Where does Glenn stand on gay marriage? He sat down with Penn Jillette to discuss the role of libertarianism in the future of the country

The Republican Party right now is being told they have to move more to the left in order to be successful going forward. Americans are being told that the furthest right political spectrum people can go is a Newt Gingrich type: a Republican who still sees big government as the answer. Glenn disagrees. There is a whole section of people who believe in small government, the Constitution, and libertarianism. At first glance, there are areas where people on this side of the spectrum would disagree on issues like drug legalization, gay marriage, etc. But the future of the movement who believe in freedom is dependent on people uniting on the common ideas of limited government outlined by the Founders in the Constitution. On Thursday night, Glenn had illusionist, comedian, and author Penn Jillette onto his show to discuss these issues.

While the interview covered a range of issues, the one Glenn's critics would find most shocking would probably be his stance on gay marriage. While discussing the common ground that can be found among the people who truly value the ideas of freedom outlined in the Constitution, Jillette explained that if the "dope people" could be convinced the "gun people" were OK and vice versa, the whole country would be libertarian. This prompted Glenn to use gay marriage as an example of how libertarians can unite on principles.

"The question is not whether gay people should be married or not, the question is why is the government involved in our marriage, Glenn said.

"That's the huge insult to churches, it's a huge insult to gays, it's a huge insult to love," Penn said. He explained that he was against all marriage because he did not want the state involved in his relationship and his family. He was married at a drive-through in Vegas for $300 only to make sure that he could maintain custody of his children if something tragic were to happen to his wife.

Glenn agreed with Penn, noting that gay marriage does not "pick my pocket nor break my leg" and he doesn't feel like the government needed to be involved. He said that as long as the government doesn't come into his church and say he or his church (or any church) need to change their belief system and their practices, he doesn't care. But right now, people of faith who may not want gay marriage in their church are being shut out of the conversation by activists and progressives.

"The agenda is to shut down my freedom of speech and my belief in - what you don't believe in but I do deeply - The Bible. So I'm going to live my life the way I believe. That's freedom of conscience," Glenn said.

Earlier in the show, Glenn laid out on his chalkboard of the political spectrum that exists between totalitarianism and anarchy. On the chalkboard, Glenn put Occupy Wall Street with anarchy, but Penn disagreed.

"Their argument is not 'no government whatsoever', their argument is using government to redistribute money," Penn explained. "They want to have huge amounts of regulation, a huge amount of stomping down on Wall Street and moving that money back."

Penn also pointed out they are all in the one percent of the world, and that for them to be in the one percent you would have to ignore the whole world.

"Every single one of them pays a cell phone bill once a month that is a yearly income for a family in the rest of the world," Penn said.

"Your whole line here is to me how much freedom do you want. The way I sum up the Constitution is that we do the minimum amount of government we can have that assures individual liberties," he said.

Penn also brought up his issues with the concept of tribalism. "Pride in a group of people is one of the most negative things we have," Penn said.

"The fact that we disagree so much on religion is the reason we should be talking," he said.

The one point they didn't agree on was the Westboro Baptist Church protesting at a funeral, with Penn saying he didn't believe the government should be involved with Glenn saying that he felt that did cross a line of harm.

Glenn hoped the conversation would be an example to people who believe in limited government and individual freedom to expand their horizons and find ways to find coalitions with people they may not have thought to unite with in the past.

"What we need to do, I think, as people who believe in the Constitution is start looking for allies who believe in the Constitution and expand our horizons," Glenn said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."

The two also discussed atheism and religion, as well as the role religion played in the founding of America. You can watch a highlight from that portion of the interview below:

There's been a lot of talk about the idea of a (peaceful) "national divorce" as the Left continues to abandon everything that made America what it is. Well, this week's guest on "The Glenn Beck Podcast" is all for that divorce. Michael Malice is the author of "The Anarchist Handbook" and host of the podcast "Your Welcome." He joined Glenn to talk about how an anarchist would peacefully take on America's greatest challenges — with a smile.

"My rights are not up for discussion," Malice told Glenn. He explained why his version of America will save America, and why, in spite of anxious talk of "national divorce," he has so much hope for the future.

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There are new curriculum standards being implemented into schools throughout the nation for health classes that not only go far beyond what's appropriate for young children, but are entrenched in clear political biases, too. Under the standards, third-graders are taught about hormone blockers and endless gender identities, and topics get shockingly graphic for kids as young as 11. Some schools are even teaching their teachers and kids to ignore what parents have to say about these topics. And the worst part may be that many parents are completely unaware what their children are being taught.

Tina Descovich, co-founder of Moms for Liberty, joined "The Glenn Beck Program" to explain exactly what you can ask at your next school board meeting to ensure this "horrifying" curriculum isn't being taught in your kid's school.

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It should come as no surprise that a newsworthy story receives more media coverage when released on a Monday than a Friday. The reason is in part due to a large number of news-consuming Americans checking out for the week to focus on their weekend plans rather than the news.

On Monday's radio program, Glenn Beck shared information that President Joe Biden decided to release on Friday — when fewer people would notice — regarding the Climate Finance report. This report is marketed to Americans as "A Roadmap To Build a Climate-Resilient Economy." But Glenn believes the report to be Biden's Great Reset warning shot to banks.

In this clip, Glenn warned that if Americans don't stand together, in eight years we all indeed will own nothing. Watch the clip for the full story. Can't watch? Download the podcast here.



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On today's radio program, Glenn Beck was joined by Bill O'Reilly to discuss the top stories of the week.

For O'Reilly, the biggest story this week centered around someone mysteriously missing from mainstream media news reports today: Mark Zuckerberg. Specifically, O'Reilly said it's the 'scandalous' way the Facebook CEO spent nearly $420 million to influence the 2020 election — and did so successfully.

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