Incomprehensible: President Obama compares the human rights violations of Malaysia to the United States

In the midst of a multi-million dollar Asian tour, President Obama became the first president since Lyndon B. Johnson to visit Malaysia. The Obama Administration has referred to the country as an “emerging partner,” but the alliance is truly bizarre given Malaysia’s record on human rights.

Just last week, CNS News reported the U.S. State Department’s evaluation of Malaysia’s human rights record “identified problem areas including abuses by security forces and restrictions of freedom of the press, speech, assembly, association and religion.” In regards to religious intolerance, the State Department identified the following issues:

-Denial of legal status to some religious groups

-Restrictions on proselytizing and on the freedom to change one’s religion (except that members of other religions may convert to Islam)

-Marriages between Muslims and non-Muslims are not recognized by the state and children born of such marriages are considered illegitimate

-While Islamic religious instruction is compulsory for Muslim children in public schools, non-Muslim students are not allowed to take classes in their religion, but instead must take non-religious morals and ethics courses.

-The government prohibits publications, public events and debates which it says may incite racial or religious disharmony, including public discussions of issues such as religious freedom and apostasy.

On radio this morning, Glenn played the audio of President Obama at a press conference with Malaysian Prime Minister Najib on Sunday, in which the President makes a head scratching human rights comparison between the Southeast Asian nation and the U.S.

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“So I couldn’t think of what they were doing over in Malaysia. I’m like, what did he go over there for? He was supposed to announce a trade agreement that fell through… So he had nothing to do but apologize for the unions,” Glenn said. “So he goes over to Malaysia. In Malaysia, you know, you have anything at all going on that’s Christian, and they’ll kill you in the streets. You don’t have a right to talk about another religion. You don’t have a right to leave Islam. You don’t have a right to convert to any other religion besides Islam. It’s really bad. Really, really bad. There are no human rights.”

CBS News’ Major Garrett asked President Obama to expand on what the U.S. could do “to speak out on behalf of human rights, racial tolerance, political accountability and free speech” especially given the situation in Malaysia.

“I think the Prime Minister is the first to acknowledge that Malaysia has still got some work to do — just like the United States, by the way, has some work to do on these issues. Human Rights Watch probably has a list of things they think we should be doing as a government,” President Obama responded. “And I am going to be constantly committed to making sure that these issues get raised in a constructive way. And Prime Minister Najib came in as a reformer and one who is committed to it, and I’m going to continue to encourage him as a friend and a partner to make sure that we’re making progress on that front.”

You can watch the President’s full remarks below:

“You have got to be kidding,” Pat said. “Unbelievable.”

As Glenn explained, for all those sitting in Malaysian prisons because they have stood up for liberty and freedom, President Obama’s arrival in the country was probably a source of great hope. When asked to address the human rights issue, however, he not only makes excuses for Malaysia, but he also demonizes the United States.

“We’re not jailing people for their religion yet… It is so far from the United States,” Glenn said. “So you’re sitting in jail and you’re thinking to yourself, ‘Oh my gosh – the United States – they’re one of them. They’re the same. There’s nobody standing up for me. I’m going to rot here in jail. There’s nobody holding a light up in the world.’”

“People wonder why we have our doubts about where his allegiance lies. [It’s] because he goes all over the world and says this kind of stuff,” Pat concluded. “In a country that has virtually zero human rights, he goes there and says, ‘Yes, they have some issues but so do we,’ and he compares our civil rights issues to theirs. It’s despicable. It’s incomprehensible.”

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  • Ser Jorah Mormont
  • Populist democrat

    Most of the gibberish that comes out of Beck’s mouth is incomprehensible and despicable lies. Yes, Glenn Beck, the U.S. has a ways to go on human rights. Remember OWS? They were suppressed by the gov’t. NDAA? Government oppression. The list goes on.

  • JAEGER

    Glenn, I agree with much of what you say, but I have to correct you on this. I lived in Malaysia for a while. I saw people changing religions all the time, with no secrecy; the only restriction is Muslims cannot leave Islam (which I don’t like either). Maybe decades ago it was as bad as you say, but I barely moved back to the US a few years ago. I even spent large amounts of time in heavily Muslim areas (ie, Tawau, Malaysia is 90% Muslim).

  • Anonymous

    We have CONTUS that enumerates our rights as citizens and limits powers of the three separate branches of government; however we are a people that readily dismiss what we continually affirm. Consider this; The United States authorizes the murder of 53 million of it’s citizens since 1973; in Malaysia abortion is illegal as are homosexual acts.
    It’s no wonder the world doesn’t want us to preach at it. Secular preaching doesn’t work as will not unethical justice.

  • Deckard426

    Apparently, flying around on a big airplane and taking thirty-seven vacations a year, all at taxpayer expense, isn’t enough to make the little boy from Kenya appreciate the United States.

  • Anonymous

    I think you misunderstood him Glenn,
    he wants to partner with Malaysia and other countries to restrict human rights, anywhere it is not in direct alignment with his perverted views on what they should be.

  • Jesustheonlyway

    And just when I thought I couldn’t find Obama any more detestable – he’s such a total waste.

  • M. Fazio

    He just wanted Take another “VACATION” on the TAXPAYER’S DIME under the guise of some International Tour. Did he take his Family and Extended Family with him again?

    Obonzo (The CHUMP Chimp) really does hate Washington and the White House, He is NEVER THERE!

  • Steve Politte

    Obama’s “I Hate America” theme has been branded into his mind, never to change, by his father. And now, so many people will try and diminish that theme, whether it is Glenn Beck, Dr. Ben Carson, or whoever believes in the goodness of this country, and condemn them for opposing these vicious words. It seems apparent that more and more Americans, who have benefited from those freedoms and the rights that we are barely clinging onto now, are chanting those same words. That my friends, is the undoing of this once great nation. But you will rarely here those words from someone who has had to fight to preserve those freedoms and rights, and often times, have given their lives, that ultimately price, for all others. So, if that is the current thinking of so many well meaning American citizens today, then what is the hope for our children and grandchildren, for a future in this county? Goodbye America!

  • Anonymous

    All I want in my daily wants is an Obama Free United States of America, the way it used to be. I feel like we are all in a crazy dream and are acting out Nineteen Eighty-Four. Big Brother was not just a horrible notion of the future world, as we see it happening in front of us. I mourn.

  • joshua

    Sooo….. Impeachment?…. When can we get the ball rolling on this?

  • ISawTheLight

    Fundamental Transformation now choke on it !!

  • ISawTheLight

    Excellent post Steve .
    Those who sit and wait are also the same who claim they know !

  • Anonymous

    Obama does not believe in the United States. To him we are despicable. More over the more he can divide this nation, the more it falls which is what he wants. With everyone fighting for small causes and not paying attention to the big picture, his party can gain more power, abuse it and not be called for the huge debt, the failed foreign policy, the destabilization of the middle east paid for by this administration, the loss of economy, over 100 million out of work, the first US generation to live less in standards than the previous generation, rising prices and inflation, enforcement of laws they choose while ignoring others, using the IRS as a weapon against the citizens, devaluing the dollar by printing more and taking it off the world stage as the foundation, destroying the US as a world leader, destroying the US military might, enacting socialist policies like taking over illegally 1/6th of the US economy/business healthcare, investing and loosing billions of US dollars in failed ecological green companies, attacking Christianity, shouting down God at his presidential convention and pushing the rise of antisemitism and racism, controlling the media, pushing anti constitutional law like the patriot act and enforcing such, calling for the repeal of the second amendment all the while funding al-qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood with weapons ( which resulted in the death of ambassador Stevens) as well arms to Mexican drug lords and now this week talking about restricting free speech and the first amendment, THE MOST destructive, divisive anti US president ever to hold such an office.

  • Anonymous

    The movie producers weren’t kidding when the put out their logo materials for Atlas Shrugged (the Ayn Rand novel of political suppression) with the catch phrase “Atlas Shrugged-now Non-Fiction”.

  • BlueMN

    “The enormous US prison population, the world’s largest, partly reflects
    harsh sentencing practices contrary to international law, such as
    disproportionately long prison terms and mandatory sentencing without
    parole. Those behind bars include a growing number of elderly people,
    whom prisons are ill-equipped to handle, and youth under age 18 held in
    adult prisons. Unauthorized immigrants and their families in the United
    States are vulnerable to abuses stemming from an outdated, ineffective
    immigration system that deprives them of basic rights, and increasing
    numbers are held in detention facilities. A number of abusive
    counterterrorism policies have continued under President Barack Obama,
    including detentions without charge at Guantanamo Bay.” -Human Rights Watch

    https://www.hrw.org/united-states

    Beck: “So you’re sitting in jail and you’re thinking to yourself, ‘Oh my gosh –
    the United States – they’re one of them. They’re the same. There’s
    nobody standing up for me. I’m going to rot here in jail. There’s nobody
    holding a light up in the world.’”

    I’d take Beck more seriously on that if he had come out against the US letting POWs… sorry, “enemy combatants” “rot in jail” in GTMO. I’d take President Obama more seriously if he had actually shut it down in 2009 like he had ordered.

  • Sean Connolly

    OWS? Seriously?

  • Anonymous

    As bad as things are at times, they can always be worse. Anything else is not always better. Beware any savior that will lead you to the promised land. To correct our course will require wisdom and determination.

  • Laughing at you

    Occupy. Really? Shut up troll!

  • Populist democrat

    In other words, you don’t care that a protest movement was brutally crushed here, but if the government had done the same to the teabaggers, there would be hell to pay.

  • Populist democrat

    Try actually informing yourself instead of asking dumb questions.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_crime_of_peaceful_protest_20140427

  • Populist democrat
  • IDAHO PATRIOT

    If odumbass had his way we would be more like Maylasia than the USA! The levels of anti-American sentiment coming from this corrupt regime is mind boggling. Wake up people its going to get a LOT worse before queen odumbass is finished. MOLON LABE!!! nsa dhs gfy

  • Anonymous

    KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — President Barack Obama on Sunday pressed
    the Malaysian government to improve its human rights record and appealed
    to Southeast Asia’s teeming youth population to stand up for the rights
    of minorities and the rule of law.Obama said he had raised his concerns about Malaysia’s restrictions on
    political freedoms during meetings with Prime Minister Najib Razak.”Those values are at the core of who the U.S. is, but also I think are a
    pretty good gauge of whether a society is going to be successful in the
    21st century or not,” Obama said during a news conference with Najib.

    Obama wrapped up his stay in Malaysia, the third stop on a
    four-country swing through Asia, with a business-related event Monday
    morning. Executives from three American companies — General Electric
    Co., Verdezyne Inc. and MetLife Inc. — signed agreements with Malaysian
    companies as Obama and Najib looked on. Obama said the deals are worth
    nearly $2 billion.

    “It means these companies will be doing more
    business in Malaysia and selling more exports marked ‘Made in America,’”
    he said. “These deals support American jobs in places like Ohio and
    North Carolina, and companies that export often pay better wages, so
    it’s a good day for American workers as well.”

