa , once called the breadbasket of African, for 6 years. I can tell you that Zimbabwe, like other African countries, has a negative population growth. Their average life expectancy is 38 years because of AIDS … Over population is a lie! The only reason countries can’t feed themselves is because of corrupt governments (like Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe) Not a lack of resources. Now I live in California, the breadbasket of the USA and we are having a drought. So what does the government of Calif. do? Ration water to the big cities like San Jose and San Francisco so we can give our farmers water? Does it even cut back on things like carwashes in these cities? NO… they shut off the water going to the farmers. IT IS CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS!!

  • Anonymous

    The u.s. has 2.3 billion acres and a population of 350 million people. I don’t think this is a problem we have to concern ourselves with for quite awhile. Maybe in india, china or eastern europe this should be a concern. But our population is aging and decreasing along with the rest of the western world. I think we could much more wisely spend tax payer money on something other than this ridiculous NASA study.

  • Carl Showalter

    OUR GOVERNMENT IS A LAUGHING STOCK, NO WONDER PUTIN AND THE WORLD SEE US AS WEAK, OBAMA HAS TURNED NASA INTO A PROPAGANDA TOOL.

  • WeroInNM

    Geoengineering Dangers: NWO Depopulation!
    http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blogs/geoengineering-dangers-n
    “Food For Thought”
    Hello-When Are Americans Going To Wake Up-God Bless America.
    Semper Fi!
    Jake

  • Marlene Strait

    When a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT becomes reality, you wont have to worry. There will be genocide of a magnitude that is unimaginable. Mao’s 70 million will look like child’s play. Pray that this never happens.

  • Mike Nelson

    I’d agree, but every time I think of this subject I think of Sam Kinnison (“YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!!!!”) lol…

    But yeah, “teach a man to fish,” and all that Biblical ‘nonsense’.

  • Leah

    Most countries don’t allow seeds to be imported – and that stifles their food supply, obviously. Guatamala is one in point.

  • Samiam

    I’ve been hearing this crap since the 70′s…we were all told if we don’t recycle we’re gonna run out of room for our garbage …blah blah blah! If the civilized world is below the birth population and ONLY the 3rd world countries are having babies..what will we be left with? THAT scares me MORE than anything! without a country like America..where will people turn to, who’s gonna save them? On 2nd thought ..that would certainly help reduce the worlds population wouldn’t it..now I get it…it’s our fault for being too civilized …and it’s Bushs’ fault.

  • Mike Nelson

    1.) We are turning food into fuel – FACT.

    2.) I am a HUGE fan of both wolves and big cats (lions, tigers… you know, the ones that eat PEOPLE if they are not culled after developing the taste/talent for hunting us).

    3.) You assume that every other species does not change its environment to suit their needs, and this is a fallacy on the same order as the “noble savage” theory; it’s just a lie. Nearly all species’ both play with their food, and kill for sport – or other non-survival reasons – under certain circumstances.

    4.) I do not subscribe to the non-renewable resource THEORY. Trees grow. Bio-species continue to die. We don’t know what is at the bottom of most of the ocean, let alone places like the Marianas Trench. And let’s not forget that AlGore, a leading Environmentalist prop(onent/agandist) thinks that the earth is “milions of degrees” just beneath the crust.

    5.) If you think the Earth has gone through only 6 major extinctions, you should dig deeper.

    6.) When you get out of college and away from the hype, you’ll understand a LOT more about how you have been co-opted into a movement that could be better described as a bowel movement (fit only for fertilization of young minds already full of shit), rather than any form of responsible plan for action.

    7.) Do some brief research into how much “greenhouse gas” a single volcanic eruption emits into the atmosphere, and then search how many active volcanoes are emitting such gasses RIGHT NOW.

    Hint: It’s not SUVs (but it might just be Big Gay AlGore’s constantly Inconvenient Funding of projects that serve no one’s ecology but his own).

    Yes, I am proud to be a Man, and to have Domain over the beasts of the earth and the birds of the sky. One day, perhaps you will graduate to that level, as well.

  • Samiam

    I do believe you are correct. If people would look at the birth rates and what countries abort vs countries that don’t …it’s the west that’s on the downhill side of the curve.

  • Anonymous

    OH, you are so wrong, I LOVE GOD . Maybe more than you claim to. More than I love our limited human ideas and selfish goals.

    I LOVE God and the beautiful kaleidoscope of Life He created. Don’t you see what we’re doing? We are sinning. We are destroying/vandalizing, God’s Creation, and all the Creatures that God loved enough to create, place here and leave IN OUR CARE as custodians and stewards (not destroyers, not punishers, not exploiters). He ‘remembers the sparrow’, and instructs us to ‘tend the Garden’ – NOT destroy it, not develop it, not decide which parts we do or don’t care for and throw them away.

    Don’t you see? If you love and respect the Artist, you do not trash His Masterpiece (and then try to couch your actions with all sorts of ‘justifications’ that are, really and truly, just our way of trying to convince God and ourselves that we should get ‘our way’.)

    Thank you, Marlene for giving me just the right opportunity to get to the crux of things.

    ‘Dominion’, in its original translation and context, doesn’t mean ‘dominate’ or ‘control’. It means Cooperation and Respect.

    So, we’ve got some serious re-thinking to do when it comes to how we treat the planet (and creatures) He Created.

    If you love God, you care for, respect and protect His Creation, you don’t use it up, sell it to the highest bidder, annihilate it, abuse it, torture it, or smash it to rubble.

