Glenn reacts to Graham's MSNBC interview

Glenn didn't get a chance to talk about Franklin Graham's heated interview on MSNBC yesterday so he took it on today. The MSNBC crew relentlessly tried to get Graham to say that Obama is not a Christian, which he clearly refused to say, but that didn't stop the hosts from declaring he said it anyway.

Watch the interview below:

And Part 2:

Mediaite reports:

“I asked him when he was running… how he came to faith in Christ. He said that he was working in the South Side of Chicago in the community and they asked him — the community — asked him what church he went to, and he said ‘I don’t go to church.’ They said, ‘If you’re going to work in the community, you have to join one of our churches.’ And of course, he joined Reverend Jeremiah’s church. So that’s what his answer to my question was.”

“So therefore, by your definition, he’s not a Christian,” Geist said.

“You have to ask him,” Graham said. “I cannot answer that question for anybody.”

"What he's trying to say is 'I'm going to be a decent human being and I'm not going to judge the man's Christianity'," Glenn said.

But what was Graham's overall point? You judge a person by their actions and the content of their character, not whether or not they claim to be a Christian or go to church.

For example - Mother Theresa. By her actions she's obviously a Christian. Someone like Larry Flynt? It doesn't seem like it.

"Everyone knows Franklin Graham doesn't believe in abortion, partial birth abortion. He doesn't buy into the Marxist policies. He doesn't buy into redistribution of wealth. He doesn't buy into any of that stuff," Pat said. "Of course, he's going to wonder where this guy is coming from."

Glenn said that Graham, a preacher, is out on the front lines and leading a congregation of millions to feed and help the poor, live the way Christ intended, and more. Glenn said that even so, the ultimate person who says someone is a Christian is God. Glenn did say, however, that if you judge him by the content of his character he certainly seems to be living like Christian.

In the interview, Graham said, "I was 22 years old when I asked Christ to come into my heart. You cannot be born a Christian. You can only be converted and that is by putting your faith and trust in Christ."

"I asked him when he was running, when he was a Senator, I asked him how he came to faith in Christ. He said that he was working on the south side of Chicago in the community and they asked him, the community asked him what church he went to. He said I don't go to church. Then they said if you're going to work in our community, you have to join one of our churches, and of course, then he joined the Reverend Jeremiah's church. So that's what his answer to my question was," Graham continued.

"By Franklin Graham's definition that would not be a Christian. That is not someone who is converted. That is somebody who said he had to be in a church and he did," Pat explained.

"You know what? He's right by saying I have to take him at his word. What he just said was, the reason why he found Jesus is he went to church because he had to have it politically. There might be more to that story. I don't know," Glenn said.

"He is correct in saying I'm not going to judge him. I'll tell you a couple of things. Now how we can judge a man is by the content of his character. Now how do we know his character? By what he does. Does a man lead an honest life? Does he tell the truth even at his own expense? Let's just make a list of this," Glenn said.

"I'm just looking for character, character traits. Does he surround himself with good, decent, honorable men who may have made mistakes in the past? They may be people who were dirt bags at one time, but now are no longer dirt bags. They're trying to change their lives. Does he surround himself with decent, honorable men and women?"

"Does he surround himself with people of God? If you want to count Jeremiah Wright as that guy, if you want to count Jim Wallace as that guy. The last thing you go to is does he go to church, I think. Because if you're looking for Christ like qualities. If you are looking for is a man Christian, you have to look at what he does."

"Church is important to me, very important. The Sabbath is extraordinarily important to me. It's one of the commandments. So does he keep the commandments, yes or no? But that's one of the last things. If you're looking for somebody who doesn't say I'm a Christian. I met a lot of people who say 'I'm a Christian'" Glenn said.

How does Obama measure up when you look at the list laid out? He seems to fall a little short. After all, he tends to surround himself with some pretty questionable people (Marxists, Communists, Van Jones...).

"What you're looking for here is not the acceptance, but the conversion," Glenn continued.

"It's not what you say. It's has it affected you? Has it changed you? Are you helping other people? That's how I judge are they a Christian or not," Glenn said.

While Glenn did say that Obama does not seem to be someone who has been changed by their connection to faith and Christianity, many would say the same about Glenn himself.

"A lot of people can say that about me. Does that make them right or me right? No, no. Only God can tell you (whether someone is a Christian)."

