UPDATED: New details emerge in Ferguson shooting that paint a very different picture of what transpired

UPDATE 3:30pm: Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson is now telling reporters the police officer who fatally shot Brown did not know that he was a suspect in a convenience store robbery. Jackson said the officer stopped Brown because he was walking down the street and blocking traffic.

This is a developing story. TheBlaze will have further updates as they become available HERE.

Below is the original story:

Nearly a week after the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, authorities released the name of the police officer that shot and killed Brown Friday morning. But that wasn’t the only information divulged. As it turns out, Brown not only fit the description of the individual suspected of robbing a convenience store moments before the shooting, surveillance video seems to prove Brown was, in fact, the suspect.

Editor’s Note: Glenn has chosen not to disclose the name of the officer that shot Brown on this website

TheBlaze reports:

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said [the officer] was dispatched to investigate a “strong-arm” robbery at a convenience store shortly before his encounter with Brown, 18, on Saturday.

An incident report said Brown and another man, Dorian Johnson, were suspected of taking a box of cigars from the store. Police say surveillance camera footage shows Brown towering over the clerk in a confrontation.

Police said [the officer] encountered Brown minutes after the 911 call reporting the robbery. Police had previously said Brown was shot multiple times after an officer encountered him and another man.

Huffington Post reporter Ryan J. Reilly tweeted a photo of still shots taken from the convenience store security camera that appear to show Brown assaulting the clerk:

According to TheBlaze, conflicting stories have emerged about whether Brown and the other man physically assaulted the officer before he was shot and killed, or if Brown was on the run when he was shot.

Needless to say, this new information changes the narrative of the conversation surrounding Brown’s death. While Brown should not have lost is life, the evidence now seems to suggest the 18-year-old did commit a crime.

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  • soybomb315

    Sorry Glenn, you are once again missing the boat. Just like you did with Cliven Bundy, you are getting caught up in the individual and ignoring the elephant in the room. The militarization of police and the tactics used to control the population are getting worse and worse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_icVWKO4_o

    • expelled americans

      Soybomb315. yes, but you are missing the elephant in the room. People aren’t rioting because of the militarization of the police. They are rioting because idiot liberals think an innocent black man got shot. What you are showing, is a different story altogether. One that needs to be shared, but not while ignoring the what made this story national news.

    • Michael Rice

      That is an issue, but a separate one. The issue he is speaking to is the instant assumption that the shooting was unjustified and racially motivated.

      • Gregory Downey

        I don’t for one second think it was racially motivated. I think the cop’s pride was hurt and he was gonna show that punk what was up.

    • SamYouElJackson

      That guy literally sounded mentally ill trying to do that interview with the reports. While we can all agree the BLM went overboard with the militarization of the Bundy institute, in Ferguson there was no control. Hood-rats and thugs were breaking in and destroying business’ NOT for justice, but to still liquor and smokes.

      No one wanted justice who was destroying buildings, private property, and innocent peoples livelihood. They were merely looking for a reason, to act out in the only nature they know how to, and finally had an excuse to.

      I like how there is a hashtag “HandsUpDontShoot but the eye-witness even argues the man, because he was a man, fought with the cop until the officer drew his weapon.

      I guess you could careless about the fact he was a match for the suspect who attacked a store worker and stole items, and could have been possibly armed.

      • Gregory Downey

        Since you too are missing the point: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
        stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
        tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
        the evidence is CLEAR – 3 winesses worth who had no previous
        corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
        then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
        stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
        ambulance.

    • Scott Boufford

      The issue here is the now apparently incorrect assumption the kid was shot for walking while black. Race baiting to divide us is far more dangerous to us currently than militarization of local police. We can tackle that issue separately. Let’s not confuse the problems here.

    • EspressoME

      The officer claims that Michael Brown entered into his car and a scuffle ensued–and a shot was fired inside the car. So, that said, if the shooting was not called in immediately, could it be that if there was a scuffle INSIDE the car, the officer’s communications were down as a result of the scuffle? I personally think that the INVESTIGATION needs to proceed forward to weed out fact from the fiction. As far as it being fair, it’s in the hands of the FBI–I have no reason to question any ulterior motivation on the part of the FBI. As far as Anonymous is concerned, their running interference could plausibly jeopardize a fair trial and they need to stay out of the situation. As it is–they put a poor lady in harm’s way for no reason at all.

    • John

      I agree with you, in a way. But in another way, a community is going to get the kind of police force it deserves. The people of a community must lead. The police will not lead. They react to their environment. The people, it always goes back to the people. But I do agree with you, the militarization of our police forces is not a good thing at all.

      • Dons621

        The cops got their hardware at bargain basement prices. WHY— because there will be MORE riots as Obama pulls more of his DESTRUCTIVE tricks, and if some one takes a shot at him all hell will break lose and the cops will need every bit of their RIOT CONTROL EQUIPMENT.!!!

  • Kathy golden

    Finally, the truth comes out. Not such a sterling character after all.

    • Gregory Downey

      Brown’s character is irrelevant to the shooting case. Get a clue. I am as conservative as they come. But I can smell a rat when a rat is involved. That cop was a C.S. rat with an axe to grind.

      • carlenefrazierwendel

        And with what did this punk hold up the store with? His finger??? Makes one wonder if there were two weapons involved…

        • kuhnkat

          don’t you think the police would have mentioned the suspect was armed if they could have? Or do we believe the police always suppress evidence derogatory to the perp??

          • kevin emry

            he was armed he had 2 arms with fists so did his accomplice
            he two of them answered the description of the men who had just robbed a store

          • Gregory Downey

            He was shot in the back and then 7 more times when he demonstrated he was A. Unarmed and B. posed no threat. Is that justified in your pea brain?

          • jimbo

            That info would have been plastered ALL over the interwebs in minutes IF such was true in order to give internet executioners the full go ahead to HANG this boy from the nearest tree! For a very simple 7 minute altercation how can it take DAYS to interrogate the “officer” and get the facts out to the public? Where is that Obama transparency now? All of this rioting and looting would probably not have happened IF the police chief just came forward and told the truth BUT as we all know the longer we wait the more hiding of the truth there is so as to lawyer up and find any and every angle to “protect our man in Blue”.

        • overit

          Hell, it looks like all he needed was intimidation. The guy as huge.

        • Gregory Downey

          His size…. Or can you not read either? AGAIN since you missed it:

          The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
          stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
          tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
          the evidence is CLEAR – 3 winesses worth who had no previous
          corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
          then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
          stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
          ambulance.

          • overit

            Gregory, you’re out of touch with the subject. The officer was on another call when the robbery call came in. He stopped Brown because of the description. Sorry, but I just can’t grasp the idea of a six-year officer gunning down a man that was just “walking down the street”. Let’s let the investigation run it course. BTW, there is also forensic evidence that the gun was discharged in the officer’s vehicle…

          • Gregory Downey

            No one said the cop gunned someone down who was just WALKING DOWN THE STREET. Freaking read man. read. The first shot is still in debate. It very well could have bnen justified. But shooting him in the back when he was fleeing, then seven more times when he turned around with his hands up – that is completely unjustified. THAT is the issue here. Period.

          • gordo

            At least Gregory didn’t accuse you of being illiterate guest..

          • Duke-Jinx

            REALLY !! You seem to be the knucklehead that can’t read…or don’t want to !
            He IS the suspect that fit the description of a nearby Strong Armed robbery that was reported 10 minutes prior, via a 911 call.
            Then he assaulted the cop.. whom was admitted for medical treatment. THAT, permits the use of deadly force. Note the deadly part.

            There is No such thing as ‘Excessive’ Deadly Force…

          • Gregory Downey

            You still can’t freakin’ read. It’s people like you who keep Idiots in government on both sides. AGAIN THE FACTS ARE – The police chief stated that the officer had no idea Brown was a suspect in the robbery. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
            tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But the evidence is CLEAR – 3 winesses worth who had no previous
            corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
            then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
            stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
            ambulance.

          • Duke-Jinx
          • Gregory Downey

            3 separate witnesses have come forth and separately gave the same story. He was shot in the back as he was running away and he was shot several more times when he turned around with his hands up and was showing that he was unarmed.. THAT is the issue here. The reason for the stop, the altercation, first shot, whatever, none of that is the issue here. The issue is the use of excessive force.

          • Duke-Jinx

            Rite… were they by chance his accomplices ?? With motif to Lie ?? You heard what the cops told his friend… The guy was running at him. Notice in the video, he even goes back after the store clerk… That’s called ‘history’,
            Watch !

            And understand… I think militarized cops have gone from protect and serve.. to a work around to the Posse Comitatus Act 18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152)
            …and bet… I’ve been in more shoot-outs than you have posts on here.

          • armadillarodeo

            Black scum bags

          • Gregory Downey

            Wow.. Now that is intelligence there…

          • dmsday

            Gregory, what difference does it make if the cop didn’t know he was the perp? The cop did know that Brown fit the description of the perp, and what difference does it make why the cop stopped him for walking in the street? It doesn’t even matter what the chief said, the cop knew he fit the description, so he certainly had an inkling of a clue that it was possible the Brown was the perp.

          • Gregory Downey

            Excactly. It makes no difference. None of that is even the point fo the story. The point is that 3 separate witnesses have come forth and separately gave the same story.
            He was shot in the back as he was running away and he was shot several
            more times when he turned around with his hands up and was showing that
            he was unarmed.. THAT is the issue here. The reason for the stop, the
            altercation, first shot, whatever, none of that is the issue here. The
            issue is the use of excessive force.

          • dmsday

            look at the autopsy drawing, he was not shot in the back, so the “he was shot in the back, as he was running away”, is now debunked. It also supports the allegation he was moving towards the officer, as ALL of the shots came from the front. So, what is your issue now? Given the report of injuries of the officer, it is quite possible the office couldn’t see, his depth perception would certainly be altered, might not have been able to tell, that he was hitting him. Three shots in the are in the arm, so I doubt seriously his arms were “raised”. They might have flailing, but doubt seriously, they were not “raised”. Apparently it took six to stop him.

            http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0

          • bosox2029

            Brown himself had no idea himself why he was being stopped either but it’s safe to assume since he JUST robbed a convince store that he thought he was being confronted for that crime. He was in fight or flight mode.

          • Duke-Jinx
          • http://www.cfact.com Windy

            “Witnesses” has been misspelled multiple times as “winesses’…

          • Gregory Downey

            excuse my haste… Can I get a Witness?

          • jimbo

            Most sheeple just can not seem to read well these days YET play internet executioner while never attended college themselves BUT execute Brown on the streets cuzz he ain’t no college bound kid. The two brain cells must be struggling like crazy today from most of these commenters…and WE wonder why America got hoodwinked into another 4 years of the Muslim in Chief SMH!!

          • Duke-Jinx

            Below is a partial transcript of the
            conversation that is also found on several sites. Note PARTIAL…so,
            make sure and listen to the whole thing. Its only 6 minutes or so.
            Here’s
            a partial transcript, care of the Gateway Pundit:

            “He
            pulled up ahead of them. And then he got a call-in that there was a strong-arm
            robbery. And, they gave a description. And, he’s looking at them and they
            got something in their hands and it looks like it could be what, you know those
            cigars or whatever. So he goes in reverse back to them. Tries to get out of his
            car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael did. And, then
            he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up.

            And then Michael just
            bum-rushes him and shoves him back into his car. Punches him in the face and
            them Darren grabs for his gun. Michael grabbed for the gun. At one
            point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away.
            And the gun goes off.

            Well,
            then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s
            first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!”
            Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the
            sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full
            speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept
            coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”

          • spicymeatball

            A dangerous criminal that is arrogant enough to attack a cop while fleeing a violent altercation deserves to be taken down if they don’t stop and comply to the officer. It’s their job to protect us. You probably think if he broke into your house you should ask him nicely to leave before shooting him.

          • powderdrywpnoiled

            Stop and comply? Why when you know brother Al will come running to your defense. My response to anyone who would break into my house is “I’ll give you all the lead I have but please don’t hurt me!”

          • Gregory Downey

            Ummmm you’re wrong. Cops cannot shoot for non-compliance. Maybe you need to move to Russia or North Korea…

          • Duke-Jinx

            NO… But they can when you assault them !!

          • Gregory Downey

            Not when the perp is retreating and all threat has ended.
            The cop shot him once. the conflict ended. the cop went wrong when he shot Brown in the back and then continued to shoot when browns hands were up and there wasn’t a threat.

          • Duke-Jinx

            And you get that statement from where ?? His crime partner !!!…What if he was running AT him with his hands in the air like others have said ???
            http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/08/surveillance-video-picture-didnt-show-michael-brown-goes-gangsta/

            Yep…Looks like a real nice ‘kid’ to me :/ Note the same crime partner in the background.. i.e. The Witness !!!

            BTW… the cigars are used to make ‘Blunts’

          • Duke-Jinx

            You need to forgo the continued BS…
            Eye witness account starts at 6:28:

            #1 How’d he get from there to there?

            #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

            {crosstalk}

            #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

            {crosstalk}

            #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus – the police had his gun drawn already on him –

            #1. Oh, the police got his gun

            #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

            Read more: The Conservative Treehouse

            Read
            more at
            http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/new-evidence-eye-witness-mike-brown-shooting-states-brown-doubled-back-toward-police/#BjujHt8uUKo3pcTs.99

          • Duke-Jinx

            “the cop went wrong when he shot Brown in the back ”

            Private Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Shot From The Front

            Feeling stupid yet ??? SO much for all your boneheaded ‘know it all’ ERRONEOUS statements…..

          • powderdrywpnoiled

            Mercy the same petty thug wouldk deny their own victims ?

          • Gregory Downey

            It is against the law to shoot a fleeing suspect. Then to shoot 7 mote times when there is no imminent threat – that is murder. Get a freakin’ clue. I cannot beleive the crap I am reading here form you people. You’re all closet victims with some axe to grind… Your demands for justice will certainly reap justice before your maker. You really aught to be more careful. You can only expect forgiveness if you are willing to forgive.

          • powderdrywpnoiled

            And what about the attack in the vehicle that is verified? We’ll see what the autopsy has to say about the “7shots”. I have never been accused of believing the hype from the main stream Media and the race baitters outright.

          • Gregory Downey

            AGAIN… The first shot may have been justified. But not the shot in the back and then the next 6 or 7…. It’s no different if a home invader is fleeing your property. You cannot shoot them once the threat has ended.

          • Renee Risk

            3 winesses worth who had no previous
            corroboration-WHAT!

          • Gregory Downey

            it’s a figure of speech. 3 witnesses worth. correction: collaboration. I was typing in haste.

        • ANTHONY CLIFFORD

          He committed a strong arm robbery. It means robbing a place by using your physical strength to overpower the rightful owner of a piece of property. So there were in fact two weapons. His hands. A weapon in this kids hands wouldn’t be necessary for him to kill a man. He weighed over 300 LBS.

          Now I don’t know if this man was murdered or not, but the man already had one violent altercation, so it stands to reason that he could have another. Even this hypothesis is pure speculation. We need to wait for the official findings before we declare a regrettable homicide to be a murder.

          • Gregory Downey

            firing 8 more shots – one to the back while he was retreating then 7 more when he turned around and demonstrated he was unarmed – that’s murder. 2nd degree murder at least…

          • ANTHONY CLIFFORD

            We don’t know that happened. It might have been, and this is being investigated. They didn’t put out the coroner’s report yet. Brown’s friend is saying 8 shots. Lets wait for the whole truth. Eric Holder is all over this. Do you honestly think that the Justice Department will allow a municipal police force to get away with sweeping this under the rug? Lets just be calm and rational.

            The beauty of our justice system is that it is detached from the emotions which are running hot. Remember that we hire people to investigate these things so logic and reason win out over passion and vengeance.

          • Malka Schwartz

            How can anybody trust Eric Holder? He sees what he wants to see and ignores what he will ignore. He’s an activist and his department should be known as the unjustice dept.

          • ANTHONY CLIFFORD

            Exactly why if the cop is a murderer, he won’t go free.

