Under God: Indivisible

July 10, 2012

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On radio this morning, Glenn interviewed Pastor James Robison about the "Under God: Indivisible" event being held the week of Restoring Love.

Transcript:

GLENN: Restoring Love, when we first did Restoring Honor in Washington D.C., it was a one‑day thing and then we added a spiritual event on the Friday night before, and Tania and I rented out the Kennedy Center. And I'll never forget because everything, everything was against us. The Kennedy Center, nobody wanted to come and put that thing together. Nobody ‑‑ the Kennedy Center did not want us there. They threatened to shut us down. They said that we couldn't pray there and they said, "Well, it will just be an opening prayer and a closing prayer." And I said, "No, get them back on the phone and tell them that I'm going to have them pray, every speaker is going to pray. Go ahead. Cancel us." And they ended up not cancelling us, but they hated us every second we were there. They hated us.

And then we went to Jerusalem and we did the second chapter, Restoring Courage. This is the last chapter. This is it. Restoring Love. Honor, courage, love. This one is the most elaborate. On Thursday night the American Airlines Center here in Dallas, Texas is having an event called I think Restoring Freedom and it is from Freedom Works and it is Free PAC. Tickets are on sale for that. They're over halfway sold, I think. It's going to be an amazing thing. People coming from all over the world. I'm going to be speaking there. Some huge names are going to be speaking there. That's a political event but not a party political event.

Then that morning on the Friday, the 27th, we have ‑‑ I believe this is the largest food, food drive ever attempted in America. There are 12 cities. We're trying to fill all these semis up and send them to 12 different cities to fill their soup kitchens. Plus already 25,000 volunteers have volunteered to come in with their families and work few a few hours, work at schools, work at libraries, work in the inner city, clean up neighborhoods, clean up parks, 25,000 people. The coordination of this is amazing. That afternoon there is something else that is going, Under God, Indivisible. James Robison who is a friend of mine, he got together and put together a huge meeting of the minds with pastors and priests and rabbis to come together and talk about the principles of America and what should be said on the pulpit. James Robison is here now with us. Hi, James.

ROBISON: Hey, Glenn. How are you?

GLENN: I'm very good. It was good to see ‑‑ what city were we in when I saw you last?

ROBISON: Denver.

GLENN: In Denver just last week, and you introduced me and you were ‑‑ you were so kind.

ROBISON: Well, you connected. You didn't think you did. You hit it out of the park. It was great and everyone was thrilled beyond words. I want to ask you this. You told me you were going away to be with God and your family which, you know, every time we talk, we talk about the importance of Jesus did that to get up along with God, how important it is for us, especially church leaders who did it so seldom. How was your time with God and family?

GLENN: It was great, James. In fact, you could barely get me off the mountain. It was really fantastic and, you know, I wrote to my business partner on the plane back and I said, I wrote him, you know, just a deal and he ‑‑ he wrote to me ‑‑ when I got off the plane, he wrote to me and he said, "I can tell this was settling because your note is so clear and so simple. I haven't seen a note like this from you in a long time." So it was, it was very settling.

So James, tell me who you've put together for this event on Friday.

ROBISON: Well, it's remarkable. We start in the afternoon and I ‑‑ at 2:30, and I really encourage people to make it an all‑day event. You can get a meal. We will go 2:30 until 5:00, have a meal and then come back with Phillips, Craig and Dean at 2:30 and then the speakers beginning at 7:00. But in the afternoon we're going to have several briefings. One of them will be from the defense, Alliance Defense Fund and they are going to talk about what actually is in healthcare in this package that is imposing an all‑out assault on the community of faith, those who value the preciousness of life as an example, as well as to let church leaders know how they can take a stand when so many of the moral and principle issues have been drug into the ‑‑ dragged into the political arena and how they can stand for virtue. We're also going to have a businessman show how we can take a penny, 1 cent, and balance the budget. This is quite amazing. You're going to be hearing some very dynamic speakers. Plus all of our panelist of speakers from the evening will be there. We will actually be taking some questions in the afternoon from the audience. But you're going to be hearing from Dr. Tony Evans; Dr. David Jeremiah; from Franklin Graham; Dr. Ravi Zacharias; my pastor and the one you listen to so often, Robert Morris; father Jonathan Morris who's seen so frequently on the Fox News. He's such a tremendous Catholic ‑‑

GLENN: He's a good guy.

