Comedians have historically crossed the lines drawn by the rest of society. They did it in the 70s and 80s with religion, racism and a host of other issues. Today, as the PC culture tries to normalize itself, comedians are the ones pushing back.
“They weren’t ever making these kinds of points in the last 20 years. They were not making the, Hey, get control points,” Glenn said Tuesday on radio. “They were making the point of, We’ve got to move forward. We’ve got to progress.”
To illustrate the change, Glenn played several excerpts from contemporary comedians like Dave Chappelle, Jim Norton and Patton Oswalt.
Has the PC pendulum swung back enough so we can have a little common sense and laugh at ourselves again?
Listen to this segment beginning at mark 9:56 from The Glenn Beck Program:
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This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.
GLENN: Who was it — was it Dave Chappelle? Do you have that Dave Chappelle cut? There’s that Dave Chappelle where he talks about — how is the African-American losing here?
JEFFY: They are.
GLENN: Yeah. He’s like, we’re — we’ve lost our place. I mean, we’ve struggled forever and ever and ever. And now, where are we? And he’s not the only comedian. Who is the other comedian?
STU: Yeah. Patton Oswalt Did something kind of on this where, you know — again, these are not conservatives.
STU: These are liberals who are like, wait a minute, guys.
GLENN: And so was — what’s his name? Louis C.K.
PAT: Here’s Dave Chappelle on the gay movement. Oh.
STU: Right now, I don’t think it’s sounding that loud. I think louder would be better.
PAT: Well, he’s got a very quiet voice. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen him live, but he’s very, very, very quiet.
CHAPPELLE: I get it though. I understand why gay people are mad, and I empathize. You know what, I’m just telling you as a black dude, I support your movement. But if you want to take some advice from a Negro, pace yourself. These things take a while. Just because they passed the law doesn’t mean they’re going to like you. Brown vs. Board of Education was in 1955. Somebody called me a (bleep) in traffic last Wednesday. That’s how long it takes. It takes a minute.
PAT: He’s really funny.
GLENN: He is. He’s really genius. He’s really genius.
PAT: Really funny.
STU: So we have a bunch of clips here of comedians. I’m going to take just a quick break here with Mr. Pat Gray to make sure he has the most updated emails.
GLENN: You’re saying that maybe there’s an F-word or two?
STU: I’m saying we need to be careful to make sure you’re playing the most updated.
GLENN: All right. We’ll take a quick break here and then we’ll make sure that we — we’ve rinsed out their mouths.
GLENN: Welcome to the program.
So, you know, we were talking about political correctness and — and who is — who is at the top of the food chain? It used to be white males. That’s long gone. You’re at the bottom —
PAT: We’re at the very bottom.
JEFFY: Long, long ago.
GLENN: Very bottom. Then it was females. But females are no longer at the top. Then it was homosexuals. Homosexuals are not at the top. It might be transgender. But I don’t think so.
Who is at the top of the female — it’s not the African-American anymore. As you just heard from Dave Chappelle.
GLENN: Now, listen, we’ve got about four comedians that are right now out, who are not conservative —
STU: At all. Exact opposite.
GLENN: Play this. Play this cut.
STU: It’s Patton Oswalt.
GLENN: Listen to this.
OSWALT: I could not be a more committed, progressive, feminist, pro-gay, pro-transgender person, but I cannot keep up with the (bleep) glossary of correct terms. I’m trying! I want to help, but, holy (bleep), it’s like the secret club password. They change it every week. And then you’re in trouble. That’s not the word we use. (bleep). It was just last week. I have hemorrhoids. My (bleep) is falling out. I want to help. I know I’m an old this (bleep) white (bleep), but don’t give me (bleep) because I didn’t know the right term. (bleep) RuPaul. RuPaul got into shit for saying “tranny.” Ru (bleep) Paul. RuPaul, who she laid down on the barbed wire of discrimination throughout the ’70s and ’80s so this new generation could run across her back and yell at her for saying “tranny.”
PAT: So good.
JEFFY: That is a fact.
PAT: Oh, that’s —
STU: I mean, that’s amazing that a progressive — comedians are even noticing how far this has come. And they’re not going to agree with the conservative audience on the points behind it. But that’s kind of the issue here. You’re even taking your own allies. And people who are rooting for you and want you to get everything that you want. And you’re still torturing them over these things.
PAT: The same comedian, Patton Oswalt. Was it his nephew that’s gay that came to him and was talking about how bad things were.
STU: I think it was his nephew, or maybe a friend’s nephew.
OSWALT: Moved to LA. Came out of the closet. Told his parents. His parents went, duh. Now he’s happy. He’s married. Happy. He’s running a business.