  • Populist democrat

    Discussion of the suppression of human rights here in the US:
    http://acronymtv.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/the-illegitimacy-of-the-u-s-government/

  • Sean Connolly

    I guess if we want to start making assumptions I’m guessing you’re one of those self-entitled punks that fouled the parks, raped women, destroyed property all whille forming drum circles like a bunch of dirty hippies while demanding the fruits of anothers labor while banging away on your macbook keyboard writing a stupid blog railing against big corporation while charging your smart phones in Mcdonalds….right? Piss off DB.

  • Anonymous

    Radical extremist love Obama!

  • landofaahs

    I somewhat agree with Obama. Obama is guilty of using government to pushing his policies that destroy our human rights to privacy, the right to bare arms, the right to life, the right to liberty and property, and the right to equal treatment under the law. So thanks for admitting your crimes Obama. Confession is good for the soul. Now step down from the presidency and go back to where you came from, wherever that is.

  • Bill Tilghman

    The proof of this man’s unsuitability for the Office is revealed on a daily basis, and yet he lacks the sense of responsibility to resign. Instead he continues to double down and continually lies to the American public as well as the world.

    It is beyond time for him to go and he proves that with each passing moment.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Your ignorance shines through your pseudonym – Victor Scott Tiffany.

    Now everyone knows who you are and you can’t do a thing about it.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Another troll heard from. No one gives any serious consideration to your posts. You are aware of that, aren’t you?

  • Bill Tilghman

    Without doing that course correction we continue on the path we are presently on.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Unfortunately, that gigantic hole in the center of him can never be filled.

  • Anonymous

    We elected this man …twice. we need to get our arms around this fact. This nation MUST correct this.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Be gone Victor. No one cares about your trolling.

  • Bill Tilghman

    It was not a protest movement, it was a public bowel movement and you should know, Victor, you were smack dab in the middle of it.

  • Bill Tilghman

    You have no information, only propaganda and lies.

  • Bill Tilghman

    He’s Victor Scott Tiffany of Ithaca, New York – he comes here to spew anti-Beck hate and really has nothing to offer except for the obvious progressive horse manure he always spreads. He used to use his real name to post under, but has to use pseudonyms to get on here. He’s been banned from posting here two times I know of, and he is a total troll.

    I know him well as I have been reading his BS here for years. He just tries to hide it and lurks here every day.

    You got the guy dead to rights.

  • Anonymous

    Incomprehensible? No-vintage Left Wing dribble and drivel-typical Obama venality. He learned it from his Typical White mother and Typical White friend Bill Ayers who learned it from Typical White Alinsky..

    Either that or it is George Bush’s fault.

  • Richard Combs

    He can never lie or steal or inflict enough pain…what makes a man like him? He wants revenge…for being born.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone take Obama at his word anymore…period?

  • chip griffin

    call mlk, glen see what to do next, fruit cake

  • Anonymous

    Why do you hate the country that gives you the right to say the negative things you do about it without persecution? Nobody is out to get you. You aren’t in a prison cell for your political views. Move on with your life.

  • Anonymous

    Geeee – Can’t talk about any religion except Islam in Malaysia? Can’t even talk about ANY religion in USA! Obama wants the atheists to rule here. (So the Muslims can take over.) In America – Free Speech? Human rights? Only if you agree with whatever the government (that is LIBERALS) say. Otherwise you have to answer to the IRS, the NSA, the BLM, the State Dept, etc. etc. etc. Yeah – he was right to compare us!!

  • Jeremy Armour

    Glenn is about half right here, although he doesn’t seem to know why. Which is odd, given that he is one of the people who originally discussed this. I have some friends. They are first generation immigrants (LEGAL immigrants) from one of the former Soviet bloc nations. They didn’t grow up going to Labor Day & Memorial Day parades. They didn’t grow up saying the Pledge or Allegiance every morning. They didn’t grow up in a patriotic American culture where they celebrated the Founding Fathers either, but they’re some of the most patriotic Americans that I know!

    Obama isn’t anti-American because he didn’t grow up here. Barack Hussein Obama is anti-American because he is a hard core Communist! His mother was a hard core Communist. His grandparents were hard core Communists. His mentor ‘Uncle Frank’ (Frank Marshall Davis) was hard core Communist. His mother sent him to live with his grandparents because his step-father Lolo Soetoro was too pro-American, and she didn’t want that pro-American influence on her son! Add to that the fact that Obama was raised as a Muslim, and, whether he still is a Muslim or not, his sympathies most certainly lie with the Islamic world, and you see that the only thing that Glenn is right about here is that there is no way we should think that Obama is even capable of being pro-American! He’s been force fed anti-American, pro-Soviet & pro-Islamic beliefs and opinions his whole life! Throw in some anti-white racism, some Black Liberation Theology and a willfully ignorant public, and you have an almost perfect wrecking ball for the country, and that’s exactly what we’re seeing play out right in front of us!!!

  • David Wilson

    Shut up Glen you 2 face jackass…

  • Anonymous

    He’s deaf, dumb, and blind to the truth. He can’t appreciate what the USA is about in any way. The very things that make us great are the things he makes war on, determined we should be like all other nations. He’s damaging not only our country but the entire world. He is the product of the twisted minds of guilt ridden fools, suggestible weak-minded faithless men and women. Not long ago Great Britain ruled the world. The sun never set upon the British Empire. What happened to it. What brought it down? It was always a small island nation but it had a grasp on its identity and its ideology. It was a Christian nation, guided by those principles and empowered by that spirit. When it lost that – it lost it’s empire. It now has sunken into weakness and its culture is polluted by false ideas. It’s a dying state, England, only kept secure by its relationship to the USA. And yet now the same disease of guilt and socialist solutions to problems, the same though not as sever a rejection of a manifest Christian faith — has come upon us. And it will cost the world dearly. The friend, the benefactor, the help in time of tyranny and war – will no longer be able to come. No, we’ve never been perfect. No nation is. That’s not what I’m saying here. I’m telling you our abandonment of our faith has left us defenseless. The first sign was our choice of a president who was a traitor, a saboteur and a liar. He seemed right for the part in the minds of those whose senses have been twisted into unrecognizable shapes. We’ve got very little, if any, time to redeem ourselves before it’s just too late. We need to rid ourselves of the scourge and reclaim who and what we are.

  • Anonymous

    This WH Faker is the worst divisive, manipulating political trash talker of anyone of the Deemers yet……what a POS this half man is….

  • Anonymous

    I am soooo sick of him & his & his precious family’s vacations, his golf, his fund-raising stumps cross-country in a day — at the cost of millions and millions of our money.
    On June 7, 2013 – last year – there was a terrible shooting at a Santa Monica CA community college. When the shooting first occurred, the press reported that Obama was at a fund raiser just minutes away. Within minutes of the beginning of the incident, the reporting of Obama being anywhere nearby was completely omitted. Never heard another word of it. It has been completely washed from the reporting/google. Yet, I listened to the live reporting & I know! he was at a private home for a fundraiser. What this guy does with our money is mind-boggling! And who knows who he meets & what he’s doing … His open-mike with Putin is just the tip of the iceberg….

    “Transparency” – HA! what a joke that is. I used to think he was just incompetent. Now — You decide.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    he is a punk. period!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t really think that Obama is incompetent. I think that he’s trying to destroy this country and he knows precisely how to accomplish this. He’s not incompetent, he’s diabolical and he’s narcissistic.

  • Anonymous

    Look, I’d agree to give him ten times the money he’s spent on vacations — which would bring the whole amount to, say, 5 billion — if he’d just stay on vacation and not communicate with the home base. It would be well worth it. A bargain in fact.

  • Anonymous

    PD – Who pays you to get on this site???

  • Anonymous

    We are headed down a bad road because most people who vote don’t have a clue about what’s written in the Constitution. The people we elect DO know a lot about it, and therefore it’s easy to manipulate the low information crowd that this country has become. It’s a lot like the popes and bishops in the early Church days who knew Latin (unlike most of the citizens) and could manipulate God’s Word to the untrained ear’s desire.
    I completely agree with you that things can always be worse. Things have gotten worse under Obama’s reign, but for the time being, this nation remains the best place on earth to live.
    Liberals need to wake up and be liberal enough to let Conservatives practice their values or this country will rip apart at the seams in…I’d say about 10 more years.

  • Natalie Ayres

    Spot on. Also the various abuses (including solitary confinement and life sentences for youth offenders) of the prison system in America as whole which imprisons more people, a majority for non-violent drug offences, proportionally, than any other country.

  • J.f. Willey

    no no barry for now on you will do as We the People say.. We are done with your insubordination to We the People. #TimeToTakeBackAmerica

  • jus’cuz

    you use the word “we” loosely!

  • jus’cuz

    We must be paying for your phone, food and lodging too!

  • jus’cuz

    More and more I am more amazed that this self appointed king isn’t impeached! what further destruction to our Constitution/ Bill of rights will our supposed (for the people) elected officials allow….to what will they benefit (even their own heirs) when freedom is abolished?

  • Anonymous

    My view is that we are all part of one country .. and I hope we are United in all we do because we all have to live with the decisions of the majority. It is naive I know but I prefer unity to disunity. I most certainly did not vote for Mr. Obama. I prefer qualified candidates and he falls far short. Some of my fellow citizens may have used Affirmative Action as the basis for their vote but the concept doesn’t apply to the Presidency of the United States. Still the deed was done twice.

  • Janet Bunch

    Glen, when I first started listening to you I thought you were crazy, but now am beginning to believe what you are saying but I see no way out as a open minded person because I feel our country is doomed . The country we once knew is gone and most younger people don’t believe in God anymore so that fear is gone so anything go’s with them, and our government is selling us out t the highest buyer and don’t care about our kids or grand kids, only money rules so what can we do? complaining doesn’t help because I do that every time I get the opportunity but most people really don’t care. Even you have been telling it and where has it got you? So I ask what can we do!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    hats off to reporter Major Garrett. dude seems one of few to really challenge this man. surprised BHO had the guts to entertain a question from him.

  • Marie

    Read Agenda 21, We are moving closer to it. We will be really lost once Common Core Takes hold because it is nothing but indoctrination of our children.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Unfortunately we’ve forgotten how to judge a man’s character and simply believe whatever he says. Character matters, by it you may have confidence he will do right when no one is watching.

  • Robert L. Rice

    obozo is an A$$ kissing moron,potus wannabe,with an ugly wife………

  • Anonymous

    Just heard it from the first video from Beck’s mouth, “It’s not a slam on him – Obama, he wasn’t raised here.”
    Glenn has gone over, he said it from his own mouth.
    He is defending Obama for what he said.
    Alex nailed it…Benedict Beck

    It’s just a waste of time hanging here, you cannot force or make Beck accomplish your expectations. No matter how it bothers you to see who you thought was a patriot. All diversions hereon, and if you are easily deceived you will stay deceived.

  • Slayer88

    I despise him more everytime he opens his mouth, how dispicable a person he is.

  • Take 2

    Excuse Me But –

    People are considered mentally incompetent if they suffer from a disorder
    or illness that renders them unable to make sound judgments concerning
    their welfare or the welfare of others whom they are responsible for.

  • Ncrdbl1

    And thousands of people out there still claim he is not a muslim

  • Rob Wolgemuth

    Longest sentence I’ve ever read.