    You just don’t.

  • Mike Nelson

    I did not know this…

    I wonder: what does that say about the seed banks that have received so much attention over the last 10-20 years, and the true purpose for their formation?

    If you have any appropriate links, I would be deeply appreciative of a reliably verifiable source, since I already know finding good info on this is going to be like sifting flour through a sieve…

    Thanks for teaching me something today :)

  • Samiam

    Touché ;-)

  • Bill Wiltfong

    Some of what Glen’s talking about reminds me of the Fallout series. I bet he’d really get a kick out of the premise behind that game: http://youtu.be/nvqm_pPD-aQ

  • Vicci Thompson

    It should be made a crime to have children in places where there isn’t food and water to support them. Child abuse.

  • Anna

    And most countries don’t want our seeds cause they are all Genetically Modified.!

  • Leah

    Unfortunately, MOST countries have GMO seeds! Thanks to Monsanto, which is a multi-national company.

  • Mike Nelson

    NO.

    It should be made an example and shown as such.

  • Mike Nelson

    You need to refresh your knowledge of Matthew and the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25).

  • ccalreds

    What will be the end of civilization is America as we know it. Kerry and Obama will see to that. When we turn our backs on Israel it’s close to being the end.

  • Deckard426

    For $900 billion, NASA will give you a glob of Teflon, half a jar of Tang, and a defective o-ring. Nice con, NASA!

  • Mike Nelson

    I can’t believe you just said this…. did your account get hacked? :/

    How about we turn loose the Tesla tech and let the private sector and individuals who have unique perspectives have access to ALL of it?

  • theelviscerator

    About time NASA caught up to the Bible. The world will end. Get Ready!

  • Anonymous

    So NSA says we will be seeing the end of civilization! Well, then let’s start with everyone in the WH & Congress, next we go to all of the other Commies that are running the Country. Matter of fact lets do away with ALL Commie, Crooked Politicians nationwide The world would be better off with these low life, scum sucking weasels

  • Anonymous

    so agree, Ed. When I see the info on aquafer depletion all over the world, especially the huge ones in India and China, I know the next major world wars are going to be over water. can’t call that climate change……………….

  • Anonymous

    OK, so the world has suffered due to volcanic ash in the atmosphere which caused a cooling of the Earth, disease, the dinosaur feeding frenzy, etc, etc, etc… Wouldn’t it behoove NASA to establish bases on Mars so it’s livable? Or going to other planets in and out of our solar system. I mean that is part of what NASA is about! NASA is not about “Oh my gosh, the world is coming to an end, so let’s just roll over and die.”

    My bet is that politicians are saying “We don’t need to waste money on NASA when we can waste money on green energy projects that go belly-up in six months.”

  • Anonymous

    Hey, the lefties want to let illegals in and have free rein, not to mention all the benefits they can get. This government is more than willing to let this happen.

  • Anonymous

    There is this thing called Natural Selection which helps.

  • Anonymous

    please google everything you can on water resources and droughts worldwide. WATER IS NOT limitless. i’m just a paper pusher but i work with climate scientists and given all the hype it was a little hard not to take some interest in what they do. when you take a look at the intracacies of the global system, it is one massive moving target. these are not stupid people and i assure you they do not think for one second their science is exact. in the meantime, i still want my morning weather report and the predictions for the rest of the week.

  • Anonymous

    We are NOT running out of resources and land space.

  • Anonymous

    No. You missed the point. It’s the fault of corrupt governments that people starve. But I would also add, that it’s the result of following false religions.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. We have sown to the wind and we are reaping the whirlwind. The muslims are the ones who are increasing in numbers-not through conversion, but through the sword and having large families.

  • Anonymous

    You hit it right on the nose.

  • Anonymous

    You are correct.

  • Keith Burrow

    Thats good stuff right there…..put the entire population on the western half of north America and use the acerage in Asia, Africa, Austrailia, Europe and South America to feed and supply energy for everyone…..overpopulated my ass

  • Anonymous

    The globalists have an agenda. An evil one. They will tell you any lie and pull anything they want on the public to reach their goal-depopulation so they can control all of mankind and set up a one-world government.. You are buying into every lie they have perpetrated on the public without actually researching the truth for yourself.
    Our population is most definitely NOT mushrooming. Where there is insufficient water, there are ways that water can be hauled in and brought in, but politics many times will not allow it.
    I care about the environment and the planet. Everybody should. But I don’t worship it, I worship its Creator. If nations would stop fighting each other (they won’t), there would be resources, money, and time to take better care of the environment. But evil will be with us until Jesus returns (and He IS returning).
    In the meantime, we should be good stewards of the earth, but radical environmentalists have done so much damage in the zest for control and their-hugging religion. Please don’t fall for their lies. Find out the whole truth for yourself. You have to read materials from many sources. And you need to get to know the Lord.

  • Anonymous

    The Bible prophesied that the desert would bloom like a rose, and it s.

  • Anonymous

    Not worship creation- RESPECT it. If you respect and love the Creator then you need to RESPECT the things created, not treat them as so much trash, to be crumpled or torn apart, used or destroyed, as we are doing with the planet and other living creatures.Humans are faddish – God’s Creation is not. My Gosh, blowing the tops off mountains? Sweeping the oceans clean of life with giant trawlers? Sawing the horns of live Rhinos and leaving them to die in agony, while the species is driven to extinction by greedy, criminal humans who want phony sex potions? Is all this how you show your love of the Creator?