ROBISON: ‑‑ representative; Samuel Rodriguez, who touches 30,000 Hispanic churches and is just a real leader; you'll hear from Kenneth Copeland; you'll hear from Jay Richards, who co‑authored the book Indivisible with me; pastor John Hagee; Rabbi Spiro, who is probably one of the great economic minds; pastor of one of the largest countries in the country, in First Baptist Orlando, pastor David Uth. You'll hear also from Richard Land, who is the head of the ethics commission for Southern Baptist which is the largest denomination in the country; Bishop Harry Jackson; Dr. Ken Hutcherson; Chris Hodges, who is a representative chosen by the ARC churches which are some of the powerful, largest, fastest growing churches consisting of young people, probably average age from 28 to 32, and they selected Chris Hodges. Jim Garlow will also be speaking; John Hagee. It's going to be a tremendous, tremendous evening. As a matter of fact, if we do not have a spiritual awakening which really puts the emphasis on the power of love. And, you know, love doesn't mean that you refuse to warn people of the danger of their precarious direction and our perilous course, but it does it with compassion. You know, the spirit of God is redemptive. The spirit of the enemy, the liar, the murderer, the deceiver as Jesus called him, the accused of the brethren, that spirit is a spirit of destruction. And that spirit is prevailing in Washington, it is prevailing in an assault on the family and on relationships and on influence and personal responsibility. It's an all‑out assault to destroy the basic foundation that enabled us to become the most prosperous, benevolent nation in history.

GLENN: So I know that ‑‑ I know that, you know, these pastors and priests and rabbis are getting together and I know you're going to talk a little about what should be said from the pulpits and how to say it and the things that, you know, have to warn the flock about, et cetera, et cetera. But people who are going there, are you guys going to touch on at all on ‑‑ you know, let's say I'm a, I'm a Catholic. Or let's just use my ‑‑ I'm a Mormon and my church doesn't really work this way but I mean, I'm a Mormon and so I have this ‑‑ you know, I have this pastor who's I think just going off the rails and I go, I go talk to him and, you know, he's on the wrong side of the issue. What do I do? How do I most effect and help my church get back onto the right track?

ROBISON: Glenn, as you know, that's the reason I joined with a Catholic philosopher as an evangelical protestant to write the book Indivisible: Restoring Faith, Family and Freedom Before It's Too Late. We have actually given the textbook to the parishioners, to the congregation, to the church members as well as to the shepherds who may have chosen to be silent and be more like hirelings than shepherds. We have actually laid out the ground rules and here's what's going to happen at this conference. We're going to show people the imperative of people of faith, those who value faith, family and friend coming together as a mighty coalition. I know that's a political term, but as a power base of influence to correct our nation's course. If we don't do it, we will not correct the course. It will not simply be done by political party because political parties, each one need to make some corrections. And the church, the people of faith are to hold up a standard that points people of fact to the reliable course, to the safe course, to the sound foundation. We're going to so equip people, so inspire people that they're going to go out and realize that we're going to have some differences.

You know, you were helped as a person who was desperate with an alcohol problem and other issues. You found some compassionate people who helped you and you also referenced AA as being a contributor.

GLENN: Mmm‑hmmm.

ROBISON: Today when people get in trouble, rather than finding a friend or finding a compassionate connection and a compassion connection like you're talking about in Restoring Love, we simply wait for the government to send us a check. That's kind of like keeping the prodigal son in the pig pen and make him a little bit more comfortable or make people as comfortable as they can be in the ditch that they dug with their rotten choices. We have got to allow pressure and problems to bring us and literally move us toward help.

GLENN: You know, I don't ‑‑

ROBISON: And help is not Pharaoh, Caesar or the federal government. It comes from our neighbor, loving God and loving one another. We're going to show that Catholics and protestants ‑‑ let me give you one example: Catholics and protestants alone, if they would stand up for what they say they believe, could change everything in this country immediately. There is ‑‑ that's the numerical base. That's the faith base. That is the pro family, pro marriage, pro freedom base, pro faith base that can turn this ship. And we've got to get them to register, we've got to get them to get informed and be inspired enough to get active. And that is what we as church leaders, coming together, knowing that we've got some theological differences, maintain the freedom. We've got the right to discuss our differences and take a stand. If we don't turn this ship of state, we are sunk, and that is no exaggeration.

GLENN: Well, James, you can go to, is it under God, indivisible?

ROBISON: It's dfw.undergodindivisible.

GLENN: Dot‑org.

ROBISON: Dfw ‑‑ right. That's exactly right.