          • Gregory Downey

            According to 3 eye witnesses we DO know what happened.

        • kennethwbaguley

          He assaulted the clerk. Like he did the officer.

      • kennethwbaguley

        Yeah just ignore the facts, your mind is already made up.

        • Gregory Downey

          What FACTS??? So he robbed the store. The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But the evidence is CLEAR – 3 winesses worth who had no previous corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated, then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an ambulance.

          • Gregory Downey

            It’s no wonder the idiots in the republican party are impotent to get the leftist progressives out of office. You’re as emotional about the issues as they are on the left. THINK PEOPLE THINK!!!!!

          • spicymeatball

            These 2 boys fleeing from a serious crime and attacking an officer and resisting arrest changes this story dramatically. If you don’t get that then you’re an idiot. The only thing that is suspect is the delay of communication and the details surrounding the injury to the officer and if there was apb out these boys. Regardless it shows these boys as operating as fugitives and the mentality that may lead to shoving a cop to save your own butt.

          • Denna Freed

            Yes. Putting emotions aside and thinking would be a GOOD thing – for all sides! Gregory, you have already made up your mind that the cop was in the wrong, without knowing all of the details – while others have made up their minds that Brown was wrong without knowing all of the details.

            Logically speaking –

            1) The cop, whether or not he was dispatched, would have heard the call go out over the radio.
            2) Who are the witnesses? Was one of them the “friend” he was with? If so, was the friend with him when he robbed he store? Perhaps outside the building keeping an eye out? (I say this because they are together just minutes after the store was robbed – seems reasonable that the friend could have been a lookout.) And IF that was the case, the friend would certainly have reason to lie.
            3) And the other witnesses? Were they simply bystanders? Friends? Family?
            4) Was Brown under the influence of drugs? Cigars are often used as “blunts” to pack marijuana and even “spice” or “bathsalts” in. Was there a tox report and was he under the influence?
            5) It is obvious from the stills taken in the shop he robbed that he used his size to bully and intimidate the clerk. It would not be unreasonable to consider the possibility that he may have attempted to do the same with the officer.
            6) This is a possible scenario, given the facts that we do know:
            The officer hears the call go out over the radio. He sees Brown and Johnson walking down the center of the road, blocking traffic. He makes the stop and tells them to get on the sidewalk. While making the stop he realizes that Brown fits the description of the person who just robbed a store. He decides to detain them. There is an altercation, whether Brown hit the officer, pushed him, or WHATEVER happened. Brown runs, the officer shoots, Brown’s back is to the officer, he starts to turn the officer cannot see if Brown has a weapon in his hand, probably calls a warning, and Brown continues so the officer shoots.
            7) That is ONE possible scenario in which the officer would be justified. I am sure I could think of more – but it would be pure SPECULATION until all of the facts are known. Just as the folks who assume that it was a wrongful death are ASSUMING until all of the facts are known.

          • overit

            No, Gregory – you think. Please? There is no reason to bring politics into the subject at hand. As Kenneth stated, let’s wait till the investigation is complete before trashing each other. Geez…

          • kennethwbaguley

            He was walking in the street and answered the description of the robbery suspect and from the video is verified to be the suspect. He also assaulted the officer injuring him. Have you ever heard of witnesses who lie? Let’s wait ’til all the facts come out…Then you can make an intelligent, meaningful decision…No, you want to kill the cop first. No?

          • Gregory Downey

            The facts are out – 3 separate witnesses say the cop shot him a second time in the back as he fled, then 7 times as he turned around to show he as unarmed.. Those are now FACTS in the investigation.

          • kevin emry

            facts he-they answered the robbers discrpton down to the swisher sweets in their mouths

          • Gregory Downey

            that is justification to shoot a fleeing person in the back? then 7 more times in the front when his hands were up? Okay. If you say so…

        • Ken

          News reporters ignore the facts all the time – why should we be any different?

          • kennethwbaguley

            Because truth is reason and truth is who Jesus Christ is…He said, I am the truth and the life/light?

      • xingqin

        bull shit—the cop had every right to shoot the kid if he resisted arrest or tried to take the officers gun. If that would have been a black officer and white kid shot the story would never have gone national…just another excuse for racist blacks to raise hell

        • Maggie Johanna Paulson

          so sad but true

        • Gregory Downey

          Have you even followed the freakin’ story AT ALL?

          It’s too soon too tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But the evidence is CLEAR – 3 winesses worth who had no previous
          corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated, then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an ambulance.

          • gordo

            I see you copied & pasted this reply in response to my comment Gregory. Except, you didn’t accuse xingqin of being illiterate. lol

          • Gregory Downey

            Even idiots can learn through repetition.

          • xingqin

            He robbed a store and then was stupid enough to go for the police officers gun. He died and deserved to die and I doubt the police officer shot him as he was tring to surrender but if he did the kid was not an innocent trouble free teen who was just picked on. When you cross the line, their are consequences to pay

          • Gregory Downey

            Your opinions and judgements don’t cancel out the rule of law there tough guy… I hear North Korea is nice this time of year.

        • Gregory Downey

          If you think resisting arrest gives cops the right to shoot a suspect, you have a freakin’ mental disorder. Going for the cops gun isn’t even justification for lethal force. You sir are a freaking buffoon…

          • CelticValor

            Your are an racist- seeing the name Xingqin and making that North Korea remark. You will probably claim it was a political remark not a racial one, but like your liberal media I choose to act on emotion instead of common sense. And, “going for the cops gun isn’t even justification for lethal force”? You must be a Hamas follower with thinking like that. Thank God the real Israeli’s don’t use that logic. Sir, if you try to take any weapon from me, that could kill me, I wouldn’t hesitate to end your life. To use your smartass remark to Xingqin, “You sir are a freaking buffoon…”

      • mikifenn

        People often preface their remarks with “I am a conservative” when they want to say something that is anything but conservative. It seems to be a trend.

      • Zojja

        How can you or anyone make a judgment when all of the facts aren’t even presented yet? That is why they have investigations. So facts can be gathered and evidence produced to reach a final decision.

        • bosox2029

          Cause if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, guess what, it’s a freakin duck!

      • kjenkinsaf

        Not sure what C.S. stands for. Please expand the acronym. But the phrase “with an axe to grind” leads me to think prejudice. What is the evidence of such a claim? Is it because the cop was white and the victim black? Or the cop small and the suspect (good little boy) huge? If this kid exhibited any of the behavior from the tape with the cop, it was a justified shoot.

        • ANTHONY CLIFFORD

          C.S. rat stands for rooster sucking rat.

        • Gregory Downey

          His axe to grind was that he had gotten roughed up and now he was gonna make the punk pay. Is it really that hard? He shot the kid when he was running away then 7 more times when he turned around with his hands up. 3 separate witnesses gave the same story.

          • jimbo

            I’m sure the “officer” didn’t count on witnesses that saw the whole thing! WHOOOPSY!

      • ANTHONY CLIFFORD

        Brown’s state of mind could be relevant to how he reacted to the police officer. If he committed a crime minutes earlier, it stands to reason that he might be belligerent to a cop who confronts him about another behavior. I don’t know what happened and neither do you. I think I will wait until the official investigation is done before I make my conclusion.

      • Mark Vollrath

        Yep, Facts don’t matter right …….Fool.

      • Sal

        Last year about 390 civilians were killed by a policeman, at the same time about 180 policemen were killed by a civilian. Do you wish that more policemen should be killed so things would be more even? Please compare the statistics and see how many black have been killed by their own black population and no one has ever made any complaint.

      • Bubba66

        Brown was a giant azzhole. All 6’4″ and 400 lbs of him.

    • kennethwbaguley

      Neither was Trayvon

      • Casmige

        You mean St. Trey-B-Gone….

        • kennethwbaguley

          Yes…They never tell the part where Trayvon ran off while Zimmerman walked between the apartments to get the address to be exact in telling the officers where he was, only to come back to his vehicle where Trayvon was lying in wait and confronted and assaulted Zimmerman and tried to bash his head in on the cement sidewalk…He yelled for help, none came so he used the force necessary…All within his rights.

          • Maggielovesamerica

            Kenneth you are 100% spot on.

          • me1952

            You know this for a fact…how? Because GZ said so?
            Why would Trayvon run away at all? Why not just confront GZ when he was allegedly hunting for addresses?

          • kennethwbaguley

            Who knows what goes through a drug user’s head? It was dumb for him to be out in the rain and taking much too long to get home where he should have been.

          • me1952

            Irrelevant. We don’t shoot people for walking in the rain or taking extra time to get home.

          • kennethwbaguley

            You’re right we don’t do that unless we’re assaulted and our heads are being slammed into the concrete, yelling for help and when no one comes, we use the reasonable and necessary force to overcome the assault and battery on our person…What would you do if you were lying on the ground with your head bouncing off the sidewalk? Smile and ask him to stop? Trayvon told Zimmerman he was going to kill him… and yes, I believe Zimmerman.

          • me1952

            His head was “slammed on concrete” yet he didn’t have a concussion, skull x-rays, or even a CAT scan. The man could stand right up and function normally. Paramedics and his doctor weren’t concerned about a head injury? I’ve been in the medical area long enough to know that’s a load of crap. His injuries were more consistent with being knocked to the ground with a punch in the face. This is why NW advises no confrontations or following. You may place yourself in a very dangerous situation.
            Now tell me, what might you do if you were suddenly confronted by the person who’s following you on a dark empty street?

          • kennethwbaguley

            I’d get my ass home. Have a good night…

          • me1952

            You’re assuming your stalker would let you. You have seconds to make decision and any one could be fatal. Do you flee and risk him pulling a gun on you? Do you deck him? Well, you have split seconds to decide, what do you do?
            BTW TM was on his way home, talking on the phone to his friend, obviously he was frightened, when suddenly his friend heard him ask someone why he was following him(TM). After that the phone went dead and TM was dead moments later.
            He was trying to get AWAY from GZ. Why on earth would he make it to safety, then turn around and hunt the guy down?
            Doesn’t make a lot of sense does it?

          • kennethwbaguley

            You don’t make sense because you’re not aware of all the facts.

          • Tem888

            And you do?

          • Pam Dunn

            Buzz off you ignorant bozo.

          • me1952

            Why don’t you prove what I’m saying is wrong?

          • Pam Dunn

            GO READ THE TRAIL Information and Police report moron. It IS apparent you have done neither at this time and demanding others explain and post it all for you shows that you are totally ignorant.

          • me1952

            Sandbox time is over Pam.

          • really?

            the court and jury already has tiger! what a shocker. after msnbc and cnn got everyone so riled up about this inhumanity, A JURY ANNOUNCED THAT GZ WAS NOT GUILTY! done, over. its tragic, but that’s why you keep your hands to yourself!

          • me1952

            No, that’s why you don’t play cop. Then you don’t get into situations over your head where someone, including yourself, can end up dead.

          • jalina susan stutte

            It’s because of liberals like you that this crap goes on with excuses for the criminals. I say shoot them and they won’t be preying on the innocent anymore.

          • me1952

            I’m Tea Party. Who was following who on a dark empty street carrying a gun?

          • Pam Dunn

            BULL SHIITE in large stinking piles; You voted OBAMA 6 or seven times.

          • me1952

            You really need to lay off the Jack Daniels.

          • Jan_in_NH

            Rachael said HE WAS HOME. Get it? HOME. All he had to do was go inside. But you don’t want the facts.

          • me1952

            Home means what? He’s at the front door, he’s a few doors or a block away? Suddenly there were the sounds of a confrontation and the phone went dead.
            You don’t seem to want the facts.

          • Pam Dunn

            You are so IGNORANT and lacking in brains that YOU fail to make any sense at all and OBVIOUSLY failed to read the police reports and TRIAL information. No go crawl back into your outhouse of ignorance and stupidity and go away.

          • me1952

            Time to get out of the sandbox Pam.

          • Jeff

            Talking to his friend, that cracked up black girl that broke on the stand and told 3 different stories? The one that her and TM were calling crazy ass cracker? No, that’s not a racial term at all…

          • me1952

            She was a 19 year old girl testifying in a major televised murder trial. Do you think she may have been a little unnerved? She’s the last one to speak to the victim moments before he is killed.
            If you were being followed on a dark empty street, is it likely you might use some racial or ethnic slurs?

          • Jeff

            And exactly how long did she need to get her story straight, because apperently she wasn’t ready even after all the assumed “coaching” from lawyers?

          • me1952

            Her account of talking to TM was verified by phone records.
            When I was twice her age, even with a lot of coaching, I was scared stiff in the witness chair, and flubbed plenty, despite coaching and the fact it was hardly a televised murder trial.

          • Jeff

            I know the cell phone records were verified, what is your point? She still told 3 different accounts of what happened as she was on the witness stand and contradicted herself uncredible.

          • me1952

            The records verify she was indeed talking to him and the phone suddenly went dead.
            Now stop and think, GZ tells police he lost sight of TM. TM is obviously trying to get away from GZ. Why didn’t TM just confront him from the beginning if he was looking for a fight? Also, if you are frightened enough to flee a situation, such as being stalked on a dark empty street, do you reach safety and then go look for the guy…unarmed?
            GZ played cop, got in over his head, and went into a CYA mode. Is he a killer? No. Did he intend to kill anyone? No.
            Did he exercise very bad judgment and find himself in a very dangerous situation as a result? Yes

          • Jeff

            Was he found not guilty…yes! Case closed, bad judgements in both faults, but it’s over now just as Brown’s case will be soon.

          • me1952

            Like I said, so was OJ. Being found “not guilty” isn’t being declared innocent.
            Bad judgment on TM’s part? He’s not the one who picked up a gun and followed someone.

          • Co

            Wait.. so now you have to be beaten to a pulp before you can defend yourself? Maybe he didnt have a concussion because GZ stopped the beating before it got to that point. Im sorry.. If im in a situation like this.. I’m looking out for myself and not going to sit there and say.. OK.. well i dont have a concussion yet so I’ll just let him beat me a little more before I try to defend myself. Why dont these punk kids get off the damn streets and find something productive to do anyway? And neither of them looked like teenagers what so ever. They were both a lot bigger than both GZ and this police officer. To sit here and say neither had the right to defend themselves is so ignorant! Nobody knows what happened in Furgeson but the media needs to stop making these thug jerks into innocent little kids! This guy was huge, looked threatening, had just robbed a store.. and the officer is supposed to automatically assume he’s not going to go after him or he’s unarmed? How would the cop even know that if this kids supposedly disobeyed his orders and went after him? You’re all snappy when others are quick to judge yet you do the same thing for the other side.

          • me1952

            Excuse me, but didn’t GZ claim he was being beaten to a pulp? His head was being “smashed on cement”. Well, then there should be some very serious concern about a concussion, skull fracture, or intracranial bleed. He didn’t have so much as a concussion and no one, including paramedics and his doctor, had any concern about a head injury? I find that very peculiar.
            Also, if GZ had let the police do their job, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
            Why should TM get off the street? He was walking home, to his father’s friend’s house. He was committing no crime and posing no threat to anyone. Who picked up a gun and followed who? What TM looked like is irrelevant. That’s why you don’t play cop and follow someone, you may get in over your head as GZ did, and then had to cover his butt.
            As for Ferguson, the only thing that matters is what crime he in fact committed, not what he looks like or how he acts. The fact someone looks and “acts” like a thug proves nothing.
            I’m old enough to remember the “greasers”, who were the hoodlum wannabes of the 1950s and 60s. One of them was my brother who became a police officer with a long and distinguished career.

          • markvindenver

            yer screwed by your thoughts and thought process you cant be honest can you?

          • me1952

            I see you have some problem with spelling and sentence formation. No surprise there.

