Substituting for Glenn, John Cardillo interviewed conservative journalist Tiffany Gabbay on The Glenn Beck Program Monday. As someone of Iraqi-Jewish descent, Gabbay shared unique insights on the United States’ poor relationship with Israel during the past eight years.
According to Gabbay, the Obama administration left an unsettled and agitated Israel for President-elect Trump to have to deal with.
Listen to the segment or read the transcript below.
JOHN: Good morning. And welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. I’m John Cardillo, standing in for the vacationing Glenn Beck, taking a well-deserved vacation.
And you must be wondering, well, who is this John Cardillo guy? Well, real quick, just a quick intro on me so you know who you’re going to be listening to, for the next three hours and tomorrow morning, I actually got my start in media with Glenn. But I’m not a media guy. I wasn’t a radio guy. I wasn’t a TV guy. I was a New York City cop. And I started a business that grew.
And so I saw the world through two very unique lenses. One through the lens of a street cop in the South Bronx and the NYPD, the other through an executive, a private equity guy that founded a company. I was an entrepreneur. Company that grew rapidly. And we were tracking bad guys in large online communities.
And I wound up spending a good part of my life in the legislative arena. Testifying to 15, 20 state legislatures. The US Congress, US Senate, and subcommittees on pedophiles and terror fundraising online and all these bad guys and interesting topics.
And I came away with a very unique skill set that was of interest and value to people like Glenn Beck and the others on-air. And they started using me as a guest, as a guy who was coming on as a subject matter expert. And it turned out I really enjoyed it. And it was my calling. And I decided to go on-air. Give it a shot for myself.
Got my start with Glenn about three, three and a half years ago. We were doing political analysis. I loved it, and it just went from there.
And luckily — luckily, it turned into a career for me. And I owe a lot to Glenn. And interestingly, one of the things you’ll learn about me — if you don’t already know me — I know many of you know me from Glenn Beck’s show, from my radio show. I host the Morning Show down in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, where I’m based. But many of you know that I was an ardent Trump supporter from the beginning. And Glenn obviously was not. And he’s still very skeptical.
But isn’t that the great thing about America? Isn’t that the great thing about America? That a media giant like Glenn Beck, who can be so anti a candidate, and a guy like me who can be so pro a candidate, stands in for his show. Because, see, we can be friends and disagree on an issue. And that’s one of the things that’s very disappointing to me. I’m watching — this whole past year, this campaign season, people who were otherwise very good friends, having these fallings out and not speaking to each other and harassing each other. And being very vitriolic and angry with one another on Facebook and Twitter over a political candidate.
I mean, I’ve lost friends, colleagues in this industry, who were on the Never Trump side. And I was pro-Trump. And we don’t speak. We don’t — we unfollowed each other. We blocked each other over this.
And I will say: I was never really the catalyst for that. Maybe it goes back to being a street cop in my 20s. I’m pretty thick-skinned. I don’t care who you support. If you’re a good American and you live your life well, I don’t care who you — well, we can disagree. I think you’re misguided on issues. But I’m not going to personally dislike you.
And that’s why I’ve always had such respect for Glenn, in that he can have a guy like me come in and guest host for him, knowing that we differ on this issue.
But being the giant in the industry that he is and being the guy that he is, want his audience to hear that opposing viewpoint. Want to educate his audience — let his audience hear both sides. It’s just a shame that more people in media aren’t doing the same thing. And I think we should, not just those of us in media, but those of us in general. In general. One of my best friends is a hard-core liberal Obama-supporting Democrat. The guy is like family to me. I even call him baby Obama because he’s mixed race and graduated Harvard Law School.
But our families have done holidays together for the last 30-something years. We don’t let politics get away of this nonsense, of our friendship. We don’t let nonsense get in the way of friendship.
And so it really bothers me when people treat their friends poorly. And I had such a great Christmas, and it’s been such a great holiday season for me. And Tiffany Gabbay is in the studio with me. Tiffany had a great Hanukkah. Tiffany got her start on TheBlaze as well.
And say hi Tiffany.
TIFFANY: Hi, John. Thank you for having me on the show.
JOHN: It’s a pleasure. And the reason I wanted you to be here, because you really have become one of my go-to experts on Israel. And I had a great Christmas, and you had a great Hanukkah. And we had a great holiday season. And we’re going to have a great new year.
We haven’t treated Israel very well. You know, going back to what I was talking about — friends disagreeing, but ultimately backing each other up.
It’s okay for the United States and Israel to disagree. But I find, what we just did to Israel at the United Nations is reprehensible. We were a very bad friend to Israel, who is one of our greatest allies in history.
But more importantly, an irreplaceable strategic partner in what is now the most volatile region in the world, historically speaking. I would argue that the Middle East in a nuclear age is the most historically volatile region in the world. So explain a little bit.
You’ve been studying this. And you’ve been studying it for me. Explain a little bit, a couple of points, what this resolution was, what it means, and things that we can do to mitigate the fallout of this.
TIFFANY: Of course. Well, let’s make no mistake. The — under the Obama administration, the US has not been a friend to Israel for the past eight years. And this was Obama’s final back-stabbing for Israel. He wanted to basically set a fire ablaze and leave it for President-elect Trump to have to deal with, when he — you know, when he takes office.
Essentially, the Security Council Resolution 2334 condemns Israeli settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem. It considers them occupy territory — and it talks about the 1967 borders, which we’ll get into a little bit later because there are no such thing as 1967 borders. But basically what this resolution does is deem the western wall, one of Judaism’s most sacred places, occupied Palestinian territory.
