‘How dare this nation treat us this way’: Montel Williams delivers impassioned speech about the treatment of veterans

Marine Corps Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi has been holed up in a Mexican prison for an astounding 58 days following his arrest for weapons possession on March 31. Tahmorressi accidentally crossed the border at the San Ysidro checkpoint after taking a wrong turn. While several lawmakers have been working to secure Tahmooressi’s return, the Obama Administration has yet to comment.

Meanwhile, damning information continues to emerge about the negligence and suspicious book keeping at the VA medical facilities around the country. While President Obama claims to be “madder than hell,” heads have yet to roll for the gross incompetence.

Glenn has spoken at length about the troubling treatment of our returning service men and women, and during a Memorial Day picnic in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, television personality Montel Williams was overcome with emotion and became visibly choked up while delivering a speech addressing the ongoing VA scandal.

Williams, a 22-year veteran, will be joining Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program later this week to further discuss the VA, but below is a video of the speech:

“He’s exactly right. He is exactly right,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “The question is: How do we fix this.”

Glenn fears that between Afghanistan and Iraq, war has become somewhat of a chronic state of affairs over the last decade. As a result, we have failed to give both our active service members and veterans the attention they deserve.

“We don’t even know the war is going on,” Pat said. “It’s interesting because it’s not reported anymore… You don’t even know there is a war in Afghanistan.”

“We’re raising a group of people that [have] never known the United States out of war,” Glenn added. “If your kids are 13-years-old, they have never lived in an America that hasn’t been at war. Think of that. And it’s not like World War II, where it consumed us.”

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  • Anonymous

    I’ve read veteran cost estimates of one trillion dollars. As our soldiers come home, our veteran hospitals will be stressed. Correcting this will take a lot of money. That’s why I find it odd that the country doesn’t think they should be taxed more to pay for it. Two lengthy wars and a trillion dollars of veteran expense is the people’s responsibility.

  • Chris B

    The petition is a marketing gimic…but Glenn should sign up…the info they email is great, well it’s great material to discuss on your shows. The spin they put on things … wow! Not to mention its the best update on what the progressives are planning that I can get without having to search. I knew about the President’s pen and phone weeks before it hit the mainstream media because of their “look what we are about to do” announcement.

  • Bruce A. Frank

    Actually, there does not appear to be a money shortage in the VA. Their budget has been increased nearly 3 fold in the last 12 years. There is certainly plenty of money for bonuses.

    I find it ironic that you analyze the VA as going into a trillion dollar unfunded situation with such a small percentage of the population involved, but make no connection to the impossibility of funding Obamacare as Obama rapidly moves us to, as he promised in his speeches, a single payer system for all.

    It is also absurd for there to be a call by media and politicians to provide a system where veterans go to any doctor or hospital outside the VA, when doctors and hospitals are dropping out of the Obamacare system right and left. Doctors leaving because payment under ALL government medical programs do not pay enough to cover the cost of the doctor’s personnel that he is required to have to deal with those same government programs.

    My previous doctor, working by himself with a nurse assistant, had to maintain 7 additional personnel in his office to handle insurance and government paperwork. He finally discontinued accepting any patients using any payment to him from government programs or any insurance. He would provide all the receipts you needed to submit your request for reimbursement to the appropriate agency or company. He was able to cut his staff back to his nurse and a receptionist…so he lowered his prices.

  • Mike Barnes

    Sgt. Tahmooressi would have been out in 58 hours–if he’d been black.

  • John Fraizer

    The V.A. is posting a SURPLUS of money for the 5th year straight this year. Don’t talk to me about this being a money issue.

  • ItalianScallion

    Wake up America the socialist,despise us and since the sixties have led an assault on our Military NASA and most importantly our Constititution. We are under siege and a second Civil War is coming. Which side are you on . Its one of the reasons I no longer endorse the Republican Party , they helped let it happen.

  • ItalianScallion

    That is, SO, right.

  • Anonymous

    When one of the liberal trolls spins the V.A. disaster as being caused by “Republicans”, just remind them that the Barrack Husein Obama was the
    ‘ARCHITECT’ of ‘SEQUESTRATION’, which resulted in MASSIVE CUTS
    to the military. You might also mention his campaign speeches, in which he
    states that he WILL put a top priority in the treatment of our veterans.
    Then again, ‘You Can Keep Your Doctor!!! The man is a consumate LIAR.

