“They’ll stop at nothing”: The very simple problem at the heart of the Israel/Gaza conflict

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It’s clear that the Middle East is a war zone, and the media has been taken avery one-sided approach in how it has told the story of the conflict. For decades, America and Israel were the closest of allies. While no one wants to see the innocent people in Gaza suffer because their leadership is dedicated to the destruction of Israel, we also have to recognize that Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself. But in the media, Israel is the bully. How did that happen? And what should the United States be doing to end this conflict, support our democratic allies, and protect the innocent people on both sides of the conflict? Caroline Glick, writer for the Jerusalem Post and author of The Israeli Solution, joined Glenn to discuss the Israel/Gaza conflict on TheBlaze TV.

“The reality is that none of the Arab conflict with Israel, the Islamic conflict with Israel, the Palestinian conflict with Israel, has ever been about territory.  It’s always been about a desire on the part of Israel’s neighbors to annihilate the Jewish state, to prevent it from even being established, you know, years ago in 1948.  And so it’s never been about land, and it’s never been about how much land Israel has,” Glick explained. “It’s just about whether or not Israel exists.”

“And so when people say oh, it’s Israel’s fault, it’s Israel’s fault only to the extent that Israel exists, no matter how large Israel is or how small Israel is.  And we see with Hamas that are willing and forcing their people really to sacrifice their own lives in order to protect Hamas missiles that are being used to barrage Israeli cities.  They’ll stop at nothing,” she continued.

“It’s not that they want to build anything.  They took the cement that they used to build the tunnels that IDF forces, Israeli military forces, have been destroying over the past several weeks, could have built 100 schools, three hospitals, numerous clinic, you know, you name it.  It was there for the taking.  They were there, they got all of this concrete in order to build Gaza.  They claimed it was for humanitarian assistance, and they used all of it to build machinery of death and murder.”

So what should the United States be doing? First and foremost, Washington needs to rethink their approach to foreign policy and willingness to push a cease-fire resulting in open borders for Gaza.

“The Obama administration since Gaza, since the Hamas terrorists who run Gaza began their current round of assaults against Israel with their missiles and with their attempted infiltration through their tunnels of death, the Obama administration has been shooting for a cease-fire that would abide by all of Hamas’s extortionist demands of Israel,” Glick said.

“And the most important demand that they have of Israel is that they want their borders opened.  Those borders have been sealed, particularly the most importantly the border with Egypt, for the past year since the Egyptian military overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood government there, because the Egyptian military understands Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood, and if they’re allowed free entryway and exit from Gaza and transport from Gaza into Egypt, then it is a strategic threat to Egypt.”

Glick urged the American people to call their congressmen and encourage them to stand with Israel and keep the borders of Gaza closed so the threats of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood can’t continue to spread.

“I think the most important thing that Americans can do is side with Israel by telling their congressmen, by telling their communities, by explaining both to one another and most importantly to their congressmen that the most important stand the United States has to take is to support Israel and Egypt in insisting on keeping Gaza’s borders closed in order to destroy Hamas through attrition, to prevent them, to starve them out, to prevent them from resupplying, to prevent them from rebuilding their infrastructure of terrorism that Israel has fought to destroy at such great cost to our soldiers over the past month,” she said.

  • jim

    So what this rant is advocating is the mass starving and punishment of the entire noncombatant civilian population of Gaza-a war crime by any definition

    • Anonymous

      No. Basically it’s saying Hamas has no interest in raising up Palestine, only in trying to push the Jews into the sea. Is it America’s fault that Hamas takes the international aid money and spends it building rockets and death tunnels instead of hospitals and schools? Cut off all aid. I don’t want my money funding Hamas, Hezbollah and other murderers.

      Oh, and no. Me refusing to give my money to someone else isn’t a “war crime”.

      • jim

        But your already funding war criminals !
        The cost of America’s relationship to Israel today adjusted for inflation is likely to be in excess of $5 trillion, or $16k per American.
        and what does Israel bring to the relationship ? Zero -Zilch-Nada !
        Not only is Israel a terrible ally, attacking America in at least two separate false flag attacks (See the lavon affair and the USS Liberty) and actively spying on America, but it it isn’t really the “only democracy in the Middle East” as the Israelis like to claim-but an apartheid state !

        • Anonymous

          If Hamas put their weapons down, there would be peace. If Israel put their weapons down, Hamas would slaughter them.

          That’s the only paradigm that matters. Israel has bent over backwards to accommodate the Islamic butchers only to be attacked time and time again with your favorite people blowing themselves up in crowded marketplaces, firing rockets into cities while hiding inside UN schools and behind civilians. All the while educating their children from the early age that Jews are descendents of pigs and drink the blood of Muslims. And you buy into it.

          Hitler called and wishes he could “up vote” your comment from hell.

          • jim

            And hearsay,Israeli “Hasbara” and unsubstantiated blood libel,s is your justification for the collective punishment of the 1.8 million civilians in Gaza- 50% of whom are children under 14 !Bravo what a fine specimen of a human being!

