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WATCH: TheBlaze staffer shocked to find out he knew Washington Navy Yard shooter

September 17, 2013
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Chris Childs, director for Pat & Stu realized something shocking yesterday: he knew Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis. Childs had frequented the Ft. Worth, TX Thai restaurant where Alexis had worked, and had had many conversations with the suspected killer.

"Well, the first time we met obviously was at the restaurant, and I had gone in there with a couple of friends from my previous job before I started working at TheBlaze and we were big lovers of Thai food and we found this place and he was a waiter, a waiter kind of just hanging out," Childs explained.

"How did he seem to you? Did he seem like a guy who would ever do something like this?" Pat asked.

"Absolutely not," Childs responded.

Childs said that Alexis was very nice and pretty quiet, and that he was really into the video games Call of Duty and World of Warcraft.

"Did you ever have any sense at all that he was trouble at all," Glenn asked.

"No, that's the thing that floors me is he was not that type of person. He never seemed angry, he never seemed like he was bitter about anything and even when I was talking to one of my friends who was with the owner of the restaurant last night, he was saying they're all just floored."

WATCH:

Full Transcript below:

Last night I was on the show and the picture came on the screen of the guy who was the killer, and I did the show. And right after a couple of our employees came and said, "Glenn, we know this guy." Now, Chris is the guy who's known as the guy who wears the Hawaiian shirt at TheBlaze and Mercury studios.

PAT: And he wears it every day.

STU: It's on his business card.

GLENN: No, he's got different shirts and it's not just that one Hawaiian shirt.

PAT: No, several.

GLENN: He's got every Hawaiian shirt that has ever been made, I believe.

STU: (Laughing.)

GLENN: And I'm not one to mock somebody's sense of fashion, I just want you to know that.

STU: That's just because you know we will mock you in return.

GLENN: Yes. So Chris comes up and he said, "I know this guy, know him quite well. He works at a Thai restaurant in Fort Worth that I go to." Now, all of this has been verified, but this was 5:00 yesterday afternoon. Brought Chris in this morning. He's actually the director of the Pat and Stu show. He's the guy in the control room that makes all the calls, which, he hasn't made the call, and I guess this might be mine, to cancel the show, but ‑‑

STU: (Laughing.)

GLENN: But anyway, we wanted to bring Chris in and talk a little bit about, how did you meet him and who was he?

CHRIS: Well, the first time we met obviously was at the restaurant, and I had gone in there with a couple of friends from my previous job before I started working at TheBlaze and we were big lovers of Thai food and we found this place and he was a waiter, a waiter kind of just hanging out.

PAT: So you'd just, you would go in there and strike up a conversation with him when you went in to eat?

CHRIS: Yeah. Because you didn't go to Happy Bowl for a quick lunch. I mean, it was a good solid hour and a half just because it was, you know ‑‑

GLENN: Well, it's a happy bowl.

CHRIS: Huh?

GLENN: It's a happy bowl.

CHRIS: It's a happy bowl.

GLENN: It implies happiness.

CHRIS: Yeah, happiness takes time.

GLENN: Yes, it does. Now, did you know, for instance, that he was a Buddhist?

CHRIS: No, I didn't.

GLENN: Okay.

CHRIS: I mean, I know that he was living with the owner of the restaurant, Wi, and I know Wi was a Buddhist. So it doesn't surprise me that ‑‑

GLENN: You and who else?

CHRIS: Huh?

GLENN: You and who else?

STU: No, stop. Let him do the stupid story, please.

GLENN: No, come on. That's ‑‑ you don't get a guy named Wi very often.

STU: You do many times in certain areas of the world, yes, you do.

GLENN: Okay. All right. So ‑‑

CHRIS: I knew that ‑‑ you're killing me, just killin' me. Wi was a Buddhist and so it doesn't ‑‑ like I said, it doesn't surprise that ‑‑

GLENN: If we could just get ‑‑ if we could just get Hu into this story.

CHRIS: Who?

PAT: We're done with the whole thing.

STU: See, we have plenty of opportunities to do the Hu joke and the Wi joke. Can we get the story from a guy who actually knew?

GLENN: I don't ‑‑

STU: ‑‑ the murderer here? I mean, is that too much to ask?

PAT: So the obvious question then is, Chris, how did he seem to you? Did he seem like a guy who would ever do something like this?

