David Barton: The Jefferson Lies

This morning on radio David Barton join Glenn to discuss his new book The Jefferson Lies: Exposing The Myths You’ve Always Believed About Thomas Jefferson.

Glenn introduced David by explaining how he really opened his own eyes to America’s true history that so many Americans have never heard before. In his latest book, Barton exposes the lies that are taught to Americans about Thomas Jefferson, which is exactly how he opened his interview with Glenn this morning – disproving the claim that Thomas Jefferson slept with his slave, and has descendants from Sally Hemming.

“Sally Hemming didn’t happen,” David told Glenn. “First off, it's really hard to get DNA testing. To do DNA testing in a later generation you have to have a male descendant.”

Pat expanded David’s comment explaining that in November 1998, there was supposedly a DNA test proving that it he had this lineage with Sally Hemming, but that’s not what it did.

“It did nothing of the sort. In fact, they retracted the story six weeks later - nobody carried the retraction – but it was impossible to prove Jefferson did it, because he had no male descendants, and you have to have the DNA of the male descendants,” Barton explained. He later added, “It blew out 200 years of history.  But nobody ran the retraction of that DNA story in 1998.”

“The story you also sometimes hear associated with this one is that it was maybe one of his relatives – one of the twenty-seven Jefferson men – that’s not even true?” Pat asked.

“Not true,” David responded. “They did find that in the fourth child there was Jeffersons DNA – not Thomas Jefferson's DNA, but that's been known for a while too. It’s been known for 200 years that Thomas's younger brother Randolph had a relationship with some of the slaves. You can point to Jefferson's younger brother, but you still can't point to Jefferson.”

Glenn next asked David about a story that he had wrong before learning more about Thomas Jefferson – Jefferson rewriting the Scripture. “I've always heard he took out what he kind of believed were the magic tricks of Jesus. He just went to the teachings of Jesus, and he called them “Jesus of Nazareth.”  It was just the teachings,” Glenn said.

David explained that there was one he did in 1804 at the White House and another in 1820 – bother were called The Jefferson Bible. The one from 1804 he did after hear a sermon that told him the best way to share the Gospel with Native Americans was to make a simple abridged version. They basically took the four Gospels and cut it down into the life of Jesus and gave it to his missionary friends. It explained the Gospel and it was cheaper to print. David also explained that it did not cut out the miracles like many claim that it does.

The version from 1820 was Jefferson’s solution to morality. Jefferson read the teachings of over thirty philosophers and after doing so found that the teachings of Jesus were the best. He pulled fifty of the moral teachings of Jesus and put them together in a book he called The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth – which, David pointed out, is also filled with the miracles of Jesus.

Glenn next asked David about Jefferson’s use of the separation of church and state.

David explained that this was a quote he used that had been in existence for 250 years. Back in 71AD the state took over the church, and for the next 1,200 years it wasn’t the church taking over the state it was the state taking control. They told the church what to enforce, they decreed the doctrine, and when Henry VII wanted a divorce, and the church said no, he said he would start his own church and give himself a divorce. One of the dissenters, because of this, said that there needs to be separation of the church and commonwealth. The pastor of the pilgrims was killed for saying that Queen Elizabeth should not be head of the church. The pastor that followed, John Robinson, became one of the big inspirations for the founder’s view of church and state.

Barton continued, explaining that Thomas Jefferson received a letter from settlers in Connecticut that they were scared to death the government was going to regulate their religious expression. This is when Jefferson said that there needs to be separation of church and state and wrote a letter to the Supreme Court.

Glenn also asked David Barton about Jefferson’s connection to Islamic terrorism. Jefferson printed the first Koran.

“He had the first war on Islamic terrorism,” Barton added, explaining that Jefferson spent five years fighting Islamic terrorism, because twenty percent of the budget was going to fighting extremists.

David closed by explaining the Glenn that the reason he wrote this book was to set the record straight. So of the history of Thomas Jefferson is backwards, like separation of church and state.

“If you've never read a David Barton book, you've not read a history book,” Glenn said. “David is one of the best, if not the best historians in America. He is doing everything he can to turn history back and write it and put it back to where it was and tell history like it was, and to tell the truth, both good and bad. Thomas Jefferson is such an important figure. This is a watershed book that you need to equip yourself with and equip your family and children with, so they know about the truth about Jefferson.  It is The Jefferson Lies: Exposing The Myths You've Always Believed About Jefferson.”