  • landofaahs

    In the next few days, I intend to tell a story of odumbass that you have probably never heard. I hope you will find it as humorous as I do.

  • Richard Tremaine

    Ten years my foot. We will be under the sod in less than three years, just about the time obama is giving one of his speeches to a union somewhere in never, never land and pick up his $hundred thousand dollar speakers fee.

  • Richard Tremaine

    Marie, indoctrination has been happening the last 40 years. One of the tenants of a Socialistic State is to infiltrate the school system with a Socialist agenda. It happened to all 5 of my children and they all got to their thirties before the truth caught up with them. Thankfully they have gained common sense.

  • Rob Britt

    Obama’s scum.
    That short enough for you?

  • Anonymous

    I think he wants to harm others, and he’s good at it.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty quick, I hope neither of us are right though.

  • Anonymous

    Move to Malaysia.

  • Anonymous

    He’s not defending Obama. I was listening to it on the radio and caught the full context of the quote and he was saying that Obama is predisposed to being anti-American. He thinks we should have never expected him to be a patriot, and we are fools for having elected him. Come on here, you’re being ridiculous. You know Beck says 1,000 blatantly anti-Obama statements to every vague (and in your case misinterpreted) one like this.

  • Anonymous

    We haven’t sunk as bad yet, it’s only a matter of time though. That being said, I found your insight correct.

  • Anonymous

    What I fail to comprehend is how racial tension increased AFTER the first black president was elected. Many people voted for him knowing nothing about him except his skin color.

  • Richard Tremaine

    Talk about gibberish, Democrat suggests Beck lies, and is incomprehensible. He should reread his blurb for incomprehension. You have no idea what your talking about and it shows. If I were you, I would drop the Populist part. You have lost common sense.

  • Richard Tremaine

    You finally got something right.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not holding my breath on that one. It’s the moment to impeach him isn’t it? Now more than ever. There isn’t exactly Watergate level coverage going on here is there?

  • Richard Tremaine

    I should have known the above lead-in here was from the AP. I wouldn’t have bothered reading it if I had remembered. When the AP gets rid of their Communist personnel I might feel better about the Associated Press.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry that that is hilariously incorrect (unless you count a vacation as not working during the weekend)

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/aug/12/al-sharpton/al-sharpton-defends-obama-family-vacation-saying-g/

    Obama has taken 92 days of vacation since being sworn in compared to Bush’s 367…..why don’t you attack Bush for taking so many vacations…..

  • Anonymous

    So what has he done that is illegal?

    According to the Supreme Court: “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” are the only crimes that can be impeached on. So what exactly has he done that is illegal? Are you seriously wanting him impeached for saying some regarding Malaysia?

    If so that makes you anti-American doesn’t it….I mean you are the one advocating imprisoning people for saying things….going against the First Amendment…..

  • Anonymous

    He covered up the reality of the deaths of 4 people, used the IRS to target Conservatives (Liberals weren’t targeted, don’t even go there), and he killed a U.S. citizen with a drone without trial.

  • Anonymous

    Do you even know what Communism is? If Communism were actually implemented (not as a totalitarian dictatorship which is by definition not communist) Americans as a whole would be better off (but of course Communism isn’t possible since there is always corruption).

    Please stop using buzzwords you don’t know…..also please provide sources if you want to make baseless claims…otherwise you come off as an idiot

    According to wikipedia: Communism is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money, and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.

  • Anonymous

    But true.

  • Anonymous

    If he’s a troll why don’t you rebut him using facts…….or do you not have any that you can use…..

  • Anonymous

    I am really getting tired of this person apologizing for us around the world. No wonder most of us don’t have ANY respect for him. The man is a J…A..

  • Anonymous

    Jesus….the US maybe have been founded on Christian ideals, but the founders (who were pretty forward thinking) decided that religion had no place in government and made their Declaration and Constitution very religion agnostic.

    Great Britain collapsed under its own weight, the rebels in the US were very lucky to have won.

    And the US isn’t exactly weak….we are currently the world police and we are weakening due to massive over military spending (that republicans support) and other extremely expensive endeavors that waste money (financial aid for schools….studies have found that if the US made tertiary education entirely government subsidized…like Canada….then they would actually save money.)

    Why do you keep harping on whether Obama is Christian…he says he is….and either way it doesn’t matter…we have no national religion…that was by *design* by our freaking founders who we all love so very much.

  • Anonymous

    he wants revenge for his father. but then again we are not slamming him are we glenn?

  • Anonymous

    lol
    Warranted long example list of presidential poor leadership ever. And hey, that’s OK sentence structure and grammar under common core! ;)

  • Alex

    Please for the love of God study some of your previous Presidents….

  • Alex

    Screw that open-mindedness you recieve from school right? Took a hole 15 years before they figured out that is a stupid idea, and the individual centrism you have tried to teach them since their youth has finally made you proud…right?

  • Anonymous

    Frankly, under Obama, Human rights in Amerika are in decline. They may not have reached the level of a Malaysia yet. But they are in free fall with no end in sight. A little economic collapse leading to martial law, so that Obama can continue on for his third and fourth terms as POS POTUS, will end human rights in Amerika as you know it.

  • http://www.thecontract.us scotthudson

    Want the real truth? Then read The Contract On The Government. It is the book the politicians and bureaucrats DO NOT want you reading. Find out more here: http://www.thecontract.us/

  • Wolfy Ghalkhani

    it must be a disease that only afflicts Americans- a hatred for their nation, its prosperity and innovation unequaled in the world and its goodness. Maybe all that easy living and junk food binging has gotten them down and they need to bully something, anything that’s an easy target . So why not bash America the land that doesn’t stand for anything anymore? Isn’t it a shame that people who have grown fat living in the worlds greatest nation trash it in an attempt to gain an audience?
    Americans have devolved into a people who take pride in bashing their faith, their history, their flag and nation because they think its cool. Well its not. For those who are too ignorant to understand. Other nations don’t think its cool to be a traitor to the land of your birth. They don’t think its cool to burn your national flag. They don’t think its cool to bash your foundation religion. But Americans do or I should say lefty entitled Americans do. In case you American hating Americans don’t know it yet – Nobody’s impressed by Amerika anymore.The world makes fun of your like when you’re not looking and holds you in the highest contempt especially in the Asian countries where loyalty is considered a virtue.

  • Anonymous

    I think at this point I’ve become so disappointed about what I see and read from this site I need to move on. There are plenty of intelligent people here to sort the pepper from the salt.

    Only one admonishment from me…think critically when you hear and never cease to pray for America.

  • Anonymous

    The two nations’ human rights records ARE (or WILL BE) comparable, IF Obama’s plans for US to become sharia-lawed Obamerica, as of 2015, come to pass.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    I’ve come to the conclusion that PolitiFact is a left-leaning (or has leftist tendencies) “fact-checker.” They tend to pick and slam more right-wing politicians over left-wing ones.

    Also, consider what Bush did on all those vacations (which were to either his ranch in Texas or his family homes in Maine, apparently never going anywhere exotic). They were nothing compared to Obama’s extravagant trips despite his claims that they couldn’t afford certain other perks.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/03/26/Obamas-Vacation-More-Lavishly-than-Bushes

    Don’t give me this Templar spew about how Obama took only 93 days of vacation because you’re not factoring in how much they cost taxpayers. All of GWB’s vacations combined cost far less than every single vacation Obama has taken. Remember Michelle Obama taking all those solo trips (like going to Spain and skiing in Aspen)? She has cost taxpayers nearly $10 million just by herself, not to mention she recently earned the hatred of kids all around America for the meager lunches they’re getting at school. The Obama Administration is a failure.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    The only difference here is that it’s centered in District of Columbia, not London.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    Woodrow Wilson’s fixation on the League of Nations and the Fourteen Points were what had Freud declare him clinically insane.

    Obama’s not far off, given his obsession of destroying Free America.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    History has shown us time and again that Communism doesn’t work, because at the core the money is controlled by the government. And when gov’t has its hands on all the money, first (and, dare I say, only) priority goes to the loyal. Additionally, there is zero competition under Communism, and thus a lack of innovation or technological progress. Since there’s nothing to beat (aka no opponent), there’s no real motivation to put in any extra effort, and what you’re left with in the end is a mess that nobody wants. Since mediocrity is the par for Communism, the quality of mediocrity diminishes over time due largely in part to a lack of the aforementioned effort to try hard because everyone will eventually expect the government to take care of everything for them (the reason being that the hard-working quit due to their efforts being taken away and being rewarded to the lazy…sound familiar?). Thus the economy crashes and the country is left destitute.

    After World War II, how Germany got back on its economic feet is because they applied *Capitalist* principles instead of Communist ones (under ordoliberalism, which relies heavily on the free market, a highly capitalist move).

  • Jenn

    you can attack President Bush all you want but at least there were plenty of jobs around…

  • annie brown

    Well said…

  • Oscar Pearson

    Wasting our money flying to a Muslim country – oops – I forgot these are his people!

  • annie brown

    That sounds about right…

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    based on glenn’s argument that bho didn’t grow up in the united states so why would we expect him have the same affection for it as we do? this rationale explains why his ambassador nominees have no clue about the country they’d be ambassador to. it’s just, once again, letting the guy off-the-hook. YES IT IS A SLAM to say he does not have the required affection for the country that it takes to be president!
    ____
    by the way, why malaysia? because he’s thanking the malaysian government for the awesome way they took direction on the missing passenger plane fiasco and shoring up some loose ends…in person.

  • Anonymous

    So far neither party is willing to change course….just speed.

  • Anonymous

    No, because his skin is black and he resents it. So he takes it out on everyone else, like it is their fault. The man is disgusting and his hatred for this country is appalling.

  • roberta4343

    so lobbying is not bribery? lying to the people is not treason? making laws that violate the principles of the constitution? lying people into war is not treason or a high crime? robbing people at gunpoint is not a high crime?(unjust taxes, civil forfeiture, which is theft) you all need to just admit that man rule (gov) will never work never be reformed and never solve the problems we all so desperately need solved. we need a ruler/s who is unselfish, honest, trustworthy, understands humans fully and can solve these problems without violating righteous principles or morality. one who can see right into the heart of the matter. who cannot be bribed, scared or intimidated in anyway to compromise who cannot be corrupted. guess who that one is.

  • Anonymous

    Obambe is the ‘Great Divider’ He has divided this country to where America was in 1860!! Countries all over the world have come to realize that America has a total jack-a$$ for president!

  • Populist democrat

    So you’re not informed enough to realize how many lies Beck tells? Why don’t you Google: “Does Glenn Beck lie?” You might learn something more important than anything that Beck spouts.

  • Populist democrat

    Not in the least. Try getting informed before spewing ignorant nonsense.

  • Populist democrat

    Knee-jerk, reactionary reply. Why not make America more free?