          • James

            TROLL

          • TSpur

            you cannot be serious, but if you are and choose to ignore the obvious more thugs will be killed by good people because we’re tired of it. You can stick your head in the sand all you want but as soon as one of these thugs comes near me or my family I will shoot first and ask questions later. TM and now MB were thugs, punk kids that thought they didn’t have to answer to any one or anything and are now dead. NEXT!!!,

          • Michael Stohler

            @me1952, man you really want GZ to be guilty on this. You repeat insignificant info claiming it proves he is guilty all the while ignoring the facts. You say “who had a gun and followed who?” but you ignore who was in was trespassing in gated community. You claim GZ didn’t look beaten, but their are pictures all over the internet that show other wise. Yo ignore that before the race baiters stepped in with their usual propaganda that the Sanford PD too GZ into custody questioned him and other witnesses and then released him. It is pathetic.

            And I am calling you out. I believe YOU are a liar, I do not believe you are a member of the tea party. There is no way a member of the tea party would make a point about the legal carry of a hand gun.

          • me1952

            No, I’m just interested in the facts. I don’t believe GZ is a killer or ever intended to kill. He learned the hard way that playing cop can get one in waaaaay over their head. Let it be a lesson learned.
            TM wasn’t trespassing, he was staying at the home of a resident of that community.
            I’ve seen his wounds and the fact he had no follow up testing or care for head injury. Speaks volumes.
            The fact the Sanford police released him proves nothing. Sometimes arrests are not made until days, weeks, months, even years after an event.
            I said nothing about the legal right to carry a gun, I said Neighborhood Watch forbids its members to do so while on patrol. Oh I’m Tea Party. Take my word for it.

          • Pam Dunn

            More ignorance and stupidity from the same moronic left winger troll, Bet you’re BLACK aren’t you.

          • me1952

            I’m of German and Russian ancestry. I’ll give you a lot of time to figure out what color I am. I know its a real brain teaser.

          • Aramac

            So your Russian grandmother slept with a Negro…the German ancestor would not have been that stupid.

          • me1952

            I knew it was a brainteaser. All this time and you still can’t figure it out?

          • Jan_in_NH

            So Zimmerman was suppose to wait until Trevon did more damage? You forget witness’ saw the black thug on top of GZ punching him MMA style.

          • me1952

            What damage? It looks like GZ got little more than a punch in the nose and knocked to the ground. Do you know who started the fight or how it started?
            Good reason not to play cop, you might be up against someone a lot bigger and meaner than you.

          • James

            TROLL!!

          • me1952

            I bet you’re jumping up and down in your sandbox.

          • Pam Dunn

            More pure and absolute BS from someone totally IGNORANT of the truth and facts.

          • danl62

            Well, that is not why he shot Trayvon is it? Try to stick to the facts as were revealed during the trial.

          • me1952

            I’m responding to a previous post. Try to keep it straight.

          • danl62

            I have it straight. Try to follow this. You made the comment

            “Irrelevant. We don’t shoot people for walking in the rain or taking extra time to get home.” Again, that is not why he was shot IS IT? Now do you get it?

          • me1952

            I was responding to a poster who said TM was walking in the rain and taking too long to get home. This supposedly looked “suspicious”.
            Now do you get it?

          • danl62

            I guess not. You are just too dense for me.

          • me1952

            I’ll try not to use so many syllables next time.

          • Pam Dunn

            try using that single brain cell you MAY have in all that Donkey Dung Between your ears; Either that or extract your head from your rectal opening.

          • danl62

            Just another race baiting dense troll.

          • Pam Dunn

            Responding from PURE ignorance and an INABILITY to listen and learn.

          • John C

            You’re right again, we don’t shoot people for walking in the rain, but we do shoot them for attacking us and attempting to kill us, like TM did to GZ.

          • me1952

            How do you know TM attacked GZ? Dead men tell no tales, right?

          • Pam Dunn

            When a druggie thug attacks an INNOCENT neighborhood watch man, beats his head on the sidewlk, he GETS what he deserves. He Reached home you brainless donkey and went BACK to attack Mr. Zimmerman. He told his “girl friend” that he was going to “GET” the “honky”. Now do try to act as IF you had a brain.

          • leftbrainfemale

            He knows that because the evidence proved it IN A COURT OF LAW. As someone who lives only about 40 minutes from where that occurred, I was on top of it from the moment the first *white* witness was found to have lied in order to make it look better for Trayvon and in order to get her 15 minutes of fame. The bleating hearts were all over that case from day one – but it was clear from listening to the full 911 tapes that only one side was presented in the media – and it was all spun to make GZ look like a jerk. He may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but he didn’t explode – but was beaten before he reacted. And when he did react, it was in order to save his own life.

          • me1952

            OJ was “Innocent” in a COURT OF LAW also.
            I agree the media did a terrible job with this.
            He was beaten? What’s the evidence? A few scratches on his head and a fractured nose. Sounds like he got decked by TM.
            Doesn’t tell us who started the fight or how it started. Could TM have been acting in self defense? After all, who was following who and carrying a loaded weapon?

          • Doulos1964

            Witnesses said that GZ was on the ground with TM on top of him when the shooting occured. This was backed up by the trajectory of the bullet. GZ was have his head bashed in, so he was in a fight for his life. Unfortunately, TM died in that fight.

          • me1952

            Do we know who started the fight or how it started?
            What would you do to someone who had been following you on a dark empty street?
            How do you know TM would bash his head in? TM may well have been acting in self defense. After all, who was following who carrying a loaded gun?
            None of this would have happened if GZ hadn’t decided to play cop.

          • John C

            You’re right, if GZ hadn’t been there TM would have committed his crime, either a burglary or a Robbery and moved on to commit more crimes somewhere else in the future.

          • me1952

            So now you’re a prophet?
            Tell me how you know for a fact what TM would do?

          • Pam Dunn

            Well moron; You are playing “eye witness” when you are completely ignorant and apparently UNABLE to read.

          • me1952

            Again, any chance of a halfway intelligent argument?

          • Thorgo

            Isn’t that what you just did above ?

          • me1952

            Nope. I didn’t predict what TM would do if he was still alive.

          • QuietDanTN

            Read the court transcript, you insufferable moron. No one’s got the time or inclination to re-litigate the whole bloody weeks long trial for you. Do your damn homework. This is a discussion of the ongoing Ferguson incident.

          • me1952

            We have something in this country called freedom of speech and people can talk about what they want.
            No one is forcing to read anything unrelated to the Ferguson incident.

          • Pam Dunn

            More stupidity from the usual empty headed moron

          • James

            It’s hard to consider it “self defense” on TM’s part when TM was ON TOP of GZ,mashing his head into the concrete.

          • me1952

            Well, who was following who with a loaded weapon? How else could TM defend himself against someone who had been following him? TM didn’t have a weapon, GZ did.
            Also, who started the fight and how did it start?
            GZ had his head “smashed” in concrete but had only a superficial injury and was not checked out for a head injury?Very strange.
            What might you do if you suddenly confronted the person who had been stalking you on a dark empty street?

          • Bill Hartman

            GZ was retreating back to his truck when he was attacked. We know this because they were seen further way from the truck than the place where the physical confrontation took place.

          • me1952

            Or GZ may have been stalking TM and inadvertently, or deliberately, confronted him. Every indication was TM was trying to evade GZ. If he wanted a confrontation so badly, why not from the start? Also, why would TM evade GZ? Maybe because he was frightened? Why then would TM seek out the safety of his father’s friend’s home then turn around and seek out the man he was fleeing from?
            GZ never should have left his vehicle. He should have let the police do their job.
            Playing cop and get you into a lot of trouble.

          • Cutnmetal

            Hey goofy. He ran off then came back to the truck to attack GZ. If he were the victim why wouldn’t he just keep running? Seems smarter than attacking someone with a gun!

          • me1952

            Well doofus, why did he run off to begin with? Why not just stand there and confront GZ if he’s looking for a fight ? Maybe because TM was frightened and just wanted to be left alone? Maybe GZ isn’t completely truthful as to when he returned to his truck? Dead men tell no tales, right?
            If you know someone has a gun, are you going to attack them under any circumstances? Also, if you’re frightened enough to try to get away from someone, once you reach safety, are you going to turn around and look for that person? Really think about that, especially if you have ever fled a dangerous situation.

          • Pam Dunn

            More ignorance and stupidity from an absolute moron.

          • me1952

            Obviously you can’t offer a halfway intelligent argument.

          • James

            YOU can’t either. Flipping out inane questions does little to bring on a discussion. Where’s the TROLL PATROL when we need ‘em?

          • me1952

            James, please do us all a favor and grow up.

          • Gregory Downey

            The word you are looking for is Bleeding…. Bleating is what goats do…

          • Fred Ford

            What would we do without you thoughtful comments…?

          • Gregory Downey

            You would remain in ignorance…

          • Elevenarrows

            I assumed he was being sarcastic and derogatory by using “bleating” for “bleeding”.

          • spoiledsoprano

            I thought bleating very apropos. To me , it alluded to the oft used phrase sheeple. Although I prefer oysters. Please see Carroll’s “The Walrus and the Carpenter.”

          • patmyass

            They both work pretty well here, actually

          • madmemere

            “Sometimes” bleeding hearts “fits”, but in the case of liberals, trust me, they “bleat”; you don’t think any of them would actually “ahed a drop of blood” for anyone else, do you? And with all the crass non-factual articulation they come up with, it can definitely be compared to bleating sheep/goats OR a bunch of cackling hens/crows!

          • EamonnDublin

            In this case, Bleating is far more apt than Bleeding . Never heard of innovation?

          • Today22011

            Bleating is appropriate in this instance.

          • John C. Sims

            Kinda strange how every time a black guy gets killed by a white guy, the black guy ends up having a record that seems to suggest a pattern of prior violent or criminal behavior that is consistent with the alleged behavior exhibited on the date he was killed. Is this just the biggest coincidence EVER?…or do people who are known to look for trouble simply find it eventually?…and why does the black community who initially makes adamant claims about the “Victim’s” kind, and sweet, innocent nature suddenly become outraged when VIDEO EVIDENCE to the contrary surfaces? Watching your son commit a crime on video tape is not a “Smear Campaign,” ..That’s called EVIDENCE. Why are these people so outraged when a white guy defends himself from an attack by an apparent criminal who just happens to be black, but are silent when a black man succeeds in killing a white guy…or even another black guy? The only conclusion to be reached here, is that the black community is OK with “Thug” behavior, even murder from a black man, but will not tolerate a white man who uses deadly force in a predominantly black neighborhood, to defend himself. Why do these people think that white people believe it is necessary to carry a gun in the first place?…Could it be that white people have noticed over a few decades, That “Thuggish” behavior is tolerated in the black community? That is not being prejudiced…that is called “Being observant.” The crime statistics back it up…

            Notice to BLACK PARENTS…Stop letting your children do whatever they want to do…How about getting outraged when ANY CRIME is committed. ..not just crime that involves your child. Stop letting your children listen to music that glorifies gang behavior and rape and drugs..Stop letting.your children dress and act and talk like these THUGS…or don’t be surprised if your child ends up dead…because YOUR inaction contributed to it. The outrage that is shown AFTER someone’s child has been killed solves NOTHING if there was no prior outrage whenever that child started exhibiting “Gangsta-like” behavior. Don’t pretend you didn’t notice…and if you really didn’t…Stop having children.

          • mrsduce

            There it is people, sad but true. One can only wonder how the headline would have read if Michael had killed the cop in that scuffle, OR..would there even have been a headline? Regardless, you nailed it

          • Sven

            This is what you are looking for:
            Parents will blindly lie to themselves about their kids, I don’t know why.

          • pfiffi43

            This post should have been at the top! You are so right. I observed bad behavior in younger black children and no one dares to speak up because they will be called racist.

          • Ron S

            Well said. I live in Hampton Roads Va. Nearly every night on the news there is a story about a black “kid” shooting another black “kid”. It’s so common now, that you get a 2 minute clip then you never hear any more about it. Almost every shooting happens in the early morning hours. I can sit on my porch every night and hear gunshots. Why are these “teenagers” out on the streets at 2 A.M.? Where are the parents? Probably smoking crack or shooting up. I am so sick of the thugs and the wannabe gangsta’s. On the positive, our police forces have petitioned for AR-!5s. I’m pretty sure they will get them.

          • leftbrainfemale

            Nope. It was intended as a pun as that’s what most bleeding hearts do – bleat!

          • Cee Hep

            The same court system and police evidence that proved, the 5 boys guilty now released. (five men who were convicted and later found innocent of raping a female jogger in Central Park in 1989, will be paid $40 million in a settlement by New York City) And there no the only ones so stop with the COURT OF LAW bs, that works for cops and judges son (GZ) GZ is a quilty as you are white.

          • Duke-Jinx

            Rite… I’m waiting for all the innocent looking baby Mike pictures….

          • Jeff

            Funny! Is that him?

          • Duke-Jinx

            Yep !! …and that’s THE witness ! His crime partner in the background.

          • Shad

            No that’s not them. Thats Joda Cain, 17, and Micus Ward, 20 from a 2013 story. “Joda Cain, 17, is accused of murdering his great-grandmother, Jacqueline Bell, 71, at her home in Portland, Oregon then stealing her car to flee the area, reports The Oregonian.” “Cain and his cousin, Micus Ward, 19, allegedly killed Bell after a party they threw at her home.”

            http://newsone.com/2737243/jacqueline-bell-joda-cain/

          • Duke-Jinx

            WOW….. LOOK Here Shad…. http://freedomoutpost.com/2014… Tuff to know who or what to believe this day and age…

          • TSpur

            this is not him?

          • Duke-Jinx
          • asdfg

            yep, it’s him. even the first picture on left shows the same money in his mouth.

          • rrchesnutt

            And I do not care about the stupid comment that is always used, “That he used too much force to protect himself” in my opinion he was in a fight with a stinking criminal who would have killed or done what ever he could to the victim. So they both got what they deserved. If you are going to commit a crime then the out come is your fault.

          • Gatordoc

            Dude, that would be “bleeding hearts”, not “bleating hearts”. Just saying…

          • leftbrainfemale

            Nope, LOL – that was a “pun intended”. The bleeding hearts know how to bleat better than just about anyone!

          • Albert Gazalooch

            Who’s going to dispute GZ’s story! TM?

          • me1952

            Exactly. Dead men tell no tales.

          • John C

            Ah, but they do tell tales, that is why the forensic evidence proved Zimmerman innocent even with a full court press by the racist rabble rousers and the lefty media trying their hardest to convict Zimmerman.

          • me1952

            You mean just like OJ? Al Capone was never guilty of anything other than income evasion, right?

          • Tom Flores

            Dumbazz. The trial proved all you n*ggas were full of $hit. Now deal with it.

          • me1952

            I’m of German and Russian ancestry. I’ll give you a lot of time to figure out what color I am. I know you’ll need it.

          • John C

            Ah, a Communist.

          • me1952

            Ah, someone who doesn’t know that when you assume, you make an “ass” out of “u” and “me”.

          • John C

            Your statements prove it. Keep on crying for the criminals, if what you wanted took place, they’d eat you leaving only the bones.

          • me1952

            Where do I cry for criminals?

          • John C

            You mean the way you assumed Zimmerman wasn’t badly hurt, because you didn’t want him to be, but with no evidence to prove your case.

          • me1952

            What evidence is there to prove he was?

          • Aramac

            So, your Russian mother slept with a Negro, you are a Democrat, and probably have been in a court room as a defendant many times.

          • me1952

            Still trying to figure it out? Good grief you’re dumber than I thought.

          • jalina susan stutte

            Were you sleeping all through the trial? Trayvon was a THUG and it cost him his life.

          • me1952

            Irrelevant whether he was a choirboy or the biggest thug on the planet. He was committing no crime and posing no threat to anyone when GZ picked up a gun and followed him.
            TM may well have been acting in self defense. What would you do if suddenly confronted by the person who has been following you on a dark empty street?

          • John C

            assault is indeed a crime, so is attempted murder. Beating someone’s head off the ground repeatedly can reasonable be expected to cause serious physical injury or death unless stopped quickly, fortunately for GZ he stopped it quick enough.

          • me1952

            What is the evidence he had his head beaten? No concussion, no visit to the hospital. The man could stand up and act perfectly normal. Very strange for someone who had his head repeatedly “bashed”.
            How do you know who started the fight or how it started? Could TM have been acting in self defense?
            None of this wouldn’t have happened if GZ hadn’t played cop.