  • Mike Nelson

    As far back as ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt (circa BC 3000-2500, approximately) there exists a body of evidence that has been documented as collection of taxes. Here is the first/only link I hit to discover this information:

    http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v48/n28/AncientTaxes.html

    However, why stop there? When was the first bribe offered and accepted? A dinosaur that ran away from a bigger dinosaur without shitting on the food in contest, simply in order that they leave a worthy diversion to guarantee survival?

    How long have bribes existed? Because that is what taxes are… nothing more, just renamed so there is a wider area of effect of the money extorted for purposes under the control of people who will never answer for the corruption that ensues.

  • Watch it

    Sorry, Glenn, population, climate, water, agriculture, and energy are legitimate risk factors. You won’t see the effects of it in your life time, but it will be a problem to future generations if immigration to the US is not reduced and reproduction rates of some cultural groups does not decline.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ

  • Watch it

    Not in YOUR lifetime.

  • Watch it

    We have a good balance of agriculture to existing population. When the population doubles, the demand for food doubles, as does water. There are areas now where the aquifers are getting depleted. We also then double our demand for energy – but we won’t have the Keystone pipeline or any other new ones, or new drilling, fracking, etc. because of the ecology extremists. I don’t think many people really look into the future far enough to see what we could be headed for if the population keeps booming and we keep wasting resources or using them lavishly.

    BTW, if we filled up all our land with people, where would we grow our food?

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  • Watch it

    If we continue to allow increases in immigration, we will not depopulate. Those immigrating have high reproduction rates.

  • menu

    Glenn is stupid and narrow minded. NASA does not say we need a centralized economy, juste theway we live will lead to chaos. Is it so hard to understand?

  • menu

    No you are lying, Zimbabwe has an annual growth of 1%, therefore its population is growing.

  • Watch it

    That would be a good project for NASA and the Muslims that Obama wants to credit with great contributions to the building of this country, and to whom he wants NASA to be attentive: Colonize Mars with them!

  • Jenn

    this sounds like NASA is involved with Planned Parenthood…

  • http://truthbeagle.blogspot.com/2014/02/tvnewser-emergency-meeting-location.html TruthBeagle

    I just now saw my email referencing this article. I didn’t have a chance to listen to Glenn today, but I posted about this on another site at about 7:00 a.m.

    No time listen right now, but did Glenn check the validity of the article by the U.K. loon?

    Here is my post on another site from this morning. I posted it after I received an email indicating it as a probable progressive spamming campaign:

    Here’s a new one for you before our resident loon Joel continues the ‘net spamming’ with it. It’s the latest article of propaganda that progressives have been directed to spam:

    NASA: Civilization headed for collapse

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/16/1285204/-NASA-Civilization-headed-for-collapse#

    It comes from this article:

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists

    I would like to see what Delingpole thinks about this Nafeez radical. What an ignoramus.

    They like to throw a bunch of things out that are difficult to trace. I like it when he says “…led by applied mathematician Safa Motesharrei Safa Motesharrei…”. Stressing that point alone like Safa is some ‘whiz’ everyone should be in awe over is enough to plunge the credibility of the article. Tracking him, he seems to be just a grad student trying to get approved for a PHD program. A person who is a minor participant in the study. Far from ‘led by’.

    http://www.nimbios.org/workinggroups/WG_risk

    Then throwing out ‘…A new study sponsored by Nasa’s Goddard Space Flight Center…’ to try to sound like it was some huge endeavor with the conclusion being endorsed by Goddard. Goddard throws out tons of grants for all kinds of projects. They might not have even known the real intention of the grant money, if they even did give it some funding. You won’t find anything about it on Goddards site. My guess is the people in charge at Goddard are waking up, seeing this crap, and shouting WTF!!!

    It’s laughable how quickly it’s spreading. To find out anything about these people you have to date-limit any searches to a few weeks ago, otherwise their ‘net-bombing’ of the article will make the truth difficult to dig for.

    It’s that kind of crap that makes them push baby-killing and destroying America so much. To see the real progressive agenda? This is an excellent example.

    Background. On the site I usually post, ‘Joel’ is a troll from the Daily Kos. Delingpole is an EXCELLENT person to read regarding the climate change scam. He had written articles for the Daily Mail for many years, but recently left for Breitbart.

    I then posted a follow up about 12 hours later:

    LOL!!! This morning, after receiving a progressive email that was basically a ‘spam the net guys’ email about an article from the guardian, I posted here that the net would be deluged with the article. Search for one phrase from it:

    “industrial civilisation headed for ‘irreversible collapse”

    Make sure you have the quotes, and the same misspelling (U.K. way to spell it maybe). 8 pages of google hits on it now. LOL!!!

    When I did the search this morning there were just a few hits.

    And I have delved into a few points and show that they are phony.

    I posted a question to someone who I follow who really gets into the global warming and such scams. He’s from the U.K., where the article originated. I asked him if he or Delingpole had heard of the author. His response:

    hi Beagle, I had seen it, but thank’s for reminding me. It’s another Malthusian article in support of ‘renewable’ energy (no mention of
    fusion technology etc.) and extreme political solutions not relying on individuals freedoms.
    one to bookmark.Nafeez has certainly commented on James Delingpole, calling him ‘intellectually-challenged’.

    I looked up Malthusian. I had never heard of it. A fascinating person. He puts the blame for societies overuse of resources and excessive population growth on the ‘irresponsibility and laziness’ of the lower class. LOL!!!