  • roberta4343

    communism is taken from the word (this is how I understand it)community, community in a legal dictionary (blacks law of 1910 and another law dictionary I used to have but gave away shame on me) is husband and wife, or corporation so what again are you saying about communism then? community property (husband and wife) the property is not given to everyone iwho just happen to live in the same neighborhood as the husband and wife who are divorcing. the principles of common ownership just means everyone owns it but no one gets to benefit from it because you will always have administrators (gov) who decide how much is your fair share and always has to steal the means of production from those who actually invested time,effort,money and innovative power to it. no one is going ot invest their own time, capital etc to a project to innovate or make something more beneficial to all if they are only going to get the same as everyone else who then will steal their innovation as common ownership and they no longer have control or benefit from it except at subsistence lifestyle. I would not go the extra 2 miles on growing crops only to have a group calling themselves gov come in a take 90 percent or even 100 percent and divvy up the stolen goods to me whatever they feel like giving me. no communism is flawed at it’s core and so is capitalism, since all are based on competition for resources and many will lose as win. it is based on grabbing as much of the market as you can and there will always be poor and rich. communist ideals try to level the playing field but will not work because human nature as it is will not allow it, no one wants to work long and hard while others will work less to only achieve subsistence living because that is all you will have once everything is spread out evenly. most want to go beyond survival to the next day to labor hard for little in return, it is unjust to expect that. human beings need more than what working animals need, they need self sufficiency, to be able to pursue dreams and live life to the full, subsistence will not allow for this. capitalism will allow some but unfortunantly is so difficult to know since captilism definition in my mind is to vague but one thing is for sure we all have a right ot life liberty and property that we have earned ourselves these principles are unchanging no matter what system of gov you are under all gov can do is encourage just behavior by all or steal what you have to give to the losers (whether by birth, health or choice)not one human has a higher claim over you then you do, but government (a group of people who feel they have a higher claim)seems to think group agreements trumps that, why I will never know considering they do not give you rights they can either protect them or violate them. communism follows positive rights capitalism negative rights. neither shall the two ever meet or work out if they did. positive rights are always based on force, violence, and win lose proposition (I guess capitalism can be said the same in some ways) captilism is based on negative rights which means voluntary actions without coercion or force applied keeping most of the fruits of your labor. (hence why corporations and greedy creeps have to use the power of gov to get around that so I guess we can call this system of gov a soft communism) so we are under communism (at least most of the principles of share and share alike and everyone contributes hence heavier taxes on the more rich less on the less rich and shared ownership of land and houses and other property you have earned )property taxes fees and permits you must buy to use/improve your property) and shared income by giving from the rich to the poor via welfare subsides.) so I would say we have communism right here, just not hard core ( as there still is enough wealth to go around yet it has not been depleted yet) but once that is gone then what? will communism take another turn to be hard core because resources will now be scarece enough to cause riots, unemployment will be sky high property owners will not care for their property anymore for free (no improvments, not able to pay the bills etc) so now the gov will have to get accomplished through more force to keep houses running, children being raised, schools kept open farms kept operational etc, but how? since no one is working no money (trade) is flowing and no one has any incentive since there is no good returns on investments what little you have (your life/labor) and everyone is hungry. so more force will have to be applied and this is where military and population control comes into, a gun will literally have to be applied to get people towork for free. the little reward they will get (since human labor is always inefficient and causes low production)will be a bowl of soup and piece of bread because once all is evenly spread out that is all you will get.

  • Anonymous

    Because dumba$$ Bush isn’t president, and since you seem you cant let go, bush took his at his house where they had a communications room set up, he hosted foreign leaders at his house, and conducted meetings at his house and he went there when congress wasn’t in session. I would wager the cost of Bush going to his house was drastically less that the costs of the Obamas vacations. And Laura didn’t jet off with the girls for separate vacations. Tell me ow many leaders has Obama hosted on vacations…waiting….waiting….

  • Marie

    Nor Iran-Contra coverage. Always vote Republican because you will at least know they will be investigated. If the President doesn’t get impeached or imprisoned at least some in admin. take the fall. Yes, some will come back and say Clinton was impeached, but not for a true scandal.

  • E.T. Tishbite

    I think everyone is missing the most important point here. All the obvious has been stated, but the question remains, Who is this “Human Rights Watch” who has a “list” of things “we should be doing as a government.” Is this another U.N. entity that in Obummer’s unconstituional, one-world govt. mind we are to be subject to? Is this “list” of which he speaks their laws which he thinks over-rule the US Constitution?

  • tinwhistler

    The Congress should cut off funding for the White House and stop these trips.

  • Marie

    This is indoctrination on steroids. We have the uninformed public now. The next generation will be totally brainwashed.

  • IT IT IT IT 9

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  • Anonymous

    Please provide sources for those numbers you’re throwing around (preferably that aren’t extreme right sites like the one you linked)

  • Anonymous

    Until the end of his presidency in 2008 where all his policies ended up in the Recession we still have today

  • Anonymous

    You…..don’t understand communism. The basic tenet is that the end result is there is no government. Just communes that work together through mutual agreement to take care of everyone. That wouldn’t work in real life as someone WILL get greedy eventually…but please don’t try to say that communism is some terrible Soviet monstrosity (for the record…they weren’t communist…they perverted the word)

  • Laughing at you

    First of all OWS was not crushed, it got cold outside and the spoiled little brats went home. That just shows how committed they were. I am all for holding big government and their puppet masters accountable and we did in the 60s. Question Authority! But when someone says something as ignorant as your statement above and blindly follows this or any corrupt administration I must comment. The main purpose of this speech was to elevate Islam and further denigrate the USA. To compare human rights in Malaysia to America is a disgrace. I don’t know why I bother because you probably are too close minded to even hear the truth. If you had an open mind you would notice that at least half of the time Glenn Beck is pointing out the problems on the right side of the aisle but alas In your “sound bite, liberal talking point” little world you are not allowed to have you own opinion. The tea party movement is closer to the old democrat party as far a values then this current mess referred to a democrats. Stop listening to the propaganda and look at the facts!

  • Anonymous

    In our case, “it’s not revenge we want but a reckoning!”.

  • Roger Reid

    Oprah accuses the right of hating Obama because he is black! I don’t know whether it rises to the level of hate but he is strongly disliked for crap like this not his skin color!

  • Krimsen King

    So apparently, the premise is that if a country has ever done anything wrong in history, we cannot have any contact with them??? Are you kidding me???? Did he ‘make excuses for Malaysia’??? Did he really ‘demonize the United States’??? You do realize that recognition of good effort is not by any means ‘making excuses’ and that criticism is by NO MEANS ‘demonizing’… good grief the hyperbole is ridiculously thick….

  • Krimsen King

    careful your fear and anger don’t draw you into darkness… people don’t see so good in the dark ;)

  • Krimsen King

    you realize that reality does not demand some ‘equal time’ nonsense with regards to political partisanship. Sometimes, one party or the other is just ridiculously wrong… yes, sometimes reality itself has a political bias. Careful to clear your perceptions before believing a ‘side’.

  • Ben House

    Thanks to Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats in the House

  • Margo

    Except that the guy who made the video against islam that was blamed for the Benghazi debacle was jailed & is probably still there. Can anyone on your staff see if he has been freed since the memo about the video (the cover up of the cover up) has been made public?

  • Margo

    The Cape Cod Times today, 5/1/14, said that Obama weighed in or on Sterling’s punishment. “Silver was under enormous pressure to act swiftly & decisively. Silver heard calls for action from President Barack Obama, etc. Does Obama have the right to do this? Do we have freedom of speech in our own homes? Does Sterling’s girlfriend make Obama think she could’ve been his third daughter? Hasn’t Obama said racist things about his grandparents who raised him after his muslim father & stepdad didn’t want him. Would any man want his girlfriend sleeping with Magic Johnson?

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    As opposed to the frequently-distorted stats that left-wing sites you post use?

    The Daily Mail, an English site that’s generally non-partisan, being pretty much third-party journalism (minimum bias)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029615/Michelle-Obama-accused-spending-10m-public-money-vacations.html

    Here’s one from Judicial Watch because no one in the MSM is willing to hold the Obamas accountable for their irresponsible and extra-constitutional actions.
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/obamas-vacations/

    Here’s one more, and from your own side. HuffPost reported last summer that the Africa trip the Obamas took cost taxpayers roughly $100m.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/obama-africa-trip_n_3441510.html

    All of these trips only prove that the Obamas’ priorities are for goofing off (usually abroad) at our expense.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed.

  • Anonymous

    I really don’t feel admonished.

  • Anonymous

    The Daily Mail…omg you use them as a source? They’re like the Onion meets Fox News in the UK.

    I’d also like to point out I never said Obama didn’t spend more….I was just refuting the “37 vacations a year” bullcrap Deckard was spewing

  • Anonymous

    So wait….you blame Obama for there being no jobs now…but you blame Congress for no jobs then…………why not blame the current Republican congress?

    Apples to apples

  • Judy A. Johnson

    OUR so called president seems to HATE the GOOD OLE USA! He threw us under the bus again! OUTRAGEOUS!

  • Anonymous

    Well, you can’t say there is zero competition or innovation since no real world nation has ever actually been communist.

  • mirror

    Easy kickme22, Wiki – that is a great source!

  • Anonymous

    How about you show me something that contradicts that definition then? ;) Wikipedia is a great source that is only disallowed from use in academic research. You’d learn a thing or two if you actually read Wikipedia rather than just watching Fox News

  • mirror

    So much negativity spewing from you my friend. Did you sense sarcasm in my writing? Since you believe that Wikipedia is a reliable source (minus academia) I will henceforth refer to you as Wiki.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    You *do* realize he was exaggerating that figure, right?

    Also, why are you so against the Daily Mail? I’m figuring the only reason why you’d write them off as a credible source is because 1) The Onion is pure satire and creates wild headlines as jokes so you view the DM as such, and 2) it seems like you have a predisposed negative view on Fox News (or anything similar to that particular network) because of your Templar leanings. It’s become apparent to me that the DM leans politically similar to BBC News and if you’re slamming credible third-party sources like those, you’re probably a more devoted follower of Obama than I previously thought.

  • Bill Tilghman

    You continue reading his stuff. The rest of us know it is all bull.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Absolutely, and we mean to have it.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    She’s a Templar initiate, waving the race card again every time someone says anything against Obama. I never really liked her in the first place, given how she over-dramatized everything on her talk show.

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    I bought the book in my first year up at college. Very eye-opening stuff and scarier still that it’s a real thing. It’s essentially a Templar paradise. Those in power exert authority over everyone else and give leniency only to their friends and loyal comrades. As long as you’re on board, you’ll be in the clear. It’s all an Orwellian nightmare when you step back and look at the whole picture.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Absolutely apples – the democrats had control of everything from the middle of Bush’s administration through the 2010 election. They also had practical control of Congress since before the Clinton administration. Clinton had more to do with the economic collapse than Bush did – democrats in the Congress and White House set up the situation that spawned all the banking hijinks that lead to the market situation that Bush was handed. Then 09/11/2001 created the upswing in federal spending to support the war. What Bush failed to do was keep an eye on the economy that was running on Clinton era policies – he merely continued them.

    Democrats are responsible for the economy – and Obama has had six years to fix it. So far he’s done nothing but whine and complain.

