Ted Nugent meets with Secret Service, talks with Glenn about it

On radio earlier in the week, Ted Nugent revealed that he would be meeting with the Secret Service about the comments he made at the NRA Convention. And what did they find?

"Well I cannot put it in more positive terms. What a couple of professional, cordial, take care of business federal agents they were," Nugent said.

"They wanted to make sure that they understood that I threatened no one's life and we determined that, shook hands and I went and rock n' rolled and they went Secret Servicing," Nugent said.

"They were doing their jobs," he added.

"We just got down to the beauty of metaphors," he explained. "They had to ask basic questions about what I believe and what I meant."

Nugent added that he found none of the questions intrusive.

"Truth and logic wins," Nugent said.

Rush Transcript Below:

One of the guys who is colorful common sense is Ted Nugent. It flew to Phoenix. We're in Phoenix today where we're doing a show and it landed in Phoenix. It got a note from Ted and he said, Just finished with the secret service. So, it wrote him back and said, Do you want to be on tomorrow on the radio and tell the story? And he's here now. Hi, Ted.

NUGENT: Greetings. There's a shortage of effervescence --

GLENN:  -- a list of these things, these conversations?

NUGENT: No. I just got -- find the truth in my coffee. I just opened up the Great White Buffalo Tour last year. So, I'm completely inebriated on the greatest rhythm and blues band in the world. So, you have to deal with me.

GLENN: Okay. All right. So, last night you were in Oklahoma, right?

NUGENT: That's right, yeah.

GLENN: Okay. And you're getting ready for the concert and here come the men in black, the secret service

NUGENT: Yeah.

GLENN: What happened?

NUGENT: Well, I cannot put it in more positive terms. What a couple of professional, cordial, take care of business Federal agents they were. It was a fine young black man and a fine young lady from Oklahoma. We celebrated the celebration of the 20th year of the shot heard around the world and I said a little prayer for the victims of the Oklahoma bombing years ago on that date and we got down to business and they wanted to make sure that they understood that it threatened no one's life and we determined that, shook hands, and it went and rock and rolled and they went secret servicing.

PAT: How long did the whole process take?

NUGENT: Well, you know, it could have been done in a couple of minutes, but we were there for about 40 minutes. And I just cannot emphasize the professionalism. It was a great experience. I want you to know that, Glenn.

GLENN: I don't want to -- it admire the secret service. I don't admire the guy down in Mexico, but I admire the secret service and I've always had a very high image of the secret service.

NUGENT: They're the best. There's no question. These guys are well-trained and they're very intelligent and they're taking of business. They were doing their job. Some maniac, some brain-dead lunatic fringer Mao fan said that Ted Nugent threatened the President's life. So, these guys had to respond, no matter how pooty that claim was.

GLENN: Some Mao fan? So, this complaint was sworn out by the President himself, huh?

NUGENT: It thought that was Mao. Anyhow --

GLENN: All right. Oh, my. Oh, my.

NUGENT: I think it was Wasserman Shoots.

GLENN: Okay. So, can you say what happened? Can you tell us? I've never been interviewed by the secret service. What kind of questions do they ask?

NUGENT: Well, we just got down to the beauty of metaphors and I think the way it scrolled across the bottom of the FOX News screen last night is what it quoted that intelligent people don't have to have metaphors explained to them but just for the record, I think it's on the official secret service record that when I say I fired a shot across the bough of the left wing, it made sure he knew it did not own a battle ship or a Howitzer and nothing had been fired. By the way, that's the only thing I don't own is a battle ship and a Howitzer, but --

GLENN: You're working on that, though, aren't you?

NUGENT: It's just (inaudible) away from my Navy friend, yeah.

GLENN: Right. Okay.

NUGENT: No. It was -- they had to ask basic questions about what I believe and what it meant and it found none of the questions intrusive or, you know, outrageous. They just asked such basics and I gave them the basic responses.