          • John C

            The clear pictures and video which showed his head bleeding. The medical pathologist/ forensic expert Dr. DiMeo stated Zimmerman’s wounds warranted medical treatment and the police should have taken him to the hospital.

          • me1952

            Those pictures showed very superficial scalp wounds. The scalp will bleed profusely if lacerated. GZ visited his doctor the next day and no concussion was found. Also the doctor didn’t order any skull x-rays or a CAT scan. If medical treatment was warranted, why didn’t his doctor order it?

          • John C

            You are a fool. If God almighty showed you something you wouldn’t believe it, if it didn’t fit you ideology. You keep on with your fantasy, it won’t change the truth that Zimmerman was correct in blowing Martin away and the cop in this case was correct in shooting the criminal Brown. You certainly prove that you are not TEA Party because they look for the truth, you just keep looking to lie to yourself and others.

          • me1952

            Let me make this simple.
            The pictures themselves prove nothing about Brown’s guilt or innocence. Only the facts of his crime and shooting.
            Unlike you, I don’t believe people have to march in lockstep, and that includes Tea Party.
            If GZ hadn’t played cop, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

          • Michael Stohler

            The photos taken by the police of GZ wounds, that is the evidence. You keep repeating the same ignorant statement that it isn’t illegal to walk home. You are correct it isn’t but trespassing is. You know what else isn’t illegal? Walking around in your own neighborhood in a gated community making sure a suspicious person who does not live there isn’t
            breaking in to a neighbors house or cars. It also is not illegal to walk in you own neighborhood in a gated community while legally carrying a concealed weapon to protect your family and neighbors from trespassing thugs who do not belong there.

            And, I still say that is no way you are Tea Party.

          • me1952

            They only offer evidence of very superficial wounds. The scalp bleeds very profusely. Those were little more than scrapes.
            What is ignorant about the statement its not illegal to walk home if its true? Did anyone call police and report a trespasser? How do you know he was trespassing?
            Yes you can be a vigilant neighbor, but playing cop can be extremely dangerous. Let the police do their job.
            What illegal activity was TM involved in? Please be specific.
            Also, TM was staying at his father’s friend’s, who lived there. He had a right to be there.

          • markvindenver

            Trayvon attacked him cause he was mad that Zimmerman was watching him ! Trayvon knocked him down and got on top that’s when Zimmerman had to do something quick before Trayvon got his gun out of holster Zimmerman should have stayed in his car but he committed no crime. Trayvon committed a crime, assault that’s where he got killed.

          • me1952

            You know this for a fact…how?

          • Jan_in_NH

            Because, dopey, you can hear it on the police tape and Treyvon’s moron friend, Rachael, said he had arrived home.

          • me1952

            No dimwit, he was talking to Rachel when he suddenly confronted someone and asked why he(GZ?) was following him(TM). The phone then went dead. He was near his father’s home. That could be in front of the house, down the street, or around the block. Rachel’s IQ doesn’t make her a liar. BTW, I understand she speaks 2 or 3 languages. Do you?

          • Aramac

            So, you must be Rachel.

          • Sassy3000

            Ignore the lying moron! I watched the video of Rachel’s testimony and she said that she thought that George Zimmerman might be a gay rapist. So Treyvon told her he was going after him!
            later we have an eye-witness of Treyvon (the thug) on top of George beating him! OH and ignore his BS about how he wasn’t “Badly Hurt”. The pictures the pukes in the liberal media released were taken HOURS AFTER the incident after George had been cleaned up! but if you see the pictures taken right after the incident he is clearly badly bruised and beaten.
            Not surprising. Treyvon was 6 ft and over 179 lbs. He had played football and bragged about all the guys he had beaten up. He also asked a friend where he could buy a gun. There are pictures of him posing with (presumably) a friend’s gun.
            But the pukes in the media kept showing a picture of Treyvon from when he was 13! He was almost 18!
            No one ever said he deserved to die. Only that the idiot brought it on himself!

          • me1952

            Very possible it was a gay rapist. Then there were the sounds of a confrontation and the phone going dead. The fact that TM got the upper hand in the fight does not prove who started it or how it started. Who set this situation up? Who was following who on a dark street?
            Who cleaned GZ up? How many hours after the incident was he videotaped? Where were his bloody clothes?
            Also, why didn’t he visit the hospital for diagnosis and treatment if he was so badly hurt?
            Doesn’t matter how big TM was, he wasn’t the one who picked up a weapon and followed someone. Also, why wouldn’t he have a right to defend himself, whatever his size?
            Face it, your hero played cop, got in over his head, then had to cover his tail.

          • Robin Watson

            this is a discussion forum. No one is def right and no one is def wrong. Cant we agree or disagree without being completely childish??? Its not here to get mad at each other..All i have to say is that if it was two whites or two blacks, this discussion wouldnt hardly be even happening. The color skin doesnt matter at all…to me anyway.

          • Sassy3000

            Uh no moron! because Treyvons GIRLFRIEND said he was turning around to go and confront George! Let me guess! Like ALL low-information morons you based all of your crap on the bile coming out of the rear-end of the lying liberal media but didn’t once bother to watch ANY part of the trial.
            Well not only did RACHEL say Treyvon told her he was going back to confront George BUT a neighbor testified that he saw Treyvon on top of George beating him repeatedly and that he heard George Call for help!

          • me1952

            First of all moron she wasn’t his girlfriend. No, he told her he was being followed and she told him to make a run for home.
            Suddenly there were the sounds of a confrontation, with TM asking someone why he was following him, then the phone went dead.
            The fact TM had the upper hand in the fight doesn’t prove who started it or how the fight started. Could TM have been acting in self defense? What would you do if suddenly confronted by someone who has been following you on a dark empty street? Also, why were GZ’s injuries so minimal and non life threatening if he was being repeatedly beaten? There was dispute over who was calling for help. It was never determined for certain.

          • madmemere

            Because “cowards, sneak thieves and troublemakers” do NOT confront; they hide out, sneak up and attack from behind!

          • me1952

            How do you know for certain GZ was attacked from behind?
            Dead men tell no tales, right?
            Do courageous people carry guns and follow unarmed people on empty streets at night?

          • madmemere

            And how do you know he wasn’t; were you there? You heard, or read the evidence presented, the same as the rest of US!

          • me1952

            Good point. We only have GZ’s word. And of course he wouldn’t be covering anything up.

          • Michael Stohler

            He probably knows this the same way myself and other rational people do, by paying attention to the witnesses, police reports and evidence and ignoring the race baiting liars. Trayvon got what he deserved and GZ should of got a medal.

            As for Brown and the cop who shot him, I don’t know the facts of the shooting yet to form an opinion on weather or not it was a justifiable shooting or not. After seeing the video from the convenience store however, I will say that the world is better off without Brown in it. If the cop killed him in cold blood then he should pay for his crime regardless of how much of a scum bag Brown was.

          • me1952

            Why does TM deserve what he got? Can you tell me the crime he was committing or what threat he was posing when GZ picked up a gun and followed him?
            GZ is no hero. He played cop, got in over his head and had to go into CYA mode.
            We agree on Brown. The issue is what crime he in fact committed and if the shooting was justified. Not his pictures.

          • Pam Dunn

            Moron !!

          • Kevin Carroll

            You should have listened to the testimony of Martin’s friend. Then you wouldn’t embarrass yourself with your remark.

          • me1952

            I did. So tell me, why did TM try to get away at all. Why not confront GZ the moment he saw him?
            Also, wouldn’t you feel threatened if someone was following you?

          • Kevin Carroll

            Martin’s friend testified that at one point Martin had lost Zimmerman, she advised him to run home. He did not , instead he went and confronted Zimmerman and was shot and killed . Sorry to burden you with the facts.

          • me1952

            Why did TM go to the trouble of losing GZ? Why not confront him immediately? Was he frightened and trying to get away? Also, the friend testified that TM suddenly confronting someone and asking him why he was following him(TM), then the phone went dead. Did TM go after GZ, or did GZ continue to stalk TM and either inadvertently or deliberately confront him? We have only GZ’s work and he has to cover his butt, right?

          • me1952

            Let me burden you with a few more. TM was making every effort to get away from GZ. Why do you suppose TM “lost” him? Maybe because he was frightened and wanted to avoid a confrontation? Who was following who with a loaded gun? Who was posing a threat to who’s life?
            Maybe he never made it home because of the confrontation the friend describes, when the phone went dead. Maybe GZ continued to stalk TM and inadvertently or deliberately ran into him. How did the fight start? Did GZ threaten TM? Shove him? Grab him? Take a swing at him? We’ll never know since we will forever only have one side of the story. I’m convinced GZ found himself overwhelmed by TM and panicked. Getting into dangerous situations can happen when one plays cop.
            Also, might you react violently if confronting the person who’s been following you on a dark empty street?

          • Kevin Carroll

            You know who was following him with a loaded gun, a community watch officer, in a community with chronic crime problems. And once he lost him , all he had to do was go home and he’d still be alive. But he decided to turn the tables on Zimmerman. And it cost him his life.

          • me1952

            Exactly. So we agree that GZ was posing a threat to TM’s life. TM was committing no crime and posing no threat to anyone when GZ made this decision.
            Whether or not GZ was a Neighborhood Watch is disputed. If he was, he violated their two most important rules;
            1. NO weapons
            2. NO confrontations, and this includes following.
            Observe and report ONLY
            Suspicious behavior is subjective. I could determine that you look suspicious driving around my neighborhood when in fact you’re just looking for your lost dog.
            Right he “lost” GZ, so that tells us what? That maybe he was trying very hard to get away from him? Why didn’t he just confront him from the start? How do you know he wasn’t headed home when suddenly confronted by GZ? Rachel’s testimony would suggest that. Also if you’re frightened enough to try and get away from a situation, why on earth would you turn around and look for the person you’re trying to get away from?
            TM would still be alive if GZ had simply let the police do their job. GZ played cop. a very foolish and fateful decision, and got in over his head. I’m convinced he’s a man living a lie, and its taking a toll.

          • Kevin Carroll

            No he wasn’t posing a threat, they’re is zero evidence of that. He called the cops on someone he deemed suspicious. And the neighborhood watch issue is only disputed by the ill informed. And why would Martin go back and confront GZ? Because he saw the fat out of shape guy retreating and decided he would turn the tables on him. Very simple.

          • me1952

            So we agree, TM was posing no threat. And suspicious behavior is subjective. As I said, I could deem your driving around searching for your lost dog as “suspicious”. If GZ was Neighborhood Watch, then he violated their two most important rules, and is a good example as to why these rules are made.
            How do you know TM went back and confronted GZ? Maybe GZ continued to stalk TM and confronted him. After all, we have only GZ’s version of events, right? And GZ wanted to stay out of the slammer, right? If TM saw a fat out of shape guy why didn’t he confront him in the first place? Why did TM make so much effort to get away from him? For all TM knew this guy could be armed, right?
            Maybe not quite as simple as you think.

      • me1952

        Irrelevant. Trayvon wasn’t committing any crime when George Zimmerman, not so sterling a character himself, decided to play cop.

        • kennethwbaguley

          Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch person and wasn’t breaking the law either…and Trayvon was a burglar and thug and drug user wandering around the neighborhood looking on porches and probably into windows…He had burglar tools in his school locker and stolen jewelery..And was kicked out of school .Who was the law breaker?

          • me1952

            There is some debate over whether in fact he was. If he was he violated their two most important rules:
            1. No weapons
            2. No confrontations, which includes following.
            Look it up if you don’t believe me.
            What crime was TM committing and please back it up. Who says he was looking “on porches”. Is that a crime? Were neighbors calling in complaints?
            Whether he was saint or sinner is irrelevant. He posed no threat to anyone and was committing no crime when GZ picked up a lethal weapon and followed him, in violation of Neighborhood Watch rules.

          • kennethwbaguley

            Zimmerman had a right to carry and wasn’t patroling at the time, until He saw Trayvon with hoodie, walking in the rain etc Suspicious…He had every right to watch, and follow him and when told not to, he stopped and went to get the address.
            The time factor backs him up…Zimmerman never told a lie and facts he related were substantiated with evidence and witness testimony and was found not guilty by a jury. What more do you want?…What if Zimmerman were you?

          • me1952

            GZ may have had a right to carry but if he was acting as NW, he violated their rules. Someone with a hoodie in the rain is suspicious? Purely subjective. Someone can think you look suspicious because you drove around the block a couple of times. Maybe you’re just looking for your lost dog.
            Following is confrontational and extremely dangerous. That’s why you call police. He says he stopped following TM, but the testimony of TM’s friend, who he was talking on the phone with, suggests otherwise. It also suggests a sudden confrontation.
            How do you know he never told a lie?
            If I were GZ I wouldn’t be foolish enough to pick up a lethal weapon and follow someone who is doing little more than minding their own business. GZ played cop, got in over his head, then went into a CYA mode. Lucky for him dead men tell no tales.

          • jalina susan stutte

            He was a thug who robbed homes around that area. It was covered up because he was black but came out after his death. Why is it ok for Blacks to commit crimes and not pay for it? Take your PC Azz and move on.

          • me1952

            Source??
            What crime was TM committing when GZ picked up a gun and followed him?

        • kennethwbaguley

          Obviously you’re biased and haven’t read nor listened to the facts of the case…Are you better than a jury who heard it all? Zimmerman was a most sterling character and even marched with signs and all with blacks in behalf of a black being mistreated by police…who it turns out the mistreating officer was the son of the Chief of Police and nothing had been done about it until Zimmerman and the blacks demonstrated…They turned their backs on him and tried to create him to be racist when in fact he was clean of any kind of prejudice…Get the facts…

          • me1952

            I’m biased?
            Well the jury “heard it all” in the OJ trial, so OJ is innocent, right?
            GZ has had run ins with the law.
            All that aside, if GZ had let the police do their job that night, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

          • kennethwbaguley

            OJ is a whole different story…GZ’s life has been destroyed and he’s facing a lot of emotional things…He now needs help after being crucified by legal conspirators. He was letting the police do their job and he was doing his job, while interrupting his drive to the store.

          • me1952

            Well at least GZ is still alive. TM isn’t. GZ made the choice that night. TM wanted to be left alone.
            Personally I think GZ is a man tormented by his conscience. Some think he’s a hero, he knows otherwise. GZ was no killer, he made the fateful decision to play cop, and someone is dead because of it. A terrible thing to live with.

    • Jan_in_NH

      Never is, but they still will riot and loot and claim to be victims. I read they now want to riot because the video was released.

  • http://www.realultimatepower.com/ Chucky Arla

    Good timing. This will distract from the the assaults on protesters, camera crews, and the kidnapping of a couple of journalists.

    • Dwight Rider

      Suck it up cupcake. Seen anyone falsely arrested? Seen anyone released for false incarceration? Ever been the subject of the press? Did the press go too far? You are just another libtard that cannot face facts or win the argument without them. What a rube!!

      • http://www.realultimatepower.com/ Chucky Arla

        The officer who shot Michael Brown was unaware that he was a robbery suspect. It appears this incident occurred from enforcement of jaywalking laws. If Michael Brown is the person in the video, it indicates he was aggressive. It lends some credence to the claim of the officer that Brown escalated the confrontation, but it’s really only going to be used to distract from the abuses of power wielded by the goons who operate on the ends of leashes held be politicians.

        If someone is falsely arrested, that is kidnapping, and there should be consequences for the kidnapper. I don’t believe in exempting special classes of people from the normal moral order. The press “going too far” is a vague term. Are you implying they violated the property rights of another person? If they did, then that’s a crime for which the aggrieved is due compensation. But that’s not what your beloved government runs its “justice” system for.

        You big government serfs are becoming increasingly shrill. I bet if you look on Craigslist, you can find someone who will indulge you fetish for submission. How about you leave those of us who don’t want to be slaves out of it?

  • ErikandKathy Muller

    Still not a reason to shoot and kill an unarmed person. If the cop was not able to subdue the man, then he should have waited for back up, or tased him..but to shoot him like that was wrong.