GLENN: Dfw.undergodindivisible.org. Tickets are 5 bucks and you can go in and you can see all these great speakers. And it's just, it will be a spiritual ‑‑ it will be a spiritual moment. And James, am I come ‑‑ am I speaking that night or not?

ROBISON: Yes, you are.

GLENN: Okay.

ROBISON: You said, can I come. You're the one that inspired us to come together. The whole media is going to be looking all over the world to say what are these church leaders going to say.

GLENN: Mmm‑hmmm.

ROBISON: And Glenn, I know you have such gratitude for what church leaders are doing who are willing to stand up.

GLENN: I do.

ROBISON: And be a light piercing the darkness.

GLENN: And I ‑‑

ROBISON: Not remain in silence and comfort and compromise. And you express such gratitude. You know how much I love you. We have developed a wonderful friendship and I believe that you are 100% right. It's love that never fails.

GLENN: Yep.

ROBISON: And we've got to return to love.

GLENN: James, I appreciate it and I tell you, I support any, any faith that will stand up for true principles and say them. I'm not ‑‑ I'm not for anybody getting up and saying who you should vote for or a party or something like that, but to stand up and say these are true principles and these are God's laws. What do the founders say? Nature's laws and ‑‑

ROBISON: Nature's God.

GLENN: And nature's God. They're clear over and over and over again, and anybody who will stand up I stand with. And I thank you so much for everything that you've done, James, and we'll talk to you again. If you want ‑‑

ROBISON: Well, I pray everyone who's going to be coming to Restoring Love will go ahead and make reservations on dfw.underGodindivisible.org. Come be with us.

GLENN: Thank you very much, James, I appreciate it. Find out all the information. If you don't remember that address by the time you get to work or wherever you're going, just go to MercuryOne.org and it will be up. We'll put it up on the front page. Tell somebody to put it up on the front page in case it's not there. But just go to one of the websites that you can remember and we'll make sure that it is posted there. Very worthwhile, spiritual event. Make sure you're there. Tickets start at 5 bucks. So it's no big deal. We'll go to MercuryOne.org and get your seat now.

Shocking Christian massacres unveiled

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Is a Christian Genocide unfolding overseas?

Recent reports suggest an alarming escalation in violence against Christians, raising questions about whether these acts constitute genocide under international law. Recently, Glenn hosted former U.S. Army Special Forces Sniper Tim Kennedy, who discussed a predictive model that forecasts a surge in global Christian persecution for the summer of 2025.

From Africa to Asia and the Middle East, extreme actions—some described as genocidal—have intensified over the past year. Over 380 million Christians worldwide face high levels of persecution, a number that continues to climb. With rising international concern, the United Nations and human rights groups are urging protective measures by the global community. Is a Christian genocide being waged in the far corners of the globe? Where are they taking place, and what is being done?

India: Hindu Extremist Violence Escalates

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In India, attacks on Christians have surged as Hindu extremist groups gain influence within the country. In February 2025, Hindu nationalist leader Aadesh Soni organized a 50,000-person rally in Chhattisgarh, where he called for the rape and murder of all Christians in nearby villages and demanded the execution of Christian leaders to erase Christianity. Other incidents include forced conversions, such as a June 2024 attack in Chhattisgarh, where a Hindu mob gave Christian families a 10-day ultimatum to convert to Hinduism. In December 2024, a Christian man in Uttar Pradesh was attacked, forcibly converted, and paraded while the mob chanted "Death to Jesus."

The United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) recommends designating India a "Country of Particular Concern" and imposing targeted sanctions on those perpetrating these attacks. The international community is increasingly alarmed by the rising tide of religious violence in India.

Syria: Sectarian Violence Post-Regime Change

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Following the collapse of the Assad regime in December 2024, Syria has seen a wave of sectarian violence targeting religious minorities, including Christians, with over 1,000 killed in early 2025. It remains unclear whether Christians are deliberately targeted or caught in broader conflicts, but many fear persecution by the new regime or extremist groups. Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), a dominant rebel group and known al-Qaeda splinter group now in power, is known for anti-Christian sentiments, heightening fears of increased persecution.

Christians, especially converts from Islam, face severe risks in the unstable post-regime environment. The international community is calling for humanitarian aid and protection for Syria’s vulnerable minority communities.

Democratic Republic of Congo: A "Silent Genocide"

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In February 2025, the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF), an ISIS-affiliated group, beheaded 70 Christians—men, women, and children—in a Protestant church in North Kivu, Democratic Republic of Congo, after tying their hands. This horrific massacre, described as a "silent genocide" reminiscent of the 1994 Rwandan genocide, has shocked the global community.