            No wonder the apartheid state of Israel is one of the most despised nations on earth for there continuous and egregious crimes against humanity!
            Till there is equal rights and justice for all in that tiny strip of land-I doubt there will peace anytime soon!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1ywYg2fTc

          • JohnL1313

            The Islamists have attacked Israel time and again over the past century with Israel levying only a measured response.

            The Islamists teach their children that Jews are descended from pigs, that they drink the blood of muslims. This is taught in their schools. The majority of them haven’t heard of the Holocaust and those that do the majority believe it was a lie.

            They launch rockets from schools while hiding behind women and children and useful idiots such as yourself buy their false assertion that Israel is somehow oppressing them.

            You are on the wrong side of history.

          • jim

            Tell it to the guy making the speech about Israels war crimes-His name is Gerald Kaufman he is a sitting member of the UK parliament and is Jewish himself
            It is no surprise that most survivors of the holocaust are totally against the brutal policy’s of collective punishment meted out by the zionist leadership on a largely defenseless captive population in Gaza ! After all they suffered the same treatment under the Nazi,s

      • Mark R.R.Smith

        Palestine declined their statehood in 1948

    • Johnathan Read

      By your definition maybe, but not by the majority of civilized and informed people.

      • jim

        Lol-you are most certainly in the minority-the Israeli state is one of the the most reviled and despised country,s on earth!
        Ethnic cleansing,collective punishment and a state policy of Apartheid are leading Israel down the same path as apartheid South Africa!
        No one wants anything to do with them other than the useful idiots of the evangelical persuasion(Largely dispensationalists)that are willing to ignore any and all atrocity s carried out by this lunatic state

        • Johnathan Read

          With the exception of the Muslim Kingdoms, the countries that revile Israel are ‘Failed States”, not worth a dime.

          • jim

            Lol-Europes a failed state-you sure are desperate to believe the hasbara and support mass murder !

          • Johnathan Read

            Since when did Europe become a State ? Do tell us more.

            Congratulations,you are a Poster Child for ignorance.

          • jim

            Lol-Semantics-The European union is comprised of 28 nation states -But now your clutching at straw,s-no amount of weasel words can excuse collective punishment !

          • Johnathan Read

            Call it what you want.

            I support Israel’s actions in Gaza 100 %.

            The Canadian Government supports Israel’s actions in Gaza 100 %.

            The majority of Canadians support Israel’s actions in Gaza 100 %.

          • jim

            Steven Harper is the biggest kow towing ass licker of Zionism Canada has ever seen-I very much doubt the majority of INFORMED canadians support this slaughter
            Protesters stage demonstrations in Toronto, Ottawa over Israel-Gaza conflict
            http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/protesters-stage-demonstrations-in-toronto-ottawa-over-israel-gaza-conflict-1.1933892

            Peaceful protests across Canada condemn bombing of Gaza
            http://rabble.ca/news/2014/07/peaceful-protests-across-canada-condemn-bombing-gaza

            New Democrats protest their party’s Gaza position​
            http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/31/new-democrats-protest-their-partys-gaza-position

          • Johnathan Read

            What you doubt Jim is insignificant,just as you are.

            Like Israel, Canada is a democracy and we even allow low info people to protest.

          • jim

            And where are your verifiable sources to verify what you say?
            I find it hard to believe that Bigotry is so rife in Canada that the majority would support the collective punishment of 1.8 million people
            I have provided sources -where are yours -pray tell?

          • Johnathan Read

            The only bigotry is by the anti-Semites / Islamists.

            For verifiable sources see new post.

          • jim

            Has nobody told you-that arabs are semitic too-doesnt that make you a rabid anti semite also !
            Btw the Palestinians are more than likely the descendants of Jews that converted in ages past !

          • Johnathan Read

            Now who’s using semantics?

            Move on, I am.

          • jim

            Of course your moving on-your arguments for supporting collective punishment are utterly without morals and indefensible-I am sure you are more than happy to jog on !!

      • Guest

        Cant help but notice you side stepping whether you would have supported the aftermath of the Warsaw ghetto uprising,s by collective punishment or not ?
        after all the Nazi,s made similar arguments to the one s your making in an effort to defend the indefensible!

    • landofaahs

      They suffer because of their leaders actions. Had their leaders not started launching bombs into Israel they would not have been struck back. Hamas puts their munitions in civilian areas and then they wonder why civilians suffer. But that is the typical Palestinian stinking thinking.

      • jim

        What do you not understand ?
        Collective punishment is immoral and a war crime !
        Would you have supported the Warsaw ghetto uprising massacres too ?

        • landofaahs

          What exactly does “collective punishment” mean? Does it mean collective society punishing individual bad behavior by the majority’s ethos? Or does it mean that states cannot punish a whole country for the acts of those who are it’s leaders?
          As far as your Warsaw ghetto question; I would have been for not giving up the right to defend yourself with personal arms and then the whole incident might not have been necessary to begin with. As far as the Warsaw ghettos is concerned; They are not equivalent to Gaza because the Palestinians asked for that strip of land even though they wanted the whole of Israel. Palestinians are free to leave there any time.

