Joe Scarborough’s jealousy gets ugly

December 11, 2012

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Before S.E. Cupp arrived on the scene, MSNBC's lone "conservative" voice belonged to the not so conservative Joe Scarborough.

Scarborough works for MSNBC, a network that, with the exception of S.E. Cupp, has a lineup of hosts who have thrills up their legs every time the president gives a speech. They have "news" hosts that just recently met with President Obama at the White House for council with him on how to handle PR. MSNBC is a network that threatened to fight Mitt Romney's son. The station that openly pines for Obama.

Well, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough is apparently so concerned about the "conservative movement" that he made this on-air statement about some of the most powerful voices in conservatism:

"What do you do to a school yard bully? You punch him in the face. You think any of these people in talk radio, if their punched in the face by a Republican nominee, do you think they would push back? No! They're cowards. They're bullies. Punch them in the face and they back off. Bullies do that. Mitt Romney, and we said it nonstop, for two years he would never stand up to these bullies, and so they framed his campaign and he got his tail whipped.
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And we started saying this in 2010, when Glenn Beck said the president was a racist who hates all white people."

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Glenn obviously had a few comments to make after listening to the audio of failed talk radio host Joe Scarborough.

"First of all, Joe, you might want to read up on Marxism, so maybe you can recognize Marxist policies when you see and hear them from your friends and co-workers: class-warfare, redistribution of wealth — it may sound familiar. You may also recognize somebody getting punched in the face, and not sitting down. Still standing up to the bully on the street. I know because I've stood up for a very long time to the bullies, mainly people like you and the people of MSNBC, because I think you just tried to punch me in the face again. I don't really care," Glenn said.

"But secondly," he added, "if you're worried that Mitt wouldn't stand up to me. If by not standing up, Joe, you mean by never appearing on my show, once, ever during the campaign, not ever during the campaign, not on the radio, not on the television, not on the website. Nowhere, zero contact with Mitt Romney. Zero. If by not standing up to me you mean by not taking our advice on anything, ever, you have that exactly right. You have that exactly right.

And I realize you're a tough guy Joe that wants to punch somebody in face. It seems that you're in a very hostile work environment. A lot of the people in the MSNBC wants to punch people in the face. But I'm a lover, Joe, not a fighter. My friend however, Pat, has made the offer that you can punch him in the face, anytime — anytime you'd like — and just see what happens."

"Anytime, yeah," Pat quipped. "See what happens. I'd love that."

"So let's get this straight," Glenn continued, "Joe Scarborough is on MSNBC for a reason, and here it is: He's not a conservative. I don't know what he is — and I don't care. I really don't care. But I'm really sick of these Republicans. You know what, I think that's what he is. He's a Republican. And I'm really sick of these Republicans who're just progressive Republicans who try to talk down to everybody and tell us how smart they are, and how everybody else is just so stupid. That's great. You can have your silly opinion there Joe. I don't speak for the Republicans. I don't want to speak for the Republicans. I speak for me. I tell you how I feel. I don't want to speak for the Republican. I wish that the Republicans would stop speaking quite honestly. But tough guy Joe, he talks about bullies, and talk radio. I'd like to know who these bullies are. Who? How are we being bullies? We had no contact with Mitt Romney. Here's how much contact I had Mitt Romney. The week before he was elected I flew to see his rally. He was about 25 feet away from me. His people knew we were on the tarmac. I didn't even get a wave. Nothing.

There were two planes on the tarmac. His and mine — three — and the press plane. He landed, then about an hour later we landed. We parked our plane next to him so when he's coming down the stairs you're hearing the sounds of the plane so we're pretty hard to miss. Not even "hey!" Nothing. Here's how close we are: I gave Mitt Romney my George Washington farewell address, and I would like to read the note I got from him after giving him my original copy."

"The whole thing?" Pat asked. "Are you going to read the whole note?"

"Oh wait, I didn't get one. He didn't send one. That's how tight we are," Glenn said sarcastically. "That's just how how tight we are.

So please, Joe, give it a rest. Joe considered talk radio show bullies, because when he got into talk radio he got his teeth kicked in. This is actually a hard job. But he got his teeth kicked in and he got bullied out of the media, and wound up in progressive TV land.