    When the libs pick an article to spam, check all of the info in it closely. Most of the points exaggerated in the article from the Guardian seem to be BS from the start. They are SO predictable.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget the Departments of Energy and the Environmental Protection agency. These have sensible names but have been perverted in function whose purpose must be realigned. God bless America. Lets hope it is not too far gone to fix by 2017.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    enter hollywood and the noah pop control movie. more to come.

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  • Scott Helton

    Sound familiar to anyone? Agenda 21?

  • JimF

    Listen, if NASA is not doing space exploration then it should be closed. Not cheapen itself by becoming another liberal mouthpiece.

  • Populist democrat

    Who benefits from people joining Glenn Beck and denying the facts of science? Not people. Not our descendants. Not nations. Not the world.

    Corporations and their drive for profits benefit from Beck’s anti-science campaign in support of blind faith, ignorance and false claims about progressives.

    FACT: We’re seriously screwed if we don’t change our greedy manner. Faith in god will not help you or anyone if civilization collapses. Most of us will be dead while the wealthy few like Beck will be laughing in their survival bunkers…until they run out of food.

  • Bill Wiebold

    glenn, please answer my call. my son and his family are moving to texas and i’m scared chitless about it…. my ph is 540 9584

  • Spartacus76

    “these are not stupid people and i assure you they do not think for one second their science is exact”
    That statement alone, indicts your position. If their “science” is not “exact”, it is not science; it barely rises to the level of being a hypothesis.

  • Anonymous

    absolutely does not weaken my position. physicists, computer scientists, mathematicians all do what is termed “basic research”. ditto for the medical fields. all starts on a hunch, or to use your term a hypothesis. does that mean you think all non-applied science should stop? if scientists and universities took that posture, we wouldn’t be communicating on a blog. industries (i.e.,IBM) do do research but rely heavily on basic research to advance it to a point where they produce something you can hold in your hand. they aren’t much interested on investing in the initial stages (furthering an initial scientific concept, if you will) because they don’t make money on that. don’t know if you’re old enough to remember the difference, but the ability to provide a weather forecast a week out is much improved. if they can up their game to climate I say it would be important in a world with a dwindling water supply and a global (not US) population explosion to be able to know what to plant, where to plant it, and when.

  • PrometheusISgodoftheblog

    man caused climate change is junk science used to steal money from working people and give to lazy leftists that don’t wanna work for it so they’ll just vote the same moronic left wing shills in over and over.. thats the intellectual basis of leftism. nothing grand about it, and for the record humanity will destroy itself LONG before it can destroy the earth. there are alternative energy options out there and its on the way. overpopulation has nothing to do with ecological problems, deforestation is done for grazing land, so maybe people should cut back on the Mcdonalds. facts refute the leftist position on every point.

  • vanco

    There are way too many people on the planet. The USA also has this problem. Obama pretty much invited every mexican to come live here now we can’t even feed the ones that are already here. Oh yea let’s give them also free healthcsre and cell phones. Muslims have 10kids per family while a average Christian family barely has 2. This doesn’t help out humanity in any way. We need smart people in order to advance and mass extinction. Instead of being allies with russia we rather help muslims.

  • Nic Gibson

    As a history person, I think there is a good bit of truth to the instabilities of history related to population, resource access, climate, and many other things. For example, one of the things that made the crusades possible was a massive population increase in Europe. Later the development of the horse harness and plow made food more abundant and made the thinking class of Europe possible- which created the Renaissance, Reformation and age of science. Ancient empires were imperialistic partly for reasons of resource acquisition. Assyria developed the most brutal war strategies partly from having a low population being from a non-plains region that had agricultural limitation.

    The question is, what do you plan to do about it? Central planning? And then we have to look at the many time this was tried and caused the same or greater problems in world history- in ancient and modern china, The Roman Empire before Diocletian, in communism (or numerous 20th century examples). These events tend to be more catastrophic and people are much more helpless to help themselves. Yet the more capitalistic empires that fell into debt based finance were also enormous moral and social tragedies- like medieval Spain and Portugal (which I know Glenn is not in favor of emulating either).

    If we damn this kind of study, I think we have to ask, “What kind of study sort of like it that looks at macro-dynamics WOULD we want done?” Do we want ANYONE looking at the big picture? I think we should want someone doing that, but I think they should be people with no governmental power- only the power to persuade, and I might be persuaded that it shouldn’t be with public funds.

    One sort of example is DNR departments looking at wildlife populations. Elk and Deer populations almost disappeared in america, and management has done some good things. DNR’s have also done really bone headed things, or things that the public would not have favored- like Wolf reintroduction. Macro policy is always really hard, but we do need some of them. How do freedom loving people create macro policy?

  • Anonymous

    the government can lie all it wants – doesn’t stop me from infoming myself from non-governmental sources. maybe the earth won’t “die”, but just maybe it will be uninhabitable by humans eventually. if mass extinction can happen once, it can happen again. we ain’t that damn advanced to deal with that.

  • Leah

    I don’t trash the environment. Take your “respect” elsewhere. You sound like an enviro-nazi.

  • Leah

    No, and not in the lifetime of this planet! God is in control.

  • Leah

    Never heard of desalinazation, huh? *eye roll*

  • Anonymous

    But why would NASA concern itself with it? The problems begin when it becomes top heavy meaning more older, sicker living longer and less young. White population is declining everywhere because they are concerned about agriculture and their climate. The rest of the world is growing exponentially.