GLENN: That's great. Ted, couldn't have a happier ending, couldn't have a happier ending

NUGENT: No. Once again, truth and logic wins, which, by the way, that was a whew moment because in this moment, truth and logic -- if you listen to the mainstream media or our government, it's almost like truth and logic is not only extinct but has been banned. So, let me stand strong. But let me conclude that, Glenn, by saying that I have always been the tsunami with communications, e-mail and texts through my office. It mean forever, since the Sixties when I stood up for conservation, the Second Amendment, the loonies have just bludgeoned me, but other than the loonies, for every loony attack on me, I get thousands and thousands of thank yous and it mean from every imaginable walk of life. So, the Nugent family knows that we live truth and logic and the American way and people are celebrating it now more than ever because simple truth and logic at the NRA convention ultimately caused consternation and fear amongst idiots. So, let the idiots overreact and we'll continue with the wonderful (inaudible.)

GLENN: How do you feel about the NRA -- I read a story that claimed the NRA took your stuff off of the NRA website. What message should that send?

NUGENT: Well, it did not hear that that happened and I'm not certain that that wasn't a normal procedure based on how they rotate information. So, I'll reserve my conclusion, but the NRA is the greatest family organization in the world standing up for the rights of self-defense and if you don't have the right to self-defense, you don't have life itself.

STU: One other question, some media reports coming in, Ted, is there's reports that you've been dropped from a concert at Fort Knox. Anything to that or is that --

NUGENT: Oh, where does all this information -- I've got to tell you, the meeting we walked out of the meeting where we all shook hands and agreed that no one would release any information, all of the sudden there were headlines with what went down. I've got to tell you that somebody planted a bug under my skin or something because this is fascinating how this really inside information gets out, but, no. That has not happened. There's always that possibility, just like when I was supposed to perform at the request of a dead Navy SEAL, I can't imagine any authority more important than a request of a dead Navy SEAL but somehow political correctness has put the request of a dead Navy SEAL behind someone else's desires. My brain can't even grasp that thought, but it exists.

GLENN: Can it tell you something? I will tell you that I have not -- I've not been blocked or thwarted many times before. I can usually find the information, but the good Navy SEALS and the good people in the military won't say a word to me about any of this, won't say a word to me about this.

NUGENT: Isn't that something? That breaks my heart. These guys are dying for the First Amendment. These guys died for the Constitution and the bill of rights.

GLENN: Won't say a word and I'll tell you, Ted, I've got to believe that they all want to say something but, no, sir, can't talk about that, no, sir, cannot talk about that

NUGENT: We want to make sure that we respect their oath to the commander in chief and I want to reference the President. Whether I identify his violations or his shortcomings, I would never, you know, denounce the President amongst military because they're his boss and I have to respect that.

GLENN: Yeah. No. The other way around. He's their boss, but --

NUGENT: Yeah.

GLENN: And it agree with you. They have to answer to the commander in chief and you don't want anarchy. Those are the people at Occupy Wall Street, but who do you suppose could have pulled that off? Because that wasn't somebody in the military.

NUGENT: It really believe that it was the President. I believe that the President said that when he went to the Memorial for these heroes, that Ted Nugent wouldn't be allowed in the same area.

GLENN: Huh. Ted, strange times we live in. Really odd.

NUGENT: Strange. You know, so illogical, so rude. It use the word soulless. You really have to be soulless to make those kind of conclusions, but you look at the Wasserman Schultzes, just maniacs, really scary, hateful maniacs on some of these networks attacking and lying about me. It's really bizarro. It mean, just bizarro. How do these people live with themselves?

GLENN: Ted, thanks a lot. Great to hear and good luck on the tour. Where are you tonight?

NUGENT: Yeah.

GLENN: Where are you tonight?

NUGENT: Tonight we're in Winnie, Texas. We're going to rock in Texas the next couple of nights. Then we go nonstop until hunting season.

GLENN: All right, man. Talk to you.

NUGENT: God speed.

GLENN: Got bless. All right.

Barack Obama promised to radically transform the United States, and he did to an extent. But he dropped the radical posse and surrounded himself with people from within the system --- like the Clintons -- once he was elected.

