Justin Timberlake criticized for mentioning Israel in caption of photo at Western Wall

Actor and singer Justin Timberlake posted a photo of himself at the Western Wall on his Instagram account ahead of a concert in Tel Aviv Wednesday night. In the caption of the photo, Timberlake used the hashtag “Israel” and he has come under fire for his use of the word.

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“Speaking of hate, somebody we don’t usually talk about on this program, Justin Timberlake, went to do a concert in Tel Aviv on Wednesday night and he was criticized for tweeting a picture of him at the Western Wall praying,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “Now what’s the problem with that? What do you think the problem is with that?”

Below is the photo Timberlake posted. The caption reads: “The Holy Land… What an experience. I will never forget this day. #Israel”

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The photo quickly racked up some 200,000 ‘likes,’ but it also received a tremendous amount of backlash from those who were offended Timberlake referenced Israel – not Palestine.

“FYI , it’s called #PALESTINE,” Instagram user remihattab wrote.

“Theres noland called israel be sure of that , its palestine and forever,” user shamasadnan posted.

“Oh, so the whole thing – even the Western Wall – is Palestine,” Pat asked. “That’s the problem?”

After discussing the story on radio, Glenn took to his own Twitter and Instagram accounts to show his support of Timberlake.

  • Deckard426

    The only problem with Palestine is that it’s full of Palestinians.

    • smokehill

      They’re the dregs of the Muslim world, and how much lower can you get?

      There’s a reason that no other Muslim country on earth will take them as refugees.

    • marco

      You mean Jordan. Their homeland

  • Crassus

    Palestine is a small town in Texas.

    • Anonymous

      Adrian Peterson of the Vikings is from there.

    • Anonymous

      A nice place, too. Very welcoming.

    • marco


  • M.O.T.L.

    Then we better stop referring to this country as United States and consider ourselves part of England – or better yet, let’s all jump into the ocean and let the land revert back to the Indians – or even better, let’s all just die and leave the land to the animals… I honestly cannot believe the liberal progressive communist hate from people. I stand with Israel, God’s people.

    • hahonononunu

      well, said

    • olney ford

      Thank You Glenn for bringing this up. Satan’s democrat, progressive, communist, or any other hate groups gets more unbelievable everyday.
      I plea with the people of this country to begin to stand up and speak up.
      We must start living our principles and statutes up close and personal.
      It’s all of our duty to be people of honor, integrity, trustworthy, love and respect our neighbor as ourselves. Jesus said “A house divided against it’s self cannot stand”. I realize that’s what these people in our leadership are counting on, but we know the way home. Why do we keep letting them lead us astray. Please let’s lock arm’s and lead a personal life of excellent moral character in each and everyone of our lives. We have to live it, not talk about. They will keep us chasing dog bones if we let them. Truth, Honor, Integrity, starts in our own daily walk, up close and personal ! God Bless You #You know the way home !

    • Anonymous

      There are a lot of maniacs in the White House today who would LOVE to exterminate ALL people on North America. Check out John Holdren sometime, Obozo’s Science Czar. Obozo has stocked his pond with America-hating Sociopaths!

  • Anonymous

    This has got to be the most brain dead indignation that I’ve ever seen. These tweeters really need to get a life. How is it controversial to take a picture of something in ANY country ANYwhere and call it by its name?

  • madman

    Justin Timberlake did nothing wrong with what he posted. Palestine is nothing but a terrorist wet dream.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, that’s right. In this land of Liberals, we can’t have an opinion. Israel forever!!

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    It is funny how liberals claim racism switched sides but you even say the word Israel they turn into nazis.

    • Anonymous

      That’s an extremely blunt statement, and it’s extremely true.

  • http://drudgereport.com/ Myles Standish

    Anti-Semitism is so fashionable these days. All the rage. Did I miss the memo that Hitler is back in power, or is it just Satan?!?

    • Onocor

      Obama is becoming a close approximation of Hitler.

      • Anonymous

        I’m no fan of Obama, but you go too far.

    • Don_TakitNEmore

      He sure does give Good Speech! Problem is…most of the thinking people don’t listen anymore. Hitler could messmerize the crowd..Obama is starting to put us to sleep or is slowly becoming a drinking game.

    • Tony Aviles

      It all lines up with prophecy Myles. God is in complete control.

  • Anonymous

    Israel is a nation of God fearing, loving, civilized people. Palestine is a ghetto of savages.

    • Jeff

      Same self-serving logic used to displace entire continents of Native Americans…

      • smokehill

        You mean those murderous Stone-age savages who spent most of their time slaughtering other tribes, raping their women & torturing their captives to death — the ones they didn’t eat? “Displacing” everyone not of their own tribe was the least of their little hobbies.

        Save the tired old Noble Savage routine for Hollywood pukes who never read a history book.

        • anonymous

          Okay one thing to keep in mind… history books in most cases only tell the “white” side of the story. Also if you think there was any justification in basically killing off a race of people that had their own political system, their own language, and had been living there for many generations you are mistaken. People make justifications to make the situation seem better than it actually is. There is no right or wrong there is only just and unjust. What someone can justify is what they think is right and what they can’t they see as wrong. Just because a situation is justifiable does not mean that it is the right thing. Also movies are movies. Unless it is a documentary the movie is fiction or not real. Even stories based on true events have fiction thrown into them to make them more interesting to watch.

          • Anonymous

            Perhaps before you attempt to lecture on history, you could learn something about it. Every single thing you stated is 100% erroneous. Consistency is a virtue, though. Of course, rejecting history because it was written by someone whose skin is white and embracing a fairytale that doesn’t agree with ANY history makes you a true humanitarian, not a racist. Ah, to be a leftist…where the facts for your position don’t exist, just make it up and open your mouth.

        • Matt Fry

          Get rid of the fanaticism, it really doesn’t work. Maybe you should read up on some history too because all of these torture devices were invented by those “Stone Age Savages”, right?


          • smokehill

            The Indians were culturally incapable of inventing anything, but were amazingly creative in their use of torture without any modern conveniences at all.

            If your culture is truly barbaric & degenerate, you can do more with insects, rodents & stone-age implements than any pack of Catholics who can smelt iron ore and forge steel. implements.

            No comment on the cannibalism, torture, perpetual warfare of the tribes? Since you learned all your history from bumper stickers, you might start with a book on Chief Pontiac, or the discussion of how squaws tortured the wounded, then castrated the corpses of the 7th Cavalry in the Dakotas.

        • Jose Cruz A

          These savages (as you called them) had a very specific code of honor. They did not kill or rape women and children, like the Britons did. Instead they fought morning wars, which consist of the warriors only, once the war was won, they assimilated the rest of the tribe to their own. The code of honor assured these new tribe members were not gonna revolt (obviously nothing is perfect in this world and there were some tribes whose members revolted). Furthermore, their social structure was very equal among its members, both male and female. While the British social structure was a chaotic race and sex degrading stratification. So now that you know a little bit more (i hope) the next time that you make a comment read a book or something.

          O and by the way, American Indians (the ones that used to live in North America) where not cannibals so there you have it, they did not slaughter other tribes, raped their women and children, tortured or eat their captives.

        • Josh T Weiner

          That’s gotta be the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

  • chuckles

    I read the Book! God gave Canaan to Israel. I’m not gonna question God. The Son of God is comming back to Israel, not Palestine. I try to agree with God as much as I can to save His Grace. I have to agree with the owner of everything. If God gives it to you, it’s yours!

