A House Judiciary Committee hearing got a little heated on Thursday when Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) battled FBI Director Robert Mueller over the efficiency of the FBI's investigation into the Boston Marathon bombers prior to the April 15th attack. Somehow, Mueller claims he was unaware that the mosque the Tsarnaev brothers attended, the Islamic Society of Boston, was founded by convicted supporter of terrorism Abdurahman Alamoudi.
Given the amount of data we now know the federal government has at its fingertips, how incompetent does one have to be to miss this type of detail?
Glenn explained that the reason the exchange began was because the FBI purged all of the information on all of the mosques that had been collected.
"We had collected a lot of data, because remember, data is important, right? We have to know who's in our country. We have to listen to all of our phone calls, we have to do everything, because we have to know who's talking to who, but the Islamic counsels got together and they decided they wanted some information purged from the FBI records," Glenn explained. "Now, we don't know what has been purged and we don't even know who's requesting the purging. We just know that things have been blacked out, and Louie is saying to him, I want you to tell me why we can't tell the American people the names of the people that are requesting the purge of these documents, and you listen to them. Why can't we tell the American people who these people are? They are supposed public servants. Shouldn't the American people know who's serving them to help them be more safe?"
Watch the exchange here:
Gohmert: "I want to go back to Boston. You said things like how -- the FBI did an excellent job, a thorough job, don't know what else we could have done and according to the rugs, there's a great deal more that could have been done and when we find out about this sensitive operations review committee, and as this article points out, if it's true, it says that we don't know who the chairman and members are, sensitive operations review uh committee, who the staff -- that's kept secret. The FBI never canvassed Boston mosques until four days after the April 15th attacks. If the Russians tell you that someone has been radicalized and you go check and see the mosques that they went to, then you get the articles of incorporation, as I have, for the group that created the Boston mosque where these Tsarnaevs attended and you find the name al-Amoudi, which you remember, because this man who was so helpful to the Clinton Administration with so many big things, he gets arrested at Dulles Airport by the FBI, and he's now doing over 20 years for supporting terrorism. This is the guy that started the mosque where your Tsarnaevs were attending, and you didn't even bother to check about the mosque. And then when you had the picture, why didn't anyone go to the mosque and say who are these guys? Why was that not done, since such a thorough job was done?"
Mueller: "Your facts are not all-together…"
Gohmert: "I point out specifically — point out specifically, sir, if you are going to call me a liar, you need to point out specifically where any facts are wrong.
Mueller: "We went to the mosque."
Gohmert: "Prior to Boston?"
Mueller: "Prior to Boston. We were talking to Imams several months beforehand as part of our outreach efforts."
"Outreach efforts?" Really?
"So in other words, we went to that mosque, we went to that mosque as part of our outreach. We are reaching out to them, saying hey, how can we be partners," Glenn responded. "That's insane."
Gohmert: "Were you aware those mosques were started by Abdurahman Alamoudi?"
Mueller: "I answered the question, sir."
Gohmert: "You didn't answer the question, were you award they were started by al-Amoudi?"
"He wasn't everybody aware of it. These are the people collecting all the information on you to keep you safe. They are purging all of the information on who the radical Islamists are. They are purging it. Why? Because our government is on the wrong side. They have deemed that you are the enemy and radical Islam is fine, as long as it's Muslim brotherhood. It is a very, very dangerous thing we are involved in now and they are taking away your keys to the locks, they are putting around your children's necks and wrists and arms and brain," Glenn added.
Rep. Louis Gohmert joined Glenn later in the program to discuss the exchange he had with the FBI Director who claimed the congressman had his facts wrong.
"Were not wrong," Rep. Gohmert quickly asserted. "Because I accused them of not doing research on the Tsarnaevs at the mosques where this were attending. And these mosques, from what I understand — and we want to drill down and find out more information — but there are other people that have been radicalized there. We need to find out and the FBI should have been curious. You know, how many people are getting radicalized at this mosque? And so when he says it was part of the "outreach" and frankly, he was — I couldn't hear him say it was our outreach efforts until afterwards, but if I had heard the outreach, I would have drilled him on that. That means my facts were right."
Gohmert continued to explain that the "outreach" comment tracks back to a prior hearing where Mueller testified and kept responding to people that the Muslim communities are exactly like every other community in America and every other religious community in the country.
"I said well, you said that, and didn't then you talked about your outreach effort to the Muslim community and you have a specific part of the FBI that does outreach for the Muslim community, so I said, how are the outreach efforts for the Baptists and the Jews and the Buddhist, how are those groups doing?" the Congressman continued.
"They think we are the enemies of this country and they are doing everything they can to support the radicals in this country. They have flipped everything upside down," Glenn added.
"It is upside down," Rep. Gohmert agreed. "You've talked about that so many times. That's exactly what happened. And this mosque was started by the Islamic society of Boston…The Islamic society of Boston was started by Alamoudi — now doing over 20 years in prison because he was deporting terrorism."
"TheBlaze will do a week-long special this fall on Islamic radicals and we are going to name names and show all of this. We have nailed it down and we are going to show it all. The American people need to know -- not just the vague things like what we are talking about here," Glenn said. "You need to see how it has happened and who is involved in both parties."
"I heard you talk previously on this issue, I will be excited. I just think it's an incredible insight into really what's at stake here," Rep. Gohmert noted. "It is people's civil rights and they are being eroded and everything seems to be upside down, and so I think that's a fantastic approach, because it gets right to the truth."
"Well, Louie, you have 70 people in Washington that are not willing to sit down on this and we are going to watch your back, at least I am," Glenn responded. "I begged for you guys to do it and now you are doing it."