          • jim

            Regardless of your dispensationalist worldview(a view that is in the extreme minority worldwide I might say)
            God is NOT a real estate agent!
            Israeli apologists just love semantics and will employ all manner of mental gymnastics in an effort to defend the indefensible !
            Collective punishment is a form of retaliation whereby a suspected perpetrator’s family members, friends, acquaintances, sect, neighbours or entire ethnic group is targeted.-it is a violation of the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions.

            Israel as the de facto, occupying power have used collective punishment to retaliate against and deter attacks on their forces by e.g. destroying or targeting entire buildings(hospitals ,schools,homes for the disabled etc) and neighborhoods where such suspected attacks MAY have occurred and in the current conflict by using indiscriminate banned munitions in heavily built up urban areas also(the use of tanks as pointed out by Geraldo )

          • landofaahs

            God is not a real estate agent? Well, you do at least admit that there is a God by that statement so I guess that is an improvement. I understand why you don’t like exact definitions because someone could throw them back at you. You want to have it both ways.. Palestinians store weapons and shoot rockets from civilian areas and then when they get bombed back they complain that civilian areas were targeted. It is typical of the muslim filth of hypocrisy. But if you don’t like the defacto punishment move your Palestinian asses to Jordan. Even though they don’t want your asses there either.

          • jim

            None so blind as those who will not see Huh !
            Semantics and mental gymnastics will not change the fact that most the world condemns Israel for its use of collective punishment !Its a war crime plain and simple !

          • landofaahs

            You just can’t handle the truth. LOL

          • landofaahs

            Palestinians deserve to be expelled from the State of Israel forever.

          • Yo Mamma

            God is a real estate agent. Read Torah and see who gets what land

          • Splog

            Why? The Torah was authored by priests/scribes with a nationalisitic agenda. They could claim to have G-d’s intentions in mind, but no one will ever know.

          • Yo Mamma

            A non-believer needs throw stones at atheist websites

        • shaked

          i invite you to Israel to see how it feels to go outside and be scared of bombs , to be afraid at the bus from a suicide bomber the hamas sent or to be kidnapped and murdered when you have done nothing wrong( yes i’m talking about the 3 teenagers the hamas killed that started this all thing) its nice to be a hero in the safety of your home thousands of miles away and call yourself humanitarian without knowing the facts(you can read from propaganda web-sights all day long doesn’t make it true) its a shame that you are so obsessed to your hatred and thoughts that you cant hear nothing else…

          • jim

            Do you mean these people that are eating popcorn and having barbecues on top of sderot hill while watching the bombs drop on Palestinian children?
            they sure dont look like there quakeing in there boots to me !

  • landofaahs

    At the heart of the problem is the heart.

  • ken.

    hey glenn! obama and the democrats will stop at nothing to destroy america. if we don’t stop them the whole world will become a slaughterhouse of the innocents.

    • jim

      Gaza already is a slaughterhouse of innocents(The entire 1.8 million population of Gaza are NOT members of Hamas)!

      • Mark R.R.Smith

        Human shields used by Hamas being slaughtered by Hamas. Hamas is proud of this, they teach their children to be sacrificed in the name of Allah in UN schools.
        India TV filmed a Missile site being constructed in a residential area just outside a hotel. This was shown on CNN even! Not Fox, CNN!!!!!
        CNN!!!!!!!

        • jim

          Lol-CNN that’s your source -a rabid pro Israeli Zionist owned network!

          heres another video from indian Tv
          “Gaza nothing Short Of A Massacre”:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx2kskQzuBE

          • Mark R.R.Smith

            Are you insane? Stupid question. Of course you are. A hate filled anti-Semite follower of Allah.

            As it states in the holy Hadith:
            Sahih
            al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
            Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
            Allah’s Apostle
            said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of
            them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah
            (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.’ ”
            You are such a good Muslim.
            #not just in Hamas Charter.

          • jim

            Lol-I am about muslim as the pope-All organised religions are just the strings for the puppetmasters of the powers that be -to manipulate morons such as you!
            Israeli apologists and supporters of ethnic cleansing ,apartheid and collective punishment-will scream liar or make base false accusations when their belief systems are brought into question-how pathetic-formulate a real argument based on facts-get a brain-idiot!!!

          • Mark R.R.Smith

            So you mock the Hadith? If this feed is being monitored by Hamas or ISIS or another “group” they will know what to do.

      • Syberlink

        Who cares? You support hate and the destruction of an entire race, deal with it.

  • Yo Mamma

    “It’s always been about a desire on the part of Israel’s neighbors to annihilate the Jewish state”

    What God given right do the Jews have to claims its their land?
    None

    What God given right do the Muslims have to claims its their land?
    None

    What God given right do the Christians have to claims its their land?
    None

    What God given right do the Hebrews have to claims its their land?
    Every

    The UN messed up in giving the land to the wrong people under the wrong conditions – All out of sympathy because Europ0e has enough of the Jews.