    • Anonymous

      He, God, said His people would have to fight for Cannan, but He promised IF they were obedient, He would deliver the lands into their hands. In Joshua, God lists 31 cities they had yet to take and reminded Joshua they weren’t done fighting yet. Most of the 31 cities are in Syria.

      God’s promise to Israel ( the man ) that Cannan would belong to Israel’s children by fighting for it is not yet completed.
      What is disturbing is Obama’s announcement yesterday that he’s throwing American’s to the slaughter, sending them to Syria to support the vicious rebels who have sworn to kill every Jew and take away the land the Jews won. However the rebels aren’t good enough to overthrow Assad.

      Obama did and continues to do the same thing in Syria Putin’s doing in the Ukraine.
      Same plan. Same deception.
      Dress your mercenaries in un-identifying clothes, tell the press they’re Protesters not Rebel’s, tell the imported fighters to call themselves Syrians, no one will ask for your ID, spin your orchestrated overthrow of Assad’s government as Bad Assad, good Protesters, who would suspect an American President?!

      Ship missiles out of the Benghazi harbor at 9 pm to Turkey, then overland them into your undercover army in Syria to take out Assad.
      Then march into Israel.
      The US won’t stop them. The US is them.

      General Patraeus understands; the Commander of all military operations in the mid-east, sitting in his headquarters in Benghazi Harbor at dinner time, less then a half mile from rockets bursting in the air over his head, either
      A) didn’t see or hear 2 1/2 hours of rockets, automatic weapons, trucks rumbling fast through the streets behind his HQ, screams and 2 story high flames.
      B) the highest trained man in the military for life, forgot which side he was fighting for and which uniform he was wearing
      C) was told to ” stand down ” by the ONLY person who had more authority:
      the President himself, Barack Obama, Commander in Chief.
      Hillary was his stuge. Look up stuge. And don’t be deceived by political titles, expensive clothes, chauffeured limo’s, and the pomp of press releases and press meetings at the WH and Sunday news shows.
      There’s not enough soap in the WH to wash the blood off the hands of indifference and greed for power.

      But yes, Obama loses this war, God wins and yes He’s decided who gets Cannan; not Obama or the UK or the EU or Putin or the Hollywood movie stars or the chieftains on islands or Africa or Teen Idol’s or Bill Gates or the Soros’ or the monarch of the UK.
      You don’t have to believe the Bible or God.
      But the fight that is to come will reveal itself to each man, woman and child.
      Because that’s the stage Obama set just yesterday.

  • Shane

    I hope that Timberlake tells these haters to go to hell. I support Israel, not our terrorist enemies.

  • Anonymous

    I guess the real question would be, who do they think built that wall? It may have been taken by Romans, then Muslims, but it was not built by them. They can cry about it not being Israeli territory all they want, but it doesn’t change history.

    What’s next, is Italy going to claim that Masada has belonged to them since 73 AD when it fell to the Roman empire? Or will the lost descendants of Esau someday lay claim to it because it was built by Herod the Great, who was not Jewish, but Idumean? Give it a rest, crybabies.

  • Jeff

    Like children fighting over a toy… We should withhold all support from both sides and let them rip it all apart so they maybe learn a lesson.

    • LYK

      Pretty simplistic, eh?

  • Anonymous

    I am proud of Justin Timberlake and retweeted his post, Kudo’s to him

  • happy chick

    Or better yet everyone should, “let people be who they are.” Without judgement. You want to know why the world is the way it is and nothing is changing. Well because we are stuck in the the ego of; right and wrong. He is not right or wrong, he is someone who is having a personal experience that needs no one’s input or judgement. I hope people really start to realize that when you argue & judge you are perpetuating all the problems of our the world. The Creator put us here to learn to live with love, kindness and compassion. Sad that these are the things that are hard to accomplish only for the simple fact that someone judges to enable themselves to feel right. Regardless what picture & comments were posted, im glad he had a experience that touched his soul :-)

  • Sandy Buchanan

    There will always be haters in this world. They are copy cats….from mom and dad, from school peer pressure, to the liberal progressive universities. God tells us to become aliens and strangers in this world and focus on our real home, which is in heaven. If you revert to name calling, you will be no better than them. Just be a child of God. Jesus said that we will have the victory in the end, so satan, get under my feet! Just walk in your salvation and be victors. Israel is the apple of God’s eye. God said that in the end, man will be calling good, evil and evil good. I love Israel.

  • HeyJude88

    Yay Justin! I have real respect for him as a man now.. not just an entertainer! When the Palestinians had the land it was only desert! It is beautiful now! Losers weepers :)

  • Ncrdbl1

    Went to school with his mom and have known her family for many many years. In this part of the country we refer to that area as Israel NOT Palestine. The Palestinians were Nomadic tribes. There was never a country called Palestine.

  • smokehill

    I’m an atheist and I STILL stand with Israel against the hordes of Muslim terrorists who style themselves “Palestinians.”

    These are the same degenerate scumbags who rushed to volunteer for Hitler’s army, just to help annihilate the Jews. And that’s still their primary goal in life.

  • Onocor

    There is not now and never has been a land named Palestine.

    • Anonymous

      Good point.

  • eilen blake

    I believe Justin Timberlake’s grandfather was a Baptist minister, so assuming he was raised in the Christian faith, he would see Israel as being the Holy Land, promised by God. Kudos Justin, don’t cave and apologize, so sick of us Christians apologizing for our faith.

    • pbenders

      There is nothing wrong with faith. The problem here is the incredible amount of hateful responses from both sides.

  • Anonymous

    I am so proud of Justin, weather he knew it or not that was a very blessed thing to speak of the Holy Land. By the way all you Palestinians; The wall belongs to Israel and Israel is the Holy Land.

  • Terri

    I stand with #Israel forever.

  • Anonymous

    Amazing. Now, WHO exactly would object to the mere mention of the word “Israel?” Hmmm… let me think… Muslims would do that. And where do we find Muslims today? Why, they are spread all over the White House, for starters, and they are aggressively attempting to control America and the world. I got an alternate idea. SCREW Muslims. Justin, you go right ahead and mention Israel all you want! Israel.. Israel… Isreal… Israel… Israel!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve read the ending of the book and they lose so I’m not too concerned with with lib twitter trolls think Judea is called this week. Eternity is gonna suck hard for democrats.

    • pbenders

      Wow! A book told you that! Well guess what my friend, the Bible is fiction. When we die, we return to what we were before we were born: nothing. Keep clinging on to your book. The Bible is supposed to teach people to love and accept one other, but obviously, religious fanatics like yourself have failed to see that incredibly simple message.

      • Anonymous

        Prove the Bible is fiction.

      • Anonymous

        1. If there is nothing more than this life, its very existence is a meaningless accidental result in the gigantic act of happenstance known as the universe. Therefore, nothing is either good or bad. This entire world, and all of its occupants, will one day be obliterated, and the fact that it was ever here will not matter to the rest of the universe in the very least. So whatever “simple message” you happen to embrace is utterly irrelevant, if you are correct.
        2. If you think that “to teach people to love and accept one another” is anything close to a comprehensive representation of the message of the Bible, you’ve never read it the Bible.
        3. You’d better hope you’re right. And what a really profoundly cruddy thing to have to hope for. Banking on nihilism would probably smother the life out of your very soul. Good thing you don’t believe in the existence of such a thing, huh?