  • Anonymous

    Good! The VA treats 230,000 patients a day, that’s 7 million treatments a month! Time Magazine reported that the complaint rate is 0.015%. That number isn’t perfect, but it does put some perspective on the magnitude of the operation and actually points to some success if they’re running a surplus.

  • Linda Arteman

    I wish every American could hear Montel’s words. There is a creeping war on Americans by our government, one little step at a time. This neglect of our veterans is the latest. How shameful that we, the people, have allowed our government to get so out of control. Our representatives in Washington should be fighting to stop this creeping assault on our rights. Our vets have given up so much for our freedom, and our government is attempting to end that freedom! Is this designed to dismantle our military? Just let them suffer and die?

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    Maybe you liberals should run the country better instead instead of paying millions so the IRS can make a cheesy Star Trek parody and paying for male prisoners to get sex changes. Oh I forgot that is racist not to do those things.

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    Liberals are going to regret voting for Obama because by the time he is done transforming America so many people will be ticked off at the Dems no one will ever trust them ever again.

  • Clifton Peacock

    They are running a surplus because they are dicking around our veterans. The more money they “save”, the better their bonuses are.

  • Anonymous

    Become a vet and then deal with the VA and then get back to us that have dealt with the VA.

  • Brian Hall

    Ok 1) we are living in a nation where we pay people hundreds of millions of dollars to chase a ball of some sort or act in a movie, yet the troops are paid not even a any wheres in the ballpark of 1/4th of that. 2) lets look at our politician what they make during there time in office and out (retired), they make more than any soldier would both ways. and the list goes on of jobs who make a lot of money off our soldiers giving their life so they can. This country (yes we have freedom to a point) is not free like they want you to believe. We are ran by some of the dirtiest liars, tell me one who has honored their word. It is both sides, so tired of people yelling it is the Dems or Rep. or Liberals, (it is all of them). All they care about is power and control and money and we are the pawns they use to get it. Why do they spend so much money on ads bashing each other than doing their job. Thank of this, look at the billions spent to get someone elected into a office. Where does that money come from, and what does the person getting elected have to do to get it. It is not free, there is strings attached to it all. The money comes from people wanting favors from them. We of the free then need to stand up and take back our freedom and our rights which we lose more and more of every year. I say fire them all and wipe the slate clean and make it to where a every day person has a chance. This country use to mean something in the world and now it does not, lets get it back to where it does.

  • Anonymous

    You sound like you have first hand experience. Care to elaborate?

  • Anonymous

    I’d be surprised if managers are incentivized at a government administration the way they are in for-profit businesses. Do you know that government workers get bonuses for spending less money? I’d think if they were, there would be a government surplus and a lot of angry citizens.

  • mudslide

    While he is right and pretty much spot on, this is not a new issue.
    The VA in general has been a problem for vets for a long, long time…among other issues.
    The question is, what will be done to fix it.
    Not ‘talk about it’ or ‘get upset’, but actually do something.
    Problem is, the current administration is more concerned with socialist agendas, taxing the middle class, and giving unearned citizenship to millions of illegals in the name of anti-colonialism.
    I don’t think this administration ‘hates’ vets or the military, I just think they could care less. it’s not a ‘value-added’ issue for politicians because the demographic is so small.

    I know and understand – as a 22 year retired vet it almost seems I have spent as much time fighting my govt for my benefits then I did protecting it.

    Action is the word – not REaction.

  • Clifton Peacock

    What about the trillions of dollars in entitlements that our govt. is paying out to non citizens and able bodied people who are able to work but won’t? Cut the fat off of unwarranted entitlements (about 65% of our yearly expenses) first.

  • Anonymous

    I agree that fraud should be rooted out. Of course it will cost money to police these people. Where do you get this figure of 65% of the budget is spent on fraud?

  • Kellogg Christopher Hays

    I think one possible solution is to have a private company administrate the VA while the Health Care providers are paid for by the government. And, give private healthcare providers special tax incentives to take care of our vets and needy.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    disgusting, every politician should resign or be fired, this happened on all of their watches, all of them represent veterans, don’t they care about anybody but themselves

  • Clifton Peacock
  • Clifton Peacock

    I was saying 65% of our yearly “budget” is entitlements and we could trim alot of fat off of that number if we combat the fraud that is rampant with entitlement programs.