  • Anonymous

    eye roll them right out of their sockets babe. certainly have – whacha gonna do? use the oceans to water all the people and crops all over the world? how long you think that will be viable? have you done any looking into the state of our oceans? oh, that’s right, you’re blind from your eye rolling. really tire of the instant gratification mentality.

  • Anonymous

    Then why are we running out of fish in the sea? Honestly. Look – (and please don’t discard the evidence due to the source – It was just the first one I was able to access) http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/17/1285265/-We-are-close-to-eating-bait-and-jelly-fish-as-big-fish-numbers-plummet#

    Look at the photos of the sport catches of yesteryear compared to today. We have killed off all the big, valuable breeder fish and have nothing now but babies, and they are dwindling too. Fish don’t just support humans, they support everything else in the ocean and other animals – and this is just ONE resource disappearing.

    This isn’t serious in your view?

  • Dealer

    Well get the hell out of our way and let us be happy and implode the damn thing …that should do away with a lot of libs

  • Leah

    There is PLENTY of water in all the oceans, BABE. God is in control. As long as there is a planet, there will always be enough water. 2/3 of the planet is water!!!!

  • Anonymous

    The concept of overpopulation seems as predictable and logical as just
    multiply 2x2x2 as many times as you care to do it. It arrives at astronomical
    numbers and hence the end of our way of life on Earth. What is left out
    is, like More’s Law man’s ingenuity and economic progress has kept well
    ahead of these numbers. Still there is a problem and it does involve
    numbers, but it is exactly the opposite of what they are writing about.
    If you ever get the chance read “America Alone” by Marc Stein, he points
    out that the industrial countries are facing ruin by population implosion,
    What China is doing in the face of their burdensome population is the
    certain death of their state, and in a very short time at that. They are soon
    to experience a population of old men and women being supported by a
    younger class that is halving itself every generation. In the free world we
    are doing much the same at a slightly slower rate with a fertility rate that
    is far below that needed to keep the demographics on pace for a normal
    future. In countries like Greece the fertility rate is near 1 that puts them
    in the same boat as China. The rest of Europe is facing the same problem
    all be it to a lesser extent. The alarming prognosis from the book is that
    the Muslim world is not facing this problem, and they do not need to invade
    us to defeat us, they just need to wait, we are doing it all by ourselves. At
    the writing of the book America’s fertility rate was amount 2.1 about what is
    needed to keep the population stable. Hence, America Alone. Since then
    there has been a drop off in our rate as we join Europe and it’s death
    spiral.

  • Populist democrat

    No, it’s not. You’re nothing more than a science denier and corporate tool. No one is stealing money from anyone, and taxation is never “stealing money” unless it always is which means you fundamentally hate all forms of government, a typical bit of teabag nuttery.

    Little you write has any connection with reality. Overpopulation is destroying the Earth, along with climate change and resource exploitation, all in the name of corporate profits.

    You and Beck make great tools for America’s plutocrats, the 0.05% paying for campaigns now.

    People should cut back completely on McDonalds. It’s junk food, just like Fox and BlazeTV is junk food for thought.

  • Populist democrat

    If you’re so “brilliant” at detecting BS, why do you listen to Glenn Beck at all? No one is a bigger BS artist than Glenn Beck. No one!

  • Leah

    Oh? I guess you didn’t realize that he talked about all that is happening NOW about 5 years ago! He saw it coming and warned those of us who were paying attention. Guess you aren’t capable of that …

  • Leah

    You’re nothing more than another Obamabot … ugh … no wonder the U.S. is in such a mess…

  • Wise words …

    Wealth cannot be redistributed, it can only be destroyed.

  • Anonymous

    The wealthier society gets, the fewer children they have. The wealthiest countries are not even having enough children to replace themselves. Look at Japan, Sweden, Western Europe, etc. Even the birthrate in South America is dropping. Only very poor countries still have a high birthrate. So the answer is more wealth, not less. Restricting the use of resources will make everyone poor and make the problem worse. Besides, whatever government entity is tasked with redistributing the wealth will skim off wealth for themselves. As they destroy the wealth of producers, they will become the new wealthy elites of the world while producing nothing of value. This always happens in communist countries. Such actions will only hasten our demise.

  • Anonymous

    Such a thoughtful non-answer. Sure. People have been making seawater drinkable at least as far back as the ancient Greeks. Done big time in the middle east now and on a smaller scale here because of cost – supplying all domestic water by sea water desalination would increase US domestic energy consumption by around by around 10%. Sounds like a great plan into perpetuity since we have so much expendable energy too. Can no one think past their own immediate freaking nose? I simply cannot fathom how short-sighted some people are. Got fish? I asked you if you knew about the health of our oceans not how big they are – this isn’t second grade. You go ahead and trust in your god to take care of everything for you. If you say something intelligent I may favor you with a reply. Getting on your nerve, babe?

  • Anonymous

    “Safa has developed a minimal dynamical model of Human and Nature…”

    After failing to model climate, these people want us to believe that they can model human society and its relationship with nature. All they do is program their preconceived ideas into a computer and call it a model. Then they point to the model and say, “see, it confirms everything we have been saying.” Sorry, but that’s circular reasoning and I’m not buying it.

  • Anonymous

    Since Obama’s numbers tanked he’s been itching for a nation-wide calamity. I’m sure this report is welcome news at the White House!