    By the way, only the House is Republican controlled – The Senate is still Democrat.
    Obama squandered democrats being in full control of the entire federal government (the two branches that run it – legislative and executive). He had two years to perform his promised miracles and failed to do so.

    He is a failure in every imaginable sense of the word.

  • Anonymous

    When the weather was snow , snow, and more snow, Michele Obama had to take a vacation to Florida, because of this bad weather she never once thought of the American’s who suffered emotionally, physically and financially due to the horrible weather they endured. Michele never had to shovel snow at the White House or scrape the ice from her windshield of any car, but we were supposed to feel sorry for her and think she deserved a vacation——-the ones who needed a vacation were the Americans who suffered because of the winter storms but they could not afford to do so. Michele is a self centered egotist who cares for no one but herself.

  • Watch it

    You have that moron pegged.

  • Watch it

    He never had common sense. He is Ithaca’s village idiot, and a boil on the ars of humanity.

  • Watch it

    He’s right, you’re wrong as usual.

  • Anonymous

    Take a look at this site before you even try to say that the Daily Mail is in any way credible: http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/ (the site lists every Daily Mail article on cancer…some wonderful ones include “apples prevent cancer” , “aspirin prevents cancer” , “aspirin causes cancer”

    Also for fox news: http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fox_news_lie_machine_i_fact_checked_sean_hannity_on_obamacare/

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-airs-seriously-misleading-obamacare-graphic/

    And last: http://gawker.com/5814309/jon-stewart-reads-off-laundry-list-of-false-statements-by-lying-dynasty-fox-news

    (on this last one…if you get around his snarky attitude…everything he is saying is true….I remember seeing claims about “death panels” and other crap on fox news…..and they were never in the bill )

  • Anonymous

    Sigh…please provide ANY evidence contradicting what was stated on wikipedia and I will “repent”…..the problem is you can’t

    How about this….(I already know you are gonna say the Encyclopedia Britannica is some sort of liberal propaganda, but whatever)

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/129104/communism

  • Anonymous

    You know…back in the 1800s everyone “knew” that blacks were stupid and unable to live outside of slavery

    How about you do some research and come back when you do

  • Anonymous

    Actually the banking collapse was a result of controls instituted by FDR being repealed under Reagan. Those controls prevents banks from the slew of behaviors that resulted in our banking collapse.

    And may I ask…how come the current Republicans in the House aren’t saving everything and proposing bills to stop all the “evil anti american” stuff the Dems are doing?

    So far the republicans have only managed to shut down government for two weeks. (And honestly, both parties are composed of lying corporate shills)

  • mirror

    That is a fine definition of communism as is the source. Lets be fair, you understand what is meant when someone discusses communism. You know the intent and meaning in today’s society. Either you are playing the part or not well informed. I will refrain from saying ignorant, because I believe the latter is not true.

  • mirror

    Regardless if you do not agree with me, can I please continue to call you Wiki? That name has a lovely ring to it!

  • Anonymous

    Then stop using it as a buzzword. The USSR was a fascist dictatorship. Also

    “Barack Hussein Obama is anti-American because he is a hard core Communist!”

    How has Obama ever shown himself to be Communist with regards to either the correct definition or the warped definition being used here. He has never made any statement implying he wanted Stalinistic levels of power nor has he gone beyond the Constitutional bounds of his presidency. He has never declared war, he hasn’t tried to nationalize businesses etc. Any actions like that (for instance GM) were a result of Congress.

    Also: “His mother sent him to live with his grandparents because his step-father Lolo Soetoro was too pro-American”

    This is another baseless claim, nowhere is there any sort of record of this being true.

    The parent of this thread posted a giant schpeal of absolute crap that is based on nothing remotely representing reality.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, that name implies I’m actually getting all my claims from a (fairly) reputable source :D

    So sure

  • mirror

    I never used it as a buzz word, SPY used it. My problem is with the current commander in chief that is too far to the left, but I did not state he was a communist. Our politicians as a whole are self serving and corrupt, but here are a few exceptions that have good moral character and integrity. Please let me know if your would classify BHO as having integrity. You can use Wiki to look up the definition of integrity =)

  • Jon Johnston

    Because we tend to hear more about scientific advances, we tend to remember intellectual freedom while forgetting the less interesting, but more meaningful, freedom to do things.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Half right – the rules instituted by the democrats during the Clinton administration made it possible for crooked wall street bankers to create the derivatives market which in turn led to the sub prime mortgage market that imploded and destroyed the housing market which ballooned due to the policies of the Clinton administration. It is a matter of history at this point, and to try to leave it in Bush’s lap is simplistic and incorrect.

    The shutdown was engineered by democrats and this administration creating a crisis in government borrowing just to maintain the credit rating of the United States federal government. The whole thing is a power play being foisted upon the opposition party by the one in majority as an act of revenge for losing control of Congress in 2010. This so called shutdown was created by the majority party – democrats – not doing anything to control spending and refusing to respond to the situation that spending created. The shutdown is therefore the responsibility of the democrats in control of the government, unless of course you can tell me how the minority party was able to bring the government to a screeching halt. That is as unlikely as the creation of an anti-gravity element. It simply isn’t possible for the republican house to force the federal government into cessation of activity. They don’t have the political power to make that happen.

    The democrats have done a masterful job of creating mythology in this case, but saying something a million times does not make it a fact or the truth.

  • Bill Tilghman

    We are not talking about former presidents, this conversation is about the current administration.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Get back on the topic. You need to figure out which century we live in and what is pertinent to that time period. This isn’t the 1800′s and back then the United States government was engaged in acts of genocide against my ancestors. That does not mean they are guilty of doing it now.

    Andrew Jackson force marched all the native americans in the South Eastern United States to Indian Territory, and during that atrocity millions of people died, among them many I have blood relations to. Yet, my grandfather, father, mother and myself all served in the US Army during WW II, Korea, and the Vietnam wars. All enlisted to serve our country without any thoughts about our relatives being massacred by people wearing the uniform of the Army during the 1800′s. That is because we are able to get past the acts of people who are long time dead, and we don’t expect you white people to pay us anything. We don’t want your white guilt dividend.

    My family and other people I know don’t hold you or anyone else responsible for the racism of yesterday. If you think that it ended in the 1800′s, you are mistaken. I’ve had enough of it in my lifetime and it is long past the time when we should focus on the past. Only losers who can’t live in the present and don’t have the will and strength of character to become the best person they can resort to holding the present day hostage with acts of the past.

  • Anonymous

    Wait….so you’re saying the Republicans DIDN’T cause the government shutdown?

    “From October 1 through 16, 2013, the United States federal government entered a shutdown and curtailed most routine operations after Congress failed to enact legislation appropriating funds for fiscal year 2014, or a continuing resolution for the interim authorization of appropriations for fiscal year 2014.”

    Due to the Republicans refusing to vote in a spending bill they didn’t agree with (because it didn’t cut Medicare/Medicaid)

    (Also, my person opinion….but you’d think the idiots in power (dems and republicans) would cut the military a bit considering our military spending is just under half of the entire world’s)

  • Anonymous

    I don’t classify any politician as having integrity or moral character (….I mean look at the Tea Party people who got voted in….they campaigned on individual rights etc etc….they got in….all they’ve done so far was shut down government for a couple weeks) =)

    My goal is just to cut through all the idiocy being spewed on this site……Obama may not be the most wonderful person ever…but neither is he a Communist Foreign Islamic Kenyan America Hating Black Power Monster like literally *every* *single* *person* on this site seems to keep repeating over and over and over (if you’re familiar with the term “circle-jerking” ….that is the exact description of the comments here)

    (also…you actually seem reasonable so kudos to you)

  • Anonymous

    Jesus….I was using hyperbole to point out how stupid your comment was “yeah…we just know it is wrong…we didn’t do any research of any kind but we know….”

    Glenn Beck has indoctrinated you *so* much that you have taken *hyperbole* as some sort of white guilt *thing* and then wrote 3 paragraphs on that subject (which still doesn’t address how stupid your original “The rest of us know it is all bull.” statement)

    Btw, want to explain how you just “know” it is bull without any research? (or are you gonna start a rant on how Glenn isn’t indoctrinating you…..)

  • Bill Tilghman

    Kick yourself. You were just being a troll, like a lot of other liberal trolls who come here to troll. Lying about it does not change what you are doing here, and no one here owes you any sort of obligation so get over the demanding and spinning.

    You need to learn what hyperbole is. You have no idea about it or how to use it. There are some areas where you should not go unless you are prepared to deal with the answers you get.

    You really should stop the personal attacks if you can’t handle the blowback.

  • Bill Tilghman

    I am saying the democrats laid out the entire situation that led to it, and they manipulated the opposing side to make a choice between betraying their supporters in the general population in order to accede to the demands of the Obama administration or be blamed by the spin masters for the cuts that this administration imposed. You are aware that the Obama administration directed the cuts to do the most harm to the people of the US, aren’t you? They constructed a trap for the republicans, and made it so they were damned either way. That is what caused the shutdown. The spending bill you allude to had a lot more to it than not cutting entitlement programs. Are you always this intellectually dishonest in every discussion?

    General across the board spending cuts are what is needed. Democrats think they can tax their way out of the overspending mess they have created. They refused to make any meaningful spending cuts – cutting the spending increases does not equal spending cuts, but to democrats that is what they mean when they talk about cuts. They haven’t got a clue and all of us who pay taxes are left to clean up the mess. This has gone one for far too long.

    The only legitimate spending the federal government does – that is the only spending supported by the text of the Constitution – is defense spending. The world has come to rely on the US as the muscle that is used to keep rogue operators from dominating the planet. Who else would you prefer wield the defense of democracy in the world?

  • Anonymous

    I agree on the only legitimate spending (based off an extremely restricted interpretation of the necessary and proper clause) is defense spending…but something is extremely wrong when we spend more than the rest of the world combined on our military. The US didn’t have a standing army of this size until after World War 2.

    Both Democrats and Republicans are focusing all their efforts on making tiny cuts to various (widely used and popular) programs like Medicaid and Social Security instead of cutting our single largest unnecessary expense. The US does *not* need bases in almost every nation on the planet. We don’t need to spend a total of 1 trillion dollars on a fighter (the F-35) that is *EXTREMELY* over budget, and that isn’t meeting any of the operational goals set for it.

    What we need is increases in spending to science programs and other social programs (considering the US is falling extremely behind in education, healthcare, science, etc, etc, etc)

    Yes the Dems put the Republicans in a hard place. They gave the option of: 1. be idiots and try to get (rather inconsequential…but still painful) cuts to nationwide popular programs….(which still didn’t occur) and shut down the government

    or 2. concede on this point since the Republicans should have known they had no leverage

  • Anonymous

    Troll != hyperbole

    Hyperbole

    Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

    I suggest you brush up on your definitions. Also, I only personally attacked you after you continued to exhibit idiocy and refused to address any of my points.

    Also, you still haven’t explained how you “know it is bull” without research…would you mind getting to that? Or are you having too much fun being off topic

  • Bill Tilghman

    “The US didn’t have a standing army of this size until after World War 2.”

