Ann Coulter calls out Libertarians for avoiding the tough issues and playing popular politics

Ann Coulter got into a little hot water with Libertarians last night during an on air debate with John Stossel. reports:

Conservative talker Ann Coulter appeared Thursday on Fox Business Network’s “Stossel” to do battle with the show’s Libertarian host — and his 1,400+ Libertarian guests.

Their biggest point of contention? Social Conservatism versus the Libertarian “Individuals Should Be Left Alone” approach.

The evening began pleasantly enough, the two discussing whether the U.S. should’ve invaded Iraq following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Coulter believes military action was justified because Saddam Hussein was “definitely looking for uranium from Niger.”

But then things became a little more heated when Stossel decided to shift gears and brought up legalizing drugs.

“Libertarians and pot,” Coulter laughed. “This is why people think libertarians are pu**ies.”

Does she have a point?

Pat thought so, saying, "I think that's pretty good. I agree with that."

Glenn, thinking more on the side of the way the progressive Republicans like John McCain will drop their principals and become buddy-buddy with Democrats in Congress on issues like immigration to earn votes, wasn't so sure.

"Who do you know that is a Libertarian that is friends with somebody like Paul Krugman or Barack Obama?" Glenn asked. " I guess maybe in Hollywood?"

But that's not the way Pat was looking at it. Pat, like Ann, was referring to the Libertarian base — the young, Ron Paul, Occupy Wall Street types.

That, Glenn can identify with. Those are the Libertarians that refuse to have a conversation with Glenn about anything because they don't see eye-to-eye on one or two issues. They're the Libertarians that will scream and shout about the drug war, but don't make any noise about the heavy regulations destroy small businesses and killing jobs. Whether it's because they're young, and that's not really affecting them yet or it's because they're thats their mechanism to bring people from the left to their side of the argument, it's making them a tool for the Democrats and an antagonist to the Republicans.

Glenn explained that he recently sent one of his employees, Jon, to a Libertarian convention in D.C. Jon thought the people there were great, but about half of them hated Glenn. And when he tried to find out why, he couldn't even have a conversation with them — they weren't interested in coming together on the things they do agree on. It's all or nothing. The individuals who dislike Glenn that Jon was able to talk to based the entire conversation around Ron Paul, and how Glenn doesn't agree with everything that Ron Paul says.

"What I can't understand is that isn't the definition of 'Libertarianism' that we all are different and we're individuals, and we believe in the power of the individual?" Glenn asked.

"That's exactly what Ann Coulter is saying here," Stu responded.

"Right. And I believe in the power of the individual to choose. I don't have to agree with you on everything," Glenn added.

Glenn went on to add that this is why he doesn't understand so many of the Ron Paul supporters who dislike him for not always agreeing with Ron Paul. They let what he supports dictate all of their opinions on everyone else. If someone doesn't stand shoulder to shoulder with Ron Paul, they immediately are on the attack.

"You are supposed to have a mind of your own," Glenn said, "and you're not supposed to be about an individual. Libertarianism is about a set of ideas — maximum freedom — not an individual."

Penn Jillete is one of the Libertarians that has really been teaching Glenn what being a real Libertarian looks like in today's society, and how it works in all of the complicated issues facing our country. One of the things they've been discussing recently is the "tribal mentality".

"He hates tribes," Glenn said of Penn. "I didn't really understand it at first. He's like i just really hate tribes and how we all get into this really tribal mentality."

Glenn explained that he started to understand it the other day when he reflected on where the GOP is right now. Conservatives are really free of "the machinery" of the GOP "tribe" right now.

"We're about 18 months away from them herding us again," he explained.

Glenn believes that the GOP machine is going to be pushing everyone to get behind Chris Christie. If there isn't another person, or group, or a stronger candidate that freedom minded people can get behind and support we're in trouble. For Glenn, he thinks this person is Rand Paul.

"The idea of liberty and maximum freedom and the least about of government without anarchy is not your idea. It's the founders idea," Glenn said address those people who are so quick to attack him for his Libertarian transition.

"You would think at this time in our country, we have the opportunity to get rid of the party system," he added. "But we have 18 months to do it.  We have an opportunity to destroy it right now.  But it won't be done by crazies, radicals, and people who're shouting other people down."

Glenn explained that with TheBlaze he is trying to shine a light on the Libertarian idea — the idea of maximum freedom — but every time he does, he attacked for it because someone thinks he and TheBlaze need to pass some kind of litmus test to go and learn more about what the Libertarians are doing, which is exactly what happened at this convention.

"We go in, we tried to understand it. We tried to make some friends," Glenn explained.