  • Anonymous

    this is they end of AMERICA ,WE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SEND HELP TO ANY NATION TO DEFEND THERE COUNTRY AGAINST RUSSIA AS THEY INVADE EUROPE ,THIS HAS ALL READY BEGUN .CHINA WILL HAVE TO TURN ON RUSSIA OUT OF FEAR ,AS RUSSIA ATTACK’S THE JEWS .

  • http://truthbeagle.blogspot.com/2014/02/tvnewser-emergency-meeting-location.html TruthBeagle

    Nothing on the fact that I showed a lunatic radical environmentalist article that is being spammed across the internet by progressives as ‘brilliant proof that destroying America would be great for the world’ as being full of BS lies? Typical.

    Continue reading the propaganda and paying no attention when it is dis-proven.

  • Leah

    No sweetheart, you’re just showing your lack of knowledge of God. I’ll pray for you.

  • Anonymous

    F. A. Hayek stated this very succinctly in his Nobel Prize
    lecture from 1974, “The Pretense of Knowledge.”

    “To
    act on the belief that we possess the knowledge and the power which enable us
    to shape the processes of society entirely to our liking, knowledge which in
    fact we do not possess, is likely to make us do much harm. . . The recognition of the insuperable limits to his knowledge ought indeed to teach the student of society a lesson in humility, which should guard him against becoming an accomplice in men’s fatal striving to control society—a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over
    his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization which
    no brain has designed but which has grown from the free efforts of millions of individuals.”

  • Watch it

    Was God in control when millions of Jews were killed by Nazis? Or when hijacked planes crashed into the twin towers on 9/11? Or when the US dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Or when we had people killed in Benghazi? What about the last ice age? Can you see where this is going? If you think God is in control, maybe he is going to let us kill ourselves off to start over again because we were so unthinking and greedy. After all, didn’t he give us the marvelous brain we have so we could use it to prevent bad things from happening? My intent is not to have a conversation about whether God exists or not, and I will not do that, but you need to wake up and be part of reality.

  • Fat Lip

    This is the end my final friend thee end !
    Read your Bible go to the very, very, end of Revelations .
    God wins !! never put trust in mankind they always screw things up even when they predict stupid stories.

  • Leah

    God has ALWAYS been in control. It is YOU, dear one, who needs to wake up. Time is growing short and if you aren’t ready, you won’t like where you spend eternity…

  • Watch it

    Why is NASA concerning itself with it? You would have to ask them. I can only offer conjecture. Maybe they are afraid they will be out of jobs because Obama will end NASA, and he threw them a bone to keep them going – the bone being come up with the conclusion I want so I can grow government to institute more control on the people (the global warming thing had already been done). Maybe they did it in a desperate attempt to justify their existence. They have to dance to Obama’s tune now if they want to keep their jobs.

    Yes, the white population in the US is declining due to reduced reproduction rates, while the others are rising, especially within the immigrant and Muslim population. While an increasing older sicker population and a decreasing healthier younger population is a problem socially and economically, it is not a net growth in population, which is what directly impacts climate, water, agriculture, and energy.

    The US should be decreasing the number of immigrants into this country, but instead, the government wants to increase the number. It is all about politics for them, they aren’t concerned about a future where they will no longer exist. Money and power.

  • Anonymous

    If Clover 58 was there in 2006, population growth was a mere 0.1%, however it has climbed since then to 2.7% by 2012. Much of this increase, however, is due to the many agencies there combating AIDS. Life expectancy is a little over 51 yrs. (again due to the efforts of combating AIDS and the efforts at water purification brought in by humanitarian workers. The fertility rate in 2011 was 3.2 births per woman–by no means, unreasonable.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Population+growth+of+Zimbabwe&oq=Population+growth+of+Zimbabwe&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.11126j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

  • Anonymous
  • Watch it

    I told you I will not have a debate about the existence of God, but if you think he was in control over all those things I mentioned, and that mankind had nothing to do with it, then you have to believe he will be in control when the human race kills itself off too – or do you create/select which things you think God is in control of and what he will or will not do – kind of like playing God?

    You, dear Leah, need a reality check, because the bank of common sense and logic won’t cash what you have.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    The population is growing to 8,000,000,000 and our resources are limited. How is he so stupid and still breathing? His brain pressure is leaking out his ass. Talk about a blind lemming taunting all the others to jump from their spaceship. Nuclear waste with limiting factor of his diatribe. His ignorance is blinding..

  • Anonymous

    So you believe that a poisonous environment is a good thing. Corporations that have no oversight and pollute undetured is the thing to do. Eat their fracking fluid and die or question their greedy motives.

  • Leah

    So you’re not only closed minded, you’re ignorant and want to stay that way. I understand. I’ll pray for you.

  • Watch it

    Me closed minded and ignorant? ROTFLMAO! You have been demonstrating that is exactly what you are! You can’t even logically answer any of my questions. You lack the level of thinking ability or open mindedness necessary to do so.

  • The truth about spammers

    This is a liberals dream. Abortions all around and concentrate on minorities and Asians.

    Save the planet, sterilize liberals.

  • The truth about spammers

    You mean anti-humanity nutbag liberals.

  • marlene

    first you whine “I will not have a debate about the existence of G-d” then you hypocritically engage in debate. i’m sorry you believe that the human race will kill itself off. What a horrible lack of hope, redemption and salvation you live with. My hope lies in the prophetic relevations of the bible – which is G-d’s Word and He never goes back on His Word. I trust you rely on your “bank” and “cash”. Too bad. When they’re both long gone, G-d will still be with us. There’s nothing “common” about “sense” – if there were, you’d be on our side. Take a leap of faith, dear one – what have you got to lose? As soon as I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior, He made His presence known – literally. So try it before you knock it. I’m at peace with hope for eternity. You could cast your problems on Him and have the same gift. with blessings and peace…

  • marlene

    G-d leaves us to our own reprobate actions. Like He did to Pharoah. It’s difficult answering your questions when you have no bibllical knowledge to debate. Your questions are based on a novel you haven’t read.

