Watch what happened when Cass Sunstein was asked if a fetus should have the same rights as a horse

President Obama’s former ‘regulatory czar’ and progressive icon Cass Sunstein has a new book out entitled Conspiracy Theories and Other Dangerous Ideas in which he ponders why topics like “perfectly rational people sometimes believe crazy conspiracy theories,” climate change, same-sex marriage, animal rights, and more. During a recent forum about the book at the National Constitution Center, an audience member posed a very strange question to Sunstein: “Should a fetus have the same rights as a horse?” His answer was even more bizarre.

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“Cass Sunstein is really an amazing dude. I’m sure he appreciates that. He’s a guy who wept, according to his wife, when he was offed the regulatory czar job… When you have a President that’s like Woodrow Wilson, that’s a dream come true, because you can change people – what they eat, what they watch, how they drive, how they vote, all through regulation… That was his job,” Glenn explained on radio this morning. “Now, he’s a pretty spooky dude when you really know his real opinion… Listen to him try to answer a pretty serious question about the rights of a child. Does the fetus have the same right as a horse?”

Applicable video begins around the 1 hour 5 minute mark:

As Pat explained, Sunstein easily could have laughed off the ridiculousness of this question, but instead he stumbles through an awkward answer. Glenn, however, believes Sunstein didn’t ignore the question because he actually has an opinion on the subject matter – one that he may not have been fully upfront about in his response.

Glenn pointed to an eerie comment former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano made earlier this year in regards to her evolving opinion on gay marriage as evidence. Napolitano essentially admitted she did not publically support gay marriage because it was not popular opinion at the time she was trying to win her gubernatorial races in Arizona. But now that the “arc of history” has evolved, she is much more willing to have the opinion that is now more politically expedient.

“So [she] can’t tell you what [she] really believe because you are not prepared to hear it,” Glenn explained. “It comes from the progressives: I’m smarter than you are. And I can’t tell you [the truth now] because you will reject me, so I will just work behind the scenes to manipulate through regulation, through information until you get to the point to where you’re ready to hear what I’m really saying to you.”

With that in mind, when it comes to Sunstein’s response to the horse and fetus question, his answer may not have actually been what it seemed.

“Cass Sunstein, if I’m not mistaken, has written about litigation for animals. And we already have monkeys on trial. We have monkeys taking people to court! So look at the arc of history,” Glenn explained. “You are not ready to say monkeys and dogs are people too. You are not ready to say babies and horses are the same, so what does he say… He’s a long-robed professor who’s making his way around and gaining accolades in the marketplace. Beware… He’s waiting for the arc of history to catch up, so he can tell you what’s really on his mind.”

  • Deckard426

    Sunstein and his books should be burned in the same fire.

    • Anonymous

      Sunstein is a radical no doubt, but seriously Deckard, do you advocate burning everyone whos ideas you dont agree with? Keep the book, you should be thrown on the same fire.
      The founders risked everything so we would have the freedom to disagree and write about it.

      • Mike Nelson

        Printed materials must be preserved and learned from.

        Fahrenheit 451.

        • johnpe78

          yes, Mike, we need the dark to ably appreciate light!!!

          • Anonymous

            By that, I’m assuming you don’t mean you need the dark material as fuel to create and appreciate the light of fire?

          • Anonymous

            But Jesus said “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!

        • Al Scarbrough

          So we are supposed to learn from books that describe how to rape, murder, and dismember a woman and then dispose of her body? This has been proposed and it lost because its intrinsic value was nonexistent. A line has to be drawn somewhere and when the writing is detrimental to society and deadly to certain segments of humanity then it is not something to be read and learned from. Keeping books and reading them just for the sake of keeping them and wanting to learn from them is purely ludicrous. There are exceptions to every rule. Dissension is also a virtue and to dissent against the preservation of fascist and Marxist ideals is a trump card against most anything, including keeping books just for the sake of keeping them. Leave poison lying around and it will soon poison someone and spread.

          • Anonymous

            Good point, but you miss the main point, FREEDOM. Vile material such as his has no place in a moral society and by such would be readily dismissed to die on it’s own lack of value. Censorship is a slippery slope that first stepped upon can ultimately have disasterous consequences. Once it starts, where does it end? Who then becomes the censor? Who determines what material should be burned? Who determines what propaganda survives? Who becomes the arbitrar of what is acceptable or not? Who??? Again, only an engaged moral society has the power to dismiss that which is has no worth. Once freedom is lost, it can be very difficult to recapture. Filthy writing exists only when there is an audience/consumer for it. Good and noble writing can and will overpower the bad!

  • Anonymous

    Sunstein & his ideas suck.

  • Anonymous

    Cass Sunstein, Obama’s Regulatory Czar, is the guy who thinks
    animals should have lawyers. He also is not fond of the First Amendment. He is
    quoted as saying.

    “In light of astonishing economic and
    technological changes, we must doubt whether, as interpreted, the
    constitutional guarantee of free speech is adequately serving democratic

    If one is completely honest Mr. Sunstein is correct if by
    “democratic goals” he really means the goals of the Democrat Party.

    Another of his quotes seems to make the point that individual
    choice in picking what you read, watch or listen to, is not desirable.

    “A system
    of limitless choices, with respect to communications, is not necessarily in the
    interest of citizen interest or self-government.”
    2.0 (Princeton University Press 2007), Pg. 137

    This sounds ominously like he supports censorship of the
    public’s access to information and could be a direct attack on alternative news
    sources and specifically the internet.

  • E Van

    So what was his answer to the question?

    • Anonymous

      I’d like to kow too. I refuse to watch a video that is over an hour long and be left in limbo. I believe in reality more so than in ideology and people like Sustein are not realistic. His ideas are straight from communist ideology.