    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/08/federal-spending-by-the-numbers-2013

  • Anonymous

    The problem has NOTHING to do with money. Have you had your head in the sand the last 8 years? The VA has run in the black for years and has NOT even used the money they are allotted for the past 6. Why do you Libs always equate EVERY problem with lack of money? EVERY problem…don’t hold anyone accountable…no…throw more money on the fire. Stupid!

  • Anonymous

    Good???? It’s good that they have more money than they know what to do with and yet they do this? That’s GOOD to you? You sir, are a moron with NO respect for our Veterans.

  • Anonymous

    Obama and his cronies are more interested in illegal immigrants that they are our veterans. It’s time to take back our nation.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve drawn a very strange inference from my comment. It’s good that there is money available to address the problems the investigations identify.

  • Anonymous

    My comment was regarding the estimated trillion dollar cost of veteran care resulting from the two wars. I understand that there is money available to address the problems identified by investigations of twenty some VA hospitals going on now. I predict they’ll need it.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve read that the government accountability office estimates fraud is between 70 and 100 billion dollars. A big number, for sure. But the government would have to expand to increase it’s policing efforts of such fraud.

  • Leslie Hoops-Wallace

    You state that WWII only lasted a short time compared to the war we are in now, that was because someone had the balls to bomb the crap out of the enemy, so they said stop, ok we give up. Until that is done in the middle east, nothing will change.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is madder then hell my A$$! If he is so mad, why isn’t he contacting the President of Mexico? I think it is more will not than cannot. If Mexico does release that Marine, it wouldn’t surprise me if Obama orders him to face Court Martial for AWOL. If Montel ever runs for President, he has my vote.

  • DezMarius

    First of all, thanks to all for their service. I have not served, but was made by a Marine, I have 2 Vietnam vets for uncles and my late grandfather a WW2 vet. To hear of this deeply concerns me as I have a child that like myself looks up to the military. He has been active in his ROTC program with great pride. However, I hate that it has come to a point where I feel I need to do all that is possible to make sure my only child does not become a pawn to politicians that will toss our veterans away like trash. While at the same time they do everything they can to provide free healthcare and tuition to illegals and those not even qualified to flip burgers.

    This is disgusting. I am ashamed as I have enjoyed the benefits of being an English speaking American thanks to those of you like my grandfather. I have not put my life on the line. I have no scars. I am intact and have not had to witness the loss of friends like many of these vets cast to the side.

    I’m saddened even more with a feeling of helplessness as all I can do is cast a ballot that I feel will do nothing to help. To do what, to vote a Republican in that will only want to have you beside him for a photo op while on the campaign trail to show that he cares for you in order to get votes? Or some R that only wants to have another R hold the chair when Shinseki is ousted. And for what? Better service? No, I doubt it. Just another crony to soak up funds before they get to the beds where they are actually needed.

  • Anonymous

    A liberal does not care about anyone except themselves, the rest can die!

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com/ Karen Rose

    The Doctors do not have ANY cures. They can only, hand out drugs and pain pills, and prob you with medical devices. Jesus is the healer, by His stripes we were healed, and the Holy Spirit that works in you, shows you how to be healed. He will direct you to the good things to do. Please watch this…The Body is a Healing System – Pharmacist Ben Fuchs http://youtu.be/M7ff2sXkSqM

  • zemla

    Those are good things to be thankful for, personally I’m grateful that we never had to rebuild bombed out cities and an annihilated infrastructure, all thanks to VFW….and as far as voting, I routinely “throw away my vote” on alternative candidates, a consequence of maintaining my integrity unlike some talk show hosts “cough,cough”, so don’t feel sad my friend, support who YOU think is best and tell others about them, as there is a colossal,well funded and oiled machine which makes it difficult for better candidates to contend….as a side note, Montel looks freaking ripped! my bony butt better do some pushups…

  • Take 2

    Obviously, 50 past years of sub par Presidents and Legislators have failed to restructure Woodrow Wilson – FDR – LBJ miscues of Socialized Collective mathematical blunders. AND their enigma for massive War to Control Population – boost economy with dead Americans. Point is the price to pay POST War is devastating for survivors from Bottom up. Absolutely, no intelligent plan of action or empathy for common survivor ie their life post soldiering eg., dealing with effects of War is shameful if not despicable. Pin Pointing Nam & Iraq primarily.