People in talk radio they can see through frauds that fast. That's why you either succeed or you fail in talk radio so fast, because this is -- look I do every medium. The only thing I don't do I don't do horse whispering and smoke signals. But -- I also don't do Morse code — but I believe we are in every possible medium available. This is the hardest one because you're without a net. You've got nothing but rope and you can hang yourself every single day, and Joe Scarborough did a very nice job. He makes the nooses himself, every single day. He's kind of like the Dunkin' Donuts guy, "Time to make the nooses".

You shouldn't make nooses, you keep hanging yourself.

He gets his teeth kicked in and he winds up selling his soul and cavorting with the enemy, then he becomes the enemy.

Joe, good for you. You made your bed and you're lying in it, and it's wonderful. And I know you feel the same way about me: 'Beck you made your bed and you're lying in it.'

Yes, I am. Yes, I am. And I'm thrilled with the bed I am in. I'm thrilled with it. But you keep "leaning forward" or whatever Marxist themes that your propagandists have worked out with the president. Keep "moving forward".

We'll keep standing straight as Americans that believe in the constitution and your right to have a different opinion without getting punched in the face."

Hunter pleads GUILTY, but did he get a pass on these 3 GLARING crimes?

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Last week, Hunter Biden made the shocking decision to suddenly plead guilty to all nine charges of tax-related crimes after claiming innocence since 2018.

Hunter first tried an "Alford plead" in which a defendant maintains their innocence while accepting the sentencing, typically due to the overwhelming evidence against them. Hunter's Alford plead was not accepted after the prosecutors objected to the suggestion, and Hunter quickly pleaded guilty.

Glenn could not believe just how disrespectful this situation was to the justice system and the American people. After years of lying about his innocence, which only served to deepen the divide in our country, Hunter decided to change his tune at the last minute and admit his guilt. Moreover, many expect Joe Biden will swoop in after the election and bail his son out with a presidential pardon.

This isn't the first time Hunter's crimes have turned out to be more than just a "right-wing conspiracy theory," and, odds are, it won't be the last. Here are three crimes Hunter may or may not be guilty of:

Gun charges: Found guilty

This June, Hunter Biden was found guilty of three federal gun charges, which could possibly land him up to 25 years in prison. Hunter purchased a revolver in 2018 while addicted to crack, and lied to the gun dealer about his addiction. While Hunter could face up to 25 years in prison, it's unlikely to be the case as first-time offenders rarely receive the maximum sentence. That's assuming Joe even lets it go that far.

Tax evasion: Plead guilty

Last week, Hunter changed his plea to "guilty" after years of pleading innocent to federal tax evasion charges. Since 2018, Delaware attorneys have been working on Hunter's case, and just before the trial was set to begin, Hunter changed his plea. According to the investigation, Hunter owed upwards of $1.4 million in federal taxes that he avoided by writing them off as fraudulent business deductions. Instead, Hunter spent this money on strippers, escorts, luxury cars, hotels, and, undoubtedly, crack.

Joe's involvement with Hunter's foreign dealings: Yet to be proven

Despite repeated claims against it, there is ample evidence supporting the theory Joe Biden was aware of Hunter's business dealings and even had a hand in them. This includes testimony from Devon Archer, one of Hunter's business partners, confirming Joe joined several business calls. Despite the mounting evidence Joe Biden was involved in Hunter's overseas business dealings and was using his influence to Hunter's benefit, the Bidens still maintain their innocence.

Why do we know so much about the Georgia shooter but NOTHING about Trump's shooter?

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It's only been a few days since the horrific shooting at the Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, and the shooter, Colt Gray, and his father, Colin Gray, have already made their first court appearance. Over the last few days, more and more information has come out about the shooter and his family, including details of Colt's troubled childhood and history of mental health issues. The FBI said Colton had been on their radar.

This situation has Glenn fired up, asking, "Why do we have an FBI?" It seems like every time there is a mass shooting, the FBI unhelpfully admits the shooter was "on the radar," but what good does that do? While it is great we know everything about the Georgia shooter, including what he got for Christmas, why do we still know next to NOTHING about Trump's would-be assassin? Here are three things we know about the Georgia shooter that we stilldon't know about the Trump shooter:

Digital footprint

Just a few days after the shooting, authorities have already released many details of the Georgia shooter, Colt Gray's, digital footprint. This includes extensive conversations and photographs revolving around school shootings that were pulled from Gray's Discord account, a digital messaging platform.