    The Jews are nomads, they do not have a land they can call their own. Same as the Christians and Muslims.

    • jim

      The origins of the “Master Race” ideology-The misery began when a small tribe in old Judea accepted a creed based on race. The tribe had previously been expelled by the Israelites for such racism. This seemingly unimportant event has probably caused more destruction for Mankind than both the existence of explosives and epidemics. The tribe adapted the creed of the Master Race as nothing less than “The Law”.

      The Judeans were a small tribe under the Persian king. The creed of Judaism was not the beginning of monotheism, as has been propagated. Monotheism dates all the way back to The Egyptian Book of the Dead, 2.600 years b.C. and maybe even further.

      “The Law” or “The Pact” was – and is – unique in being based on a statement from a tribal god, to the effect that his “chosen people”: “the Israelites” (in reality, the Judeans) would be set above all other peoples and settled in a “promised land”, if only they would stick to all of his rules and judgement s.

      It was probably not even a pact with the Judaeans, for according to “The Holy Scripture”, the pact was made with the Israelites, who had long since mingled with the rest of Mankind, and who have never known this racist creed as far as we know. The Jewish Encyclopaedia says, that the Judeans “probably were a non-Israeli tribe”. The Israelites turned away from the racism of the Judeans. The creed has gone down in history as having been created by the Levites from Judea.

      • Yo Mamma

        “The misery began when a small tribe in old Judea accepted a creed based on race.”

        Wrong

        The misery for mankind began in Eden when mankind refused to follow a simple command/order from God Creator.

        Just as mankind was forced out of Eden so will mankind be forced off the earth.

        Thats because God Creator is not happy with the imperfect man. That is why God Creator put mankind on probation. The period has been about 3000 years since God Creator messed with mankind.

        The ‘hope’ God Creator had was that through a set of laws/rules/covenants mankind would be able to remain on earth. Those are laid out in the 5 Books of Moses/ Pentateuch / Torah.

        In this sacred text God Creator said that we must object these laws / never to add to them / never to take away from them. Obey them and love God Creator.

        In the future, God Creator said that a human will be on earth that speaks the words God Creator and Moses speaks, to warn you of your obligation. Your last warning. Those that do not listen, will be forced to or perish and suffer for all the sins of their fathers before them.

        Because no such human has since stepped on earth, be aware that if someone speaks the words of God Creator and Moses and those who are spoken to do not change to (heed) the law, and suffering and death occurs, you may have such a human to behold.

        Such a human has the backing of God Creator and because the majority of mankind do not heed the laws, major destruction will be noticed.

        • jim

          Its shameful how the Dispensationalist,s worldview is able to whitewash or ignore any and all atrocity’s committed by the Apartheid state of Israel (ironically whose zionist leadership are mainly atheists!LOL)
          God is NOT a real estate agent-the point being made is that the original despicable and racist idea of the Master race ideaology was originated by the Judeans

          • Yo Mamma

            Many Jews are atheists, but so is a growing group of non-Jews worldwide. If you do NOT believe that the 5 Books is the word of God Creator, we have little to discuss

          • jim

            You may as well believe in the flying spaghetti monster or Harry Potter in that case
            all organised religions are tools for the powers that be to manipulate the masses!
            Spirituality should be a personal thing-not something that is at the behest of self serving hierarchy’s !

          • Yo Mamma

            “flying spaghetti monster” – don’t waste my time rambling on about gods when you are an atheist – Just say that and move on

          • jim

            There you go jumping to assumptions again -all I said was I do not follow the edicts from the hierarchy,s of organised religions!
            I could counter that with asking if you will admit that you believe all Arabs are “untermenschen”

          • Yo Mamma

            Arabs subhuman? What an honor to be subhuman. To be less than human is a wonderful thing seeing that God really messed up and admits in so doing, when creating mankind.

            I would like to be anything but the disappointment I am to God. Its a harsh reality to have been born THE most disappointing creation.

          • Splog

            Concur with this. Christianity was created by the Roman empire by fusing ancient pagan myths/allegories to the life of Christ (virgin birth, December birthday, 12 disciples, resurrection, etc.). Judaism was created by Hebrew scribes & priests by fusing ancient pagan myths/allegories (creation story, flood story, exodus, baby in a basket set adrift on the nile, etc.) All common themes in ancient pagan mythology, simply borrowed/repackaged for Christianity & Judaism.

          • Darron DeSantis

            Please stop spewing forth your hateful, Satanic, lies. Truly humble yourself and honestly educate yourself on solid-, indisputable-facts, not the propaganda, slander, and urban-legends/ myths and misinformation you seem to love so much. Repent before you receive exactly what you deserve and have freely-chosen and are destroyed forever in the Afterlife or even by accident in this one, by your All-Powerful Creator. You’re certainly not perfect. Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself. You can expect the same measure of judgment on yourself that you measure out to others. A very wise and good Man once said that. You would do well and help save yourself by heeding His words.