    Absolutely incorrect. The US has had standing armies larger than the current level during and after WW II. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Your judgments on what the US defense needs are have no basis in fact. You have no real knowledge to serve as a foundation for your OPINIONS. You need to learn to separate your opinions from fact, because your opinions are not remotely close to reality.

  • Bill Tilghman

    You were not using hyperbole, you were being a retarded jackass. Using your stupidity to justify attacking someone else is very low brow. Again the image of you remains the same.

  • Jenn

    all your president thinks or rather cares about is himself and planned parenthood…he doesn’t care about you or anybody else…so “YES”…I do blame obummer for there being no jobs now and so do a whole lot of other smart people..

  • Todd A Scheller

    What about the gibberish that exudes from your fingers Victor?
    Remember he crimes of OWS?
    Four separate Arson events, numerous assaults, four drug dealing arrests, murder, 13 reported rapes, 4 suicides or drug overdoses, plus multiple acts of vandalism and public disturbance. Yes, Victor, we remember OWS, do you?
    The bill to fund the MILITARY is oppression how, Victor? National Defense Authorization Act=NDAA. Or are you going to FALSELY claim that it allows for US citizens to be held again?

  • Todd A Scheller

    Victor, the same could be said about you too, OWS was full of Criminals, here is a nicely produced list of reports of crimes at OWS events.
    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490

    Want to keep this argument going, or do you want to cease being dumber than a fifth grader?

  • Todd A Scheller

    Brutally crushed?
    The protest in Tiananaman square were brutally crushed, or maybe you for get the Chinese using T-72 tanks to stop that one.

  • Todd A Scheller

    How about your many displays of ignorance Victor, shall I list them all again?
    So was calling my work and trying to get me fired not a sleazy move done by one Victor Scott Tiffany? Oh, wait that is YOU.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Progressive Shahid Buttar is the best you have got?

  • Todd A Scheller

    The same could be said of you Victor, kind of like when you lacked an education and tried to call my work and suggest that I was committing criminal activity on Disqus by replying to you.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Care to provide a quote from me on any of those? If you can’t you are a liar.

  • Todd A Scheller

    So she can go to your site full of lies? How does that help the situation out Victor?

  • Todd A Scheller

    Because when you make money not equal speech it its not more free, contradict yourself much Victor?

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    You gotta take what Sean Hannity says with a grain of salt in the first place since it’s kind of obvious some of the stuff he says tends to be a little exaggerated or off in some way or another (also, he doesn’t represent Fox News as a whole, so that isn’t fair to slam an entire network over one on-air personality), thus the journalist I tend to go with on FNC is Megyn Kelly (who, for the record, would’ve made a helluva better choice for moderator during the 2012 Town Hall Presidential Debate than Candy Crowley; what a joke).

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    I don’t recall ever using “Communist” to label Obama on any post I’ve made on this comment page. I’ve only pointed out that Communism has been proven to fail time and again in countries that used it.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously….standing army = army while not at war.

    We never had a standing army of this size until after WW2…in fact you even freaking agree with me

    “The US has had standing armies larger than the current level during and ***after WW II***.”

    You seriously need to learn to read what you are saying

  • Anonymous

    Explain how my use of hyperbole did not fit the definition

    And still waiting on your response on how you “know”

    Mind getting over your self righteous act and getting around to the original question, or are you *still* too busy with baseless personal attacks coming from your warped view of my past several comments

  • Anonymous

    No one knows what anyone else is thinking and I very very much doubt Obama’s thoughts days and night are entirely about himself and Planned Parenthood (which is not a government entity)

    Based off your comment I could say “Jenn only thinks about how Obama thinks about himself and how Obama thinks about Planned Parenthood”

    Very likely untrue.

    Give any sort of evidence for any statement you make regarding Obama’s motives and maybe you have a chance. But baseless blanket statements are the hallmark of stupidity

  • Anonymous

    Quote of what….. “quote from me” I haven’t said anything related to you, unless you mean sources for my statements

    With regards to Obama, first provide proof for him being a Communist Foreign Islamic Kenyan America Hating Black Power Monster and then I will rebut you

    With regards to the Tea Party …. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/16/what-has-the-tea-party-accomplished/

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/05/has-the-tea-party-done-anything-for-the-gop/57401/

    With regards to circle jerking

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=circlejerk

  • Anonymous

    I admit Megyn Kelly is a bit less horrible, but it is still detestable that a network apparently priding itself on being “fair and balanced” allows various bald faced lies like the “death panel” baloney to be spewed without reprimanding the host, or issuing a statement to the contrary. Having people like that on their network tarnishes their reputation (and that is primarily why the internet almost universally hates Fox)

  • Jenn

    you have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine…obummer is the one who asked God to bless planned parenthood…so yes…I say that obummer only thinks about himself and planned parenthood…I AM NOT STUPID..the United States SUCKS big time and apparently you are on the side of obummer…

  • mirror

    Sorry SPY, It was not you that went off about communism. Looking back through the posts it was Jeremy. My mistake, I apologize.

  • Todd A Scheller

    So Obama could not turn it around in FIVE years? It only took Reagan three years to turn around a recession that was far worse by most measures.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Once again since you are slow, QUOTE me referring to Obama as begin any of those. What is hard to under stand about that.

    My goal is just to cut through all the idiocy being spewed on this site……Obama may not be the most wonderful person ever…but neither is he a Communist Foreign Islamic Kenyan America Hating Black Power Monster like literally *every* *single* *person* on this site seems to keep repeating over and over and over (if you’re familiar with the term “circle-jerking” ….that is the exact description of the comments here)

    Since I am a *SINGLE* *PERSON*, prove your assertion or drop the lie. Struggling with logic are you? If you cannot prove GENERALIZED statements maybe you should not make them. I.E. Hasty Generalization Fallacy.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Can you provide number that prove we spend more than the rest of the World combined on defense?

    In 2012, there was $1.756 TRILLION spent on military world wide.

    The US accounted for 39.0% of that, or $684.84 BILLION. Maybe in your Common Core classes they did not teach you that for the US to spend more than the REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED, it actually has to spend 50%+$.01.

    Should we spend $1 Trillion on replacing and repairing planes that China has already fielded planes to defeat (the F-16D, F-15E, and F-18E/F). The JSF program has yet to reach $500 BILLION, and of that we can field a third of the number of planes that would still be able to take out all the rest of our existing planes, and most of those in the world COMBINED.

    We do need to improve our education system, but throwing money at it is not the answer. Carter tried this. The Department of Education’s Budget for 2013 was $3.5 TRILLION for what improvements? How are those test scores coming?

    There is an easy answer to all of this how about Obama propose a budget even the House of Congress that is controlled by his party can pass, its called the SENATE which has passed a grand total of TWO budgets on time since Obama took office, and that was in 2008 and 2009. His 2012 and 2013 budgets got ZERO votes, ZERO, in the Senate.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Iraq had the Russian T-72, how many M1A1 Abrams Tanks were they able to kill with them in Desert Storm? ZERO, all were lost to either friendly fire indents or driver error. They were able to take a few out in infantry ambushes in 2003, but again most of them were destroyed after losing mobility by other ABRAMS.
    The JSF (F-35 Lightning II) total program costs have not even reached $500 BILLION yet. If the F-35 preforms marginally even close to the Abrams, it will be worth the investment.
    There were 8,267,958 soldiers in the Army in 1945, 3,380,817 sailors in the Navy the same year, 474,680 Marines, and 85,783 Coasties. Today there are 1,369,532 ACTIVE DUTY PERSONNEL total, with another 850,880 in reserves, the Army was nearly four times that in WWII.
    We do need to fix education, there is no argument there, but is throwing $3.5 TRILLION a year at it for ZERO outcome the answer?
    If you look at the chart provided, US Personnel and spending has decreased steadily since KOREA, not WWII.
    Oh, if you only knew what you don’t know about what you chose to write about.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Seriously, you need to understand the definition of standing army. Because you have it all wrong.

    A standing army is a permanent, often professional, army. It is composed of full-time soldiers (who may be either career soldiers or conscripts) and is not disbanded during times of peace.

    ~Wikipedia

    standing army n.
    A permanent army maintained in time of peace and war.

    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

    stand′ing ar′my n.
    a permanently organized military force maintained by a nation.
    [1595–1605]

    Random House Kernerman Webster’s College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

    standing army – A permanent army maintained in time of peace and war.

    See also related terms for maintained.

    Farlex Trivia Dictionary. © 2012 Farlex, Inc. All rights reserved.

    Do you need more sources to prove you wrong?

  • Anonymous

    I suggest you read this from your very own fox news

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/04/03/f-35-fighters-plagued-with-delays-cost-overruns-federal-report-says/

    The F-35 is an extreme waste of money, and I’d also like to point out that yes the US had way more troops during WW2….because we were *at war*. Congress has never declared war since WWII. And I’d also like to point out China has more personnel than the US by a long shot, and still spend billions of dollars less.

    And last….I’d like to point out that the T-72 was a 30 year old piece of crap soviet tank vs modern tanks. Your example is like saying an F-16 is the most amazeballs thing ever because it can kill a p-51 mustang without breaking a sweat.

    Britain and other countries have tanks on par with the Abrams (like the Challenger 2) without spending anywhere near the 500 billion of the USA

  • Anonymous

    I’m not exactly sure turning around a recession by removing tons of restraints meant to protect consumers is exactly a good thing….and I am honestly having trouble finding what my comment was (not being snarky, there is just a bunch of comments in this thread) could you quote whatever it was I said

  • Anonymous

    Sigh, that was a slight exaggeration……you apparently don’t understand that concept

  • Anonymous

    The more you say “obummer” the more you make the impression of being an idiot

    Also, he apparently thinks about Planned parenthood all the time because of a one off comment

    To me it looks like you are an absolute idiot because you can’t spell Obama

    This isn’t true (well…I think it might be…..) just like him thinking only about 2 things isn’t

  • Todd A Scheller

    If you cannot support that which you write, don’t write it. Apparently you don’t understand that even simpler concept.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Glass-Steagall was repealed under CLINTON, not REAGAN, what other lies do you have for us?

  • Todd A Scheller

    Okay, that is your OPINION, but what restraints did Reagan remove? Care to list them?

    Was it not William Jefferson Clinton that removed Glass-Stegeall in 1999?

    What Reagan really did:

    - Cut the top marginal tax rate from 70% to 28%, today 39.6%

    - Cut the top corporate tax rate from 48% to 34%, today 35%

    - Reduced the money supply, today QE, QE2, and QE∞ have INCREASED the money supply (How did that work out for Wiemar Germany?)

    - Cut NIXON (Not FDR) era price controls.

    - Removed controls on Oil and Gas (Ever hear of the ’80′s oil boom?)

    - Increased barriers to imports (allowing more US products to be sold. I.E. a VER was reached with Japan on the number of cars that could be imported to the US).

    Reagan’s policies had an immediate effect on the unemployment rate, raising it to its highest ever during a recession, 10.8%, where it remained for a year. Do you remember Obama’s promise on what the Stimulus would do to unemployment? It would not go over 8%, and it would be to 5% by June 2013. Unemployment was over 8% for 43 months under Obama, yet only over 8% for 39 months total from 1933- 2008.
    What other lies would you like to try out on us?

    kickme22 Jenn • 7 days ago

    Until the end of his presidency in 2008 where all his policies ended up in the Recession we still have today

    Here is a little Disqus lesson for you, if you hold the pointer of your mouse over your name above my comment that you are replying too, it gives you the first couple of words of your comment that I am replying too.