    • Andy67

      Yea, then we might be talking about a dead cop….no biggie, huh?

      • Gregory Downey

        Since you also seem to ignorant to read: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
        stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
        tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
        the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
        corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
        then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
        stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
        ambulance.

        • gordo

          Wow Greg, you are on a full out MISSION with your continual copy & paste of this reply. Get some new material. You love to call others ignorant & illiterate, but you yourself can’t come up with any new to write. Pretty superior aren’t you?

          • Gregory Downey

            Absolutely. Repetition is the key to retention. People need to be exposed to a message multiple times for it to sink in… ;-)

    • Fred Beggs

      Remember that. You will eat your words someday.

    • joeynyce

      Are you a cop? We’re you in this situation? Until you work patrol and put on a uniform everyday including a bulletproof vest, until you are running towards danger when everyone else runs away and last but not least until you kiss your family goodbye on your way to work knowing you would sacrifice for life for a total stranger, then keep your judgement about what a cop should have done in your opinion to yourself.

    • Thomas Trevor Lewis

      So we are supposed to arm criminals to make it a fair fight? What an idiotic idea. Overwhelming force works.

      • ErikandKathy Muller

        Didn’t say that..The point is..the man was unarmed..albeit..a thug..but unarmed. He did not point a gun at the cop..Brown needed to be arrested..not shot

  • gordo

    Nice try Glen, but it wont help…the people in Ferguson who are rioting, will continue to do so, & then some. If Brown had been a white boy, NOT A WORD of this would be in the media. I guess it’s ok to rob & steal now with no consequences?? Ok then…

    • grinnie

      I read about a cop/white boy shooting in Philly(?) the same day or the day before. “White” boy shot/killed by cop who told him to do something but the kid had his headset on and didn’t hear the command. He was shot and killed…..did that neighborhood become a battle ground with ‘white’s’ rioting? Did anyone even hear about it?

      • gordo

        No grinnie, not a word. Just my point. White boy shot/killed=no media hype….Black boy shot/killed=national news coverage, Black Panther takeover, rioting, looting, etc. etc. etc. Im sad that 2 young boys lost their lives in such tragic circumstances. Im just tired of certain people USING it to RACE BAIT and divide our country further.

    • Steven Butterbaugh

      When Holder wouldn’t hear the voters rights case, he said “in so many words” that race determined the justice he dished out. So “yes” for blacks there are no consequences.

      • gordo

        Steven, wow, Holder, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. etc. etc. need to go! What happens if we find out the cop was indeed black? I’ve heard he is white also..who knows for sure.

    • Gregory Downey

      Since you can’t read either: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 winesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

      • Denna Freed

        Do you know, for a FACT, that the cop hadn’t heard the call go out over the radio PRIOR to stopping Brown? And IF the cop heard the all, do you know, for a FACT, that the cop did NOT realize AFTER THE STOP that Brown fit the description of the perp in the robbery?

      • gordo

        OK Greg, where did you get that I can’t read??? WTF?? I guess we will eventually find out the truth. I have been reading OTHER articles that say the cop DID know he just robbed a store. So sue me for reading other news pages. So what you are saying is…it’s okay that all the rioting, looting, Black Panther involvement, etc. etc. etc. is ok??? Really?

    • guest233

      gordo.yes it’s ok to steal and rob and maim and kill and burn and destroy BUT only if your black. (not all blacks, just most)

  • dgree3

    I agree that militarized police forces are overkill. That being said, civil disobedience is perfectly acceptable as long as the emphasis is on civil just as much as disobedience. Violent mobs are very often a cover for other crimes being committed while the police are facing down the mob. Check all the residual criminal acts going on in Ferguson. As far as the color factor, that is a non-starter. Stupid is as stupid does-not how it’s colored. Was a single Molotov cocktail thrown at the ranch in Nevada or a single shot fired at LEO’s? No it was not. I must assume that any group of people using a grievance to burn down its own community is operating at a primal level of opportunism that will forever preclude them from uniting and changing their circumstances. If all you know and want is victims and victimhood you are no good to society as a whole.

    • xingqin

      The National guard should have been used when the racist black panthers entered the picture and refusal to disperse should have brought those refusing to the ground with real bullets and not rubber

  • Cindy Beck

    the video is out Glenn needs to get it .. get the whole video more then what the news is showing.

  • angie

    Surprise, surprise…another thug!!!

  • Dave Seitzer

    That report was written after he was shot… Check out the dating. The
    report date is 08/09/2014 11:51 but the incident took place between
    11:52 and 11:54. Are we really supposed to believe that the report was
    written 1 minute before the incident took place???

    http://tftppull.freethoughtllc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/brown-report-store.jpg

    • Vegas_Bob

      Read what it says. . .Report Date. . . .that is when the report was filled out, the cop didn’t even know that the ‘kid’ was a suspect in a robbery (even his chief said he didn’t stop him because of the robbery). . .the cop was merely telling them to get out of the middle of the road. . .the problem is that Michael Brown knew that he might be a suspect in a robbery. . .if the cop had been aware, he most likely would have called for back up.

      And you are aware that CCTV systems can be off time-wise, depending on the type and whether or not the time has to be set or if it is computer-operated.

  • Scoon Jenkins

    “While Brown should not have lost is life” ………….Ummmmmmmm…………Considering we don’t know if he was trying to get the officer’s gun, that sounds like you have come to the conclusion that the cop is guilty regardless………

    • marlene

      good point, but beck almost always hedges. however, he will eventually get to the real truth… just ignore his bleeding heart.

    • Linda C. Dines

      Add fear!

  • steve34609

    Trayvon, my little angel! (Facts proved him to be a foul-mouthed, drug ingesting/dealing, womanizing, thieving, school-skipping, George Zimmerman-beating, little street punk. With an attitude.) Michael, my little angel! (Facts are proving hm SO FAR to be a thieving, violent street punk.) We have a few more adjectives to go before the list is as long as Trayvons…but it will all come out. Forty percent of convicted, violent offenders come from a segment of the population comprising less than 5% of the total US population: the black male age 15-35.

    • mikifenn

      He was a gentle giant I read.

    • Gregory Downey

      Sne you too are obviously too ignorant to digest the facts:

      The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

      • Denna Freed

        Three witnesses who had no previous corroboration…. how do you know that they didn’t “corroborate” while standing there on the street after the fact?

  • TheDude

    The Shooting was only half the story (although if they were transparent from the begining maybe some of the unrest would have been avoided). The thing that concerns me is the total disregard for your rights that police exhibit everyday across the country made visible by the use of force the police in fergusen used against both protesters and members of the media

  • Curt Miles

    Aside from this guy getting himself killed, Police have been on this path of acquiring assets, for a very long time. Yes, police are becoming militarized and they’ll continue to do so, if they aren’t stopped. What gets me, is how the same types keep getting hired. Most police, go through a psych eval called an MMPI and usually the Psychiatrist they use, is dept hired and one could easily assume, he is paid off to pass whomever the department wants passed. Do we really want Police on our streets, that are mentally unfit? Why is there not a completely impartial committee that investigates police, before they ever get hired?

    • Gregory Downey

      Well stated…

  • In_the_OC

    It’s not surprising that we now hear the lawyer for the parents saying none of this matters, really. He was a “good boy” – yeah, sure, I believe that. I promise you all, I gave this whole scenario the benefit of the doubt when it first happened – even during all the STUPID, DESTRUCTIVE LOOTING and destruction of the businesses and property of people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS – and as I have been watching the “hands up, come and get us” blacks as they march down the street in protest of the mean, WHITE, racist police officers.

    But NOW – well, now it’s clearly a different story, and the FACTS, as the MSM and Obama and the lawyer don’t WANT us to see or hear of, speak louder than what we’ve been hearing from all of them. What, you say? A strong-arm robbery with the “kid”, the 300 pound, 6’4″ “kid”, stealing a box of cigars and pushing around the store owner, grabbing his shirt, scaring the heck out of him, immediately prior to the incident with the policeman? Nah, that couldn’t possibly be a reason or probable cause to check out the “kid” he observed walking down the street with his “buddy.” Could it?

    Nah

    Let us believe the Truth will out – whatever it is. But it’s NOT what we’ve seen all of up until this morning, Friday, 8/15.

  • John

    So really, doesn’t this all just add up then? You get the kind of police force you deserve. Michael Brown got the kind of police force HE deserved. Didn’t he?

  • Garrett Timothy

    I would suggest that every time we have these incidents those that wish to have peaceful protest should find ways of separating themselves from the thugs and thiefs that are waiting in the background. They are there for when things get out of control and end up ruining the point of the protest to begin with.
    Another point this appears to be represented similar to the Trayvon case where pictures of the victim make him seem like a young and innocent child, when in fact he’s not. The pictures of the store clerk being assaulted by him make him look like just another thug.
    Third point if a police officer is trying to talk to you and or detain you, fighting with him is a poor choice. The use of deadly force may happen and well here we see the results of that choice. Of course a Police Officer should not be using deadly force unless there is no other choice.

  • don cook

    Do you think anybody cares about the details? All they care about is that a cop killed an unarmed black man. Nobody cares that he was a criminal who attacked the cop. All that matters is what color he was. Kind of like in the Trayvon Martin case. Nobody cared that he was a young thug, all that mattered was that an unarmed black man was killed.

  • dan9el

    NEW FRESH BONE FOR BLACK RACISTS

    Does anyone out there remember the case of Zimmerman, in Florida?

    On base of what we all did experience about the Zimmerman case,…. with this thing of “over-racism calling” (overrating of racism)….well….it seems to be that….DOJ (Eric Holder himself)….Rev Wright….Rev Al Sharpton….WHITE HOUSE (Barack Obama himself)….along with THE BLACK PANTHERS…and associated /related organizations …sent ‘strong suggestion’…almost a mandate there to Florida,…. to attempt to get Mr Zimmerman guilty for race-induce murder.
    These black super-racists cling on the case like a pit-bull dog to a bone…they would not let go ….true? or false?

    And now,….it looks that they found a fresher bone to hold-on,…

    So , as result, once again, it seems that we will have (as it building right now),..that MoveOn.Org,… NAACP,…Al Sharpton,… Jesse Jackson , Eric Holder,… Barack Obama,…and perhaps virtually everyone black in between.. want blood once more…so it seems.

    Input anyone? Opinions welcome.

    • Gregory Downey

      This shooting is not about race. It’s about PRIDE and ARROGANCE… One shot was all the kid needed to stop any imminent threat. He ran away. He was then shot in the back. When he turned around to demonstrate and tell the cop he was unarmed the cop pumped 7 more shots into him. This has been corroborated by 3 separate witnesses. You all need to get a clue as to what the REAL issue is here.

      • dan9el

        The event has nothing to do with racism,…every individual with only two fingers of forehead can understand that,…..and yet…..

        Jackson, Sharpton, Obama are making Ferguson – Missouri incident a racist issue….are they not?

        Civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson on Friday likened the fatal shooting of Michael Brown by a Ferguson police officer to a “state execution.”

        “[H]ow many times was he shot?” Jackson asked on MSNBC, in a series of rhetorical questions about Brown. “And where was he shot? And why was he lying in the street for several hours? That was kind of a state execution.”

        http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/jesse-jackson-ferguson-reaction-110058.html?hp=l4

        The Rev. Al Sharpton on Friday urged caution about positive reports coming out of Ferguson, Missouri, saying that one peaceful night hasn’t solved the issue of the death of unarmed 18-year-old Michael Brown.

        “Let’s not act like we’ve solved the problem because we now have the cops marching with the marchers,” the MSNBC host said. “We still have an unarmed young man that was killed and the issue of that can be lost in all of this.”

        http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/al-sharpton-ferguson-protests-110048.html?hp=l10

        President Obama stepped into a racially charged police shooting in Missouri on Thursday, calling on local police to show restraint with demonstrators as Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. criticized the authorities’ military-style tactics and Gov. Jay Nixon ordered state police to take over security in the roiling town of Ferguson.

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/14/obama-scolds-police-missouri-must-be-held-higher-s/

        Liberal Washington Post art critic Philip Kennicott hit President Obama for urging healing after race riots and a militarized police response in a St. Louis suburb, arguing that his administration “has presided over the enlargement of the problem” of a deep distrust in authority.

        http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/15/liberal-wapo-columnist-obama-policies-helped-cause-ferguson-fiasco/

        Input anyone? Opinions welcome.

    • kevin emry

      rite on whatever the panthers investigation concludes is no doubt true after all we are now ruled by the black man and dare not vote otherwise without a death certificate now perhaps mr. brown will vote

      • dan9el

        Well, think of it,.. if they have the nerve to do this; – http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2008/10/i-found-a-cat-t.html

        « Who is the real Barack Obama? | Main | “Sissy, that should be in Bartlett’s” »
        October 09, 2008

        “I found a cat that was registered to vote”

        When a cat registered [presumably as a Democrat] to vote was discovered in Cleveland’s Cayahoga County a few years back, any sensible person would have realized at once it was fraud. Just ask Tiny, above in a post-catnip stupor (note flakes on fur). Cats are neither Republican nor Democrat but Independent.
        “I found a cat that was registered to vote,” Bill Sammon is telling Megyn Kelly on Fox News re Acorn (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) voter-registration fraud in Ohio back when Bill was an investigative reporter covering the Cayahoga County Board of Elections for the Cleveland Plain Dealer during a previous election:

        They weren’t sure whether it was a DemoCAT, fat-CAT Republican or working for Ross PURR-ot. Acorn isn’t just some left-wing group. Its a group that Barack Obama used to work for and served as an attorney for suing the state of Illinois to implement the motor-voter law.

        http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2008/10/i-found-a-cat-t.html

        Now, what – any of you out there – think the FRAUDULENT FACTIONS FOR THE OBAMA ORGANIZATION ARE WILLING TO DO ANT ANY TIME GIVEN?

        Input anyone? Opinions welcome.

  • Gary LaBelle

    The portrayal by the general media is criminal, but the reaction of the community is telling. Violence, and looting? Inappropriate display for civilized people. Whether the shooting, and unfortunate death, was criminal or not, that is NOT the way to act!! Shameful and embarrassing behavior.

  • landofaahs

    Wait for all the facts. It’s so easy. But people who cannot control their passions will never learn.

  • 4b4mac

    Exactly what is so shocking? The scenario seems quite familiar.

  • Schteveo R

    Don’t you just love it when things like this blow UP in the faces of the race baiters? I don’t think he should have been shot for the robbery. But the fact that he roughed up what appears to be an older lady, leaves it open as to what he did when he was stopped. And it’s rarely someone’s first encounter with LEO’s that gets them shot.

    I can’t wait to see how this plays going forward, should be interesting.

    It’s been my experience, that some big guys like him, that small minority of mean ones, have little or no regard for their own safety. They ass-u-me that they are invincible and they just charge straight ahead. He guessed wrong.

    • Gregory Downey

      Since you haven’t digested the facts either: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

      • Schteveo R

        I’m not sure where your ‘facts’ are coming from, but I’ve never read that he was shot moving away. And the shot that has everyone pissed off, is one to the top of his head, that some are calling a coup de grace, but is most likely from Brown falling forward as the shot was fired.

  • Kevin Koloff

    Guilty until proven innocent……

    • Gregory Downey

      That’s about what it amounts to…

  • racindavid

    “Oh but he was such a nice boy… he never hurt anyone…”

    “Yes but we have him on video strong arming the store clerk…”
    “YOU’RE a RACIST !”

    And so it goes….

    • Gregory Downey

      Since you are obviously an idiot as well: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

  • marlene

    i believe the evidence not only was the criminal who robbed and assaulted someone, but also the testimony and eyewitness statements that brown was shot for atttempting to lift the officer’s gun. another trayvon excuse for racist rioting and racist DOJ intervention.

    • Gregory Downey

      Hey – IDIOT – GET A FREAKIN CLUE ALREADY: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

      • Bubba66

        Skippy, give it a rest, this what the 6th or 7th time you’ve posted this same B.S. paragraph. Did you just learn how to copy and paste???