          • jim

            You mean like the unsubstantiated and unverifiable claims you are making based on what exactly ?-some dusty old tome that has no more relevance than Harry potter !Lol
            It is not I that is so full of hate that he would condone the mass slaughter of children by advanced weaponry-It is not I that supports apartheid,ethnic cleansing and collective punishment!
            But you ! !

  • jim

    Newsweek-

    Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document

    By Jeff Stein
    http://www.newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new-snowdennsa-document-262991
    Israel was singled out in 2007 as a top espionage threat against the U.S. government, including its intelligence services, in a newly published National Security Agency (NSA) document obtained by fugitive leaker Edward Snowden, according to a news report Monday.

    The document also identified Israel, along with North Korea, Cuba and India, as a “leading threat” to the infrastructure of U.S. financial and banking institutions.

    Some ally huh !

  • lou

    Interesting that the U.N. is quoted as if it is a legitimate org.. Like any other gov. It’s sole mission is to increase its power and range of influence. If Israel is.an apartheid state then what is the rest of the middle east. Look.at a map they are a dot in the middle east. Those people called Palestinians are really descendants from other countries. The whole narrative of right of return is is excuse to keep on fighting. In 1997 they got everything they asked for except right to return but Arafat an KGB trained operative who’s from Egypt turned it down.

    • jim

      This Israeli professor of History at Tel Aviv university may beg to differ with you!
      The Invention of the Jewish People
      by Shlomo Sand
      Shlomo Sand’s intellectual bestseller-questions whether the Jewish People ever existed as a national group with a common origin in the Land of Israel/Palestine. He concludes that the Jews should be seen as a religious community comprising a mishmash of individuals and groups that had converted to the ancient monotheistic religion but do not have any historical right to establish an independent Jewish state in the Holy Land. In short, the Jewish People, according to Sand, are not really a “people” in the sense of having a common ethnic origin and national heritage. They certainly do not have a political claim over the territory that today constitutes Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, including Jerusalem.”

      • Miriam Schmidt Fairchild

        Shlomo Sand should have explained this to the Persians, Romans, Inquisitors, Crusaders, Nazis…They all targeted Jews and and must have mistaken them for People of the Land.

        • jim

          You best tell Shlomo yourself- he,s only a professor of history at Tel Aviv university-but of course you know better because- why exactly ?

          • Miriam Schmidt Fairchild

            Sand is only one person. His opinion is countered by hundreds of other researchers, historians and even the Bible. Why do you place such trust in him? Is it because you choose to agree with him and reject all evidence to the contrary.

          • jim

            Name one respectable historian that agrees with you and that doesnt have an axe to grind(Sands is an Israeli and a Zionist) !!!

          • Neil

            Josephus…

          • Yo Mamma

            Jospehus was a Priestly Hebrew that swung over to the Roman side. He is a traitor to his fellow Priests and to all those Hebrews alive at that time.

          • kktex12

            He was not a traitor but wrote the history of the Jewish people for the Roman government.

          • Yo Mamma

            They were Hebrews, not Jews that Josephus wrote about – And he help the Romans destroy the Temple, which was home to the Priests at the time and treasury.

            That loot from the Jerusalem treasury was used by the Romans to build the Colosseum in Rome.

          • Yo Mamma

            I trust him. I am another person. I read Torah and this is what it says. I trust Torah and God Creator.

          • kktex12

            But you ignore the fact that God sent His Son to pay for the sins of man and that it was prophesied in Isaiah. The rabbi’s refuse to acknowledge this prophesy. They cherry pick what they will and will not believe.

          • Yo Mamma

            And where was this mentioned in Torah? Please explain why you think your man god jesus in the man who told us to follow God Creator and NO other.

            Hmmmm, no other

            Didn’t jesus, when a man, say follow jesus.

            That would God Creator mad

            Well thats why jesus died

            Died confused no doubt asking “why”?!?

          • Reliquary

            Yes …I do believe you can find a Rabbi to agree with what ever point of view you wish to take… It does not mean that the rabbi is credible..lol. Shlomo Sand is not even worth mentioning….

          • Syberlink

            So they give people the freedom to have different opinions, this means it must be the only one?

          • jim

            If you have the scholarly work(not opinion) of a professor of history with no axe to grind that has a different conclusion(Shlomos an Israeli and a Zionist)-please share !

          • Reliquary

            Ummm can you name even one other rabbi that holds to this opinion? No i didn’t think so. You cling to Sand as though he speaks for G_D. pathetic really.