The conditions in Afghanistan under the Taliban rule — for Americans, allies, Christians, women and more — continue to deteriorate, and the people there continue to plead that we will not forget them. On the radio program Monday, Glenn Beck gave an emotional update on current evacuation efforts, including the tragic story of one girl — an American passport holder — who was not rescued in time.

"I have a pit in my stomach like I haven't had in a while. What is happening in Afghanistan is both miraculous and horrendous," Glenn began. "What's going on right now one of the most amazing things I've ever personally witnessed — the evacuation of Americans, those [Afghans] who helped us, Christians that are dying, women that are under incredible conditions. I see things that I can't show you. I see the pleadings from people who are in safe houses, 'Please, don't forget us.' I see what they're being sent by the Taliban.

"If I die today, my entire life will have been worth it for what you have helped get done, in just the last three weeks. You have saved well over 5,000 people," he continued.

Fighting back tears, Glenn added, "I ask that you pray for those in the Middle East, that are in the midst of doing work, that a Moses-style miracle will happen. ... There are several people that are in dire need of medical care. Friday, we told you — along with the congressman from Oklahoma [Rep. Markwayne Mullin] who had just returned — [about] a father and two daughters that were blue passport Americans, and a mother who had a permanent residence, a Green Card. The daughter was very ill. And they thought, that if we couldn't get her out of there, that she would lose her legs. I got a call on Saturday morning, that we were too late, that she didn't lose her legs. She lost her life, waiting. There are now two Americans, instead of three."

Glenn showered his audience with gratitude, repeating that "well over 5000" lives have already been saved because of their incredible generosity, but lamented that there are still thousands more people yet to be saved.

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Megyn Kelly pulled her sons out of the private elementary school they attended after she learned that the boys were asked "weekly" if they were still sure they were boys. But that's not all that this "experimental transgender education program" taught.

Megyn joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to tell the story, which she thought had ended when the school apologized, and to talk about what's next for America as our leaders refuse to promote actual psychological support for our kids and instead "parade" transgenderism as the solution to their problems.

"When [my son] was in third grade, I found out they unleashed a three-week experimental transgender education program on these boys, with really inappropriate videos. The kids were confused. These are 8- and 9-year-olds, Glenn. They have no idea what the school is even talking about with the trans thing. They got really in-depth, with really in-your-face videos — and then parents complained. And the school did something it hasn't done in its 400-year history, which was they apologized. Even they realized they had done wrong," Megyn explained.

"But, then I said to my son a year later, so did they ever round back to the trans thing? Like, whatever happened with it? And he said ... they bring it up every week. ... [They ask] how many people here still feel confident that they're a boy? Do you still feel sure you're a boy?" she continued. "This is not support. This is not nonbullying. This is indoctrination. And it's deeply confusing to the children, and wrong."

Megyn went on to give examples of how she's seen trans ideology turn "support, nonbullying, kindness, friendship, allyship, on its head."

"The absolute surrender of the medical community to this insanity is a scourge on this nation. It's disgusting what is happening with our doctors," she added. "There are people who are legitimately transgender, or who have gender dysphoria. And for those people, we should be supportive and they should get the care that they need. But what we've done instead, is taken everyone who expresses any kind of gender confusion and said, you're trans. You're trans. And we have our psychiatrists doing this."

"It's crazy," Megyn asserted. "The fact that we're doing this so willy-nilly in the name of allyship and support, it's abusive. It's criminal."

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"Never forget" is not only a tribute to those we've lost, it's a warning that it could happen AGAIN. On "Glenn TV" Wednesday, Glenn Beck looks back 20 years ago to the modern generation's Pearl Harbor moment. A day of infamy we're STILL feeling repercussions from.

But in remembering 9/11, we need to look toward the future because the Biden administration is setting us up for the NEXT 9/11. They bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal, and now we have video of top al Qaeda commanders — who served with Osama bin Laden — returning to the country. But could America survive another terror attack?

Glenn asks former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the leader who brought America back from the brink. He tells Glenn about the moment he learned the Twin Towers were struck, the actions he took to prevent more terrorism, and if he thinks NYC could survive another attack under Mayor de Blasio's leadership.

Glenn is also joined by Rev. Johnnie Moore, author of "The Next Jihad." He warns that Biden's policies in the Middle East are Obama 2.0, and "if you thought ISIS was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. We must keep our eyes on Iran."

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