      • David Richardson

        The bible is a history book moron! It was told by people who actually lived on this earth. It also serves as a road map on how to live and not be a heathen. And if you read it you might learn something.

      • KingZ

        “When we die, we return to what we were before we were born: nothing.” – who did you here this from? i would like to meet the person who had this experience and remembers everything that happened from death until limbo.

  • Anonymous

    Israel is our friend !

  • Anonymous

    Why should our President have a voice whether Israel exists?
    First we must decide whether France or the EU or the UK should exist,
    they made war and the UK and now EU of course were losing.
    America should have received all the land America fought for.
    Can anyone not question how nations that lost against the Germans but kept their land and language should ever be allowed to tell a people who fought and WON, that they can’t keep the land they won.

    This is hilarious

    First let’s go after the UK and after France, then let’s rename Germany.
    They truly have no moral or military right to exist as ” nations”.
    How do losers object to winners taking what they won?
    When the losers were given what they didn’t win.

    Let the tourist decide for himself if he’s in Israel.
    Check his plane ticket.

    Dump the conniving PC language of rewriting public opinion by omission and substitution.

  • Vicky Rae Moon- Combs

    Justin said it right Israel then Israel now Israel forever becase god said it it is so no matter who don’t like it gbu jt

  • Gloria Haynes

    Thank you, Justin Timberlake. God Bless You, and God Bless Israel.

  • marco

    People need to stop being so rude to the regional Arabs. They are not all terrorists. Arabs have done a lot for this world. For example they invented the 1st Condom in 1272 AD by using the intestines of a Goat…Of course later the British refined the idea in 1873 by actually taking the intestine out of the Goat First :)

  • Hannah Bemel

    It seems like the last comment, by Pat, seems to be supporting Timberlake. IMO

  • swellhausen

    Ooooo damn him for referring to a real country as a…. REAL COUNTRY!

  • J.t. Coleman

    When the battle of Armageddon is over the valley will be strewn with the bodies of dead Palestinians…Israel is surrounded by Arabs who have sought to destroy them for decades. The population of the Arab countries around Israel is 50 times greater than that of Israel..now, if 50 men attack one man what do you think the outcome would be? There have been numerous attempts by the Palestinians to destroy Israel..well, so far the Arabs have been as successful in destroying Israel as Obama has been at running the U.S.
    God will protect Israel.. not the U.S., not the U.N….GOD WILL PROTECT HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE.

  • Rebecca

    Why cant we all just get along?

    • LYK

      Why not ask, “Why don’t Palestinians want peace?” Remember Golda Meir’s answer to your question – there will be peace when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Israelis.

  • Steve Orpin

    Maybe Mr. Timberlake IS Jewish!

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  • Anonymous

    so, wow, Palestinians built a Jewish temple? Israel is mentioned in historical documents for this land.

  • Anonymous

    There’s no future for Palestine or it’s false god. Israel will prevail because the true God of the Holy Bible said so.

  • Neilson R Hatfield

    Screw that whole area. Nuke it and there will be nothing to fight over.Aliens are laughing at us silly undeveloped monkeys.

  • Tom Zimmer

    Both of these sides perpetuate war by constant hatred. As men always do in the name of religion. Christ spoke against “the religious and self righteous” as you all are.There is no “true Jew” any longer. Paul said “he is a Jew who is one inward.” The nation of Israel is an apostate nation against Christ, not for Him. They were destroyed in as a nation in 70 A.D. by God Himself using the Roman army when Jerusalem and the temple were obliterated and the people were dispersed through out the world. The geneologies were stopped and the Mosaic law and sacrafices all came to an end. The healing of “The Nations” began and gentiles were grafted in to the “body of Christ.” It was all types and shadows pointing to True Israel, Christ. Get over Israel and all the killing that goes on there. It is all carnal. True Peace is found in the Prince of Peace, Christ! Not Israel!

    • Reliquary

      H’Satan could not have said it better…

    • Tyler Casey

      The “spiritual” nature of the nation of Israel has stopped…evidently the “political” nature of the nation shall continue until the end of days. They would not have sovereignty in that part of the world if it were not God’s hand working it {http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Col&c=1&v=16&t=NIV#s=1108016} I do wonder what the Holy Spirit is working in that part of the world…You’d think it might be a foothold for evangelism into Islamic countries, but everyday seems to point towards the justification for modern era crusades…

  • aaron

    PEOPLE forgot the Muslim countries didn’t want the Palestinians either in fact to name just one country out of the plenty that did the same thing egypt sent their military to prevent them from entering their land when this all was happening that’s largely why the Gaza strip exists… and Israel bought most of the land from WEALTHY ARAB FAMILIES…. the Palestinians where squatting on land they did not own and Israel had a right to make them get out …. and untill about the 1940s there was no such thing as a Palestinians only after Israel was formed in 48 did the term even exist it is a purely a made up nationality…. people forget history….. I’m 28 and know this.

    • RevNowWhileWeCan

      You’re 28 and indoctrinated. Maybe someone who knows can help you…………… Miko Peled is an IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) veteran. His grandfather signed the Israeli Declaration of Independence and his father was a Six Days War General.
      He has lost a young niece in this conflict so I believe his entrenched view on this issue should carry more weight than most. He was well indoctrinated into the Zionist cause and has had to unlearn and then relearn the truth.

      “The truth lays in the personal story, not in the national narrative.” ~Miko Peled

      2 ten minute lectures. Please watch…………


  • RevNowWhileWeCan

    So. How do you get through the lies and propaganda? Listen to someone that knows…….

    Miko Peled is an IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) veteran. His grandfather signed the Israeli Declaration of Independence and his father was a Six Days War General.

    He has lost a young niece in this conflict so I believe his entrenched view on this issue should carry more weight than most. He was well indoctrinated into the Zionist cause and has had to unlearn and then relearn the truth.

    “The truth lays in the personal story, not in the national narrative.” ~Miko Peled

    2 ten minute lectures. Please watch…………


  • Et Th

    Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land,(Israel)from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
    Gen 12:7 but the LORD appeared to Abram and promised, “I will give this land(Israel) to your family forever.” Abram then built an altar there for the LORD.

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  • Steve

    We should be tearing down the walls that come between us, not fighting over who owns them. This base desire to claim ownership over small patches of earth that remain indifferent to our squabbling and feuding should be beneath an enlightened being. Long after we and that wall are reduced to dust and everything fought over is lost to time, that patch of dirt will still be there, and it still wont matter what blood is spilt over it. Its such a waste of life to squabble over such a triviality as a claim of ownership. If your system of beliefs does not teach compassion and empathy, you have the wrong beliefs, and if it does teach them but you do not practice them, you shame your own code of honor. If you have to war and murder to defend your religion, perhaps its high time you question its validity.

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  • Anonymous

    Technically Pbenders has a point, the northern kingdom known as Israel basically ceased to exist after the Assyrian invasion in the 8th C. BC. The people were slaughtered or taken into slavery and didn’t return. The southern kingdom of Judah was invaded in the 6th C.BC by the Babylonians in the same way but the captives were able to maintain their religion and, when Cyrus the Great released them came back to Judah.

    His point is only semantic, the homeland of the Jewish religion has been in the area we now call Palestine (area, not state, there was never a Palestinian state as such). The name Israel is sacred to the religion so is a perfectly legitimate choice for the state of Israel – had they chosen to call it the state of Judah Pbender’s complaint would go away?