    • Bob Compton

      He started off by saying that neither should suffer, then said that he was in favor of abortions. At no time did he acknowledge that unborn human fetuses are human, or that they have any rights. He is an archetypical liberal, and is one scary dude, in that he thinks that his ideas fall into the range of reasonableness. He talks as though what he is saying is obviously the way to think, like ‘of course, obamacare is certainly Constitutional’, and ‘climate change is so obviously man-made’, as though any person with any sense would be foolish to even think of disagreeing with him. He naturally expects people to agree with him, because he is a liberal, so how could he possibly be wrong on anything he thinks?

      • Memphis Viking

        The problem with liberals is not that they’re ignorant, it’s that they know so many things that aren’t so.

        • Bob Compton

          I believe that was Ronald Reagan who said that, am I right? He did have a way with words.

  • Anonymous

    I have horses. And I have dogs. I love both dearly. However, there is a dilemma that is actually in many psychological tests in the workplace: the one where your beloved dog and a child whom you’ve never seen before are both trapped on a railroad track, and a locomotive is racing toward them; and, in the dilemma, you can easily save one of them, but it is an impossibility to save both; so, which would you choose to save, your pet dog or the human child? For me, it is a no-brainer. Human child over a dog, no matter how much I love the dog.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, I don’t really see how that could ever be considered a dilemma. If it is, then you’re seriously messed up in the head.

    • Al Scarbrough

      I totally agree. Most people that would have to think about it before answering never consider the reality of thinking about it and what the alternative is to saving the kid and not the dog. If you choose the alternative of saving the dog then you and everyone witnessing this event gets to watch a child be cut to pieces and slaughtered by a train while you sit there at the side of the tracks hugging your dog and probably saying something like “Oh, good boy! You stayed calm so I could save you! Good boy! Hey! Don’t try to steal that boy’s arm or leg! Get away from his body parts and let the coroner handle that. Bad dog!” Sure, what I am saying here is graphic, but it is the very possible scenario after the train has done its destruction. These abortion proponents and animal rights wackos never think about this scenario and don’t want anyone else to.

  • Connor Davenport

    Cass Sunstein is the same guy that said we need to put starilents into the drinking water to keep stupid people from repudcing. Does he know that those are the same people who support him and Obama.

    • smokehill

      When narcissistic clowns like Obama and Sunnstein get any amount of power, the nation is a great risk. There is very little corruption or deception to which they will not stoop to shove their silly Marxist ideas on an increasingly dumber batch of voters.

  • jackw97224

    Cass Sunstein should be taken to the town square, tied to a post, given 100 lashes with the Cat O’ Nine Tails and then confined to prison for life! What a totally immoral, evil, filthy, lyin’ commie/socialist criminal. If Socrates was givern the choice of bansihment or drinking the hemlock, Sunstein should be force fed the hemlock. Evil is as evil does.

  • Anonymous

    Cass is a braindead liberal, that is told what to do by other braindead liberals with money

  • Anonymous

    Simply put, Sunstein is a fascist. Nothing he writes is moderate.

  • Anonymous

    When my horses get to old and become non- productive I simply take them out in the brush and shoot them. This begs the question; should lib-progs have the same rights as horses?
    I guess I’m the last guy on earth you would want to answer that question.

  • dennis reilly

    just look at his face and you can see the evil

  • Anonymous

    One mans opinion. One that comes from below.

  • suz

    stu referenced this on his show recently and in this morning’s meeting so
    QUESTION TO STU: when glenn speaks of progressives in the collective sense is this not referring to “a people” or a “class/group” and making broad-stroking judgements on them?

    to be clear, i do this too. am i wrong? we know a progressive when we encounter them because of their ideology and lack of understanding certain natural laws of man and the-most-important-constitutional rights. typically, i have no issue w/another citizen, however, when they are in control of the legislation and, in particular how this administration illegally and unethically changes laws that affect every u.s. citizen, does it make me a bigot because i loathe a progressive?

    • Memphis Viking

      Making broad statements about groups of people can be valid, depending on what you’re saying, and who the group is. A group of people identified by actions or values, like progressives or conservatives, can be safely stereotyped in some ways. For instance, it’s perfectly valid to assume a conservative wants limited government interference in our lives, and it’s valid to assume a progressive wants the opposite. But these are groups that people become members of by choice.

      • suz

        i completely agree.

  • Anonymous

    Cass Sunstein would be squarely in the camp of the Nazi’s under Hitler. It amazes me that so many people of Jewish descent are so ignorant and stupid as to support the taking of human life. There is a long list of well known people who squawk and rail against our Constitution, our way of life and seek to undermine it. These are the same people who want to disarm good law abiding citizens. Just how brain dead can they be that they do not remember the history of their people, the mass murders of millions? Either people like Sunstein are overtaken by evil or they are dumb as a box of rocks.

    • Anonymous

      Or both!

      • Anonymous


  • WASP

    Cass Sunstein the jew, another abominable edomite that has his role in the jew world order. The stupid goy after all are merely cattle to be taken advantage of. The worst of the worst of the politicians are always “jews”. Why is that?

  • Moozmom

    How magnificent is God’s love! God even loves Cass!

  • landofaahs

    All you have to know is that Jack Cass and his democrat partners in crime are into population control and they believe they have the moral superiority to decide who lives and who dies, who reproduces and who does not. Of course they themselves will be spared from the effects of their murderous policies.

  • Rob Erta

    Regardless of whether a country is free or subjected to centralized control, technological advance depends upon a few people trying new ways of doing things before such new ways can be made available to the rest.

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