But that's not what presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has in mind. He's no Swedish-style socialist. He's a radical, revolutionary communist who has surrounded himself and his campaign with people who openly advocate for Marxism and even support authoritarian governments.

On Wednesday's radio program, Glenn Beck broke down the biggest differences between former President Obama and highlighted just how dangerous Comrade Sanders' vision for America's future really is.

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The number of people serving life sentences now exceeds the entire prison population in 1970, according to newly-released data from the Sentencing Project. The continued growth of life sentences is largely the result of "tough on crime" policies pushed by legislators in the 1990s, including presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Biden has since apologized for backing those types of policies, but it seems he has yet to learn his lesson. Indeed, Biden is backing yet another criminal justice policy with disastrous consequences—mandatory drug treatment for all drug offenders.

Proponents of this policy argue that forced drug treatment will reduce drug usage and recidivism and save lives. But the evidence simply isn't on their side. Mandatory treatment isn't just patently unethical, it's also ineffective—and dangerous.

Many well-meaning people view mandatory treatment as a positive alternative to incarceration. But there's a reason that mandatory treatment is also known as "compulsory confinement." As author Maya Schenwar asks in The Guardian, "If shepherding live human bodies off to prison to isolate and manipulate them without their permission isn't ethical, why is shipping those bodies off to compulsory rehab an acceptable alternative?" Compulsory treatment isn't an alternative to incarceration. It is incarceration.

Compulsory treatment is also arguably a breach of international human rights agreements and ethical standards. The World Health Organization (WHO) and the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) have made it clear that the standards of ethical treatment also apply to the treatment of drug dependence—standards that include the right to autonomy and self-determination. Indeed, according to UNODC, "people who use or are dependent on drugs do not automatically lack the capacity to consent to treatment...consent of the patient should be obtained before any treatment intervention." Forced treatment violates a person's right to be free from non-consensual medical treatment.

It's a useless endeavor, anyway, because studies have shown that it doesn't improve outcomes in reducing drug use and criminal recidivism. A review of nine studies, published in the International Journal of Drug Policy, failed to find sufficient evidence that compulsory drug treatment approaches are effective. The results didn't suggest improved outcomes in reducing drug use among drug-dependent individuals enrolled in compulsory treatment. However, some studies did suggest potential harm.

According to one study, 33% of compulsorily-treated participants were reincarcerated, compared to a mere 5% of the non-treatment sample population. Moreover, rates of post-release illicit drug use were higher among those who received compulsory treatment. Even worse, a 2016 report from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health found that people who received involuntary treatment were more than twice as likely to die of an opioid-related overdose than those with a history of only voluntary treatment.

These findings echo studies published in medical journals like Addiction and BMJ. A study in Addiction found that involuntary drug treatment was a risk factor for a non-fatal drug overdose. Similarly, a study in BMJ found that patients who successfully completed inpatient detoxification were more likely than other patients to die within a year. The high rate of overdose deaths by people previously involuntarily treated is likely because most people who are taken involuntarily aren't ready to stop using drugs, authors of the Addiction study reported. That makes sense. People who aren't ready to get clean will likely use again when they are released. For them, the only post-treatment difference will be lower tolerance, thanks to forced detoxification and abstinence. Indeed, a loss of tolerance, combined with the lack of a desire to stop using drugs, likely puts compulsorily-treated patients at a higher risk of overdose.

The UNODC agrees. In their words, compulsory treatment is "expensive, not cost-effective, and neither benefits the individual nor the community." So, then, why would we even try?

Biden is right to look for ways to combat addiction and drug crime outside of the criminal justice system. But forced drug treatment for all drug offenders is a flawed, unethical policy, with deadly consequences. If the goal is to help people and reduce harm, then there are plenty of ways to get there. Mandatory treatment isn't one of them.

Lindsay Marie is a policy analyst for the Lone Star Policy Institute, an independent think tank that promotes freedom and prosperity for all Texans. You can follow her on Twitter @LindsayMarieLP.

President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani joined Glenn Beck on Tuesday's radio program discuss the Senate's ongoing investigation into former vice president Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, and reveal new bombshell documents he's currently releasing.