Since 1996, the ADF and other militias have killed over six million people, with Christians frequently targeted. A Christmas 2024 attack killed 46, further decimating churches in the region. With violence escalating, humanitarian organizations are urging immediate international intervention to address the crisis.

POLL: Starbase exposed: Musk’s vision or corporate takeover?

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Is Starbase the future of innovation or a step too far?

Elon Musk’s ambitious Starbase project in South Texas is reshaping Boca Chica into a cutting-edge hub for SpaceX’s Starship program, promising thousands of jobs and a leap toward Mars colonization. Supporters see Musk as a visionary, driving economic growth and innovation in a historically underserved region. However, local critics, including Brownsville residents and activists, argue that SpaceX’s presence raises rents, restricts beach access, and threatens environmental harm, with Starbase’s potential incorporation as a city sparking fears of unchecked corporate control. As pro-Musk advocates clash with anti-Musk skeptics, will Starbase unite the community or deepen the divide?

Let us know what you think in the poll below:

Is Starbase’s development a big win for South Texas?

Should Starbase become its own city?

Is Elon Musk’s vision more of a benefit than a burden for the region?

Shocking truth behind Trump-Zelenskyy mineral deal unveiled

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President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy have finalized a landmark agreement that will shape the future of U.S.-Ukraine relations. The agreement focuses on mineral access and war recovery.

After a tense March meeting, Trump and Zelenskyy signed a deal on Wednesday, April 30, 2025, granting the U.S. preferential mineral rights in Ukraine in exchange for continued military support. Glenn analyzed an earlier version of the agreement in March, when Zelenskyy rejected it, highlighting its potential benefits for America, Ukraine, and Europe. Glenn praised the deal’s strategic alignment with U.S. interests, including reducing reliance on China for critical minerals and fostering regional peace.

However, the agreement signed this week differs from the March proposal Glenn praised. Negotiations led to significant revisions, reflecting compromises on both sides. What changes were made? What did each leader seek, and what did they achieve? How will this deal impact the future of U.S.-Ukraine relations and global geopolitics? Below, we break down the key aspects of the agreement.

What did Trump want?

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Trump aimed to curb what many perceive as Ukraine’s overreliance on U.S. aid while securing strategic advantages for America. His primary goals included obtaining reimbursement for the billions in military aid provided to Ukraine, gaining exclusive access to Ukraine’s valuable minerals (such as titanium, uranium, and lithium), and reducing Western dependence on China for critical resources. These minerals are essential for aerospace, energy, and technology sectors, and Trump saw their acquisition as a way to bolster U.S. national security and economic competitiveness. Additionally, he sought to advance peace talks to end the Russia-Ukraine war, positioning the U.S. as a key mediator.

Ultimately, Trump secured preferential—but not exclusive—rights to extract Ukraine’s minerals through the United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund, as outlined in the agreement. The U.S. will not receive reimbursement for past aid, but future military contributions will count toward the joint fund, designed to support Ukraine’s post-war recovery. Zelenskyy’s commitment to peace negotiations under U.S. leadership aligns with Trump’s goal of resolving the conflict, giving him leverage in discussions with Russia.

These outcomes partially meet Trump’s objectives. The preferential mineral rights strengthen U.S. access to critical resources, but the lack of exclusivity and reimbursement limits the deal’s financial benefits. The peace commitment, however, positions Trump as a central figure in shaping the war’s resolution, potentially enhancing his diplomatic influence.

What did Zelenskyy want?

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Zelenskyy sought to sustain U.S. military and economic support without the burden of repaying past aid, which has been critical for Ukraine’s defense against Russia. He also prioritized reconstruction funds to rebuild Ukraine’s war-torn economy and infrastructure. Security guarantees from the U.S. to deter future Russian aggression were a key demand, though controversial, as they risked entangling America in long-term commitments. Additionally, Zelenskyy aimed to retain control over Ukraine’s mineral wealth to safeguard national sovereignty and align with the country’s European Union membership aspirations.

The final deal delivered several of Zelenskyy’s priorities. The reconstruction fund, supported by future U.S. aid, provides a financial lifeline for Ukraine’s recovery without requiring repayment of past assistance. Ukraine retained ownership of its subsoil and decision-making authority over mineral extraction, granting only preferential access to the U.S. However, Zelenskyy conceded on security guarantees, a significant compromise, and agreed to pursue peace talks under Trump’s leadership, which may involve territorial or political concessions to Russia.