          • jim

            Since when is a Rabbi a professor of History ???
            You cant produce a single scholar with no axe to grind so you divert with some nonsense about Rabbi,s -Now that is what I call PATHETIC !
            But just for sake of it- here you go several Rabbi,s with similiar views that Zionists have no claim to the land(at least I source my claims)

            NYC: 10,000+ Jews Against Israel (U.S. Media Blackout)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQ9C6vni0w

          • Reliquary

            Ok …you insist on being and following a moron so i will try to be clear. 1) there is a Scriptural basis for the Jews having a homeland in the Holyland. But i suppose G_d is not a big enough authority for you. So 2) the World through UN Vote declared a Homeland for the Jews in the Holyland In 1948. but you go with your authority Rabbi Shlomo Sand…lol

          • jim

            I see you totally avoided addressing the words of those esteemed Rabbi,s assembled in front of 10,000 + Jews in NYC proclaiming that the Zionists have no claim to the Land of Israel/Palestine-and that the Torah expressly forbids them from returning just yet!
            As for the rest -The fact that the rights of the majority, 67% of the population, were violated is suppressed in the media. Why in the world would you think it is legitimate for 33% of a population to seize land and carve it up ? Why in the world should 67% of a population ever accept that?
            As for imaginary deity s in the sky-. I put as much stock in that dusty old tome as I would in a harry potter novel-Your having a laugh if that is the basis of your claim!

            The Exodus never happened, say Egyptologists
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPjrZWXca68

          • Yo Mamma

            ” there is a Scriptural basis for the Jews having a homeland in the Holyland.”

            Wrong

            There is a Scriptural basis for the Hebrews having a homeland in the Land of Israel, not Jews

            Jews are not Hebrews, contrary to what Christians and Jews say

          • Reliquary

            Ummmm Ok Yes you are technically correct ..and if it is important to you to be right… well then you are ….2000 years ago. Let me just say that ever since World War II They have been collectively refereed to as Jews. So you can be can be right or you be accurate so that people know what you are talking about…up to you.

          • Yo Mamma

            Torah is an eternal document. You can go call whatever you like what you think to be true, but you don’t know what is true – I do and I could care less about your mediocre opinion

          • Reliquary

            Again you are technically correct..G_d is not a Him but that is how the majority of people refer to G_d…..that is in the male pronoun . I submit to you that it is you who is blasphemous by placing yourself fin the position of G_D when you judge all others around you…. “You will be judged by the measure you use to judge others” In my mediocre opinion…lol

          • Guest

            Additionally i believe that Moshe led a mixed multitude out of Egypt to the land of Canaan (the Promised [Holy] Land} .I think it also says something about when Moshe and his subordinates judged the people that they were instructed to Judge rightly. I don’t recall Torah mentioning anything about judging barbarians. All of this is in your Precious Torah and yet you judge me incorrectly as I do not EVER call myself Christian (an assumption and false judgement on your part) And i do not pray to “gods” But to the God of Abraham Isaac and Yaakov. So again you judge me falsely. I pray that G_d would allay this spirit of arrogance and ignorance that has you. God Bless You my friend good bye

          • Reliquary

            I will pray for you and you judgmental hateful Spirit … G_d Bless you.

          • Yo Mamma

            There is no hate here and no hate in Torah and God Creator – The word doesn’t come up about God Creator hating, but those hating God Creator

            “thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me”

            Only a lack of tolerance for barbarians

            Praying is not mandated in Torah. If you want to pray and it makes you feel really good, go ahead and pray to your gods

            And to answer your other post, its not judgmental to refer to Torah. If you are to be judged by MAN it would be in an establish court of several.

            And yes, according to your Christian belief, I am blasphemous and proudly so

            “You will be judged by the measure you use to judge others” is your quote and means absolutely nothing to me because its not in Torah – lol

          • Reliquary

            I have to assume you are Moslem or Islamist of some kind so please Just leave me alone stop making stupid comments and i will leave you alone.. God Bless You.

          • kktex12

            So I guess you and your professor god cherry pick what you will and will not believe. Even though the Torah In Isaiah prophesied of the coming Messiah you refuse to accept it.

          • jim

            Tell it to this Rabbi -he believes the Torah expressly forbids a return to Israel!

            Existence of Israel contrary to Torah teachings: Rabbi Weiss

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SYMj41Q9U

          • Yo Mamma

            He has some points

          • Yo Mamma

            Isaiah is part of the Jewish religion, not the Hebrew religion, which pre-dates the Jewish religion by 1500 years

            Considering Isaiah or any of the prophets or writings or Talmud sacred, is considered blasphemy in the Hebrew religion

        • Yo Mamma

          Those were not Jews, those were Hebrews. The Jewish Talmud was created in writing 200 AD. This is the basis for their religion. The last temple was destroyed 70ad

          • Splog

            Incorrect. The basis is the Torah. The Talmud is teachings and opinions based on the Torah, written centuries after the Torah.

          • Yo Mamma

            You mean to say CORRECT, not incorrect

          • Yo Mamma

            Israeli professor of history at Tel Aviv University

            http://www.youtube.com/embed/wiA2D7n0lNw?

          • Splog

            Ask a Rabbi. He will clarify it for you.

          • Yo Mamma

            No ask me – I will clarify it for you.