  • marlene

    i didn’t know this and was thinking mostly about africa. thanks for the infomation. this has been a thorn in my side for a very long time.

  • marlene

    haha – guess that’s true now

  • Leah

    uh YUP! You’ve already shown that quite clearly. And again, I will pray for you. You can go now :-)

  • Leah

    His spirit belongs to HaSatan, Marlene. He doesn’t know God and is nothing more than a tool.

  • Leah

    AMEN!

  • Anonymous

    HERE IS A SONG TO EMPHASIZE YOUR POINT

    https://soundcloud.com/user262008952/lifes-been-good-to-me-so-far_3
    NICK NAME ” I WORK FOR THE FEDERAL MOB”

  • Watch it

    marlene, FYI I didn’t whine, I stated something matter of factly, so that is your misinterpretaion…. or you are just trying to be snarky. Reread for comprehension – I didn’t engage in debate about the existence of God, I tried to get Leah to use reason concerning the things that are at risk from over population by appealing to what I had hoped would be her sense of reason and logic. She chose to make it an issue about God, not I.

    “I trust you rely on your “bank” and “cash”” … You have no idea what I rely on, and quite frankly I couldn’t care less about what you rely on, or your religious views. As I said, I will not discuss the existence of God.

  • Watch it

    Take your preaching elsewhere, marlene. You can’t answer my questions because all you know about is the Bible and you obviously have no logic or common sense either.

  • Watch it

    Actually, Leah, I haven’t but you have. You seem to be unable to comprehend matters on a higher level. Pray if you like, dance if you like, sing if you like. It is a freedom you can still enjoy. Have a nice evening….. no need to reply.

  • Jesus

    That would fix the overpopulation problem sited in the study.

  • Anonymous

    wow. i think i love you for this.

  • Anonymous

    I reject your crutch.

  • Populist democrat

    Save the planet for what? Corporate heaven?

    This isn’t left-right issue. This is science vs. ignorance (Beck’s forte).

  • Populist democrat

    College drop-out, Glenn Beck, is railing against science (again), and other science denialists jump on board like so many lemmings.

    What if Beck is wrong (again), and we do nothing to prevent civilization’s collapse? It will be too late to point fingers; we’ll all be dead.

    If Beck is right and NSAA is wrong, then we’ll waste tax money and have more economic justice; we’ll all be alive and over-taxed.

    Think about it.

  • Watch it

    Also try Vermont Bean & Seed Co. – I have done business with them in the past and was pleased with their seeds. I just checked with them for this Spring, and they have verified that they don’t/won’t offer GMOs. Google them, get their address and read about them.

  • The Roadster

    Our trust in liberty rests on the understanding that it will, in the long run, unleash much more potential for good than for evil.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn is, as usual, just being Glenn without looking into the matter. From what I read NASA Goddard funded a part of the development of the model but did not fund this work directly and does not endorse the results.
    Using ONE PAPER that NASA indirectly put some background money into in 2010 to argue for defunding the entire agency ignores all of the other work that the agency does supporting aeronautics and space exploration and doesn’t make any sense at all. But then, Glenn Beck has never been the place to go for accurate science news.

  • Populist democrat

    …or any news at all. Beck is a reactionary, anti-progressive corporate shill. Nothing more. When it comes to sustainable technologies and human survival, Glenn Beck is part of the problem.

  • Populist democrat

    That’s misplaced trust. Corporations were never intended to be “free.” People? Yes, but not corporations. Large and growing corporations were understood by James Madison as “an evil,” and they are, especially the finance corporations based on Wall St.

    “But besides the danger of a direct mixture of Religion & civil Government, there is an evil which ought to be guarded agst in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by ecclesiastical corporations. The power of all corporations, ought to be limited in this respect.”

    Glenn Beck will never mention that quote; I just did. Large corporations are the primary reasons we have environmental destruction AND excessive inequality. Their “liberty” was never intended by the Founders or the Framers.

  • Anonymous

    To very loosely paraphrase “Dr. Strangelove”, better a reactionary anti-progressive corporate shill than a revolutionary progressive commie shill.

  • Populist democrat

    I see you buy into Beck’s deceitful propaganda. That’s what reactionaries get from Glenn Beck: reactionary, fear-mongering propaganda aimed to distort and LIE about progressives (Newsflash: Teddy Roosevelt was NOT a “commie shill.”) in order to build support for the corporate state and plutocracy.

    If you think President Roosevelt and FDR were “commie shills,” you are more gullible than you seem.

  • Anonymous

    No, Teddy Roosevelt wasn’t a commie shill – he was a little too early for that. I don’t think that FDR was a commie, either – it is just that both communists and progressives share a lot of the same intellectual DNA. In both cases it is all about the state being in control of the people. In both cases you have a ruling elite that gets to tell everybody else how to live. Communists directly at gunpoint. Progressives believe that the “smart people” running the state know better than everybody else so they should naturally control the masses. Their enforcement is still done at gunpoint, but progressives work a lot harder to conceal that fact.

  • Watch it

    Not in YOUR lifetime.