    The word Semitic is a linguistic term coined in the 19th C. for the old languages of the larger area that we could refer to as Mesopotamia, Palestine, and Arabia. Arabic, Hebrew, ancient Assyrian, etc. are of the same form. One of the Semitic peoples came to monotheism in the time of Abraham, the rest remained polytheist until the 7th. C. AD when Muhammed made converts to his belief (one based on the early teachings of the Torah, but with a new interpretation.

    Until the advent of Islam Jerusalem was sacred to Jews and Christians although the surrounding lands bounced among the Romans and minor potentates. (This is over simplified but I’m not writing an historical treatise). Muhammed considered himself as the Prophet of the God of Abraham, and he believed that the Jews had drifted from that original God. In fact, if you read the Qu’ran you will see that the early Suras (not lowest numbered, they are sequenced by length rather than date) have him reaching out to the Jewish community in Mecca, then Medina, to bring them back to the “true religion”. It is only when his overtures are rejected that he starts his diatribe against the Jews.

    I digressed, but to a purpose. One more digression before I close the circle. I was not in favor of the formation of Israel as a religious state (yes, I am that old – I was sentient and reasonably educated in 1947). I considered a religious state to be an anachronism and that the remaining ones should go secular (with tolerance and respect). After the initial war with the Islamic Arab states I accepted Israel as a “state in being”, just as they are.

    Our country is called the United States, our area is called North America. In North America is also a state called Canada and one called Mexico. Palestine is an area that has never been a state. The area was a part of the Roman Empire, then the Byzantine, then the Ottoman, then after WWI when the Ottoman Empire was broken up it was divided among the European powers as mandates for governance. Those mandates included forming the kingdom of Jordan, the state of Turkey, the state of Lebanon, and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia – and others. The old peoples of Persia, the ancient kingdom subsumed by the Islamic spread in the 8th C. (they were Zoroastrians, another monotheism) became the state of Persia – but a Muslim state. They changed their name just before WWII when they allied with Germany and at the suggestion of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem chose the name Iran – a phonetic Aryan. The Aryan peoples that Hitler so admired were not his blond Nordic ideals, they were the original Indo-European peoples who spread across the region about 6000 years ago.

    OK, I’ve made a lot of mistakes in this as to exact timing of events and/or details – give me some slack as I’m typing from the “top of my head”. I have only one college degree, and I “majored” in my “electives”. Too often we confuse education and learning. I was taught nothing at Princeton, no professor ever tried to convince me of his view. The profs were generally liberal, but would take the other side if a student parroted them. College, in my day, was still “higher education” instead of indoctrination. Secondary education still provided all the basic skills. I graduated from high school in 1953, many of the college graduates of today don’t seem to have the basic knowledge we needed to get into college. I needed a reading knowledge and some ability to write in two foreign languages and one ancient one (mine were French, German and Latin – and I audited Greek when I got to college). I needed a level of mathematics through Algebra and Solid Geometry, and a famliarity with Calculus. I needed a strong facility with English and writing skills. I needed a knowledge of history as a general thing (not agenda driven history). My first paper on the history of the middle east was written in fifth grade in 1945, I still have the formal assignment titled The Fertile Triangle with the hand drawn maps. I was not exceptional – all the kids had to do it. And my grade school wasn’t fancy – it was a district that included both the richest and poorest sections of the town.

    OK, enough – I’ve gone into many topics. Learning is not an accumulation of “facts” as given to you by others, learning is a life-long process of understanding and evaluation. With all due respect to Glenn, who has emphasized the changes in his life, one can never know a final truth until life is over, and even then it is only the last “truth” you know.

    • Josh T Weiner

      I think that said one productive thing, Mr. Princeton. (Just Jokes)

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  • “G”willekkers

    No need to be an intellectual or a historian… the Jews are God’s people… His own son was a Jew and they have continued to prosper in spite of every attempt to displace or exterminate them. They are under His protection… they really don’t even need the rest of us. I have tremendous respect for them as a people and believe in their right to dwell in the land promised to them.
    Justin Timberlake is an American and he has the right to say anything he wants. If you don’t like it… listen to someone else. You, as an American, do have a choice.

  • Anonymous

    Peace will only happen when everyone is taken out of the West Bank and Gaza and transported to another Arab nation. Israel, will then flourish and make that land become what the rest of Israel is. By the way I know some great builders for Temple Mount also .

  • hollie

    Everyone on here should read EXODUS the novel by Leon Uris. It will change the way you see everything.

  • Johnette Longtwo

    Father Abraham had many sons, many sons had father Abraham. I am one of them and so are you ….. so let’s just praise the Lord. (Play NICE with your COUSINS or You will NOT BE INVITED to FAMILY REUNIONS!)

  • Anonymous

    It’s ISRAEL! It’s Israel FOREVER! It will NEVER be anything but ISRAEL because YHWH said so . Does not mater what Satan’s lies say, IT IS ISRAEL. There has NEVER been and will never be a state called Palestine. There is no history of such a place, and lying will not make it so

  • Anonymous

    It will always be Israel!

  • Silverfox

    Glen beck is a filthy racist pig. Nice lips

  • Silverfox

    Madman – your mom gives me wet dreams

  • Jennifer Bilyeu

    Who cares if it’s Palestine or Isreal!? God bless that man who takes a moment of his time to pay respect to something he believes in!!! You guys need to get a grip!! There are more important issues to complain about in this world than whether or not Justin Timberlake should have hashtagged his tweet as Palestine or Israel!!!

  • Anonymous

    Palestinians are nobody but bunch of refuges from Egypt, Jordan and all the middle east surrounding. They ran away from oppressed terrorist leaders in their own countries. Israel let them live in Gaza strip, why not, where would they go?

  • SuperBeeee

    It used to be called JUDEA. Never Palestine.

  • שחר רחמני

    Hi, i just signed in here and i just wanted to say that i love you glenn beck for everything that you do for israel and showing the truth to the world. there is so much hate toward us for no reason. it’s like what glenn beck told once that we are only 6 million (14 in the whole world) and the truth doesn’t matter when the majority of the world says against you. so we need to tell the truth billions times more than them when they telling lies. may god help us all.

  • Amy Sandstrum

    Glenn Beck, idiot now, idiot then, idiot forever.

    • שחר רחמני

      Just curious, if you think he’s an idiot, what the heck are you doing in his website?

  • Anonymous

    that whole land belongs to Israel period Palestine just a made up word.

  • Softie

    Although some claim that society was “designed”, the liberty school understands that civilization results from the actions of individuals.

  • Elena

    Palestine has two names today — Gaza and Jordan. Israel w/Judea and Samaria was to have been for the Jews, not the (muslim) Arabs, under Balfour. The UN is the organization that made a mess of it.

  • Rachel Myers

    Please read and respond…
    2 Kings 17:13-23
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    13 Yet the Lord testified against Israel and against Judah, by all of His prophets, every seer, saying, “Turn from your evil ways, and keep My commandments and My statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by My servants the prophets.” 14 Nevertheless they would not hear, but stiffened their necks, like the necks of their fathers, who did not believe in the Lord their God. 15 And they rejected His statutes and His covenant that He had made with their fathers, and His testimonies which He had testified against them; they followed idols, became idolaters, and went after the nations who were all around them, concerning whom the Lord had charged them that they should not do like them. 16 So they left all the commandments of the Lord their God, made for themselves a molded image and two calves, made a wooden image and worshiped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. 17 And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger. 18 Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel, and removed them from His sight; there was none left but the tribe of Judah alone.
    19 Also Judah did not keep the commandments of the Lord their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made. 20 And the Lord rejected all the descendants of Israel, afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of plunderers, until He had cast them from His sight. 21 For He tore Israel from the house of David, and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king. Then Jeroboam drove Israel from following the Lord, and made them commit a great sin. 22 For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they did not depart from them, 23 until the Lord removed Israel out of His sight, as He had said by all His servants the prophets. So Israel was carried away from their own land to Assyria, as it is to this day.