  • 40Helen60

    It won’t matter if the officer acted in self defense, if Brown attacked the officer and was determined to kill a white police officer, the mobs are out for blood and they don’t care for the truth. If Brown had taken that officers gun and shot the officer in cold blood, not one word would be said, but let a black kid get killed while committing a crime, oh that’s racist and we have to kill us some white police. Where’s the justice for those two babies who were gunned down in cold blood in front of their mothers? Those were black kids with guns and they weren’t even old enough to buy cigarettes. They laughed and ran away. Where’s the justice for the victims, many are brutally beaten and many are murdered, in those Knock Out Games? These mobs are 15 against one. I guess it’s okay for black kids to shoot other black kids, but you won’t hear a word out of racist Sharpton and Jackson. Oh, let’s not forget Obama is constantly sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong. He’s part of the problem. But, you know, he doesn’t give a d….. about human life; black, white, brown, or any color, he’s just going to instigate and be part of the problem. He is the one acting stupidly.

    • jimbo

      The Ferguson PD is a BIG part of the problem, then the mayor, Governor and Finally the Muslim in Chief the biggest part of the problem. Nothing like trickle down diarrhea slinging our elected officials are the best at as no one can do their damn job and lead.

  • http://tinyurl.com/fromZCme Pastor CJ

    America was founded and thrived on the RULE of LAW.
    Under Obama its all lawless all the time. Blacks in Ferguson town believe they can rob and bully and its no crime. News media do not attribute their lawless behavior, rioting, looting, to a crime. News are quick to blame the law.
    Officer Darren Wilson is black. The shooting was not racist.
    Does anyone care about TRUTH, FACTS, LAW?
    There appears to be a lot of shared blame all over here.
    It is NOT OK at all for this thugtown to threaten the lives of the Wilson family!

  • vadave

    Gee, the giant in the video doesn’t look so gentle. So much for the easy-going, fun-loving, innocent child that wouldn’t hurt a flea that was simply taking an evening stroll with his buddy discussing what a total blast their first day of English 101 will be……….

  • Vegas_Bob

    So much for Michael Brown being a ‘good boy”, it also explains why he tried to run away from the cop. . .I think the whole story may never be known as it is possible his little friend (who is also on the video) may have been the mastermind of the robbery. . .it wouldn’t be the first time a ‘good boy’ was led astray by a ‘friend’. . .it also makes his friend’s statement of the events highly suspicious.

    • Gregory Downey

      who gives a rats ass why he tried t run away. you do not shoot someone who is retreating and posing no threat. you especially don’t shoot the 7 more times when they have been hit twice and are asking you to stop shooting and showing they have no weapon. It’s you morons that are the reason obama got voted in to office in the first place. you’re too stupid to to understand the real issues.

      • bri12345

        It WAS an imminent threat b/c the officer was injured from an altercation which had, as you say, nothing to do with the robbery directly except that the officer was in the area after receiving a call. If it comes out that he wasn’t actually injured by Brown then that’s another story. You will probably just jump on a new thread and be a troll then too! Just like you copy and pasted about 20 times already YOU should read the “facts” too, not just the few scraps that support your stance. Both sides of this thing are fishy. Ultimately that officer will be haunted by what happened. If it was justified he will still be haunted because a good person has a conscience. If it wasn’t justified as you seem so set on believing then that cop will be tormented with his guilt for the rest of his life and he will have his just reward. That’s why there’s an investigation in the first place. Cops can’t just kill innocent people thugs or not. A lot has been said on both sides and ultimately YOU and I and everyone else on here weren’t there so we only speculate what we THINK may have happened. Two sides to every story until the media blows it up and suddenly everyone’s an expert!

      • Vegas_Bob

        Actually, you are making assumptions based on the ‘witnesses’. . .don’t you think it odd that there are cell phone videos AFTER
        Michael Brown was shot, but no videos BEFORE he was shot. . .yet all
        these ‘witnesses’ say that Brown had his hands up and surrendering. . .I
        think it very odd that a police officer stops 2 young black men, in a
        black neighborhood and NO ONE started taping it. . .something tells me
        that there IS a video out there of the confrontation that shows that
        Brown attacked the officer and then ran away. . .when the officer told
        them to halt, he turned and taunted the officer. . and for reasons known
        only to Michael Brown; he charged the officer. . .

        There is a witness heard on one of the videos AFTER the shooting telling
        someone that that is exactly what happened. . I say the police find
        that witness before the community silences him.

        And it seems that you are the moron, as I wouldn’t vote for Obama for dog catcher. . .but I bet you did, at least once.

  • Lisa

    I like Gordo’s comments-if it was a white boy, this will all be a non-issue and would not have been in the press…but since he’s not…it’s all over the press and of course…must be racial…ugh! So tired of this!

    • Gregory Downey

      the reason it’s in the press is because the cop shot the guy when he was retreating then shot him 7 more times when he turned around to tell the cop to stop shooing and that he was un-armed. Get A Freakin’ Clue!!!!!

  • marlene

    i believe the evidence that brown was the criminal who robbed and assaulted, as well as the testimony of eyewitness who said he was shot after attempting to lift an officer’s gun. another trayvon excuse for race riots and racist DOJ intervention. maybe if we had a white holder we could level the playing field.

    • Gregory Downey

      Wow you people are freakin just stupid ass dumb: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

      • Marti

        Yes, the officer involved with the shooting wasn’t the same officer who responded to the robbery call. That doesn’t mean that he didn’t hear the APB over the radio when they were given a description of Brown and his ‘witness’.

  • upwithfreedom

    There is absolutely no evidence the cop was at fault.
    What we know is:
    Brown assaulted a clerk and stole from him.
    Half an hour later, the police say he assaulted a cop and was shot and killed.
    That’s all we know for now.

    Brown’s family need some space and condolences here as they deal with their grief of their son being shot and killed and the fact that he was a lawbreaker. God bless them as they suffer through this.

    The race-baiters, cop haters and the media should wait until there is evidence before continuing this story.

    • Gregory Downey

      Hey there… You obviously have selectively indulged the story as well: The cop had no idea he robbed the store. That was not the reason for the
      stop. The reason for the stop was Brown’s arrogance. It’s too soon to
      tell whether the cop should or shouldn’t have fired the first shot. But
      the evidence is CLEAR – 3 witnesses worth who had no previous
      corroboration – that the cop fired a second shot as Brown retreated,
      then 7 more shots when he turned around with his hands up showing and
      stating he was unarmed. Even a petty thug deserves mercy and an
      ambulance.

  • ccccsdad

    Use all the show of force you need. As far as the Brown kid goes, if, and I say again, if he went for the cops gun, all bets are off.

    • Gregory Downey

      Oh so it’ okay to shoot him in the back as he runs away then 7 more times when he turns around to show he is unarmed and ask the cop to stop shooting him? Are you that freaking ignorant?

  • danno1180

    makes no difference—it was clearly an opportunity for the criminals to loot and they took it…………

  • http://thebarton.org Michael Barton

    You try and take a cop’s gun. You’ll get shot just the same. Attempting to steal an officers gun implies you’re trying to harm the officer. Trying to harm an officer with a gun is attempted murder.

  • RockyMtn1776

    They have him on video robbing the store and blacks STILL don’t believe it ! Or don’t want to, he’s “entitled” since he is black.

  • http://www.mrchrisg.com/ mrchrisg.com

    He couldn’t have just clubbed or tasered him?

    • Ariviste

      Maybe or maybe not. It depends on a lot of things, such as who got the first blow in, the difference in size of the two men, whether the officer had his arms penned so that he was unable to reach his taser or nightstick, whether the officer was trying to protect his gun.

  • Lgbpop

    Typical black POS. Won’t pick on someone his own size. No media outlet pointed out that this guy was the size of a house. No wonder a cop shot him.

  • Brian Short

    I agree with Gregory…Brown’s robbery is horrible…But his wrong is not related to his death here unless you believe in Karma! This is a sad attempt by the police to cover their rears! Conservatives need to make sure we side on the side of justice and truth and morality…In Zimmerman/Martin, I didn’t think there was enough evidence to convict Zimmerman. This time???? We’ll have to see how all the facts present themselves, but to use this excuse six days later is a clear attempt to justify their actions.

    • Ariviste

      I am not sure you are right, Brian. The robbery shows Mr. Brown’s propensity for violence. The police told two stories. We need an independent investigation before convicting the officer and rioting.

  • Prof247

    I thought there was more to the story….It sounds like Brown wasn’t as “squeaky clean” as many protesters thought.

    Maybe people like Al Sharpton need to get the truth first before creating such a frenzy in the communities…oh wait, that’s what he lives for :(

  • krayzrick

    Did the officer involved in the shooting, get a radio notice about a ‘large man held up a store’ ??

  • Chris H. Borei

    This DOES change everything about the story, because if Brown did just rob a store, then he had motive to be resisting arrest and to be paranoid of a cop approaching. This would have likely made him confrontational to the cop which fits exactly with the narrative that the officer is telling.

    This has nothing to do with Brown’s character or lack of character but goes directly to his state of mind at the time of the incident and makes it much more probable that he would have acted in the manner the police claim he did.

    • Ann_W

      Plus, it shows how big he was. There’s no way the police officer “grabbed him by the neck and put him in the car”. If Brown was in the back of the police car, it’s because Brown put himself there. How much bigger than the cop was he? Very dangerous situation for a cop.

    • Ariviste

      A person with good character would not have stolen and assaulted the clerk who tried to get him to pay for the cigars he stole. We need to hear the officer’s story and the investigation before we form an opinion. We have hear both sides of Mr. Brown’s character. Now let’s hear the rest of the story.

  • Mike Barnes

    But…but…but…he was turning his life around, he was a good kid, he’s a victim of da man, he could have been Obama’s son, no justice no peace. Send in Holder!!

  • Gregory Downey

    Glenn it is becoming more and more clear to me that a large part of your audience is made up of MORONS who lack any reasonable sense or ability to digest the facts.

  • IM1Ashman

    Why should any of this surprise us? Racial tensions HAVE BEEN PROMOTED AND ENHANCED SINCE OMAMA TOOK OFFICE, and assigned Eric Hold em up, as the AG. “THEY ARE ALWAYS THE ONES WHO BRING UP THE RACE CARD,” and use it for political gain if they can. While the killing was a tragedy, let us remember, Brown struggled to get the officer’s gun and the officer has every right to defend himself from an aggressive subject. Brown was in the wrong, and if he would have stopped and “assumed the position” when the officer asked him to do so, none of this would have happened. But NO, he did the opposite and when after the officer’s firearm. Have any of you served as a police officer? I HAVE and one must realize that every call an officer gets can potentially be his last if he or she is not careful. BROWN DID NOT FOLLOW THE OFFICER’S INSTRUCTIONS, THE OFFICER HAD NO IDEA IF HE WAS ARMED OR NOT, BROWN WENT AFTER THE OFFICER’S GUN, STRUGGLED WITH HIM, AND THEN WHEN UNSUCCESSFUL, TOOK OFF. I GUESS ALL OF YOU BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES THINK THAT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR BREAKING THE LAW OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY….JUST LIKE AT THE BORDER….JUST LET EVERY DISEASE RIDDEN PERSON, EVERY GANG MEMBER, AND EVERY POTENTIAL TERRORIST JUST COME WALTZING UP TO AND THROUGH OUR BORDER. HOWEVER, I DIGRESS. IF YOU BREAK THE LAW, YOU MUST SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS…AND THIS BLACK, RACIST, MEDIA LED FRENZY IS A JOKE AND IT FITS RIGHT INTO PRESIDENT OMAMA’S FAR REACHING LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE AGENDA….TO FURTHER DIVIDE US BY THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN SO HE CAN ACT AS THE HERO…AND HE HAS THE NATION’S #1 LAW ENFORCER, HOLDER, BACKING HIM UP IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. We are or were, a nation of laws before Omama took office. For OUR Republic to succeed and remain FREE FOR ALL, we must remain a nation of laws and this nation must start enforcing ALL OF THE LAWS, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT FIT THE PRESIDENT’S WARPED, RACIST, POLITICAL, ANTI-REPUBLIC, PROGRESSIVE, FAR LEFT AGENDA.
    Remember, all are supposed to be EQUAL under the law, and protected under that same law….and that means the officer that is getting crucified right now for protecting himself from a big, aggressive, man, gets that protection as well–especially for protecting himself from an attack by another…or for those who disagree with me, I guess you think the officer should have just let Brown take his fire arm….and then a white officer would have been shot by a black man and there would be no outcry at all–from the media, the president, the black panthers–or anyone….Anyone that is, except the cries from his grief ridden wife and children that he left behind because he didn’t protect himself from a man who wanted to do harm to a man whose only desire was to “protect and to serve.” Before you judge him, I suggest you serve the public as an officer of the law as I have…and if you do not have the courage to do so, then lay off the man and let the justice system work, as our constitution and OUR Republic demands.

  • Ben Daho

    Big phking monkey is three of that little guy.

  • Ted Garrison

    All those that say we can’t judge what happened until all the evidence is in are 100% correct. But that seems to apply only to the defense of the police officer. The black leaders, the community, Obama and press are ready to hang the cop without knowing what happened. Typically the first reports of any incident are never accurate. The press and interested groups rush to report to the news – especially if it feeds what they want. People get accused of stuff on the front page all the time, with oops we made a mistake on page 95 a week later or more later.

  • You’reNoGandhi

    Cops lie as much as the criminals, so it’s probably safe to say that in this case a goon-cop murdered a street-thug.

    Moreover, the fact remains that the police have been transformed into military police. And only the ignorant among us fully trust the cops. Remember Serpico? I do, because I lived (survived) through that cesspool. And, frankly, NYPD is still a cesspool.

    Finally, if one honestly looks at the Ferguson goon squad ( i.e., Ferguson Police) it’s obvious that they aren’t a force for good ( a force to protect and serve). That department has got big problems.

    • Patriot Girl

      Police are becoming more militaristic all over the country. I truly believe that “protect and serve” has officially become “harass and kill”.

    • jimbo

      The number of rogue cops walking our streets these days is very scary indeed. The whole mentality has gone down the toilet. Lets see…Border Patrol at highway checkpoints can do whatever they want without any recourse. TSA agents are mentally handicapped goons who all of a sudden have great power. Obama has full cities under military training. All these cities getting full riot gear and military weapons for free cuzz they aren’t needed by our Army. Why would anyone think that local cops are not jealous of the power and unchecked corruptness from all these other agencies and THEY want the same unbridled power! In Ferguson alone, we see the militarization and jackboot authority going unchecked on a hourly basis. When did we SHEEPLE allow this infestation of events upon our cities to be the NORM? Brother, this is all conditioning and brain washing! Now we have reporters being strongarmed and jailed for no reason whatsoever in Ferguson. Bit by bit our Constitutional rights are being waived by militarized jackboot cops as we do have the right to peaceably assemble and let our voices heard when injustice is done. We better wake up and look at the whole picture and start questioning those in jackboot authority lest we wake up in FEMA camps earlier than anticipated.

  • Jim

    Shiiiittttttmaaaaannnnnn,the jussss wnnnn som mo dat gubment monayyyyyy.

  • Steve Politte

    I wouldn’t jump into any conclusions regarding the whole debacle until all is investigated by someone other than the Ferguson Police department. I am a resident of Missouri and live within a hundred miles of that community. For one thing, the Police Chief released that information without consulting the Missouri Highway Department Officer that put in charge of the situation by the Governor of our state. There has been tension between the Department and the black community for some years. I think it would be very wise to wait until the end of the investigation before condemning any side. I have seen the video though, and it does look legitimate. Nonetheless, I will wait until the final outcome of the investigation, if indeed, a fair and impartial one is done. With so much violence going on in our country and throughout the world, my option right now is to PRAY, PRAY. God bless.

  • Laura M.

    In my opinion, even if Brown were completely innocent, the actions of the people rioting make him look guilty my association. It’s ridiculous that these people expect additional respect when they react like this. But these photos totally show that Brown was NOT innocent.