CHRIS: Absolutely not. He's that stereotypical ‑‑

PAT: Quiet?

CHRIS: ‑‑ quiet. He would ‑‑

PAT: Nice? Was he nice?

CHRIS: Oh, he was really friendly, really nice.

PAT: Really?

CHRIS: And just, you know, he would sit up at the ‑‑ sit up at the counter and take orders and just be as nice as could be. And he would ‑‑ you know, I do know that he taught himself the language of Thai, self‑taught, which was real easy since the owners were also from Thailand. So I'm sure he had lots of people to practice on.

STU: When he ‑‑ would you say, was there any conversations you have outside of, you know, pad Thai‑related conversations? Did you talk to him about what he did in his life, did you talk to him about ‑‑

GLENN: Because you said to me yesterday you knew that he was into the shooter video games.

CHRIS: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: You said he was really into them.

CHRIS: Really into them. When a new game would come out, there's a couple of guys that I worked with that were also kinda sorta into shooter games but by the first new one would come out, he would know a lot about the game, like maps and that kind of stuff.

PAT: So you would talk to him about these video games?

CHRIS: Yeah.

PAT: Like Call of Duty or what?

CHRIS: Yeah.

PAT: Resident Evil?

CHRIS: Yeah. And I think he was a Warcraft guy too.

PAT: Now, were you the one, because somebody has said that he played these games up to 16 hours a day. Is that information coming from ‑‑

CHRIS: That didn't come from me but it wouldn't surprise me because I think basically all he did was work a little bit at the restaurant and then go home and ‑‑

GLENN: Did he seem like an angry guy?

CHRIS: No. No, that was the thing.

GLENN: Because they're reporting today that he had problems with white people.

PAT: And anger management.

CHRIS: Yeah, I read that, but he didn't show that towards us. I mean, we were a table full of white guys.

PAT: And clearly you're as white as it gets.

STU: (Laughing.)

PAT: I mean, nobody is whiter than you, Chris. Am I right?

CHRIS: That's coming from you?

PAT: Yes. You're even whiter than I am.

GLENN: Well, because of the Hawaiian shirt, I think.

PAT: Yes, I think the Hawaiian shirt really ‑‑

GLENN: Only because of wearing the Hawaiian shirt.

CHRIS: I am wearing pants today. So that is a good thing.

PAT: That is a good thing.

GLENN: I will tell you that I have been thinking about instituting a "You must wear pants" policy.

STU: We just had an adult on TV brag about wearing pants.

GLENN: Yeah. I know. We are really kind of ‑‑ you know, operating in television and operating in television in the South is a little different.

PAT: It is different.

GLENN: You're like, I decided not to wear pants today. "Okay."

STU: So how many times would you say you frequented this restaurant? It was a place you went a lot? I mean, did you get a lot of conversation?

GLENN: Yeah, how many times did you actually ‑‑

CHRIS: I probably went there, once we found the place, we went up there quite often, like once or twice a week.

GLENN: Is he a guy that if you would have walked on the street, he would have said, "Chris"?

CHRIS: Probably not. Because he was that ‑‑ I don't think he was that kind of guy really. He wasn't outgoing or anything. I mean, he's literally real quiet. I would have been the one to say, "Hey, Aaron, how's it going?" He would be like, "Oh, hey, dude." You know, I mean, it was just, he was not very ‑‑

PAT: So you guys never, you never did anything with him outside of the restaurant?

CHRIS: No.

STU: You weren't in his wedding or anything?

CHRIS: No.

GLENN: Did you ever have any sense at all that ‑‑

CHRIS: None.

GLENN: ‑‑ he was trouble at all?

CHRIS: None.

GLENN: Anybody walk away from that conversation and say...

PAT: That guy's got some issues?

GLENN: That guy's got some issues, man, there's something about that guy?

CHRIS: No, that's the thing that floors me is he was not that type of person. He never seemed angry, he never seemed like he was bitter about anything and even when I was talking to one of my friends who was with the owner of the restaurant last night, he was saying they're all just floored.

STU: Oh, man. The interviews with the owner of the restaurant were heartbreaking because the guy seems to be a standup guy.

CHRIS: Yeah.

STU: And once a small business. He, you know, brought this guy into his home.