Giuliani told Glenn he has evidence of "very, very serious crime at the highest levels of government," that the "corrupt media" is doing everything in their power to discredit.

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For most Americans, the 1980s was marked by big hair, epic lightsaber battles, and school-skipping Ferris Bueller dancing his way into the hearts of millions.

But for Bernie Sanders — who, by the way, was at that time the oldest-looking 40-year-old in human history — the 1980s was a period of important personal milestones.

Prior to his successful 1980 campaign to become mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Sanders was mostly known around the Green Mountain State as a crazy, wildly idealistic socialist. (Think Karl Marx meets Don Quixote.) But everything started to change for Sanders when he became famous—or, in the eyes of many, notorious—for being "America's socialist mayor."

As mayor, Sanders' radical ideas were finally given the attention he had always craved but couldn't manage to capture. This makes this period of his career particularly interesting to study. Unlike today, the Bernie Sanders of the 1980s wasn't concerned with winning over an entire nation — just the wave of far-left New York City exiles that flooded Vermont in the 1960s and 1970s — and he was much more willing to openly align himself with local and national socialist and communist parties.


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Over the past few weeks, I have been reading news reports of Sanders recorded in the 1980s — because, you know, that's how guys like me spend their Saturday nights — and what I've found is pretty remarkable.

For starters, Sanders had (during the height of the Soviet Union) a very cozy relationship with people who openly advocated for Marxism and communism. He was an elector for the Socialist Workers Party and promoted the party's presidential candidates in 1980 and 1984.

To say the Socialist Workers Party was radical would be a tremendous understatement. It was widely known SWP was a communist organization mostly dedicated to the teachings of Marx and Leon Trotsky, one of the leaders of the Russian Revolution.

Among other radical things I've discovered in interviews Sanders conducted with the SWP's newspaper — appropriately named The Militant (seriously, you can't make this stuff up) — is a statement by Sanders published in June 1981 suggesting that some police departments "are dominated by fascists and Nazis," a comment that is just now being rediscovered for the first time in decades.

In 1980, Sanders lauded the Socialist Workers Party's "continued defense of the Cuban revolution." And later in the 1980s, Sanders reportedly endorsed a collection of speeches by the socialist Sandinistas in Nicaragua, even though there had been widespread media reports of the Sandinistas' many human rights violations prior to Sanders' endorsement, including "restrictions on free movement; torture; denial of due process; lack of freedom of thought, conscience and religion; denial of the right of association and of free labor unions."

Sanders also traveled to Nicaragua and met with socialist President Daniel Ortega. He later called the trip a "profoundly emotional experience."

Sanders also traveled to Nicaragua and met with socialist President Daniel Ortega. He later called the trip a "profoundly emotional experience."

Comrade Bernie's disturbing Marxist past, which is far more extensive than what can be covered in this short article, shouldn't be treated as a mere historical footnote. It clearly illustrates that Sanders' brand of "democratic socialism" is much more than a $15 minimum wage and calls for single-payer health care. It's full of Marxist philosophy, radical revolutionary thinking, anti-police rhetoric, and even support for authoritarian governments.

Millions of Americans have been tricked into thinking Sanders isn't the radical communist the historical record — and even Sanders' own words — clearly show that he is. But the deeper I have dug into Comrade Bernie's past, the more evident it has become that his thinking is much darker and more dangerous and twisted than many of his followers ever imagined.

Tomorrow night, don't miss Glenn Beck's special exposing the radicals who are running Bernie Sanders' campaign. From top to bottom, his campaign is staffed with hard-left extremists who are eager to burn down the system. The threat to our constitution is very real from Bernie's team, and it's unlike anything we've ever seen before in a U.S. election. Join Glenn on Wednesday, at 9 PM Eastern on BlazeTV's YouTube page, and on BlazeTV.com. And just in case you miss it live, the only way to catch all of Glenn's specials on-demand is by subscribing to Blaze TV.

Justin Haskins (Jhaskins@heartland.org) is editorial director of The Heartland Institute and editor-in-chief of StoppingSocialism.com.