  • Berrada Farah

    actually he wasn’t praying ,he was taking a piss. plz don’t misunderstood him!!!

  • Gloria Haynes

    Long live Israel.

  • Donna M. Spencer

    Read God’s Word (the Jewish God BTW) and see what HE Who created the whole earth has to say about the land. You need to wake up. Shalom

  • Berel Grunblatt

    You want to discuss? Let’s discuss.
    Quote “They went against the UN and displaced millions of Palestinians”.
    They displaced? When?.
    When the country was born, not one arab was moved. They mobilized against the jews and fhought them. They displaced themselves.

    Quote “whose “right” to be there comes from over 1,000 years of history.”
    Why do you find 1, 000 years to be more time than 3k? You say you are jewish, don’t you know that the jews where in israel for 3k years?

    Quote “I just don’t believe that any person has the right to take land from someone else.”
    Who took up land? Israel is a “U.N.” state, not one took up anyones land.

    Quote I”srael is a country founded on ideas of exclusion, and that is the problem.”
    Based on exclusion? When the country was born, israel accepted the two state solution, the local arabs didn’t!! Instead they fought and killed. Who excludes here?

  • Alexandra Ostrov

    read history please before you make uneducated comments. there are no such people as palestinians. they didn’t exist before 1948.

  • jlk43az

    Israel should not exist as a nation?… And you are Jewish? So it should be Palestine? And what of the Jews then? The Palestinians want them extinguished. That would include YOU too, if you are indeed a Jew, rather than a liar and hypocrite. You posted, ‘Israel should not exist as a nation’ before ‘I don’t think that any group of people is more entitled to any land than any other group of people’. Well, apparently you think Palestine is entitled to the land. How about this argument… Every human being is entitled to a place on this earth, even the ones you don’t like or agree with. There is enough room on the planet for everyone. The problem is when one group decides that THEY must dictate the beliefs/religion of any human being and those that don’t follow them should be exterminated. Long live Israel.

  • J.t. Coleman

    When the battle of Armageddon is over the valley will be strewn with the bodies of dead Palestinians…Israel is surrounded by Arabs who have sought to destroy them for decades. The population of the Arab countries around Israel is 50 times greater than that of Israel..now, if 50 men attack one man what do you think the outcome would be? There have been numerous attempts by the Palestinians to destroy Israel..well, so far the Arabs have been as successful in destroying Israel as Obama has been at running the U.S.
    God will protect Israel.. not the U.S., not the U.N….GOD WILL PROTECT HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE.

  • Hannah Bemel

    Ignoring for the moment the Biblical foundations of the right of Israel to exist as a nation, as that argument does not resonate with you (which is fine), go back to the mid-1940s. Israel was recognized as an independent nation by a multinational board following WW II. The war in which Israel pushed back its borders (1967 I think) was begun by neighboring nations attempting to “push Israel into the sea.” It is widely understood that countries victorious in war maintain possession of the land. Consider South Korea and French Polynesia, Cuacao, British/French West Indies. Prior to WW II, from 1921-1946, the area proclaimed to be Israel was under British control and known as the Emirate of Transjordan. Nobody is boycotting or protesting against England. When the treaties ended, the UN attempted to establish a two-state solution.

    “The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a proposal developed by the United Nations, which recommended a partition with Economic Union of Mandatory Palestine to follow the termination of the British Mandate. On 29 November 1947, the U.N. General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181(II).[2]

    The resolution recommended the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. The Partition Plan, a four-part document attached to the resolution, provided for the termination of the Mandate, the progressive withdrawal of British armed forces and the delineation of boundaries between the two States and Jerusalem. Part I of the Plan stipulated that the Mandate would be terminated as soon as possible and the United Kingdom would withdraw no later than 1 August 1948. The new states would come into existence two months after the withdrawal, but no later than 1 October 1948. The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims of two competing movements: Arab nationalism in Palestine and Jewish nationalism, known as Zionism.[3][4] The Plan also called for Economic Union between the proposed states, and for the protection of religious and minority rights.

    The Plan was accepted by the Jewish public, except for its fringes, and by the Jewish Agency despite its perceived limitations.[5][6] With a few exceptions, the Arab leaders and governments rejected the plan of partition in the resolution[7]…” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

  • J.t. Coleman

    Intellect?… You just don’t get it do you?
    Israel will not give up the land and the Palestinians have not been able to destroy Israel and never will.
    Your intellectual reasoning will have no bearing on the outcome of things.

  • Danny Sims

    If you want intellectual responses, don’t expect to get them from this crowd.

  • Nick Djsmarts Smart

    You do realize that the name “Palestine” was given to the land known as Philistia Israel, Judah, and Samaria right? They were descendants of Abraham, and Israels existance is a historical and archeological fact. There are Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian, and Persian records of it existing before the Romans took control. The Romans later dispersed the Jews to other parts of the empire as part of an ethnic cleansing.

  • Anonymous

    1) You may debate the authenticity of Biblical text if you wish, but the Middle Eastern genetic origin, linguistic/cultural traditions, and archeological connection of Jews to ancient Israel is irrefutable.
    2) There were not “millions” of “Palestinians” displaced in 1948, but several hundred thousand- a number considerably smaller than the number of Mizrahi Jews expelled by Middle Eastern nations. These Arabs were offered a 23rd state but rejected the offer as long as it meant living in peace with a sovereign Jewish state. You may be confusing numbers because today there are millions of “Palestinian” descendants living around the world.
    3) What’s anti-Semitic is solely delegitimizing the Jewish state to the exclusion of all others. I’m curious if you feel Israel is the only state on Earth that “should not exist as a nation”

  • Matthew Garber

    You, sir, are what is called a self-hating jew, which means you may or may not be religious, but you believe that the Holy Land should have no Israelite foot stepped on it.

  • Marina Abramov

    You first statement
    makes absolutely no sense at all. If you currently live in the U.S., you
    should move back to your native country and give your home to the American
    Indians (most of us are not from here). Next, if you know anything about
    history, you would know that all three of the major religions laid claim to the
    area throughout history (the Jews have as much right as any group). The
    current situation needs to be resolved but I also think most people’s
    oversimplification of how to resolve it makes me extremely angry and frustrated
    (especially when you openly admit you are Jewish). Truly sad that most
    Jews/people outside of Israel are so clueless and yet have such a strong
    opinion (get on a plane and go visit and come back and talk to me). I don’t know
    another country in the world that continues to provide medical and monetary
    support to people that want to wipe them off the face of the planet (Israel
    generally acts as a first responder to any country in need of aid in the region
    as well). They also offer technology in farming/among other things to
    numerous third world countries that are instrumental for their survival.
    STOP making this just a geography exercise and see all the other
    variables if Israel didn’t exist. There is so much more to write but ignorant
    people will see what they want to see no matter what the facts/truth are

  • Anonymous

    You claim to be Jewish yet you refer to the Torah and the Talmud as a made up book? DO you ignore all the archeological evidence? The historical evidence? Do not forget in 70 A.D. your own people (Jews) were displaced by the Roman Empire who then proceeded to move those who would become the Palestinians in.