GLENN: He ‑‑ yeah, tried to help him.

STU: Tried to help him.

CHRIS: Aaron was the best man at his wedding last year.

GLENN: No, I think he was supposed to be and then he had to miss it, didn't he? He went some ‑‑

CHRIS: I didn't make the wedding, either, but I know he was supposed to be.

GLENN: Would you have ‑‑ you're a good customer. If you would have been invited to the ‑‑

CHRIS: I would have gone, absolutely. Wi's a good guy. It's a really good family.

GLENN: Who?

CHRIS: And it's ‑‑ you guys.

STU: I don't want to say us guys. It's Glenn.

PAT: Yeah, it's just Glenn.

STU: Just Glenn doing this today.

GLENN: So good. I mean, it's just so good, all the way through I had Wi and Hu jokes the whole time.

STU: That was you exercising restraint.

Hunter pleads GUILTY, but did he get a pass on these 3 GLARING crimes?

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Last week, Hunter Biden made the shocking decision to suddenly plead guilty to all nine charges of tax-related crimes after claiming innocence since 2018.

Hunter first tried an "Alford plead" in which a defendant maintains their innocence while accepting the sentencing, typically due to the overwhelming evidence against them. Hunter's Alford plead was not accepted after the prosecutors objected to the suggestion, and Hunter quickly pleaded guilty.

Glenn could not believe just how disrespectful this situation was to the justice system and the American people. After years of lying about his innocence, which only served to deepen the divide in our country, Hunter decided to change his tune at the last minute and admit his guilt. Moreover, many expect Joe Biden will swoop in after the election and bail his son out with a presidential pardon.

This isn't the first time Hunter's crimes have turned out to be more than just a "right-wing conspiracy theory," and, odds are, it won't be the last. Here are three crimes Hunter may or may not be guilty of:

Gun charges: Found guilty

This June, Hunter Biden was found guilty of three federal gun charges, which could possibly land him up to 25 years in prison. Hunter purchased a revolver in 2018 while addicted to crack, and lied to the gun dealer about his addiction. While Hunter could face up to 25 years in prison, it's unlikely to be the case as first-time offenders rarely receive the maximum sentence. That's assuming Joe even lets it go that far.

Tax evasion: Plead guilty

Last week, Hunter changed his plea to "guilty" after years of pleading innocent to federal tax evasion charges. Since 2018, Delaware attorneys have been working on Hunter's case, and just before the trial was set to begin, Hunter changed his plea. According to the investigation, Hunter owed upwards of $1.4 million in federal taxes that he avoided by writing them off as fraudulent business deductions. Instead, Hunter spent this money on strippers, escorts, luxury cars, hotels, and, undoubtedly, crack.

Joe's involvement with Hunter's foreign dealings: Yet to be proven

Despite repeated claims against it, there is ample evidence supporting the theory Joe Biden was aware of Hunter's business dealings and even had a hand in them. This includes testimony from Devon Archer, one of Hunter's business partners, confirming Joe joined several business calls. Despite the mounting evidence Joe Biden was involved in Hunter's overseas business dealings and was using his influence to Hunter's benefit, the Bidens still maintain their innocence.

Why do we know so much about the Georgia shooter but NOTHING about Trump's shooter?

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It's only been a few days since the horrific shooting at the Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, and the shooter, Colt Gray, and his father, Colin Gray, have already made their first court appearance. Over the last few days, more and more information has come out about the shooter and his family, including details of Colt's troubled childhood and history of mental health issues. The FBI said Colton had been on their radar.

This situation has Glenn fired up, asking, "Why do we have an FBI?" It seems like every time there is a mass shooting, the FBI unhelpfully admits the shooter was "on the radar," but what good does that do? While it is great we know everything about the Georgia shooter, including what he got for Christmas, why do we still know next to NOTHING about Trump's would-be assassin? Here are three things we know about the Georgia shooter that we stilldon't know about the Trump shooter:

Digital footprint

Just a few days after the shooting, authorities have already released many details of the Georgia shooter, Colt Gray's, digital footprint. This includes extensive conversations and photographs revolving around school shootings that were pulled from Gray's Discord account, a digital messaging platform.

