Glenn joined Brian Stelter on CNN over the weekend to discuss the issues surrounding gun violence and school shootings. His message was familiar to anyone who has studied Martin Luther King, Jr. It’s about reconciliation.

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Glenn spoke about his days at Fox where he was trying to prove he was right, but he pointed out that designating winners ultimately breeds a group of those who have lost.

“With everyone trying to win and just be right, we stop listening to each other,” Glenn said. “And we come to this place when we think the other side doesn’t have anything to teach me so I’m not even going to listen to them.”

Watch the entire segment below.