  • Selena Yeager

    This battle has been going on since the beginning of time and will only stop when Jesus returns. You can read the story for yourself and find out the ending, all you have to do is read your Bible. It’s all right there. Then again if you don’t believe you can always wait to find out but I think you may be disappointed.

  • Anonymous

    Your declaration that Israel should not exist as a nation is a bold statement that doesn’t seem to come from great knowledge. Jews were as much a part of “Palestine” for as long as any of the Palestinian people. In fact, the word, “Palestinian” is a fairly new construct. Palestinians are not a single race. In fact, they share, as a majority, a genetic commonality of over 80% with Jews. The majority of them live in exactly the same areas that they have lived throughout history, with the majority of them coming from the West Bank, Gaza and Israel. They are culturally Arab, but are closer to the Jews genetically than the Arab peoples, especially when compared with the peoples of Egypt, many of whom are also culturally Arab, but not genetically so.
    Palestinians have never possessed a country as a people because they are so culturally and genetically diverse as a people that they have never, until the 20th century, been considered, even by themselves to be a unified group and it was not until the late 1960’s that the name “Palestine” became associated with an actual place and people because the Palestinian people historically were spread over the entire eastern Mediterranean, and traditionally, have a longer history and greater concentration in Jordan, where they comprise more than 50% of the population, than in Israel. They have never been a unified political force with nationalistic ambitions until World War I and then, only in the most extreme sense of the word. Until the 1960’s, the Palestinians did not have a unified view of either their past or their future.
    Here’s the problem with the limited, revisionist view that you hold. The Palestinian state not only does not recognize Israel’s right to exist as a nation, but they also officially do not recognize the right of individual Israelis and Jews, in general to live. Your claim that the Palestinians have a history of more than 1,000 years owning the land is at odds with factual evidence. The Jewish people have an even longer history in the region and that history is uninterrupted, contrary to your claim that they were neither present nor a political force prior to the creation of the Jewish state in 1948. There is no question of their identity as a people, whereas the Palestinian claim to a genetic and historical claim to the land is simply untrue. There has never been a land belonging to the people currently referred to as Palestinians and no true country known as Palestine, excepting references historically to Syria Palestina, which refers to all of the land of the eastern Mediterranean. The geographic region was not associated with the people who ethnically identify themselves as Palestinians today because they are ethnically and genetically comprised of multiple peoples, including Jews, who until 1948, were the majority of the peoples considered “Palestinian”.
    It’s too bad that you’ve been taken in by the political drivel that passes for news. Your understanding of the history of the region is severely lacking and your claim that Israel and its people have no right to exist, yet somehow, both the mythical country and the mythical people who supposedly populated that land DO smacks of the same foolishness that allowed Hitler to convince otherwise good people of the same evil contention.

  • aaron

    They bought the land

  • Shira Shmush Yaari

    Every time that Israel has taken more land and more land was actually because the wars that were started by neighboring countries. I live here now, and I’ve actually went to visit Palestine. Israel takes care of Palestine when part of the initial armistice agreement was Palestinian authority took care of their own people. Israel is a developing country because the Israelis. I’ve met Palestinians who wished they had an Israeli citizenship because it’s a healthier place to live. The ground you live on was taken from people so don’t start. Whether it’s America, or Europe, unless you live in India or China or places like mesepotamia, your land was taken from others. Good day sir.

  • Daniel Olson

    An archaic made up text? I dont recognize this as a statement that would come from someone who’s history and identity is shaped by this “made up text”. I’m no conservative, I dont think Israel is above reproach, but as a Jew your position seems self defeating. If its a made up text… exactly what do you believe?

  • Anonymous

    YHWH will have the final word on whose land it is;
    Jer 31:35 So says the LORD, who gives the sun for a light by day and the laws of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, who divides the sea when its waves roar; the LORD of hosts is His name;
    if those ordinances depart from Me, says the LORD, the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me forever.

    It was called Israel then and it will be called Israel when HE RETURNS.

  • Daniel Saunders

    Another anti-zionist apologist jew- lost in an identity crisis- who can’t come to terms with his own people’s history and the truer story of Jewish immigration to philestina.

  • Ed Walker

    No one took land from anyone – no one was displaced. You are product of your own self hating propaganda. Palastine was a portion of Trans Jordan – there are no such people as Palestians – They are alll Uma – of the people. There is no difference between a Jordanian a Syrian, or a Palestinian – they al originate from the same group. Should Southern California be “given” back to Mexico – What about the thousands of Mexicans who were displaced when California became part of the United States. Israel is not a country of exclusion – there are arrab members of the Kineset – Arabs have the right to vote – how many christians or jews have those rights in Saudi Arabia, Jordan or other moderate Arab States in the area,. Read a history book about the region prior to spouting off and get away from you professors’ hatred of successful colonizers.

  • olney ford

    God Bless Truth. !! Amen

  • Brad Smyly

    You mean the chosen people who killed his son? Interesting.

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  • Anonymous

    “50 times greater” is a bit generous on your part. There are 1.5 billion Arabs worldwide, the majority living in the ME. The Arabs have 22 states which is 99.99% of the land mass in the ME and Israel is only .01% of the land mass (always compared to the size of NJ but this is also a generous comparison…it’s actuallly quite a bit smaller and much more narrow, especially where it’s only 6 miles wide at one point, there is NO place in NJ that is that narrow!). There are only about 6 million Jews in Israel, the rest of the population are Arab, Christian and others. Jews worldwide are only about 12 to 15 million…these numbers are sketchy, unfortunately, because of all of the intermarriage or because Jews don’t always identify as Jewish because they’ve assimilated into the larger societies in which they live. Just wanted to clarify some points.

  • olney ford

    God will confuse the so called wise. (intellectaul ) And they will come to nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, that response was arguably, the most striking example of “intelligence” on the site…at least to someone who has demonstrated no capability for the same “intelligence” he claims doesn’t exist by the participants. Yet, you don’t notice the irony that YOU are here. Gee, I wish I could be as “intelligent” as you are.

  • aaron

    I agree in part but you forgot the Muslim countries didn’t want the Palestinians either in fact to name just one country out of the plenty that did the same thing egypt sent their military to prevent them from entering their land when this all was happening that’s largely why the Gaza strip exists… and Israel bought most of the land from wealthy Arab families … the Palestinians where squatting on land they did not own and Israel had a right to make them get out …. and untill about the 1940s there was no such thing as a Palestinians only after Israel was formed in 48 did the term even exist it is a purely a made up nationality…. people forget history….. I’m 28 and know this. Berel I’m not attacking you … I agree with you just clarifying a few things

  • myword

    Great response.

    Just one point: Contrary to popular belief, Israel was not created by the UN. The 1947 Partition Plan was merely a recommendation (as are all General Assembly resolutions) – while the Jews were willing to accept it, the Arabs rejected it, and thereby rendered it legally irrelevant.

    Instead, Jewish legal rights to the land stem from the Mandate for Palestine – a document that was unanimously approved by the League of Nations in 1920, and which gave Jews rights to all of Palestine (including Gaza, Judea, Samaria, and all of Jerusalem). Events since that time further bolstered Israel’s legal right to the land.