JOHN: Let me ask you a question about that. Because that’s really important. There have been since 2008, allegations of a subconscious anti-Semitism that permeates the Obama administration. You’re one of the most rational people I know. You have family in Israel. You’re a Jewish woman. You’re a Zionist. But you’ve also been very rational. I’ve watched you do hits on other shows. Where you’ve been so opinion-driven that you let the obvious fall away.
Now, with all that in mind — and I mean that, I’m not just playing that up because we’re friends and you’re a colleague. Do you feel that that subconscious anti-Semitism has permeated the Obama administration? Because I do. I personally do.
I think there’s always been this detest of Israel. Maybe it’s come through Barack Obama’s academic career. I think Samantha Power at the UN has been our worst UN ambassador. She has worked against the interest of the United States for as many years as she’s been there. And John Kerry to me is kind of this moronic do-nothing figurehead caught in between power and Obama, who are ideologically identical.
So they needed a Secretary of State that wouldn’t get in their way. And I think all three of them couldn’t care less about the Jewish state and truly want to either be loved by the Middle Eastern Muslim nations. Or they just — they desire to be loved by the globalist community, that European globalist mentality community that they think is cool and invites them to the really ritzy dinner parties. Am I on to something, or is this crazy conspiracy Cardillo theory?
TIFFANY: Definitely not conspiracy theory.
In fact, I think one of the things people get confused about is when they think about anti-Semitism, they think about it the way the anti-defamation league would characterize it. If you see a little green frog meme on Twitter, for example, or someone uses the term “Jew,” you have particularly liberals screaming about anti-Semitism. But people do not realize that being anti-Israel is the new incarnation of anti-Semitism. And that is Barack Obama.
Whether it’s because he feels sympathetic for the Islamic world and he believes that they are truly colonized and oppressed people and, you know, he looks at Israel as the little Satan and as a colonizer and subjugator of, the quote, indigenous Palestinians, which, of course, that’s not true. I think that he’s definitely motivated by that ideology. And, of course, there’s also the cocktail party cred at the end of the day. It’s fashionable and cool to vilify Israel because they’re new, exotic people that the left can align itself with and act like champions of. And those are Muslims.
TIFFANY: Right. And here’s what gets me though: When I — it’s always the people who purport to be the most educated, the most cultured, who have this mentality.
Because when I go and talk to my friends, the New York City cops, the firefighters — and I’ve become pretty well-known media guy in the first responder community. I speak to other cops and fire firefighters and medics and military personnel from around the country. And often, I’ll be on IM with those deployed around the world. We’re just chatting. They listen to my show. Or they follow me on Twitter. Or they’re friends of mine. They get it. They get it. It’s common sense. They’ll send things to me like, “Well, isn’t Israel like our only friend in that neighborhood? Aren’t these the guys who are holding down the fort, we share intelligence — I mean, Jordan has been an ally to an extent. But Israel is a go-to solid ally, you know, in the vein of the UK.
But, look, we haven’t treated the UK very well. Poland has been another staunch ally. Their Special Forces — the GROM, Polish Special Forces were into not just the First Gulf War, rather this war, but also the First Gulf War in the first waves, alongside our Seals and our Delta guys. We’ve treated Poland like dirt. Like dirt. We’ve pulled their missile defenses. We’ve pulled money for their defense.
It seems like under the Obama administration, the nations who have been there, who have put their people on the front lines, to shed blood with ours, have been treated the worst. And the people drawing that blood have been treated the best.
And it doesn’t take a Harvard Law degree to figure that out. Yet, those with the Harvard — I’m not condemning everybody who went to Harvard Law. Some great people. But those in that cocktail party set, that liberal intelligentsia, do they not get it, or do they just not care?
TIFFANY: Well, they don’t get it. And people make the fatal mistake of thinking that college-educated equals smart. It just means they’re indoctrinated into the same school of thought.
You know, and with regard to Obama, this has been, you know, his cause from the beginning, when he went on his world apology tour. It was about cutting America’s role down to size. It was about distancing ourselves from our allies. Israel. The only democracy in the Middle East. The UK. And befriending these despot I can third world regimes, like Cuba, for instance, because they’re going to do so much for us.
TIFFANY: But if you look at Obama’s background, he was raised and indoctrinated through his mother, through Frank Marshall Davis, through dreams of his father into this far left-wing ideology. So it absolutely makes sense that someone with this worldview would want to align with the left entities and to bring America down to size.
JOHN: You know, and I just want to add something that has nothing to do with the Middle East. I don’t know if Americans know this, but one of the things I demanded — and I wrote the White House. I emailed the White House, and I’ve asked this of Donald Trump’s administration as well. I had Katrina Pierson on my show, and I demanded of her.
Joanne Chesimard, aka, Assata Shakur, who murdered state trooper Warner Foerster back in the ’70s, she’s number four on the FBI’s most wanted terrorist list. She lives openly in Cuba. Our intelligence people know exactly — they know her address. She shops at open air markets. We have photos of her.
She lives openly in Cuba. Okay? Her name, Assata Shakur, is the name she assumed when she became a radical. Bill Ayers, Obama’s best friend, named his son Zayd, Z-A-Y-D, after Zayd Shakur, her coconspirator in the murder of Trooper Foerster. Obama never demanded her return. Worse, and a lot of people don’t know this, democratic congresswoman Maxine Waters, in 1998, while a sitting US congresswoman wrote a letter to Fidel Castro, calling this cop killer, this terrorist a freedom fighter, and begging Fidel Castro not to extradite her to the US.
Now, she was convicted. She broke out of prison, She is not facing trial here. She’s going back to jail.
This is today’s Democratic Party. But even worse Tiffany, John Kerry is about to draft another resolution that makes things even worst for Israel.
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