    • jimbo

      According to other news sources, the photo is not Brown at all BUT someone that is “similar” looking. WE all need to hold back a bit and get the FBI to fully and completely make that ID match.

      • Ariviste

        The last videos have identified Mr. Brown positively and the parents of Mr. Brown have admitted that it is he. Their comment was that “Michael was not perfect.”

  • mudslide

    So all the apes that rioted and looted and destroyed property will be turning themselves in now – right??

  • marvthemartian

    When Al Thesharpone shows up you know something is not quite right.

  • Roger Cotton

    Still waiting to learn about the details of the altercation between the LEO and Brown.

    Until then, I reserve judgment as to whether Brown did or did not deserve to be shot.

    He was, apparently guilty of robbery. And, he posed like a gangsta wannabe in photos. So, any attempts to paint him as some kind of saint will obviously be suspect.

  • triplet mom

    When I first heard of this I was under the impression it was a little kid but how the headlines read. This was not little kid, he was a very big young adult. I certainly do not condone killing but if he attacked me and I had a gun I would have used it to protect myself also. If reports are true and he attacked the police officer. Now if the office shot with no provocation then he needs to pay the price for the shooting…end of story, I am sorry for the families loss, but there is not need to riot and the violence that is going on now! people need to truly GROW UP!!!

    • Ariviste

      Mr. Brown was 6 ft. 4 in. and weight almost 300 lb. From the way, he assaulted the store clerk, he was far from gentle. We need to wait until the whole story has been told.

  • Bertchik

    But…but..I thought he was just a “gentle giant”!

  • Brendt Pederson

    How can anyone comment on this based on a few facts and not all the information.

  • Hy Alldredge

    In these types of cases people have to have the b@lls to tell the media to go pound sand and stop releasing little tidbits of information as soon as they find them. The media has shown itself to be completely irresponsible, as in the Trayvon Martin case, and is filled with people who wildly speculate based on little to no evidence. Sometimes it’s just idle blather but in this case and others like it they are actively inciting violence and civil unrest, not to mention the complete poisoning of a jury pool. Sorry but the public does not have a “right” to any of this information until it comes out in a trial.

  • believe

    Listen to one Black man that has the answer to the Black peoples problem.
    This will show real intelligence, Jonathan live in Ferguson, Mo.
    This is one place to go Facebook,Stroll down and listen to him.
    head lines “Black man has Vital information for the Race Riot”.
    another place, http://westernjournalism.com. at the top of this page push on VIDEO then go down to the title like I showed above. He quotes scripture to show comparisons.

  • http://drudgereport.com/ Myles Standish

    Starting to look, per usual, that the victim was not the innocent, college-bound saint others would have us believe. Had the victim been white we wouldn’t have even heard about it. Lets say the victim had been white — much chance that rioting and looting would have resulted? Very UNlikely. For one thing, the press would have been bored. For another, Al and Jesse would have stayed home plotting new ways to race-pimp, and printing up a new supply of one-color race cards. Thirdly, rioting and looting is not the normal response of whites to a shooting death.
    So long as one-trick ponies like Sharpton and Jackson make their living off of racism, you can bet the farm that they’ll continue to do everything in their power to keep racism alive and well…manufacturing it where necessary, and keeping blacks oppressed, angry, hateful and bitter.

    • Ariviste

      And the Black Panthers, too.

  • Ron Krandle

    “Well…….just because he shoplifted doesn’t mean he deserved to die.” “Just because he hit a cop and tried stealing his gun doesn’t mean the cop had to defend himself.” “Just because there were riots doesn’t mean the police had to wear riot gear.”

  • Robin Watson

    it isnt alright to steal and push people around but it also isnt alright to kill for no reason either

    • TerryHaryett

      We don’t know it was for no reason.

      • James

        We do know that the cops need to have a little power taken away from what they are currently capable of.

        • Waclaw Jerzy Borken-Hagen

          This doesn’t yet look like a case I would base your recommendation on.
          Can’t take power away from them on a whim and expect them
          to do their job.

      • Robin Watson

        i didnt mean anyone specific. Im speaking in general terms.

      • Robin Watson

        i didnt mean anyone specific. Im speaking in general terms.

    • Ariviste

      We don’t know whether there was a reason or not, at this point. The officer was injured and taken to the hospital, and Mr. Brown is not a little teddy bear from the videos taken of him assaulting the store clerk. We should not be saying Mr. Brown was killed for not reason unless we know that for a fact. It is as unjust to the officer as so many think Mr. Brown was killed unjustly. There is a good chance that Mr. Brown attacked the officer. The witness, Mr. Johnson was the person in the store with Mr. Brown when he stole and assaulted the store clerk.

  • Jr1776

    Always the protected species, because they were slaves, Oh wait they all died by now !

  • speedeesam

    Deja Vous. How convenient that the Black Panthers arrived just in time to break up the Police Chief’s address. Another opportunity for the A.G. to send his minions down to help the cause. And, what is up with the Police Chief LEAVING the interview in the hands of a radical with no right to be there? There is definitely a problem in Ferguson. Until all officials follow the Laws, strictly, there will never be a solution.

  • jimbo

    I wish people would do their own investigations and look at all the evidence so far. It has already been stated that Brown looked “similar” to the photo but it was not him afterall. The so called “officer” came upon the boys WALKING down the middle of the road and directed them to please walk on the sidewalk for their own safety. Nowhere, in the “officers” first words or involvement with the boys did he suspect they were the thieves ie. no sirens or flashing lights to apprehend the boys for questioning. So…in the “officers” mental state and training his actions did not ever perceive these boys as suspects. So far So good. It wasn’t until the boys may not have “moved” fast enough to the sidewalk that the “officer” proceeded to use his car and strongarm tactics to provoke and instigate the situation and events that followed. Whoopsy now we get into the he said she said part. Black, yellow, or red skinned there is NO way a trained officer with 6 yrs. of experience on the PD serving in this city OR any city lets a simple situation get out of hand in a few minutes where a whole clip of bullets is pumped into anyone who is holding up their hands and on their knees. It is sure funny how sheeple on here can convict Brown cuzz he ain’t no college kid but give full gratis to a corrupt police department and officer who in FACT clearly gunned down and killed a boy while on his knees. What is clear and apparent is this “officer” used very poor judgement and lacked the necessary training and thought processes to control the situation from the get go. WE are supposed to hold those officers to a much higher standard of civility and clearly the Arian jackboot mentality this “officer” portrays sours the community perception of law enforcement across the USA. I guess we will have to wait and see what other facts come to light.

    • EngelsMarx1848

      You don’t know what your talking about. . You are speculating

    • Ariviste

      Perhaps you should take another look. Pictures from another angle clearly show Brown full face and his parents have identified him as being the person robbing the store. Since the chief gave conflicting stories as to what the officer knew or didn’t know about the person he stopped walking down the middle of the road, I will reserve judgement (as should you and others) until the full story is known about Mr. Brown. Since the officer sustained injuries, there is reason to doubt that Mr. Brown fell to his knees and surrendered, especially since he bullied the store clerk, pushing and shoving him. The witness was proved to be the person in the store at the time of Mr. Brown stealing the cigars, which damages his creditability. Since no one knows the true story, we should all reserve judgement until such time as the real story is known. I have read accounts that Mr. Brown had a criminal record for burglary, assault, and weapons charges, but since I have not researched that, I will not comment on that other than it is a possibility. No matter what happened, no person has the right to destroy the property, steal the property of, or assault any innocent person, no matter what injustice he thinks has been done.

  • whatsthatagain

    I’ve heard more than one news account describe the assault at convenience store as an altercation; and of course the kid is being called an “18 year old child”; but holy cow… he’s huge.
    I can’t step into the cop’s shoes and know why he pulled the trigger, but If that dude were to charge me (we don’t know if he did, I’m just sayin’), I don’t know what I would do.

  • tonybigs

    People do bad things and then ask why bad things happen.

    Don’t do bad things.

    While the two incidents may or may not be directly connected, how would the self-knowledge of the robbery have affected Mr. Brown’s actions? How about Mr. Brown’s reaction towards the police when confronted? If the officer had known about the robbery how would the officer’s actions have been affected? More guarded? Backup?

    If the robbery was as depicted, Mr. Brown had knowledge that he, himself had done something very bad, with violence and, perhaps, had no idea that the officer didn’t know.

  • vnamvet1969

    He wasn’t a kid either. I helped put 17 and 18 years olds in body bags during the Viet Nam war, and most service men join around that age. I haven’t seen any sorrow for them when they are being killed in Afghanistan. From the size of this “kid” I would have shot him too, if I were the officer being confronted by this hoodlum.

  • John H. Kohlenberg

    We are really getting sick of hearing the blacks can do no wrong.

  • normanleen

    One more bad guy off the street.

  • jalina susan stutte

    The young man was a THUG and sometimes THUGS pay for their crimes with death. I think the parents should have done a better job of raising him.

  • Ron Gilmore

    I’m just not sure what this video has to do with anything? Let’s all agree he robbed a store, let’s all agree he attacked (minus a weapon) the cop, still can’t believe that meant he needed to be shot while he was walking away. did he put up his hands to surrender??? don’t know, he was walking away, cop couldn’t be fearing for his life at the time..maybe cop was pissed off, kid fought with me, kid isn’t listening to me, kid called me a “lady’s vagina”.. don’t know, don’t care. He needed a nice tazing, maybe a brutal night sticking, just not sure how he ended up with numerous (as many as 3-5) bullets in him. I have always given deference to the cops (90%) of the time I’m ok with a police shooting. Police chase going on last 1hr, suspect wrecks car, cops surround him, suspect hits gas and lunges car fwd at cops…I’m generally cheering for a few more bullets to be pumped in the dude just to ensure he’s dead. I believe Rodney King should have stayed down, I know I’m going to piss off blacks and whites here, don’t really care, tired of neither side being able to actually look at the facts in a case, and base their opinions on those facts, with color of skin left out of the equation. Hey black community leave open the possibility that a black man may actually be guilty, and deserve arrest, a beating if he resist, and may be shot if he has a weapon, or if cops feared he was reaching for a weapon. Hey white community, leave open the possibility that a black man may be innocent, he may actually be stopped and harassed just because he’s black, he may be beaten just for asking “what did I do”, he may be shot and killed for no good reason. Hey black community, the white community may ask you where the outrage, protesting, and looting was every time your own community killed a member of your own race, including children, over a pair of tennis shoes. It’s a valid question, think about it. Why are you more upset about 1 murder of a black kid by a white cop, than you are about 100 murders of black kids by your own????? Was Mike Browns life more valuable than the lives of the 100 your community killed???? Hey white community, the black community may ask you why you can’t see how there might be outrage in the black community when a black kid is gunned down by a white cop, it’s a valid question. Ever thought how you might feel if you were the majority race in a community but only 3 of the police in the community was of your race?? doesn’t matter why, doesn’t matter that there are not enough of your race putting in applications for these positions. do you understand how you might feel about it. If you were consistently pulled over, doesn’t matter why, might you feel like you were being attacked/singled out based on your race. Can’t you understand how you might feel if one of your kids was murdered and members of the opposite race consistently brought up the crap you do to justify this murder???, how might you feel about it? if it were your son, same situation as we know now, would you feel any differently?? I’m not asking for us all to get together and sing kumbaya, not asking for us to become best friends, I am asking that we pause for a moment, review the facts in a case, and try to understand both sides before coming to a conclusion. I am asking that we recognize that we have more in common as a people of this great nation than we do differences, that we need to unite as a nation, and understand we have enemies in this world, people that want to kill us solely because we are American’s, we certainly have and should have greater enemies than each other.

  • MARYANN33

    Who says he should not have lost his life…You do not know that yet..Let us hear why the policeman shot him more than once….Invincible youth can put their own life on the line by stupid actions…

  • MARYANN33

    Our pres is for whomever has the dark skin…guilty or not…

  • millerstwo

    This is simply another case of neighborhood blacks and the press ‘jumping the gun’ creating unfounded bias against the cop and hoping against hope that maybe this time the black ‘victim’ won’t end up being a druggy or a gangster giving them an excuse to loot and riot.
    I just read an update and surprise, it seems that Michael Brown isn’t the poor innocent 18 year old kid his Mom tried to portray. Seems that the authorities now have pretty strong evidence against Brown, his lying buddy and vindicates the cop who shot the idiot.
    To all of you potential looters out there, I have a feeing you still will get your chance!

  • smc

    We are living in lawless times. Very few people have discernment, either. These are the days where one cannot tell the difference between an assailant (someone who assaults another), and a victim (someone who defends themselves from an attacker). God has taken His hand off this country.

  • sactownhero

    The officer’s name is Darren Wilson…and he’s black.

    • Jeff

      Wrong officer, there are two Darren Wilsons and the black one is on another police force.

  • mofo13

    how does this change that the man had his hands up, he was unarmed, and he was saying “don’t shoot”??

    If you all think it was a good shooting, then ALL OF YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT LONG AGO merely for the simple fact that you’re all idiots. Your stupidity should be punishable by death, from multiple gunshots, while you stand, unarmed, and pleading.

  • Sassy3000

    So after all the damage those drooling half-wits have done while rioting, it turns out it was for nothing! RME

  • patmyass

    It doesn’t matter anymore. The narrative has been set and irregardless what the truth is, the officer is guilty. The race baiters, the instigators are out in full force. We’ve even been told that it was wrong to stop the people from rioting. That was a proper response. Now if the officer did shoot Brown when he was trying to surrender, then he deserves to be punished. But the truth means nothing now. All that matters is the narrative. And that is, “White cop bad, shoots innocent, unarmed black man”.

    • Sassy3000

      Only drooling half-wits would have the audacity to claim it’s wrong to say that to stop pukes from rioting like ignorant savages is wrong! I’m guessing that laughable head-up-the-butt BS is coming from knuckle-dragging half-witted liberal morons who don’t have any businesses or homes in that area.

  • Sassy3000

    The idiot who is attacking George Zimmerman is either a pathological liar or a complete moron!
    Treyvon WAS acting in a very suspicious manner! Hello! on the 911 Tape George reported someone was walking very close to the houses and peering in. Like MOST Burglars scouting out potential targets would do. Treyvon was a Thief, A bully, a Drug use. He stole money out of his own mother’s purse. He cut school. School Officials found stolen Women’s jewelry inside of his locker but only suspended him for skipping school. He was NOT visiting his father! He has been sent to live with him because his mother could no longer handle him.
    There are pictures of him on his cell phone of him holding a gun. There are text messages of him asking where to buy one.
    George had every right to follow that punk! 911 Operators DO NOT have the Legal Authority to tell people what to do! They can ONLY advise! Period! And yet again the pukes at an NBC OUTLET deliberately altered a tape to create a false impression. This time around though there were honest People at FOX NEWS around to play the REAL UNEDITED AUDIO TAPE which proved that NBC OUTLET ONE TO BE FALSE!

    I KNOW WHAT THAT PUKE IS DOING! HE’S TRYING TO ESTABLISH A FALSE PATTERN of Black Men being Shot for “No Reason”. That’s what some people ALWAYS SAY! I remember seeing a video years ago of a mother telling reporters that her son was not guilty of beating someone up because he was “Non-Violent”! And when a Reporter asked her a question she didn’t like, SHE ATTACKED HIM! LOL
    There is a strong possibility that Michael Brown WAS guilty of Strong-Armed Robbery! No one is saying we are glad he’s dead. But that does shed NEW LIGHT on the situation. Except for those who make a living off of Race-Baiting! Like the PUKES IN THE LIBERAL MEDIA!

  • Isaac Shelby Baker

    Live as a thug, die as a thug.

  • matureone

    OK I think the next time a black shoots a white we all take to the streets, invite the KKK and let’s see who else……………….after all he will get off so we might as well get our chance at the media rage!! And no one thought to say anything about, at the same time, 20 or so black youths were killed by other black youths in Chicago but no media mentioned that did they??

    • HomeAgain

      I can’t afford to take off of work every day!

      • matureone

        I liked that comment but it’s a shame that it sure seems that way!