  • Daniel Liliav

    People use to see just the “Palestains” side (Palestine does not exist any more – when the Greek Empire ruled over this region they named this place Palestine and befor this The Israelian nation was there with Jewsland until they exiled both) Thoes Palestians are group of nationes that exiled to Jewsland.
    When the Jews cameback (When the Ottoman Empire ruled over this region) Arabic that called themself Palestians started to harm thoes Jews with the theoretical argument that this region belongs with them- this is all the story.
    As for the rest of the story in 1947 the UN had a decision to split this rigion for tow countrys one of them is the “Palestine” country and one of them is THE STATE OF ISRAEL and the holly city Jerusalem will consider to International area.

    The “Palestians” REJECTED this decision and then Jews and “Palestians” Started a war the winner wins the rigion the JEWS WON and the “Palestains” LOST. and this is it.
    Now in are own days they are not consider Israel as a country and this is their problem. and now it’s to late
    Even Jorden that full of “Palestians” rejct them. END OF STORY.

  • Josh T Weiner

    There are references actually to “Plishtim,” or what historians think are the earliest Palestinians. Not defending them at all, I full support Israel and will God-willing fight in their army one day, but I think the Palestinians have existed for a while.

  • Anonymous

    The “pails” were a term coined by Yasser Arafat after the 1967 war. Oh, and BTW, Arafat wasn’t even born in Israel…he was an oppotunist who came from Egypt, a cousin or nephew of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who was best buds with Hitler. Arafat who died of AIDS due to his homosexuality, it is rumored, left his widow (who married him only to make him legitimate and help to quash the homosexual rumores about him…and also for the big bucks she was promised if she produced a child) and his daughter are multi billionaires living in the lap of luxury on the French Riviera, living lives that most could only dream of. Abbas also is worth billions, hiding his money in Switzerland, as are several of the top Hamas leaders. Mashaal is living in Qatar presently as a billionaire. Don’t cry to him or any of them, Argentina!…as the song says. All of the millions and millions of dollars that have been given to these “pails” since 1967 by ISRAEL, the US, the EU, the UN, etc. has been used to line the pockets of all of the “leaders” who are really in it only for the money, not to help the poor people who don’t live the way all the money they have been given should show. And Israel, BTW, provides electricity for Aza/Gaza and those Arabs living in Judea and Samaria (West Bank), water, food, medical needs…and they are accused of starving the Arabs there. What a bunch of crap! We Jews are asked to donate money to send to the IDF for toothbrush and toothpaste and socks and some equipment for fighting because doesn’t have the money…they’re too busy sending money that they don’t have to their enemies. And, even so, they’re accused of such horrible things that is the furthest thing from the truth. All that Israel wants to do is live in peace and the Arabs would be the beneficiaries of this dream. They would be treated far better than they have been by their so called leaders!!!

  • myword

    Today’s Palestinians are not descendants of the Philistines (aka Plishtim). Today’s Palestinians are a mixture of various peoples (including Arabs from Arabia) who arrived in Israel since the Romans conquered the ancient Jewish kingdom of Judah.

    After the Roman conquest, the Romans renamed the region “Palestine.” As a result, prior to 1948, anyone who lived in the area was referred to as “Palestinian.” Thus, you had both Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs.

    After Israel declared independence, the Jews and Arabs who became citizens of the new state were now referred to as “Israeli.” Eventually, the Arabs (and individuals of other ethnic backgrounds) who did not become part of Israel began to call themselves “a Palestinian people.”

  • Ze’ev Ben-Yechiel

    There is absolutely 0 connection between the Plishtim of the Bible and those who call themselves “Palestinians”. HUGE misconception.

  • Anonymous

    Plishtim is Hebrew for INVADERS. This what the Hebrews (Jews then called Judaeans as they were of the Royal Tribe of Judah (from whom are descended King David, Solomon and Jeshua-Jesus) and the other 10 tribes (who later were scattered amongst the nations to be returned to the Promised Land after the Jews return which means any time sooner or later…) called the Sea Marauders who came from the Aegean Sea area to settle on the seashore lands of Israel, Lebanon and even ancient Egypt. The ones who settled in Gat & Ashkelon on the southern seashores of Israel were those who we read about in the stories of Samson and Delilah, King David and Goliath and King Saul and his son Jonathon, a good friend of David’s, who were killed in a battle with the Plishtim. After several centuries the Plishtim disappeared leaving only a few shards of Grecian-type pottery behind them.

    Today’s ‘palestinians’ are just Arabs from Saudia, Iraq, etc. who are also plishtim (Invaders and colonists) but, like the forementioned Plishtim, not natives of the Holy-Promised Land.

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  • Josh T Weiner

    So it’s total coincidence that the Plishtim and Palestine have similar names derived from the same source?

  • Anonymous

    Yes — funny that you find that “interesting” though. All has been recorded, prophesied, and much fulfilled. Including the crucifixion and saving of Israel. It’s all there in the scriptures.

  • http://www.thereisagod.webs.com/ Derek Lockhart

    No, the Romans weren’t His chosen people. Israel has never stopped being God’s chosen. God made a promise that those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. That’s not rescinded. The Church was ‘grafted in’, a ‘wild olive shoot’ that was put on to the cultivated one. Gentiles are the ‘wild olives’ while the Jews are the ‘cultivated’ ones. This was written after the foundation of the Church. In other words, the Church doesn’t replace Israel.

  • Brad Smyly

    “The stone that the builders rejected is one that has become the chief cornerstone. The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.” “He is not a Jew who is one on the outside. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside.” “Not all who spring from Israel are really Israel”

  • Tony Aviles

    You should get familiar with your bible. The Jews pulled the trigger on Jesus. Pontius Pilate didn’t want to execute Him. The Jewish leadership insisted. It was all God’s plan. Who are we to question His methods?

  • http://www.thereisagod.webs.com/ Derek Lockhart

    The Jewish LEADERSHIP, yes. Specifically the Sanhedrin council. The average Jewish people were not involved. Many of them had been shouting “Hosanna in the highest” only days earlier as Jesus entered Jerusalem on a donkey, fulfilling the prophecy in the book of Zechariah, Chapter 9 verse 9 which states as follows: Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey”. The Romans were the ones who had the authority to execute, else the Sanhedrin would simply have done it themselves. Romans technically had the authority and Jesus was crucified under their watch, so they’re culpable as well. Pilate’s washing of his hands of the business was a symbolic gesture, but ultimately meaningless in the face of an all-knowing and all-just God.

    Despite the Sanhedrin’s – effectively the ‘ruling body’ of the Jews under Roman occupation – culpability, the gospel was still preached first to the Jews. In fact, Peter is considered the ‘apostle to the Jews’ in the same way that Paul is the ‘apostle to the Gentiles’. Peter is also usually considered something of the ‘leader’ of the Apostles, in a sense. He was doubtless among the more public faces associated with the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. Yet God still chose for the message to first be preached to the very people who had just assassinated His Son. Their behavior did not nullify the covenant that God established with Abraham, nor the later covenant established with David that a man of his line would sit on the throne of Israel forever. That Man, obviously, is Jesus Christ.

    As I’ve said earlier, we Gentiles have been grafted on. Israel are God’s chosen people. The New Testament compares them to Isaac, the ‘child of the Promise’. God made a promise with the people of Israel to be their God for all eternity (not as if any other takers for that position even existed, really, but I digress) and their behavior towards the Son of God merely proves God’s holiness and perfection in the face of their sin.

    You are right in your statements, Tony. However I am familiar with the Bible. I read it every night. I know I still have a long way to go, but hopefully there’s already some distance behind me. God bless.