            No rabbi is qualified to interpret Torah unless he is bloodline and a believer in LITERAL TORAH, which none are

          • Reliquary

            you know…being so exclusive puts you outside of any group

            of individuals…You are in a class by yourself and when you alone are the only one Qualified to interpret the Word of G_d well…you have then placed yourself above Him …unless you are also calming to be the second coming of Yeshua…which I seriously doubt you are… Shalom

          • Yo Mamma

            God is not a HIM. Nobody is above God Creator and suggesting is blasphemous.

            Like Torah says “I didn’t choose you because you were so many, but because you are so few”

            Its not a numbers game in Torah or God Creator

            The Moshiach? Speaking the Word of God Creator as spoken, is not enough

            Those that do not heed to the Word and the LAW are forced to by God Creator. Do you see that happening? Have you EVER seen that happen? No – that is why none before have been the Moshiach

            If by chance you do see people being forced into Torah, then take notes

          • kktex12

            The Jews were given the land by Creator God in an everlasting covenant with Abraham and his seed. So the Persians, ROmans, the inquisition, Crusaders, Nazis, and now the mooslims did and are attacking the Jewish people.

          • Yo Mamma

            “The Jews were given the land by Creator God in an everlasting covenant with Abraham”

            WRONG

            The HEBREWS were given the land by Creator God in an everlasting covenant with Abraham

      • Yo Mamma

        “do not have any historical right to establish an independent Jewish state in the Holy Land.” this is very true

        • kktex12

          You claim to believe God’s Word in the Torah but you refuse to accept the everlasting covenant God made with Abraham and the seed of Abraham. You lie.

          • jim

            Ignoramus -In traditional Judaism there is no injunction to “return” to the “land of Israel”. The ritual “next year in Jerusalem” that is part of the Passover Seder prayer was never a call to action, or to reconstitute a state.

          • Yo Mamma

            If I lie, then Torah lies.

            Torah doesn’t lie, you just are not equipped to understand it.

            For this reason, God understand that many people like you are not smart or loving, so God Creator CHOSE Priests to explain Torah to you.

            I am truly sorry for your inferior genes

            Torah is a progression of LAWS

            Just like mankind enjoyed the location called EDEN, because mankind disobeyed God Creator, mankind were removed from EDEN.

            You cannot claim inheritance of the Land in EDEN, because the LAW progressed.

            Same with Abraham.

            Same with the laws of the first born

            They progressed to the bloodline Priests of Aaron.

            You cannot look at Torah as a regression

      • jakobboy

        All hail the omniscient ‘jim’ whose word is law, especially with his two favorite obsessive words: Dispensationalists’ and ‘Apartheid.’ Bow low to his circular reasoning.

        • jim

          So said the hasbara supervisor- pray tell what is the wisdom of your 2 cents worth-more baseless and unsubstantiated facts and arguments in support of ethnic cleansing,apartheid and collective punishment ???
          Speak o wise one !

          • jakobboy

            O great and Majestic Internet Troll, you flatter me Your Highnes. It is known throughout the land of your quintessential jurisprudence – over and above and above any pion Hasbara , or any bearer collective knowledge or sage. Entend thy ring that we have kiss it.

          • jim

            Thus spake the Hasbara supervisor and supporter of ethnic cleansing ,apartheid and collective punishment !
            What other pearls of wisdom-will your written flatulence present ?

          • jim

            Hmm no-one seems to want to answer this simple question – Can Israel be both Jewish and democratic ?— i.e. Can a state which grants legal privileges to some and denies rights to others based on religious affiliation or descent – be considered a democracy. ?
            what say you -o flatulent one !

      • kktex12

        Shlomo sand is a fool. He doe not believe Creator God sent His Son to this world to be payment for the sins of mankind. You, jim, need to read the real historical fact about the Jewish nation starting with the 1611 King James Bible. All the new ones are satan’s perversions of God’s Word. You have a choice. Be an agent of satan or a follower of God’s Son.

        • jim

          Enough with the “American Taliban” style fanatical religious baloney-rants like that have been used to justify ethnic cleansing since time imemorial

          • Reliquary

            You are so worthy to be pitied. I feel so sorry for you and your inability see clearly, to be able to read and comprehend, and your inability to accept a free gift offered to you at absolutely no cost to yourself… You are truly a fool worthy of pity. You also recognize no authority greater then yourself, so why do you bother to comment on anything…You are your own greatest authority even though most will disagree with you. “A man convinced against his will ..is of the same opinion still. God bless you …

          • jim

            Answer me this simple question – Can Israel be both Jewish and democratic ?— i.e. Can a state which grants legal privileges to some and denies rights to others based on religious affiliation or descent – be considered a democracy. ?

      • pfiffi43

        If that would be true neither have the Palestinians. Most of them came from Arab countries, nomads who lived together in small enclaves not large build-up cities. The Israelis had to fight for land since biblical times. The Israelites had large cities with temples etc. And I doubt that the Israeli professor of Jewish History knows what he is really talking about.