  • fawnday

    Officer Wilson should be commended as a hero. This may be the first time any officer started out being labeled a hate-monger and ended up being applauded. All the people protesting across the country in race riots and the talk hosts who had topics about how the cops overstep their bounds are probably feeling pretty stupid tonight.

  • Sky Surf

    M. Brown’s mother and liberal media repeat at nausea that he was “in a few days about to start a college”. Well, we do not have any hard evidence that he was to start any educational program. Then, what they intentionally (to arouse anti-police and anti-whites emotions) label as a “college” are in reality “Educational Centers, Inc.” a for profit outfit to milk federal educational $$$ while training people in Automotive, Health & Beauty, Culinary, etc. occupations.

    But at time when children across the nation are about to return to schools or start colleges (real colleges) manipulators and opportunists can’t resist to put this spin on apparently problems with law and criminality having “kid” who towered over the poor store clerk where he supposedly try to steal packets of cigarettes.

  • will

    Just another thug.

  • Suni Godbold

    The latest reports say that the interviewed witness has been released. The video shows that he accepted a box of $400+ cigars. Is he not accountable for receiving stolen property?

    • Jeff

      The cigars handed to the accomplice were set back on the counter by him. Technically, the accomplice did not steal anything but was there with Brown. And the total theft was $50

  • Suni Godbold

    It’s not over until the fat woman sings. We can post and spout off until hell freezes over, nothing changes.

  • Jeff

    So far, the allegations look like this upon new report: Brown and accomplice go into store, Brown steals cigars, confronted by store clerk and clerk was pushed aside. Brown and friend exit store and walk down street. Officer tells them to get out of street not realizing it was Brown until he sees cigars in hard, some sort if altercation took place after that realization…Brown shot down.

  • petunia

    And still no one is backing down, the citizens of Ferguson are scared and trapped in their homes afraid to come out with helicopters over head all night. Business owners suffering because these people want what? A name? Now they have it there are death threats…. How does this help? The people of Ferguson have lived side by side – mixed for years. The police are great people who know their community and keep it safe. This policeman was responding to a robbery and encountered two punks who would not listen but instead refused to get out of the road when told to do so. We don’t know what happened for those few moments but the policeman was hurt so this is no innocent. Let justice be done correctly and go home and let Ferguson and their citizens live in peace! The tension this has caused in north county is palpable and the community is sad sad to see these people on the streets. I’m ashamed of them.

  • Andrew

    Leaping to judgment is always a bad idea. That’s just as much the case for Officer Whoever-Shot-Brown maybe shooting a guy as it is for people dozens, hundreds or thousands of miles away to raise an outcry.

  • Suni Godbold

    And you know this how?

    • Jeff

      About the cigars? Read the police report and sworn testimony from the clerk, as well as video survalience.

    • Jeff

      These are “swisher sweet” cigars or cigarillos…they are cheap dime store cigars like cloves cigs, not any type of cuban cigars or high end robbery here, but plenty of them to be valued at $50 as you can see Brown drops them and has to spend a good amount of time bending over to pick them all up in the store video.

  • really?

    getting tired of a media crying wolf everytime a black man is shot by anyone other then a black man. yes, its possible that self defense keeps some from going to jail for murder!!
    tm busted gz’s nose and gz had blood and scrapes on the back of his head. read about stand your ground. you may not like the law, but the law is the law. he had a carry permit and the prosecutor could not prove in any way that gz was not in fear for his life. tm was snooping around in the rain and may or may not have been scounting to rob and gz was part of the neighborhood watch. if tm was not scouting the area, knew how to use his words, and did not punch gz and inflict ground and pound on him, HE WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY! keep your hands to yourself or BE PREPARED FOR A RESPONSE AND BOTH OF THESE YOUNG MEN LEARNED THE HARD WAY THAT SOME PEOPLE DONT PLAY AROUND.
    the media fooled me on the gz case until the facts came out. now, they fooled me again as this newest young black man prepped up to be upstanding and going into higher education friggin robbed a store and manhandled the clerk. i have no respect what so ever for any reporting from cnn or msnbc as they both have 2 strikes with me now. its almost predictable. the sad thing is that real abuses from police and/or black thugs on other blacks may get no media time, because the liberal media is so biased. had either of these poor, dead individuals been white, alien, Chinese, or wolves, i would not defend them in any way either. stupid behavior can hurt you. teach your kids not to be stupid! i remember having a shaved head for years and getting harassed by police. i knew that i had to be more polite, law abiding, and aware then i did with more hair. i have a hard time feeling sorry for thugs and bullies especially when proven to be in court!

  • stokensue

    funny how the moment the Ferguson legislation was put on the spot they some how pull this out.

  • ddobbz

    Not to mention, th officer is reportedly black… Al Sharpton, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

    • http://trevordowns.tumblr.com/ T.D.

      He’s not.

  • ABitterClinger

    I’m wondering when American blacks will stop supporting thugs and criminals? According to these people in any police shooting, no black man is guilty under ANY circumstances. They are always portrayed as a victim. I also wonder why the cops bother to show up to any calls in the hood. As long as they continue to play the innocent victim, they’ll never make any progress in the society. The bleeding hearts in the media also should be ashamed how they cover these kinds of stories.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    right now the community’s up-in-arms because they think the cops’ timing of the release of the incriminating video is assassinating michael brown’s character.

  • nanblan

    The problem herein lies with determining the mental status
    of both the cop and Mr. Brown. Even if
    the cop didn’t stop Mr. Brown for the arm-strong robbery, Mr. .Brown may have
    thought he was doing just that. After
    all, the robbery had occurred only about 15 minutes prior to the confrontation
    between the two. If Mr. Brown thought he
    was under potential arrest for his crime by this cop, his aggressive behavior
    toward the cop could very well have been aggravated by very his fear of being arrested.

  • thedogwalker

    So, what did these poor, marginalized people do with this info? They looted again last night!

  • $118192972

    They should dig him up and shoot him again. I have no sympathy for street thugs.

  • FloridaJim

    There is always “more” just as in Trayvon Martin the race-baiters including Holder and Obama rush to judgment and then investigate instead of investigating thoroughly and arriving at a fair conclusion which all can review. Holder, Obama, race-baiters and agitators want to cloud the issue probably because their man always has a past and record. George Zimmermann was acquitted . Young Mr. Brown is a bully and a thief as well as someone who blocks traffic to show his disgust for the law these are the facts thus far and they certainly bear investigating a lot more. Should he be shot for these crimes, no but more may come out as it did with George Zimmermann embarrassing Holder, Obama, and the race=baiters but they had their moment in the spotlight so they were happy.

  • Yukidongo

    The cop said the kid was scuffling to get his gun, which resulted in him being shot the first time. I know nothing else. Just adding to the supposition. Wait… I know that the kid was 6’5″ and built like a Mac truck, too. And, that the cigars they stole are commonly taken to roll marijuana. Now, I’m done. Regardless…those fools looting, pillaging, and burning down the community should be taken down, or taken in.

  • Don

    This is why we riot? Where is the peaceful protest march with a call for peace, love and charater. Violence is only going to strengthen big brother military police mentality. You will lose further freedom and liberty, as rebellion flurishes tryanny surely will come.

  • makersvstakers

    Since rioting/looting broke out again last night, blacks are tweeting that the unruly were PLANTED there by Ferguson cops to make the “new-guy-in-charge” look bad….he’s Ron Johnson, a black Mo. State Hwy. Patrolman. But Johnson was there, and gave the stand-down order.

  • fawnday

    Just keeps on looking worse for the people protesting. They really need to give it up.

  • kieramccarthy

    my Aunty Audrey got a nearly new yellow Mercedes-Benz C-Class Convertible by working from the internet.

    For more information >>>>>>>>>>> JOBSFISH

  • elkhunt

    the brown boy got kilt

  • elkhunt

    the brown boy should have been shot in the sto…..he assaulted the clerk

  • elkhunt

    another scum bag gets to take a dirt nap

  • AZWarrior

    Brown acted the way HE did toward the cop because he thought thecop was stopping him about the robbery.

  • Nunya bidness

    The racism flows in this comments section like a river.

  • Amanda Ganzhorn

    So he has to search medical attention now to have proof he was getting his assistant whooped……remember that tm and gz were prior to the adorable care act my friend…..he may not have been forced into medical coverage that will now cost him his home in a gated community because it is so unaffordable it will be the downfall of this country!!! Yep a run on and no punctuatuin!!! Eat your “bleating” heart out!!!!!

  • gravyrug

    How does this change the fact that the officer shot an unarmed man? The officer did not know about the shoplifting incident, and even if he had known, shoplifting is not a shooting offense.

  • Firstallie

    And Obama has stuck his foot in his mouth, yet again.

  • mJrocks

    As long as we keep having Mike Brown situations, we’ll make sure you keep having Melvin Santiago situations. It’s up to you!

  • Liberty Letters

    “While Brown should not have lost is life,…” Hey, TheBlaze, let’s leave the commentary to the MSM. As the wife of a cop, if in fact the cop was being assaulted, Brown was going for his gun and the cop feared for his safety and the safety of others, then yes, deadly force is absolutely acceptable, even if there is distance between the cop and the suspect. Anyone taking a CCW class will be taught that 25 feet can be covered in a very, very short amount of time (the distance Brown was from the cop). We were not there and we do not know everything that happened. Let’s just keep sticking to the facts, guys.

  • itzfatcat

    He was such a good boy. The mean old world made him rob the store and assault the cop. If a white man was shot there would be no media coverage or demonstration. This BS is all for show. Another one of Obama’s could be sons.

  • Sean Maguire
  • Bobby F. Spriggs Jr

    Bottom line, a crime was committed, an officer was attacked, both met at the road. The robber could have defused the situation by giving up. He didn’t and was shot. Once you are a felon, and a police officer tells you to stop and you attack, then death is what you ask for. The guy was a thug and got what he deserved.

    • whosits

      Thank you for speaking the truth!

  • averagejoseph

    There are a lot of black males out there who have valid grievances about how slavery has given them the right to rob and kill or otherwise act like a*##*@. Black parents who are concerned about that should just realize that their ideas are old-fashioned,
    and that they need to convince the rest of the world to just “let kids be themselves” and not be so racist. How in the world do horrible tragedies like this and Trayvon happen so often if not for racism? And how do Asian teenagers frequent acts of criminal violence get overlooked, when it obviously must occur at exactly the same rate as with black teenagers. Racist media is all.

    • whosits

      This was not an act of racism. It was a police officer confronting a thug who had just robbed a convenience store, physically assaulted a store clerk, and was running away from a crime. How would you feel if it had been you or your store being assaulted and robbed? You wouldn’t care if he was black or white. He needed to be apprehended. It probably turned bad because the kid was running, knew he was guilty, and didn’t want to get caught. Put yourself in the police officer’s shoes, and think about what you would have done. If you don’t want to get shot, don’t rob stores. Don’t put yourself in harm’s way. If he hadn’t been running away from a risky crime in the first place, he would be alive today.

  • jim

    Under the cover of counter terrorism training, nearly every major police agency in the United States has traveled to Israel for lessons in occupation enforcement, a phenomenon that journalist,s have dubbed “the Israelification of America’s security apparatus.” Israeli forces and US police departments are so entrenched that the New York City Police Department (NYPD) has opened a branch in Tel Aviv.”

  • jim

    It is not only in Ferguson that goon thug cops murder people and they don’t murder only blacks. They are equal opportunity thugs-Whites ,Latino,s and Asians etc-get it also. There are a huge number of murders by police in “the home of liberty and democracy.” During the course of Washington’s war in Iraq, American police murdered more innocent American civilians than America lost troops in the war!

    The American police murder so many civilians that it would take several thick volumes to record the police atrocities.

  • jim

    In the half-century that has passed, gratuitous police violence has spread to the public in general. Today it is not only blacks and Hispanics who experience police brutality. Everyone suffers from it. Being white is no longer a protection. Call the Cops at Your Peril,

    Ninety-three-year-old Pearlie Golden was shot down in her front yard in Hearne, Texas. In Miami, 23 police officers fired 377 bullets, literally blowing away two men trapped inside a wrecked car. The police were under no threat whatsoever from the 93-year-old woman or from the two men trapped inside a wrecked car. In Cornelia, Georgia, a SWAT team made a no-knock entry at 3 a.m. and threw a concussion grenade into a baby’s crib. The grenade blew up in the baby’s face, leaving him disfigured, unable to breathe without a ventilator, and with a 50 percent chance of survival.

    According to the Atlanta Constitution-Journal, the raid produced no drugs, no weapons, no bundles of cash, and no suspected drug dealer. It was just another of the thousands of mistakes routinely made by SWAT goons who put American citizens at risk every time they break unannounced into a home, usually a wrong address.

  • jim

    Govt

  • whosits

    The kid was a thug, and he was lucky he wasn’t shot by the store clerk. The way this thug was acting, it was probably an either way confrontation. If the thug (just take a look at his size!) had been able to wrest the gun from the officer, do you really think he wouldn’t have shot the police officer? There are a lot of if’s, but the media didn’t show all of the pictures that appear above…wonder why! If they had shown them, there probably wouldn’t have been any rioting. And, this thug wasn’t the “all American” kid the media want you to believe he was. If the same thing had happened to me in our store, I would have hit him with a brick or something worse. And, it doesn’t look like this was the first time he had done something like this.

  • Kitty Wolf
  • Kathy Gutierrez

    Stop the Nonsense this punk was a thug

  • Kathy Gutierrez

    When does Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson stop the madness

  • Kathy Gutierrez

    They feed the racial madness

  • G….h.i

    What the kid did prior to the shooting actually matters. In the eyes of a court and any criminal investigation those in law enforcement will look at what took place before,during,and after a crime was committed. In this case of the deceased prior to his death he strong armed a clerk and took off with stolen merchandise. His actions from the store camera paints this guy out to be a petty criminal.

    Leading up to the shooting police was called and soon after he was confronted by a cop who said he had no knowledge of the robbery. I am only speculating but I believe the deceased became violent and could’ve even struggled with the cop. When you attack a cop and that cop believes his life is in danger then he will act accordingly.

    Looking at the photos of the store robbery and what the deceased did to the store clerk.

    Would you trust a cop who’s been in law enforcement for 6 or so years without any complaints filed against him or would you trust a petty thief with violent tendencies when confronted?

    Now why the cop stopped him no idea but I’m sure it wasn’t to assassinate him for being black or whatever.

    I’ve actually heard that the cop stopped this guy because he and his accomplice was walking in the middle of the street.

  • Daniel Brofford

    John Sims you are absolutely right.Blacks want no consequences for their actions. What happened to the civil rights movement where blacks said they wanted equal rights.Now that they have that they want to move on to preferential treatment.We as white people need to stand together and say enough is enough.we will not let the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson come in and demand that a white guy be tried and convicted before there is ever a investigation. They talk about the officer not knowing that this guy was the one who had committed the robbery but brown knew what he had just done and knew that by this officer detaining him that it more than likely would be known before he was let go so he was trying to get away at any cost because strong arm robbery carry’s a lot of time.Eveybody listen to the video the one that they are already thinking that eric holder won’t let into evidence because you have a guy on there that says he seen what happened and it helps the officer and hurts Brown.No matter what happens I will forever protect myself and my family because I would rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6

  • Meredith8587

    As for the protests: peaceful protests are fine but some of the “protesters” are looting. Looters wait for a chance to steal. Reminiscent of the Rodney King riots.

  • Jerry Liddell

    What role have the Black Panthers and other activist organizations played in all of this?

  • MARYANN33

    The policeman could do nothing but shoot him…The shots prove he was trying to stop him by shots that were not deadly…he did not stop.

  • MARYANN33

    Someone needs to be in charge of the lawless blacks…Not okay for Panthers to intimidate people…Maybe where brown learned to do it with the store clerk.

  • disqus_jzF1pgRBYH

    Until we put God back in our schools, crime and lawlessness will continue.

  • James

    I really want Glenn to cover the news about the two contractor witnesses, both white, who say Brown had his hands up and was already wounded when fatally shot by Officer Wilson. CNN covered it here: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/