  • Todd A Scheller

    The more you claim that people are using the written word to SAY something, you prove to be the real idiot. You SAY things with SPOKEN words, I.E. your mouth.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Just curious if you know how much the US spent to develop a pen that would right in space? Yes, and INK PEN that writes in space.

    Bic Crystal Stick: $5.99 for 50 at Staple, or $0.0456 per pen

    Fisher Space Pen: Paul C. Fisher spent $1 MILLION to develop a pen that he sold 400 to NASA for $2.95 a piece in 1967 or $1,180.

    If you go into a fight, you take the best weapon possible. The F-35 is based on MODERN technology. The F-16 is based on late 1960′s to early 1970′s tech (with recent upgrades). The F-15 is based on the same tech as the F-16 (with recent upgrades, it will also play missing a wing, ask Israel). The F-18 is based on mid-late 1970′s tech (with recent upgrades).

    The Chengdu J-20 is based on Modern Technology, would you take a F-16, F-15, or F-18 against it, would you send your own child in one against it? How about the Sukhoi PAK FA T-50? 36 years separate the introduction of the F-16 (1978) and P-51 (1942). Only SEVEN years separeate the introduction of the T-72 (1973) and the M1A1 (1980). Want to rethink your analogy? Man are you stupid when it comes to military weapons systems.

    The Russians T-90 was not exported until 2001, and Iraq could not buy them or import them if they did. India has 690 of them,

    Chuck Yeager was the first pilot to kill a jet fighter (an Me-262), with a P-51 MUSTANG.

    What more do you want to get wrong?

    M1A2 Abrams:
    Top Speed: 42 MPH
    Gun: 120 mm
    Range of Gun: 1.25 miles
    Stabilized Gun: Yes
    Cost per unit: US$6.21 million(FY99)*9000=$55.8 TRILLION total project cost
    Challenger 2:
    Top Speed: 37 mph
    Gun: 120 mm
    Range of gun: 1.25 miles
    Stabilized Gun: Yes
    Cost per unit: US$7.14 million (2011)*446=$3.1 Billion total project cost
    Leopard 2:
    Top Speed: 45 mph
    Gun: 120 mm
    Range of Gun: 1.25 miles
    Stabilized Gun: Yes
    Cost per Unit: US$5.74 million (2007)*2215= $12.7 TRILLION total project cost
    The Total project cost for the F-35 is projected to be US$1.0165 trillion over 55 years. 1/55 the cost of the M1 Abrams variants to date. You really are not that smart.

  • Bill Tilghman

    What is your problem? You obviously don’t know spit about the military and apparently you don’t believe in the Constitution which has language in it that reads “provide for the common defense…”

    How on earth do you propose to do that without having trained forces that can do battle when required – and prevail? Do you think we can just pass out the rifles and grenades and tell young people to go out and defeat the enemy? Seriously, you people haven’t got any idea what the military is for much less how to use it. Sometimes the fact you are in a readiness posture is enough to keep the leaders of enemy regimes from doing harm to this country. It has in fact kept acts of war off our territory many years – without a standing force of arms there is no way we would have been able to have a history spanning 238 years.

    You should study history, there is a lot of information in it you seem to be lacking.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently you take everything literally….(just letting you know…I’m done with this thread since you are the only person left replying…and you are apparently stupid)

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    You apparently aren’t good at definitions

    https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+say&oq=definition+of+say&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2255j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

  • Anonymous

    …..I said that we have spent way way too much on our military….you just highlighted my exact point. We have spent 55.8 trillion dollars on 9000 tanks that have seen virtually no service. We are slated to spend over 1 trillion just on the development and basic upkeep of some new jets, we have one of the largest standing armies in the world…….

    Thanks again for reinforcing my argument ;)

    Also, I’m done replying to all the threads you’re in because 1, you are extremely abrasive and 2, you appear to be pretty stupid (and have no reading comprehension)

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say no standing army….i said cut the army….yes we need to provide for our common defense…but the constitution does not say we need to provide for the common defense of the majority of the world too

    Learn to read…..please

    Also, what has kept war out of our country is that 1. our neighbors are fairly stable. 2. we have oceans on both sides. and 3. our populace is armed and thus an invasion would be extremely costly (and our nation is huge and would be insanely difficult to secure)

    oh and we have nukes.

    Take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_defense_spending_1910_to_2007.png

    I think you’re the one who hasn’t had a very good background in history

  • Jenn

    thank you! :)

  • Todd A Scheller

    Once again your OPINION means what? We spend less on our MILITARY than we do SOCIAL PROGRAMS. The MILITARY allows for the SOCIAL PROGRAMS.

    Virtually no service? Are you trying hard to be stupid?
    Desert Shield/ Storm August 7,1990-April 11, 1991 (8 months, 5 days).
    Iraq War- March 20, 2003- December 18, 2011 (8 years, 8 months, 29 days)
    Afghanistan- October 7, 2001- Today (Projected to end December 3, 2014)[13 years, 2 months, 25 days]

    That is 22 YEARS, 7 MONTHS, 29 DAYS of service.

    Hint: WWI (2 years, 6 months, 9 days), WWII (3 years, 8 months, 27 days), Korea (3 years, 1 month and 2 days), and Vietnam (8 years, 1 month, 21 days) only account for 16 YEARS, 11 MONTHS, 29 DAYS COMBINED. That means the M1A1 has been in service in three wars more than the FOUR largest wars fought by this country. So I am not sure where you are getting your made up facts from .

    How am I reinforcing your argument when it is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong to begin with? You try to be dumber that Populist democrat (AKA Victor Scott Tiffany), and like him you have no idea what you don’t know.

    Your facts are wrong, and I am the one that appears stupid? How is that working out for you?

  • Todd A Scheller

    Wikiopedia? A site that sucks so much that COLLEGES will not allow you to use it? Really? That is all you have?

    Try and use the parts that apply to you assertion that Reagan repealed FDR’s legislation.

    10 Years Later, Looking at Repeal of Glass-Steagall this NYT article was published NOVEMBER 12, 2009, 20 years, 9 months, 24 days after Reagan left office. So again how did he REPEAL FDR’s Legislation when CLINTON was President in 1999?

    Come on prove your assertion or give up like the fool we already know you are.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Where is WRITTEN words coverd by your definition? You apparently can’t read your own definitions, so let me break it down for you in words you can understand.

    Your definition you linked to:

    say sā/ verb
    1. utter words so as to convey information, an opinion, a feeling or intention, or an instruction.
    ““Thank you,” he said”
    synonyms:speak, utter, voice, pronounce, give voice to, vocalize
    2. assume something in order to work out what its consequences would be; make a hypothesis.
    “let’s say we pay five thousand dollars in the first year”
    synonyms: suppose, assume, imagine, presume, hypothesize, postulate, posit
    exclamation
    NORTH AMERICAN informal

    1. used to express surprise or to draw attention to a remark or question.
    “say, did you notice any blood?”
    noun
    1. an opportunity for stating one’s opinion or feelings.
    “the voters are entitled to have their say on the treaty”
    synonyms:chance to speak, turn to speak, opinion, view, voice;

    All the words that I bolded for you mean to use ones MOUTH to make a sound. Not one of the words in your definition means to WRITE.
    Care to try again, you idiot? Do you hate to be stupid as much as you hate to be wrong?

  • Todd A Scheller

    Unlike you I write what I mean, not leave it to interpretation of others. Maybe you should try that more next time, then we cannot be confused by your ignorance.
    Or just support that which you write with truth, and then you have no problem.

  • Todd A Scheller

    What part of the MILITARY is 1/12th of its largest levels do you not get?

    Maybe you should learn to read.

    The British struggled how much to invade us in 1812? How about Al-Qaeda in 2001?

    You have no idea what you are writing about, give it up Junior. Until you have actually served (which Bill and I both did) you can’t even imagine how stupid you are making yourself look.

    Obama’s 2013 Budget broken down by program:
    Social Security, Unemployment, Labor: 34%

    Medicare & Health: 24%
    Military: 18%
    Interest on debt: 7%
    Food and Agriculture: 4%
    Veterans Benefits: 4%
    Transportation: 2%
    Education: 2%
    Housing & Community: 2%
    International Affairs: 1%
    Energy and Environment: 1%
    Science: 1%
    Government: 1%
    So if we put people back to work, we increase the tax base, which means MORE REVENUE (that is more money to spend in case, like everything else, you are not getting it). That reduces the LARGEST chunk of this spending, which the military is only the THIRD largest item.
    I proved my point without having to use Wikipedia, why can’t you?

  • Todd A Scheller

    You seriously need to learn that people that WRITE are not saying anything.
    Or maybe you just need to learn to write better.

  • Bill Tilghman

    He is another one of those experts – ex meaning has been, and spurt being a drip under pressure. Oh look, he wikileaked all over this site… how precious.

    We have a unique appreciation for what the military is about – blood loss, sweat, losing friends and having the honor to be allowed to serve gives that to us. I am always surprised at people like this guy who think the military is unnecessary because they have guns and there are no tanks in the streets. Sometimes – although we both know they can’t understand this – the strength we have is given to us for the purpose of taking care of the weak and protecting them from the evil that roams the less than free parts of this world.

    Military haters are ignorant creatures.

  • Todd A Scheller

    So far this military ex-spurt has gotten absolutely NOTHING right.

  • Anonymous

    How about this for you (and I never specifically mentioned Glass-Steagall, you did)

    http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/418700?uid=3739960&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103752955261

    And wikipedia is only not allowed in colleges due to the ability of anyone to edit it, otherwise it is an extremely reliable resource.

    (And I am done in this thread, you are extremely biased and “set in your ways” and the “we” you speak of is just you since no one else I have commented on is still replying to me since they had no retorts to my facts.)

  • Anonymous

    I suggest you learn to read: 1. an opportunity for stating one’s opinion or feelings.”the voters are entitled to have their say on the treaty”

    Note, the words you bolded were for the majority *synonyms*. And I am done with this thread you are insanely stupid and are being extremely obtuse

    :-)

  • Anonymous

    Again, done with this thread…you are being deliberately obtuse and it makes you come off as even less intelligent than the absolute dregs of intelligence you actually possess.

  • Anonymous

    ….Our military has done almost nothing other than proxy wars against the “evil of communism” since World War II….you apparently have no understanding that the US hasn’t been protecting the weak. We invade small countries, institute puppet dictators, and all around have made the world hate us while wasting trillions on an unneccessarily large military. I suggest you actually educate yourself rather than spewing the crap that Scheller is

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you need to learn not to take everything literally….I’m guessing in real life you walk up to people and start yelling at them when they say that a writer said something in the paper?