The current riots and movement to erase America's history are exactly in line with the New York Times' "1619 Project," which argues that America was rotten at its beginning, and that slavery and systemic racism are the roots of everything from capitalism to our lack of universal health care.

On this week's Wednesday night special, Glenn Beck exposed the true intent of the "1619 Project" and its creator, who justifies remaking America into a Marxist society. This clever lie is disguised as history, and it has already infiltrated our schools.

"The '1619 Project' desperately wants to pass itself off as legitimate history, but it totally kneecaps itself by ignoring so much of the American story. There's no mention of any black Americans who succeeded in spite of slavery, due to the free market capitalist system. In the 1619 Project's effort to take down America, black success stories are not allowed. Because they don't fit with the narrative. The role of white Americans in abolishing slavery doesn't fit the narrative either," Glenn said.

"The agenda is not ultimately about history," he added. "It's just yet another vehicle in the fleet now driven by elites in America toward socialism."

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Acclaimed environmentalist and author of "Apocalypse Never" Michael Shellenberger joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Wednesday to warn us about the true goals and effects of climate alarmism: It's become a "secular religion" that lowers standards of living in developed countries, holds developing countries back, and has environmental progress "exactly wrong."

Michael is a Time "Hero of the Environment," Green Book Award winner, and the founder and president of Environmental Progress. He has been called a "environmental guru," "climate guru," "North America's leading public intellectual on clean energy," and "high priest" of the environmental humanist movement for his writings and TED talks, which have been viewed more than 5 million times. But when Michael penned a stunning article in Forbes saying, "On Behalf of Environmentalists, I Apologize for the Climate Scare", the article was pulled just a few hours later. (Read more here.)

On the show, Micheal talked about how environmental alarmism has overtaken scientific fact, leading to a number of unfortunate consequences. He said one of the problems is that rich nations are blocking poor nations from being able to industrialize. Instead, they are seeking to make poverty sustainable, rather than to make poverty history.

"As a cultural anthropologist, I've been traveling to poorer countries and interviewing small farmers for over 30 years. And, obviously there are a lot of causes why countries are poor, but there's no reason we should be helping them to stay poor," Michael said. "A few years ago, there was a movement to make poverty history ... [but] it got taken over by the climate alarmist movement, which has been focused on depriving poor countries, not just of fossil fuels they need to develop, but also the large hydroelectric dams."

He offered the example of the Congo, one of the poorest countries in the world. The Congo has been denied the resources needed to build large hydroelectric dams, which are absolutely essential to pull people out of poverty. And one of the main groups preventing poor countries from the gaining financing they need to to build dams is based in Berkeley, California — a city that gets its electricity from hydroelectric dams.

"It's just unconscionable ... there are major groups, including the Sierra Club, that support efforts to deprive poor countries of energy. And, honestly, they've taken over the World Bank [which] used to fund the basics of development: roads, electricity, sewage systems, flood control, dams," Micheal said.

"Environmentalism, apocalyptic environmentalism in particular, has become the dominant religion of supposedly secular people in the West. So, you know, it's people at the United Nations. It's people that are in very powerful positions who are trying to impose 'nature's order' on societies," he continued. "And, of course, the problem is that nobody can figure out what nature is, and what it's not. That's not a particular good basis for organizing your economy."

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Dr. Voddie Baucham, Dean of Theology at African Christian University in Lusaka, Zambia, joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to explain why he agrees with Vice President Mike Pence's refusal to say the phrase "Black Lives Matter."

Baucham, who recently drew national attention when his sermon titled "Ethnic Gnosticism" resurfaced online, said the phrase has been trademarked by a dangerous, violent, Marxist movement that doesn't care about black lives except to use them as political pawns.

"We have to separate this movement from the issues," Baucham warned. "I know that [Black Lives Matter] is a phrase that is part of an organization. It is a trademark phrase. And it's a phrase designed to use black people.

"That phrase dehumanizes black people, because it makes them pawns in a game that has nothing whatsoever to do with black people and their dignity. And has everything to do with a divisive agenda that is bigger than black people. That's why I'm not going to use that phrase, because I love black people. I love being black."

Baucham warned that Black Lives Matter -- a radical Marxist movement -- is using black people and communities to push a dangerous and divisive narrative. He encouraged Americans to educate themselves on the organization's agenda and belief statement.

"This movement is dangerous. This movement is vicious. And this movement uses black people," he emphasized. "And so if I'm really concerned about issues in the black community -- and I am -- then I have to refuse, and I have to repudiate that organization. Because they stand against that for which I am advocating."

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