Compared to this, the FBI claims Thomas Crooks, the shooter who almost assassinated Donald Trump, had little to no digital footprint, and outside of an ominous message sent by Crooks on Steam (an online video game platform), we know nothing about his online activities. Doesn't it seem strange that Crooks, a young adult in 2024 who owned a cell phone and a laptop left behind no digital trail of any relevance to his crime?

Home life

The FBI has painted a vivid image of what Colt Gray's home life was like, including his troubling relationship with his parents. They released information about his parents' tumultuous divorce, being evicted from his home, several interactions with law enforcement and CPS, and abuse. Investigators also found written documents of Colt's related to other school shootings, suggesting he had been thinking of this for some time before committing the atrocity.

In contrast, we still know next to nothing about Crooks's home life.

How he got the weapon

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Colt Gray was gifted the rifle he used in the shooting from his father for Christmas last year. We also know Colt's father is an avid hunter and would take Colt on hunting trips. In 2023, Colt was the subject of an investigation regarding a threat he made online to shoot up a school. During the interview, Colt stated he did not make the threat. Moreover, his father admitted to owning several firearms, but said Colt was not allowed full access to them. The investigation was later closed after the accusations could not be sustained.

In comparison, all we know is that Crooks stole his father's rifle and did not inform his parents of any part of his plan. We have no clue how Crooks acquired the rest of his equipment, which included nearly a hundred extra rounds of ammunition, a bullet-proof vest, and several homemade bombs. How did Crooks manage to acquire all of his equipment without the FBI taking notice?

It feels like the FBI is either incompetent or hiding important information from the American people. Or both.

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These ‘conservative’ Glenn Beck critics are now supporting Kamala Harris

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There’s a certain irony in how some of the loudest critics of Glenn Beck within the conservative ranks have now thrown their support behind Kamala Harris, a figure whose politics stand in stark contrast to the values they once claimed to uphold. Let's take a look back at these self-proclaimed guardians of conservatism, who once claimed Glenn Beck was a threat to the conservative movement, but are now backing the most far-left, radical candidate the Democrats have ever produced.

Adam Kinzinger

Adam Kinzinger was elected in 2010 as a Tea Party conservative, riding the wave of anti-establishment sentiment that defined the movement. However, by 2013, he was already distancing himself from the principles that got him elected. Criticizing Glenn Beck for labeling him a RINO, Kinzinger said, "The perception is, if you do one thing out of line with what is considered hard-core conservatism, or what Glenn Beck says or what Mark Levin says, then you are a RINO." Now, he’s taken his political shift to the extreme, endorsing Kamala Harris at the Democratic National Convention and praising her as a defender of democracy—all while claiming to be a Republican and a conservative.

Bill Kristol

Bill Kristol’s flip-flop is even more astounding. Kristol, who once took it upon himself to attack Beck for his warnings about radical Islam and creeping authoritarianism, now finds himself on the same side as Kamala Harris. Kristol’s past criticisms of Beck, comparing him to fringe elements like the John Birch Society, now ring hollow as Kristol himself becomes an apologist for the far left. His endorsement of Harris shows that his commitment was never to conservatism but to whatever political winds would keep him in the spotlight.

Jennifer Rubin

Jennifer Rubin is a prime example of how establishment figures at outlets like The Washington Post have masqueraded as conservatives while working to undermine genuine conservative voices. Rubin, who once criticized Beck by saying, "Rather than reflexively rising to his defense when questioned about Beck, why don’t conservatives call him out and explain that he doesn’t represent the views of mainstream conservatives?" was never truly aligned with conservative values. Her columns have consistently pushed establishment narratives, and now they read like PR pieces for the Democratic Party, especially when it comes to Kamala Harris. Rubin’s journey from supposed conservative commentator to one of the Biden administration’s staunchest defenders shows that her critiques of Beck were always about protecting her place within the Washington elite, not about upholding any real conservative principles.

Kinzinger, Kristol, and Rubin once posed as guardians of conservatism, warning about the supposed dangers of Glenn Beck. Now, they’ve endorsed Kamala Harris, a candidate whose policies are anathema to conservatism. Their criticisms of Beck were never about protecting conservative values—they were about steering the party back under their control. But the real target wasn’t just Beck; it was the audience he represents—everyday conservatives who challenge the status quo. These insiders have always seen that base as the real threat, and their actions make it clear who they were really trying to sideline.

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