  • Anonymous

    Montel was a huge Obama supporter. Now he’s crying. He still doesn’t want to criticize Dear Leader. Go figure.

  • Tambria

    My son is in the Army and he injured his knee in boot camp. He has been dealing with the pain for almost 8 years. The past year it has been steadily getting worse. He has been trying to get treatment for 2 years now. He is only 30 and I can see the pain on his face when he walks.

  • Anonymous

    He would have been out in 58 minutes if he had been gay.

  • Anonymous

    I’m trying to figure out why the military still follows this guy’s orders. He and his administration have shown what they think of the armed forces time and time again.

  • Lin

    What the vet need to do is profess to be a black athiest converting to Islam . . .and who is a homosexual transgender needing a sex change operation but can’t afford it . . .in one day Mexico would have been anailated, ZerObama would have given the vet a national shout-out and a phone call . . .plus the POS would have let 50 veterans die to pay for the sex change.

  • Gale

    Sadly the focus has gone away from the war, you never hear anything since the President stated to the world when the Military will leave. It is a forgotten war for the Media, the President, and our Congress. With two wars over the last 10 years, you would have thought the VA would have been planning for the increased number of injuries, the mental issues for our VETS, and the need for added resources. Apparently planning does not happen here. I guess they are too busy counting their bonuses to even care.

  • Jena Carver

    obviously you have not dealt with the VA personally Landree I have. As the wife of a vet and mother of 2 vets and one active duty I have dealt with them and I have friend who work at the VA who complain that the managers recieve huge bonus every yr. And Private hospitals see more patients than the VA and I guarantee that no one is waiting a yr or more for appt like our veterans are. It is ridiculous to thinks that a soldier coming home missing 2 or more limbs has to wait a yr before the benifits are approved. So Please Landree before you open your mouth about something make sure you have the facts.

  • Anonymous

    I started crying, again, when I heard this video. What has happened to us as a nation? Do you all remember the flag waving in Sep 2001? Do you remember EVERYONE outraged and ready to take on the enemy? Sometimes I think, “We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us”!

  • Anonymous

    And this is the same government, that we have entrusted our nations health care to?

  • Anonymous

    @longduckdong2:disqus : You got that straight, and he knew what was going on and former President Bush warned this Bastard “ODUMBO” but he does not give a shit but for himself.. Although, I get great care at the VA here in N. Las Vegas. I have no complaints.. They need to get rid of that damn Secretary of Veterans Affairs and kick him out the “BACK DOOR”, oh, but “ODUMBO” is backing him, again “THAT BASTARD” “ODUMBO”!!!!

  • Anonymous

    @disqus_6mmikmqSud:disqus You got that right!!! I am not racist, but this “BASTARD” (so called president) is. He and that Moochell is too and can you see their daughters growing up in the same????

  • Anonymous

    @menofletters2005:disqus : Yup, you got it right!!!

  • Anonymous

    @mariangelw:disqus : Do not go that far!!!

  • Anonymous

    @disqus_qJBwQqyt7I:disqus : I understand, and I am happy your son is in ROTC, back him mine was too and went in the Army. I am an “AIR FORCE VETERAN” and proud of it, we just need to pray!! “GOD BLESS AMERICA”!!

  • Anonymous

    @disqus_eirNrGNKrz:disqus : Come on now, as a VETERAN I had a total knee replacement, he needs to get it together and do what he is suppose to do!!!!

  • Anonymous

    @menofletters2005:disqus : They have no choice!!!

  • Anonymous

    @SPEAKTHEWORDNOW:disqus : Yes, I believe in Jesus, but in the meantime medication does its part!!!

  • jjet

    The Sgt. would have been out in 24 hrs. if George Bush was in office. Sgt.Tahmooressi is a US VET. Black, white. or purple. Stop with the race crap. Leave that to the progressive Libs. The real racists.

  • jjet

    Gosh DezMerius, I’m not totally in disagreement about both Dems and Repubs. But please, please. The Repubs are much closer to who and what America and her constitution is. The Dems are not the party they once were. For many years. Progressive socialists have taken over. Please slow down, and really pay attention, and think. I’m in my late 60s, and believe me, this country is giving up her future, The FREEDOMS, my Father, uncles, and ALL but gone US vets who fought and died for in WW2.