Zelenskyy’s outcomes reflect a delicate balance. The reconstruction fund and retained mineral control bolster Ukraine’s economic and sovereign interests, but the absence of security guarantees and pressure to negotiate peace could strain domestic support and challenge Ukraine’s long-term stability.

What does this mean for the future?

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While Trump didn’t secure all his demands, the deal advances several of his broader strategic goals. By gaining access to Ukraine’s mineral riches, the U.S. undermines China’s dominance over critical elements like lithium and graphite, essential for technology and energy industries. This shift reduces American and European dependence on Chinese supply chains, strengthening Western industrial and tech sectors. Most significantly, the agreement marks a pivotal step toward peace in Europe. Ending the Russia-Ukraine war, which has claimed thousands of lives, is a top priority for Trump, and Zelenskyy’s commitment to U.S.-led peace talks enhances Trump’s leverage in negotiations with Russia. Notably, the deal avoids binding U.S. commitments to Ukraine’s long-term defense, preserving flexibility for future administrations.

The deal’s broader implications align with the vision Glenn outlined in March, when he praised its potential to benefit America, Ukraine, and Europe by securing resources and creating peace. While the final agreement differs from Glenn's hopes, it still achieves key goals he outlined.

Did Trump's '51st state' jab just cost Canada its independence?

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Did Canadians just vote in their doom?

On April 28, 2025, Canada held its federal election, and what began as a promising conservative revival ended in a Liberal Party regroup, fueled by an anti-Trump narrative. This outcome is troubling for Canada, as Glenn revealed when he exposed the globalist tendencies of the new Prime Minister, Mark Carney. On a recent episode of his podcast, Glenn hosted former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss, who provided insight into Carney’s history. She revealed that, as governor of the Bank of England, Carney contributed to the 2022 pension crisis through policies that triggered excessive money printing, leading to rampant inflation.

Carney’s election and the Liberal Party’s fourth consecutive victory spell trouble for a Canada already straining under globalist policies. Many believed Canadians were fed up with the progressive agenda when former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau resigned amid plummeting public approval. Pierre Poilievre, the Conservative Party leader, started 2025 with a 25-point lead over his Liberal rivals, fueling optimism about his inevitable victory.

So, what went wrong? How did Poilievre go from predicted Prime Minister to losing his own parliamentary seat? And what details of this election could cost Canada dearly?

A Costly Election

Mark Carney (left) and Pierre Poilievre (right)

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The election defied the expectations of many analysts who anticipated a Conservative win earlier this year.

For Americans unfamiliar with parliamentary systems, here’s a brief overview of Canada’s federal election process. Unlike U.S. presidential elections, Canadians do not directly vote for their Prime Minister. Instead, they vote for a political party. Each Canadian resides in a "riding," similar to a U.S. congressional district, and during the election, each riding elects a Member of Parliament (MP). The party that secures the majority of MPs forms the government and appoints its leader as Prime Minister.

At the time of writing, the Liberal Party has secured 169 of the 172 seats needed for a majority, all but ensuring their victory. In contrast, the Conservative Party holds 144 seats, indicating that the Liberal Party will win by a solid margin, which will make passing legislation easier. This outcome is a far cry from the landslide Conservative victory many had anticipated.

Poilievre's Downfall

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What caused Poilievre’s dramatic fall from front-runner to losing his parliamentary seat?

Despite his surge in popularity earlier this year, which coincided with enthusiasm surrounding Trump’s inauguration, many attribute the Conservative loss to Trump’s influence. Commentators argue that Trump’s repeated references to Canada as the "51st state" gave Liberals a rallying cry: Canadian sovereignty. The Liberal Party framed a vote for Poilievre as a vote to surrender Canada to U.S. influence, positioning Carney as the defender of national independence.

Others argue that Poilievre’s lackluster campaign was to blame. Critics suggest he should have embraced a Trump-style, Canada-first message, emphasizing a balanced relationship with the U.S. rather than distancing himself from Trump’s annexation remarks. By failing to counter the Liberal narrative effectively, Poilievre lost momentum and voter confidence.

This election marks a pivotal moment for Canada, with far-reaching implications for its sovereignty and economic stability. As Glenn has warned, Carney’s globalist leanings could align Canada more closely with international agendas, potentially at the expense of its national interests. Canadians now face the challenge of navigating this new political landscape under a leader with a controversial track record.

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