  • Watch it

    Wow, Glenn – it is really pretty intolerant when you delete my comments because some other posters disagreed with them and flagged them. They didn’t contain profanity, vulgarity or personal attacks. Yet when there have been really disgusting nasty attacks posted, it took an uprising to get you to do anything about it.

  • Guardian

    OK Vicky – stop spamming your Anti Corporation propaganda.

  • Guardian

    Come on Vicky, stop the anti-business fear mongering

  • Guardian

    More moronisms

  • Guardian

    Get back on your meds, Victor. Beck isn’t the problem. Corporations aren’t the problem. He|| they aren’t even the subject here.

  • Guardian

    Fear monger Vicky, Fear monger Vicky, Fear monger Vicky

  • Guardian

    Vicky, this isn’t your forum to preach your anti-corporation crap.
    Go back to your bugsite to do it …. Oh ….. I forgot – nobody goes there to see your crap.

  • Guardian

    Doomsday! Doomsday!

  • Guardian

    Vicky aka Gadamer Too aka Victor Tiffany aka Ithaca’s town idiot, “you’re nothing more than” a liberal progressive leftist tool who used to claim to be a Lincolnian Republican. Now you are a populist dumocrat.

    “Little you write has any connection with reality.”

    You and Ed Schultz make great tools for America’s Socialists, Marxists and Communists in Democrat clothing. You want to whine about campaign financing? the Democrats took in twice what the Republicans did from big money donors.

    Vicky, you should cut back completely on McDonalds. It’s junk food, just like MSNBC, CNN, The Glenn Beck Review, Media Matters, Common Dreams, Mother Jones, Salon ….. especially the Glenn Beck Review, home of that smearing propagandist, fear mongering, Victor Tiffany.

  • Guardian

    How lucky for you that Victor is tagging on you with his “Populist democrat” sock. I wonder what happened to being a Lincolnian Republican. HAHAHAHAAA

  • Guardian

    Wellll Ha! You, Vicky aren’t the place to go for any news, info, facts, or anything for that matter.

    You don’t know the first thing about human survival. You need the state to take care of you.

  • Guardian

    No LIE about progressives, just realism. The fear-mongering propaganda comes from you and your Marxist cronies on the left. FDR was a Socialist.

  • Guardian

    Vicky, you are getting to be a PITA with this anti-corporation campaign. It has become a very unhealthy obsession with you. No one here wants to hear your obsessive preaching. Go find a forum about corporations, where your commie friends are.

  • Guardian

    Elitist Victor Tiffany is railing against corporations (again), and NOBODY is jumping on board his crazy train.

    Vicky, take your elitist better than thou attitude, your obsessions about corporations and stick them up your booty next to your head.

    It is so funny that you try to put Beck down with your “College drop-out, Glenn Beck” routine – it is so old and lame. You feel superior to him because you graduated college with a degree that is meaningless because you are ignorant – what is known as “book learned stupid”. You think that if you denigrate Beck to others that it will somehow draw them to accept your opinions. ROTFLMAO!

    Yuppp, book learned stupid.

  • Guardian

    Actually, Victor, you are a bigger BS artist than Beck, as are your commie cronies..

    You are going to be in sad shape when the fit hits the shan.

  • Watch it

    Me closed minded and ignorant? ROTFLMAO! You have been demonstrating
    that is exactly what you are! You can’t even logically answer any of my
    questions. You lack the level of thinking ability or open mindedness
    necessary to do so.

  • Watch it

    I told you I will not have a debate about the existence of God, but if
    you think he was in control over all those things I mentioned, and that
    mankind had nothing to do with it, then you have to believe he will be
    in control when the human race kills itself off too – or do you
    create/select which things you think God is in control of and what he
    will or will not do – kind of like playing God?

    You, dear Leah, need a reality check, because the bank of common sense and logic won’t cash what you have.

  • Watch it

    Was God in control when millions of Jews were killed by Nazis? Or when
    hijacked planes crashed into the twin towers on 9/11? Or when the US
    dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Or when we had people killed in
    Benghazi? What about the last ice age? Can you see where this is going?
    If you think God is in control, maybe he is going to let us kill
    ourselves off to start over again because we were so unthinking and
    greedy. After all, didn’t he give us the marvelous brain we have so we
    could use it to prevent bad things from happening? My intent is not to
    have a conversation about whether God exists or not, and I will not do
    that, but you need to wake up and be part of reality.

  • Watch it

    Not in YOUR lifetime.

  • Martin Chacon

    Touche! Besides all the people on earth could fit into the city of Jacksonville Fla.

  • Tandoori

    This is all a hoax. The study wasn’t funded or performed by NASA, it was performed by an independent group that used NASA’s software. But why let a silly thing like facts get in the way of a good scare/outrage piece?

  • Tandoori
  • http://www.mysurvivalgarden.com/ Mark Halpern

    Be careful when buying Seed Banks! All of them offer non-GMO seeds so you’re safe as far that is concerned, but some of them inflate their seed count by adding thousands of almost worthless seeds, like lettuce and radish. You can check out the reviews of most seed banks here: http://survivalseedbank.vegetable-gardening-guide.info

  • Watch it

    I have never experienced intentional inflation of seed count (purchase by wright) as you talk about here. Some seeds like carrot are so tiny that it is nearly impossible to determine if there are nonviable seeds getting into the mix with good ones. Much the same for radish and lettuce. My carrot planting this year was terrible – I believe due to my soil & methods, and rain wash. Replanted – see what happens.