  • jjet

    Yup, the The progressive socialists can always count on your understanding of the truth, and facts. You learned nothing of our history in school, and will never realize Money spent stupidly, wastefully, and criminally, will not correct anything. And trust me, the soldiers are comeing home “stressed”, Not only from the horror of the hell they went through, but because they weren’t allowed to fight to WIN. That my dear, is the point!!! WIN.

  • Dee Cain

    There are bigger problems in the VA than cooked books. M husband was treated for Acid Reflux for abut 2 years and lived on Tums. When a different doctor came to VA he ordered test and needed Triple Bypass surgery. Next time was someone changing heart medication causing his blood sugar to drop. When I brought this to the little foreign doctor attention she yelled at me. Then to find another prescribed Simvastatin at 60 mg a day when the top dose a person should have is 20 mg a day. This causes Dementia type symptoms. I am home care for my husband. He is not homebound but has sudden sugar drops with no warning. VA physician assistant we talked to last told me to get him an emergency button and go back to work. This was first time he had seen my husband. What he doesn’t know is I had to quit a full time job with insurance because I would come home to my husband in seizures. He has no warning of sugar dropping and can’t push a button or pen because his mind goes to confusion. Some people need to hear the people on he front lines. The Physician assistant’s final words to me was “Whatever”. This is what you get.

  • Jeff Noncent

    well the question come how can we fix this? I am telling you the answer to this question, get rid the president and his administration, and the army that stand with the president of this nation bottom line its not going to happen because the situation in Benghazi is not fix, and we have a murderer, a terrorist in the white house, everything rises or fall on leadership, that’s mean the president and his administration have to go as soon as possible, can anyone see this or am I the only one that see it for what it is

  • Anonymous

    It’s terrible that your son can’t get treatment. What does the VA give as an excuse for not treating your son?

  • pdy1959

    those in the 1960′s protests are now in our govt doing NOTHING! imagine that…..

  • Anonymous

    Jena, I did not comment about how the VA is handling vets. I did say that I’ve read the estimated veteran cost is about a trillion dollars for the two wars, that the VA provides about seven million treatments a month and that Time Magazine reported a complaint rate of less than two tenths of a percent. I have no knowledge of how VA managers are compensated and that I’d be surprised to find out that bonuses are awarded based on how much money they save the government. That alone is an obviously incorrect incentive. Positive outcomes and vet satisfaction combined with efficiency metrics must be part of any bonus structure. This is how Obamacare is restructuring healthcare compensation per the Congressional Budget Office’s recommendation.

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com/ Karen Rose

    Did you read this from Glenn’s email today…SHAMELESS LIARS & THIEVES!
    For Over 80 Years Big Pharma Conspired with the American Medical Association and the FDA to BURY the Secret to Healing Cancer … Now They’re Targeting a Nobel-Prize Winning Breakthrough for Heart Disease, Diabetes, Alzheimer’s and MORE!
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    Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Do I hear 58 seconds if he’d been Muslim? Going Once. Going Twice. Going .

  • Anonymous

    I have two friends with serious PTSD. I don’t understand what such psychological trauma feels like, but I know how it’s effected their ability to function. Both of these friends are very much on edge. I know two more people that served flying helicopters and they seem ok even after being shot at for three tours. One now flies a medical helicopter for a local hospital and the other is still in Afghanistan flying an Apache. None of them prefer to discuss strategy because it’s not their job (true soldiers), but all have expressed that the job is endless and maybe best just to get out. I wonder what “winning” looks like in a place like Afghanistan.

  • Larry Dawson

    Everyone has a choice!!

  • Tambria

    Hello grafr102, I am glad that you were able to have had a knee replacement, since I had one due to an accident causing a break, I know how bad the pain can be.
    As you my son, he is and has been doing what he is supposed to. For 8 years they have been giving him pain rx, anti-imflammatories, and bio-freeze. Along with an x-ray periodically. As a nurse, retired, I know what I am talking about, when I say that an x-ray will not show soft tissue injury. They only did an MRI recently which showed meniscal tears. NOW they are saying surgery, an Arthroscopy, and he is waiting for the appt to see the surgeon, and then will wait for the surgery day. He is now waiting about 2 months for the surgical consult. So before jumping to conclusions you should know the facts!