Compared to this, the FBI claims Thomas Crooks, the shooter who almost assassinated Donald Trump, had little to no digital footprint, and outside of an ominous message sent by Crooks on Steam (an online video game platform), we know nothing about his online activities. Doesn't it seem strange that Crooks, a young adult in 2024 who owned a cell phone and a laptop left behind no digital trail of any relevance to his crime?

Home life

The FBI has painted a vivid image of what Colt Gray's home life was like, including his troubling relationship with his parents. They released information about his parents' tumultuous divorce, being evicted from his home, several interactions with law enforcement and CPS, and abuse. Investigators also found written documents of Colt's related to other school shootings, suggesting he had been thinking of this for some time before committing the atrocity.

In contrast, we still know next to nothing about Crooks's home life.

How he got the weapon

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Colt Gray was gifted the rifle he used in the shooting from his father for Christmas last year. We also know Colt's father is an avid hunter and would take Colt on hunting trips. In 2023, Colt was the subject of an investigation regarding a threat he made online to shoot up a school. During the interview, Colt stated he did not make the threat. Moreover, his father admitted to owning several firearms, but said Colt was not allowed full access to them. The investigation was later closed after the accusations could not be sustained.

In comparison, all we know is that Crooks stole his father's rifle and did not inform his parents of any part of his plan. We have no clue how Crooks acquired the rest of his equipment, which included nearly a hundred extra rounds of ammunition, a bullet-proof vest, and several homemade bombs. How did Crooks manage to acquire all of his equipment without the FBI taking notice?

It feels like the FBI is either incompetent or hiding important information from the American people. Or both.

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These ‘conservative’ Glenn Beck critics are now supporting Kamala Harris

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There’s a certain irony in how some of the loudest critics of Glenn Beck within the conservative ranks have now thrown their support behind Kamala Harris, a figure whose politics stand in stark contrast to the values they once claimed to uphold. Let's take a look back at these self-proclaimed guardians of conservatism, who once claimed Glenn Beck was a threat to the conservative movement, but are now backing the most far-left, radical candidate the Democrats have ever produced.

Adam Kinzinger

Adam Kinzinger was elected in 2010 as a Tea Party conservative, riding the wave of anti-establishment sentiment that defined the movement. However, by 2013, he was already distancing himself from the principles that got him elected. Criticizing Glenn Beck for labeling him a RINO, Kinzinger said, "The perception is, if you do one thing out of line with what is considered hard-core conservatism, or what Glenn Beck says or what Mark Levin says, then you are a RINO." Now, he’s taken his political shift to the extreme, endorsing Kamala Harris at the Democratic National Convention and praising her as a defender of democracy—all while claiming to be a Republican and a conservative.

Bill Kristol

Bill Kristol’s flip-flop is even more astounding. Kristol, who once took it upon himself to attack Beck for his warnings about radical Islam and creeping authoritarianism, now finds himself on the same side as Kamala Harris. Kristol’s past criticisms of Beck, comparing him to fringe elements like the John Birch Society, now ring hollow as Kristol himself becomes an apologist for the far left. His endorsement of Harris shows that his commitment was never to conservatism but to whatever political winds would keep him in the spotlight.

Jennifer Rubin

Jennifer Rubin is a prime example of how establishment figures at outlets like The Washington Post have masqueraded as conservatives while working to undermine genuine conservative voices. Rubin, who once criticized Beck by saying, "Rather than reflexively rising to his defense when questioned about Beck, why don’t conservatives call him out and explain that he doesn’t represent the views of mainstream conservatives?" was never truly aligned with conservative values. Her columns have consistently pushed establishment narratives, and now they read like PR pieces for the Democratic Party, especially when it comes to Kamala Harris. Rubin’s journey from supposed conservative commentator to one of the Biden administration’s staunchest defenders shows that her critiques of Beck were always about protecting her place within the Washington elite, not about upholding any real conservative principles.


Kinzinger, Kristol, and Rubin once posed as guardians of conservatism, warning about the supposed dangers of Glenn Beck. Now, they’ve endorsed Kamala Harris, a candidate whose policies are anathema to conservatism. Their criticisms of Beck were never about protecting conservative values—they were about steering the party back under their control. But the real target wasn’t just Beck; it was the audience he represents—everyday conservatives who challenge the status quo. These insiders have always seen that base as the real threat, and their actions make it clear who they were really trying to sideline.