  • Anonymous

    Pontius Pilate was one of the most cruel and bloodthirsty of all the Roman commanders to rule over Judaea. He crucified hundreds of Judean men every month because rebellion against Rome was simmering amongst the male population of (as all over the Roman empire) and he thought killing as many Judaean men as possible would prevent a rebellion from taking place. Even senators back home in Rome opposed PPs cruelty and tried to curtail his period as ruler over Judaea. Perhaps his play at ‘washing’ his hands was directed at his critics in the Senate.
    Moreover, High Priest Caiphas didn’t want Yeshua, a fellow Pharisee, to be crucified by the Romans as that meant they considered him to be yet another rebel which could reflect upon Caiphas and other Pharisees as being potential rebels too, who could also end up dying in agony on Roman crosses, something which Yeshua’s disciples also feared and thus denied knowing him when recognized by others at the crucifixion site, Also the fact that the Romans placed a ‘crown’ of sharp thorns on Yeshua’s head and then a sign above his bloodied head declaring mockingly that he was “King of the Jews” is further proof that they considered
    him to be a rebel leader of the huge crowds who adored and followed him everywhere including on his tortured way to the cross.

  • myword

    It’s not a coincidence, it’s history:

    A little over three thousand years ago, the Philistines/Plishtim arrived on the coast of Canaan and harassed its inhabitants, including the Israelites, who fought numerous wars against them.

    Later, when the Romans wanted to quash Jewish resistance, they chose to rename Judea “Palestine” (a named derived from “Philistine”) in order to wipe out the memory of Jewish rule in the land. By this time, the Philistines had long ceased to exist as a distinct ethnic group.

    As I wrote earlier, because the region was now called Palestine, its inhabitants (including Jews) were referred to as Palestinian. Until the 20th century, there was no “Palestinian people,” but rather various Palestinian groups.

    In the latter half of the 20th century, in order to give legitimacy to Arab claims, Palestinian Arabs (and individuals of other ethnic backgrounds) who did not become Israeli were branded “the Palestinian people.”

    Therefore, as Ze’ev Ben-Yechiel pointed out above, there is no connection between the Plishtim of the Bible and those who call themselves Palestinian (other than the fact that today’s Palestinians appropriated the Philistines’ name).

  • Anonymous

    Try as you might to deny God’s promises to the Jewish people, the entire Bible, predicts the Return of the Israelite Royal Tribe of Judah (Jesus’s tribe) from a long hard exile back to their Promised Land. When the nations (Gog and Magog, etc.) led by the satanic Anti-Christ, turn against
    the Jews in their Promised Land, which they have turned back from a 2000 year-long barren malaria swamp into the fertile Land of Milk and Honey (as it is again today) and come against it to ‘wipe it off the face of the earth’ they are in for a big surprise. So many will be killed, or die of God-given diseases, that it will take the people of Israel 7months to bury them. So it is written and so it will be. God doesn’t break His word.
    If you don’t believe me look up the following in the Bible:Ezekiel 38:1-23; Ezekiel 39:1-29; Amos 9:9-15; Joel 2:26-32; Joel 3:1-21; Zechariah1:12-17; Zechariah 2:9-12; Zechariah 8:2-24; Zechariah 9:1-17; Zechariah 12:1-14 (this promise should interest you a lot !!!); Jeremiah 33:14-19 and many more prophecies for the End of Days. So which side would you prefer to be on???

  • Anonymous

    My compliments to GranDam, both for this and the other two posts. I will assume that GD is a she, as in grande dame, and probably a grand mother – as that is one of the uses of the phrase (the other is doyenne, the great lady in charge).

    I had totally forgotten the Phoenician traders of the time, the sea going culture that spread along the entire Mediterranean coast. They were not a single people, by best estimate, but a generic term. The similiarity of Plishtim, Phillistine, Palestine, Phoenician suggests a similar origin of the term, with allowance for the changes over the centuries in sound. BTW, my name is Murphy, which in Irish Gaelic is approximately Mercou and is translated as “sea warrior”. A very common name in Ireland, perhaps the most common. That suggests that I, and all my namesakes, are the product of Danish rape (the common word for the Norse Vikings was Danes at the time, note the Danelaw area of NE England).

    GD’s comments on Pilate are “right on”, a cruel Roman governor who was considered to be “over the top” even in Rome. I will quarrel with her (or his, if my guess was wrong) assessment of Caiphas. The Pharisees, and the Saducees, both were priestly classes. Early Judaism was a relationship between “a man” and God. Later, the time of David and Solomon, the temple and the priests intervened. At the time of the Assyrian conquest Judaism was a religion of temple and priest, the captives, removed from their base, never came back. By the time of the Babylonian invasion the concept of the minyan had developed (what Max Dimont called the “portable god”). When Cyrus freed the captives they still had their religion as they had passed it on to their progeny.

    The history of Judaism has bounced back and forth between the direct relationship of man and God and the priest and temple as intermediary a number of times in the millenia since Abraham. At the time of Yeshua (Jesus) the scale was tipped toward the priesthood – the Essenes and John the Baptist, influences on Jesus, were rebelling against that The Pharisees and Saducees were two sides of the same coin, they differed but each supported a priesthood. Caiphas, as high priest, had a need to eliminate the Galilean who had developed a popular following. Perhaps he didn’t want the crucifiction, perhaps he would have preferred a public scourging and exile – we will never know. We can know that he wanted Jesus out of his hair.

    A final comment, and compliment. I don’t now if GD is a Jew with an understanding of the trials of Jesus or a Christian with an understanding of Jewish history. And I don’t care. I am atheist, in the proper sense of the word. I am without god because I am without knowledge (agnostic). Whether the good laws of religion come from a god or from man is of no concern to me, I subscribe to them and live by them. I will find out someday whether God exists, and I hope not too soon (at 78 I think of that).

    The early writings in the Bible (the Torah as translated) speak of a jealous God. The entire concept of Islam, the writings of that single man Muhammed over about 20 years, goes back to that. Judaism and Christianity have varied in their doctrines over the many centuries, sometimes strict observance to “gain paradise” and sometimes just being good. For all the fundamentalist Christian view that heaven is found through Jesus only, we yet have the parable of the good Samaritan. Within the Christian and Jewish religions there is space for the pagan who is good.

    Wow, I digressed a bit, as usual. But I was impressed by the clear thought and general knowledge of GranDam and it got me thinking.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a bit confused. The Arabs who lived in what is now Israel, came as nomads from different Arab countries. When the Jews returned in large numbers in the 1880s because of the Captain Alfred Dreyfuss Affair in France where he was charged for treason and many years later exonerated, the European Jews were fed up at that point with all they’d been through in Europe (Crusades, inquisitions and explosions, disputations, pogroms). BTW, there has ALWAYS been a Jewish presence in the land since the Romans felled the 2nd Temple, albeit usually small because of circumstances of difficulty living there and being killed by whoever decided to try to rule (like the Turks, e.g.), this was the first time that the Jews were there by the hundreds of thousands. They cleared the swamps and many died from malaria in the attempt to make the land bloom…and indeed they did as we see today!!! Much is owed to those Jews who gave their lives then!
    As far as who were the Palestinians, the British who ran things for many, many years there in the 1800s until Israel became an independent country in 1948, referred to the Jews as Palestinians…the Arabs were, well, just the Arabs. In fact, if you look up what the Jerusalem Post was called before 1948 it was called the Palestinian Post…run by the Jews then as it is now. So I wanted to correct some of your explanation. Not exactly accurate!

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