  • Tambria

    And as someone who is very proud of what our Vets have done, my father in the Navy, my uncle in WWII and 2 of my sons in the Army, one of which is in combat now, I would NEVER personally attack a Vet like you did me the mother of a Vet. So get the whole story or just be nice. God Bless you for your service.

  • Tambria

    Hi Landree, It’s not so much that they won’t treat him, it is the way he is treated medically. I am a retired nurse so I know the treatments he has been receiving are what we in the medical profession would call conservative treatments. Pain rx, anti-inflammatories, bio freeze, x-rays. Hugh medical corps like Humana, probably alot like the VA, have a protocol, when the patient says this, you do that. So when knee pain is the symptom after an injury they go the above route. And only when that route is fully exhausted do they go with MRI’s, which are expensive. They are typically not done quickly, unless you have a “cadillac” insurance plan or an aggressive doctor, or a real “persistent” patient. X-Rays are great diagnostic tools but are limited when it comes to soft tissue injury. That was my son’s case. He has Meniscal tears and now they are saying an Arthroscopy is in order. But he has been complaining for 8 years. I am praying that the surgery will relieve the pain and allow him to continue in his Army career. Thanks for your concern.

  • Anonymous

    Of all the scandals swirling around this administration the VA scandal is drawing the most fire because we as Americans feel the obligation to our Vets, we promised them and our government is failing to deliver, now vets are dying because of neglect and being made to wait for interminably log periods to get needed aid and assistance with their med problems, this is the future of government run medical and it is proof to get the government out of the medical biz…Repeal the Unaffordable HCA and put some of the crooked jerks in jail.

    Here’s more news from the front: This AM on radio KSFO, SF, it was reported that BOB the WH Faker is issuing another directive, this one will go to your American soul, this directive (#?) will allow him to use the military on his choice of what he perceives as political opposition, this is not a joke. it bypasses our use of posse commitatus to protect ourselves against government and if you go to the KSFO site you can hear this for yourselves…..for those of you who do not think this inept clown does not have some loose screws inside that thick skull of his, you had better rethink in a hurry….your free speech and right to assemble is on the line.

  • Anonymous

    I understand. It seems if your son still had serious pain after six months of medication, they should go to testing.

  • Anonymous

    It may have happened before, but before can’t be fixed. What is happening NOW should be fix NOW.
    Can we get someone in office who doesn’t learn about everything on TV ? I am so sick of the president “learning” about everything that is happening from the TV … either that’s garbage or he’s too busy to be president.

  • Bill Tilghman

    This president calls unilateral surrender and retreat from the field a responsible end to the war. There is nothing responsible about it. Getting fully 3/4th s of the casualties from this war during your term and then giving up is not responsibility, Mr. President, it is failure. The worst kind of failure is what you have managed to create in Afghanistan and you have laid it upon the shoulders of the brave men and women who served in our military during your tenure.

    It is abundantly clear this President does not know the first thing about prosecuting a war, and he should have left that to his commanders in the field instead of tying their hands so he could play Commander in Chief. He has done nothing but get people hurt and killed, and now he wants to leave. There has been no offensive operations in the field aimed at defeating the enemy, just one directed to get Bin Laden and once that was accomplished he put small units out in the country so the enemy could do their worst. The war has been kept out of the headlines, and except for the Afghan allies turning on our soldiers and killing them we neither see nor hear anything about going out and getting the rest of the enemy. We have yet to see one large scale coordinated operation to root out and kill the taliban and their allies in the ranks of multiple terrorist jihadist organizations. Nothing. Zero.

    If he wants a responsible end to this war, don’t repeat the failure of Iraq, WIN THE DAMNED WAR!

    It is time that we left the Afghan people a fighting chance for choosing the government they want in charge, not abandoning them. That is the most irresponsible end this war can come to, and he is heading straight for it at break-neck speed.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Landree, to leave the place without making any serious attempt to defeat the enemy causes PTS for many veterans. We go to war to win – not to wreck the place, kill people, get our own people killed and then leave when the people have a belly full of the killing and destruction. The commanders in the field need to have the ability to do what is necessary in a tactical sense to end the enemy’s ability to fight. Our military is not being given that freedom, but it is what they train to do.