  • Linda Burt

    ISRAEL IS THE HOLY LAND WE NEED TO PROTECT IT AT ALL COST

    • FiineTapestry

      Says the religious fanatic who doesn’t give a crap about the lives it costs to acquire (as if it were a product on Amazon) the supposed Holy Land, for some supposed and very important reason… which is…?

      • JohnL1313

        So the Jews should just walk themselves into the sea without a fight?

        If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be peace.
        If Israel put down their weapons, they would be slaughtered by Hamas.

        Think about that as you pray to your god-son Obama before bed tonight.

        • the_independent_truth

          We does have to remember so the country of Israel came to be. The US and a other countries came and just move the Palestinian out of a land they where living in for thousands of years. No wonder the Hamas is fighting. How would you feel if a bunch of countries get together and tell us that we have to give america back to the Native Americans, and if you not Native American you have to live along the west coast.

    • Yo Mamma

      Pfft

    • jim

      From who ?-the godless Zionists

      • kktex12

        From satan, his minions (to include you evidently), and satan’s agents of the cult of islam.

        • jim

          If anyone is from Satan -it is the supporters of collective punishment,apartheid and ethnic cleansing-that most definitely includes you !LOl

  • FiineTapestry

    Beck is war monger, and just because it suits his religious/political ideology

  • FiineTapestry

    False statement: Obama is siding with Hamas against Israel. If you believe it, you are drinking the Kool-Aid. Says Glenn about asymmetrical warfare… “It’s just the way it is…” right, the same thing ideologues say about their false truths. That’s Glenn Beck, a war-craving genocide-seeking trying to kill as many Palestinians as they can before they look too bad.

  • Guest

    This will stop when muslim mothers finally get tired of burying their children. Until then, let the blood flow. Hold on to the anger and hate. Just because it hasn’t worked yet doesn’t mean you should stop. Please feel free you get all of yourselves killed. After all, you are far more wiser than all of us.

  • Kim O

    Take a good hard look at how Islam educates their children to hate…This is a TV Educational Program to indoctrinate their babies to kill,. Wake Up America. See this video and share it with others. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10204364105643660

    • jim

      Take a look at how Israelis treat Christian children
      (or maybe because there arab Christians and “untermenschen” in your view it dont count)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ovdA1VZ-c

      • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

        I am sorry but this screams HAMAS productions and it would not be the first time as well.

        • Yo Mamma

          Connor seriously

        • jim

          cognitive dissonance strikes again !

      • Syberlink

        So you see nothing and trust what a Palestine child who is taught hate and how to manipulate the media? Really? More likely the the boys hit her with a rock to blame Israel.

  • hockeynut43

    This will stop when muslim mothers finally get tired of burying their
    children. Until then, let the blood flow. Hold on to the anger and hate.
    Just because it hasn’t worked yet doesn’t mean you should stop. Please
    feel free to get all of yourselves killed. After all, you are far more
    wiser than all of us.

    • the_independent_truth

      WOW, an we call Muslim terrorist.

      • hockeynut43

        Excuse me? The point is simple: I’ve gone past the point of caring for people who don’t care about themselves. Palestinians allow themselves to be used like toilet paper by groups like Hamas who care even less about them than the Palestinians themselves do. Maybe, just maybe, if enough Palestinians are killed, they will finally say: “Enough! You have promised and told us for many years that you would drive Israel into the sea. You have lied to us over and over again. Leave. We will take up arms and fight against you”. If that is what it takes, so be it.

        Side note: Watching the other Arabs moving with the compassion of Allah to help those Palestinians get out of the war zone, giving food, water, and medical assistance (meaning the lack thereof) really makes it hard for me to take them seriously.

        • the_independent_truth

          Oh yea like we are doing?

        • the_independent_truth

          lol, you really don’t have a clue what’s going on over there. Both sides are completely wrong. If you think this situation is happening because of Hamas you need to go back and study the history of that region.

  • walkintruth

    America does not want to see what will happen if we go against Israel who has a covenant with God. We are already in danger.

    • the_independent_truth

      What would happen?

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    But Israel is the evil one. Yeah right.

  • highpriestess

    the fake ass Khazars printed up stories every year while in Russia and Germany and declared from 1918 to 1935 that 6 millions jews were slaughtered…they repeated this lie first in 1918 then 1920 1921 1925 1930 and 1935 ad nauseum they lied to the world…all this because these fake jews wanted to steal Isra Hell….and Rothschild went into Palestine when it became a British colony and paid the british for the land…land the british never owned, land that was owned by Palestinians who are the original jews, who never left, who only changed religion…thier dna is still the same, Israel is an illegal state and should be nuked off the face of the earth along with all of it’s synogogues of satan

  • Johnathan Read
    • jim

      I would say nice try -but its rather pathetic actually !
      This is utter rubbish and proves nothing-this post does NOT show that the majority of Canadians support collective punishment !
      All it shows is the support of the zionist ass licking Govt of Steven Harper for more Shekels in their greedy little pockets !!!