But he has a nephew who goes to his old high school. And so he’s really protective of this kid because his nephew is openly, proudly, defiantly gay. Going to high school. And my friend is like, if anyone gives him (bleep), I will burn that (bleep) to the — he’s so protective. And I get it.
So he went back for Thanksgiving, and he’s talking to his nephew. And he goes, is everything okay at that school? You know, I went there. I didn’t have the best time. If you ever, like, want to like talk to me about it. How are things? Are they — are they oppressive? Are they mean?
And his nephew started choking up and said, “Yeah. You know, it’s — it’s pretty rough there. You know, they’re still really oppressive. And it’s pretty harsh.” And my friend, the way he put it to me was my — my inner Liam Neeson woke up, right? He was — like he was thinking, “Give me a name.” Like he just wanted a —
But he kept his cool, and he was like, “Well, just. Let’s talk about it. What’s going on? What are they doing to you?” And his nephew said, “Well, you know, for instance, my gay lesbian transgender club at school, we wanted to have our prom the same night as the straight kids’ prom, and they’re going to make us wait two weeks to have it. So it’s just really oppressive, you know.”
And my friend had to stop himself from saying, “You need to shut the (bleep) up because I don’t think you know what oppressive means.”
GLENN: How true is that?
PAT: Oh, man.
STU: Because, you know —
STU: There was no gay or lesbian club when the uncle went there. There was no gay or lesbian prom. And the fact that you had to hold it on a different day, that actually seems more special. You get your own day. It’s amazing that — to see that happening in — you know, in the world of pop culture. I mean, comedians who are, you know —
GLENN: And comedians lead the way.
STU: And they’re the ones that will constantly walk over lines that the rest of society has drawn. You know, they — and they’ve dawn this forever. They did it with religion back in the day.
GLENN: And they didn’t do this before. They didn’t — they weren’t ever making these kinds of points in the last 20 years. They were not making the, hey — hey, get control.
They were not making those points. They were making the point of, we’ve got to move forward. We’ve got to progress.
STU: Look at these hicks that are stopping — and they still make those points. There’s no doubt.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
STU: But you’re right. It’s the opposite. It’s like, wait a minute. We’re trying to help you. And, still, you’re torturing us over these things. I mean, that RuPaul point is amazing. I mean, I don’t remember that story.
JEFFY: That sure is.
STU: But, I mean, if RuPaul is getting heat for not being transgender friendly enough, you might be going too far here.
GLENN: You might?
STU: You might be over the line.
GLENN: You think?
Well, if you want to be a hatemonger like that, Stu.
GLENN: Then you can hate all you want. The rest of us know.
STU: The rest of us? The rest of us know?
GLENN: Yeah, the rest of us know.
PAT: The enlightened ones.
GLENN: The enlightened ones.
STU: But the Chappelle thing is new. Patton Oswalt.
GLENN: I know there’s a Louis C.K. thing too.
STU: There’s also a Jim Norton. Do we have a Jim Norton clip as well? His latest Netflix special has — I hope they edited this one.
Jim Norton can —
PAT: Yeah, he can get dirty.
GLENN: If they didn’t edit this, I just want to say goodbye now. Thank you — thank you for the time spent listening to us and all of your support over the years.
STU: We do have a delay built in, so if anything happens, you’ll be fine.
GLENN: Here we go.
NORTON: But it’s funny. The whole country is trans crazy. And we’re really obsessed with it. And it’s so funny how when the new thing happens or becomes in the lexicon, you can’t joke about it on TV. Like, I tried to do a Caitlin Jenner joke. The networks were like, no transitioning jokes. And I’m like, well, it’s not even a mean joke. And they were like, yeah, but we just don’t like it. They’ve been marginalized.
I’m like, look, just because you’ve been marginalized doesn’t mean you’re removed from the humor spectrum like everybody — like it wasn’t even a mean — first of all, the network canceled her reality show. How (bleep) is your reality show when you are on a Wheaties box. You’re now a woman. You were a Kardashian. You killed somebody driving. And then, just boring. There’s nothing happening.
And I think Hollywood means well. I think their hearts are in the right place. But it’s a little bit phony. Some of it is just a little bit fake. Because you know how they can’t talk about Caitlyn without saying how beautiful Caitlyn she is. Have you seen how beautiful Caitlyn is? No. She looks like the gypsy from Thinner.
PAT: Oh, my.
STU: He’s awesome. But, I mean, that — look, I mean, that’s, what? Three big comedians. You also mentioned Louis C.K. Maybe we can run that clip for tomorrow or something. But like, it’s a bizarre trend. It’s strange to hear from these people.
GLENN: It shows that perhaps the PC pendulum is swinging back closer to the, you know, let’s have common sense and being able to laugh at ourselves and each other just a little bit here. No execution for words. Safe zones are ridiculous.