    Obama should step out of the way and let them do their job.
    Fewer people, especially ours, get hurt in the process and the war ends much sooner when it is fought with the necessary degree of seriousness. This president does not know what he is doing on so many levels that he has become a source of national shame.

  • Bill Tilghman

    The VA where I live has been on a building program for the past several years, rehabing old clinics and department offices, installing an ER with 20 rooms (when there is a university hospital a mile away with one twice that size – in fact the hospital itself dwarfs the VA by five times.), and the spend tons of money on furnishings, sculptures, an electronic automated baby grand piano in the entry lobby, and the list goes on and on. Then there are the bonuses for performance and the VA employees that receive treatment which displaces veterans.

    There is a ton of this going on at VA’s across the country – I know, I have been to VA facilities in four states from the Southwest, to the deep South, to the Northeast and the Midwest in the twelve years I have been a VA patient. To top it off, unless you have service connection most veterans have to see outside dentists, even though dental problems can lead to heart disease. This goes on while they spend the money on creature comforts for the staff and making the place look nice. We vets could care less about the artwork, the furnishings – except the beds, and all the other junk they pay for that comes from the one budget the entire VA runs on.

    Want to have some fun? Try calling any specific person at the VA who treats patients. You will be fortunate during business hours if you don’t end up being babysat by some electronic call stalling device that runs you through punching buttons before they transfer you to a real person, and then if you are lucky that person will connect you with the proper department – if you are lucky.

    At best it becomes frustrating, at the worst it is maddening. This is what veterans have to deal with when getting care from the VA, and in one case I was visiting on vacation a long way from home and I lost a prescription – it took me waiting at the VA hospital a thousand miles from home for six hours to get my medication. SIX hours. If I didn’t need it I would have left and just waited a week until I was home.

    While the VA has done some good things for me, I can tell you the number of times it has been a pain in the rear on a ratio of 4 to 1 – four problems to one success. I use the VA because I have to, not by choice. I just hope I don’t end up on some terminal wait list someday. Many of my fellow Vietnam veterans have had this low ball treatment, many have had cancer and other serious conditions, and many of them are no longer with us. The drug formulary the VA uses is five to ten years behind current medications to save the VA money. They should be focused on providing the best care money can buy, but we know the truth of the matter, and because of this scandal now most of the people know it too.

    This is the real picture of the rationing of care that will be given to all citizens of this country once the Affordable Care Act is fully up to speed. There may or may not be death panels per se, but it amounts to the same if decisions being made are done on the basis of money versus the best level of care.

  • Bill Tilghman

    Prepare to be shocked. That is exactly what is happening.

  • Bill Tilghman

    The complaint ratio you refer to is not a true picture of the situation. What do you suppose happens to you as a veteran if you get a reputation for telling the truth and complaining about the care you are receiving at the VA? I can tell you, and it isn’t pretty.

  • Alvin

    The Phoenix VA will give pills and fix nothing. You should talk to the vets we know whats going on here. 10 years in Phoenix VA and over 20 years in the system this is not new!

  • Mike Barnes

    Assume you mean Bradley Manning. No waiting list for him! Even a secret one.

  • Ray Shulley

    just heard LT williams speak on glen beck i also cried as a a vet who is in va system and experienced this crap first hand my voice was ignored for the last 4 years nice to finally hear my words being heard across this nation and as a peacetime vet of which we are the second largest group ( after Vietnam) we are denied all the benefits we should receive just because there was not a war to me this is unconscionable we are told for instance our dental is not part of our body so are not covered under “our va health care” unless of course we are war vet now i like all of you think those are wounded go to front of line ill stand down for my brothers and sisters but va diagnosed me with ptsd and hearing loss enough for hearing aids all service connected then tell me i am not bad enough to receive disability i fought them for nearly 3 years they stone walled and deferred this is my story and needs to be heard i served my country i volunteered and am treated like second class veteran even by my fellow vets simply because no war “did we serve because there was no war or was there no war because we served” there are over 5 million peace time vet who are the true forgotten vet ( not the only ones Vietnam were treated worse) this country made me a promise as i made to it to faithfully serve i am reminded of the line from a rambo movie . ” all we want is for our country
    to love us as much as much as we love it “