But, despite being the only media organization at this Libertarian convention, they were attacked for it.

"Do you think anybody who doesn't really believe it is going to help?" he asked. "We believe it.  So we'll be back.  And we'll be back at all of the conventions, and we'll report and we will try to learn, and continue to hire people.  Because we believe it."

This was one of the first homesteads in the area in the 1880's and was just begging to be brought back to its original glory — with a touch of modern. When we first purchased the property, it was full of old stuff without any running water, central heat or AC, so needless to say, we had a huge project ahead of us. It took some vision and a whole lot of trust, but the mess we started with seven years ago is now a place we hope the original owners would be proud of.

To restore something like this is really does take a village. It doesn't take much money to make it cozy inside, if like me you are willing to take time and gather things here and there from thrift shops and little antique shops in the middle of nowhere.

But finding the right craftsman is a different story.

Matt Jensen and his assistant Rob did this entire job from sketches I made. Because he built this in his off hours it took just over a year, but so worth the wait. It wasn't easy as it was 18"out of square. He had to build around that as the entire thing we felt would collapse. Matt just reinforced the structure and we love its imperfections.

Here are a few pictures of the process and the transformation from where we started to where we are now:

​How it was

It doesn't look like much yet, but just you wait and see!

By request a photo tour of the restored cabin. I start doing the interior design in earnest tomorrow after the show, but all of the construction guys are now done. So I mopped the floors, washed the sheets, some friends helped by washing the windows. And now the unofficial / official tour.

The Property

The views are absolutely stunning and completely peaceful.

The Hong Kong protesters flocking to the streets in opposition to the Chinese government have a new symbol to display their defiance: the Stars and Stripes. Upset over the looming threat to their freedom, the American flag symbolizes everything they cherish and are fighting to preserve.

But it seems our president isn't returning the love.

Trump recently doubled down on the United States' indifference to the conflict, after initially commenting that whatever happens is between Hong Kong and China alone. But he's wrong — what happens is crucial in spreading the liberal values that America wants to accompany us on the world stage. After all, "America First" doesn't mean merely focusing on our own domestic problems. It means supporting liberal democracy everywhere.

The protests have been raging on the streets since April, when the government of Hong Kong proposed an extradition bill that would have allowed them to send accused criminals to be tried in mainland China. Of course, when dealing with a communist regime, that's a terrifying prospect — and one that threatens the judicial independence of the city. Thankfully, the protesters succeeded in getting Hong Kong's leaders to suspend the bill from consideration. But everyone knew that the bill was a blatant attempt by the Chinese government to encroach on Hong Kong's autonomy. And now Hong Kong's people are demanding full-on democratic reforms to halt any similar moves in the future.

After a generation under the "one country, two systems" policy, the people of Hong Kong are accustomed to much greater political and economic freedom relative to the rest of China. For the protesters, it's about more than a single bill. Resisting Xi Jinping and the Communist Party means the survival of a liberal democracy within distance of China's totalitarian grasp — a goal that should be shared by the United States. Instead, President Trump has retreated to his administration's flawed "America First" mindset.

This is an ideal opportunity for the United States to assert our strength by supporting democratic values abroad. In his inaugural address, Trump said he wanted "friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world" while "understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their interests first." But at what point is respecting sovereignty enabling dictatorships? American interests are shaped by the principles of our founding: political freedom, free markets, and human rights. Conversely, the interests of China's Communist Party are the exact opposite. When these values come into conflict, as they have in Hong Kong, it's our responsibility to take a stand for freedom — even if those who need it aren't within our country's borders.

Of course, that's not a call for military action. Putting pressure on Hong Kong is a matter of rhetoric and positioning — vital tenets of effective diplomacy. When it comes to heavy-handed world powers, it's an approach that can really work. When the Solidarity movement began organizing against communism in Poland, President Reagan openly condemned the Soviet military's imposition of martial law. His administration's support for the pro-democracy movement helped the Polish people gain liberal reforms from the Soviet regime. Similarly, President Trump doesn't need to be overly cautious about retribution from Xi Jinping and the Chinese government. Open, strong support for democracy in Hong Kong not only advances America's governing principles, but also weakens China's brand of authoritarianism.

After creating a commission to study the role of human rights in U.S. foreign policy, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo wrote last month that the principles of our Constitution are central "not only to Americans," but to the rest of the world. He was right — putting "America First" means being the first advocate for freedom across the globe. Nothing shows the strength of our country more than when, in crucial moments of their own history, other nations find inspiration in our flag.

Let's join the people of Hong Kong in their defiance of tyranny.

Matt Liles is a writer and Young Voices contributor from Austin, Texas.

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