    Please just stop being so obtuse

  • Anonymous

    Replying to your other comment (it had a “waiting for moderation” and wouldn’t let me reply to it)

    What does geographical area or population have to with it…we spend over 10 times as much on our military as the next highest country in the world. The reason spending was so high was due to the Cold War….the Cold War ended…why are we still spending as if we are gearing up for WWIII with Russia (Russia is currently a shell that would be destroyed in any conventional war). If anything our spending should drop to either pre WWII levels or the levels immediately following WWII (in the period before the Cold War)

  • Bill Tilghman

    I served in the military, and it is apparent that you have not, therefore you lack the understanding I have regarding what it does and what our needs are. You have a good indoctrination from some liberal source of disinformation, and you are not empowered to suggest anything to me on this subject as you lack sufficient experience and knowledge to do so.

    Have a nice.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Your redefinition ploy is amusing but not accurate. Obviously you are a liberal, you argue like one and take emotion based positions instead of dealing with facts and logic. The democrats engineered the shutdown via political wrangling, and they own it. It is liberals like you and the media that keep repeating this lie. Those of us who know better see right through this load of horse manure.

  • Bill Tilghman

    You tell me what geographical area or population has to do with it – you brought your erroneous data into this conversation. The US isn’t the largest in either category, but the world looks to us to lead when the stuff hits the fan. We have treaty obligations that span the globe, and whenever anyone gets in trouble they come to us for help. They know, unlike you, that we will help any nation that is friendly to us and is not so to our enemies. They know we will help, and if we destroy things in the process we will rebuild what we destroyed. Even our enemies in WW II benefited from our kindness after the war as we spent billions rebuilding infrastructure, industry and governments in Japan, Germany, and Italy. Those nations are our friends because we don’t occupy and hold territory after the rebuilding is over. We not only aid the governments but the people living in those countries know that the US is there as a benefactor, and not a conqueror.

    No matter how you want to twist it, the US is the best nation on earth in the history of civilization.

    You should be proud of that instead of trying to tear it down, but for some reason we have folks like you who really hate what they think America is, however that opinion is formed out of ignorance and disinformation. That is the kind of stuff our liberal education institutions are fond of disseminating, despite the truth that is apparent.

  • Bill Tilghman

    The post soviet tanks are merely refits of the old junk, everyone knows that they are no match for the M1A1. As far as the other tanks go, we will never know about whether they are a match for the Abrams since they are owned exclusively by our allies.

    You really don’t know what you are talking about.

    The Chinese army is armed and equipped with sub-standard gear, and they are not given nearly the care and welfare treatment we give our troops – and our troops deserve even more than they receive. Our military is all volunteer and has been since the late 1970′s. China and Russia use conscripts and they have no Veteran’s Administration to tend to those who serve and need medical care. We who have served know the differences between how America treats its veterans versus those of the communist nations.

    You should avoid discussions involving the military – you don’t know what you are talking about.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Your liberal tactic of turning the truth inside out to suit you does not work. Only people like you think that works or impresses.

    You are intellectually challenged if you think we want to return to the 1930 military – we know how that turns out, and it ends up killing lots of people who are poorly trained, have weak weapons if they have them at all, and they get ground up by evil governments who keep developing weaponry to gain strategic advantage while people like you who don’t fight our wars go to sleep thinking we spend too much on the military.

    Your opinions are uneducated and poorly formed.

  • Bill Tilghman

    His lies are old but he tells them pretty good… (To paraphrase the Blind man character in the movie “U Turn”).

    You are right about him – he is a contrarian like Victor, funny how I was thinking the same thing after the first few posts from this one. The only thing missing is the obscenity and screams of persecution – when he picked the fight in the first place! Absolutely and amazingly insane these two are.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Right on every point! This fool is one of the hardest headed ones I have seen for a while.

    I agree with you on the DofEd – that Carter era administrative boondoggle should be abolished – and the money it gets should be given to the states for their educational systems. Before we invest any more money on education we need to see the liberal bias purged from the system. There is far too much programming going on in the schools our children attend, and that should be eliminated by removing any administrator that espouses Common Core – for a start. That is my opinion.

    This fool really does not have any ideas other than the liberal junk he has been fed.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Actually you have proven that your opinions are the hallmark of stupidity. Any judgment from you is deficient and devoid of factual basis. You are so truth challenged that I would find it amazing if it were not so common among liberals like you.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Obama thinks what his wife tells him to.

  • Bill Tilghman

    That would be you who is in error – you are the one who contradicts himself.

    “The more you say “obummer”

    Those are YOUR words.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Oh, he dares to be stupid…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwupJD2LzD8

  • Bill Tilghman

    kickme22 SAYS, “I am insanely stupid and extremely obtuse”

    Thank you for clarifying that issue, captain obvious!

  • Bill Tilghman

    WOW – you got lost in your own comments and have to ask the opposition for help in finding what you yourself wrote?

    (facepalm)

  • Bill Tilghman

    Egal, wie viel Sie helfen Narren, wird er ein Narr zu bleiben.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Seldom have I found a more idiotic comment than this one you just made. Not only is it littered with spelling errors, and incorrect word choice, it has the added gift of poor grammar.

    If you are trying to communicate in English you should at least learn to use those most basic of language skills. Otherwise, you risk appearing a bit dull witted.

    Of course, as a risk taker, you have achieved admirably. There is a difference between an open mind and an empty head. You demonstrate the latter.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Reminds me of another libtard we know.

  • Todd A Scheller

    If Wikipedia were an extremely reliable source, colleges would allow it as a reference.

    Glass-Steagall regardless of who brought it up were the FDR BANK reforms (included in the New Deal), period end of discussion. And it was repealed by CLINTON, not REAGAN. So stop being an IDIOT.

    Next time you want to use an article make sure you link to one where YOU can read the entire article. Lets look at your fundamental problems from the FIRST page you were able to offer, then we will go from there with the rest of the article that YOU could not read, but I could.

    Problem:

    #1 Reagan was sworn in as President on January 20, 1981 after having won the 1980 Presidential Election the previous November. The article you linked too was from Autumn 1981. They were reviewing ONE Budget, not legislation that repealed ANYTHING.

    #2 Read the sub-title from your link: President Reagan’s success lies not in the size of the federal budget cuts but in that he has been able to make cuts at all. He has a long way to go before the New Deal is repealed or even derailed.” This really is not that surprising as Reagan came into office with Congress where Republicans controlled the Senate, and Democrats controlled the House. Yet neither house of Congress had enough party votes to override a veto at the time, so they had to COMPROMISE.

    #3 Reagan never tried to repeal SOCIAL SECURITY, the largest portion of the NEW DEAL.

    #4 The authors of the article are asking if Reagan will repeal the new deal or replay it, less than ONE year into his Presidency.

    The DOI for the article is 10.2307/418700. So next time you want to use a reference, preview it first, and make sure it says what you think it does. I also suggest you not use a reference that some one has better access to than you do. I have access to JSTOR and many other databases, so nice try fool.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Maybe you need to stop being so utterly STUPID and misinformed.
    In real life I deal with murders rapist and thieves on a daily basis. So far they prove to be smarter than you, and they are in prison.
    Please just stop being so IGNORANT, you really are not that acute.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Wait, a couple of days ago we spent more than ALL other countries combined according to you. You were wrong then, lets see how stupid you prove to be on this one.
    #1 US spent $612,500,000,000 in 2013.
    #2 China which spent $126,000,000,000.
    So in reality the US spent 4.964 times China, not 10 times.
    You are caught in yet another lie.
    #3 Russia spent $76,600,000,000 which makes the US spending 7.996 times as much.

    #4 Saudi Arabia spent $56,725,000,000 which makes the US spending 10.797 times.
    So I had to go to the country with the FOURTH largest military budget to make your statement true.
    Numbers taken from: http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp

    If only you were not so much of a fool and could write what your really mean. Please keep proving how utterly stupid and uninformed you really are.

  • Todd A Scheller

    So Iraq was a Communist country? Afghanistan? Beirut? Grenada?
    How about all the humanitarian missions by our military?
    How about you educate yourself so you don’t get your FACTS wrong there genius?
    Want to compare education credentials fool?

  • Todd A Scheller

    SAY is done with the MOUTH not The KEYBOARD you fool.

    say sā/
    verb

    1. utter words so as to convey information, an opinion, a feeling or intention, or an instruction.
    ““Thank you,” he said”

    synonyms: speak, utter, voice, pronounce, give voice to, vocalize More

    2. assume something in order to work out what its consequences would be; make a hypothesis.

    “let’s say we pay five thousand dollars in the first year”

    synonyms:suppose, assume, imagine, presume, hypothesize, postulate, positMore

    ut·ter1 [uht-er] Show IPA
    verb (used with object)

    1. to give audible expression to; speak or pronounce: unable toutter her feelings; Words were uttered in my hearing.

    2. to give forth (cries, notes, etc.) with the voice: to utter a sigh.

    3. Phonetics . to produce (speech sounds, speechlike sounds,syllables, words, etc.) audibly, with or without reference toformal language.

    4. to express (oneself or itself), especially in words.

    5. to give forth (a sound) otherwise than with the voice: The engine uttered a shriek.

    You, kickme22 are not smarter than a fifth grader. Maybe you should have stuck with not replying to me, you would look less foolish then.

  • Todd A Scheller

    An einem gewissen Punkt würden Sie denken, ein Narr würde verstehst, dass wenn er Diggs noch tiefer in das Loch auf ihn fallen.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Again why do you keep coming back to it with more lies? The one that lacks for intelligence is you, not me poor little liberal tool.
    Why is it I can find real sources for my arguments, and to disprove your assertions, and all you have is empty assertions and Wikipedia?

  • Todd A Scheller

    So reputable that you admit that not ONE University or College will allow student to use it, and high schools are going the same route these days.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Wrong, the founders felt that GOVERNMENT had not place in RELIGION.
    Jefferson, the President that wrote the “wall of separation” letter, attended church services every Sunday in the House of REPRESENTATIVES.
    The Ten Commandments are represented 11 times on the Supreme Court’s building.
    My God man, can you get ANYTHING right?

  • Todd A Scheller

    The USSR was a Communist Dictatorship. Which is just to the left of a Fascist dictatorship.

    What else would you like to get wrong.

    Maybe when he wrote the following in Dreams of my Father on page 101:

    To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling conventions. We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated.

    But this strategy alone couldn’t provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerant. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

    “The Marxist professors” do I really need to explain that one to you? If you answered that one yes, then I bet you have no idea who Fran Fanon is then. Neo-Colonialism? A term coined by the person that saw himself as Africa’s version of LENIN? He even uses Marx’s term for the owners of production. Wow, you really are uneducated.

  • Bill Tilghman

    There seems to be new crop of them every year. This guy is only one – there is another I’ve been trying to straighten out for the past week named Robert – another Bush bashing progressive fool who thinks Obama is his savior. They just don’t get it that this President is a pathological liar and he’s been lying to their faces since 2008 on the campaign trail.

    Maybe there is something in the water, or these people have some kind of disease – an epidemic of liberal progressive nonsense. They are everywhere, it seems.

  • Anonymous

    He was speaking about his homeland, Kenya not America.

  • Anonymous

    Soooooo Democrat

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry. Michelle more than made up for that. What was it, 64 million so far?