Glenn and Ben Carson debate the role of pragmatism and compromise in politics

Dr. Ben Carson visited The View on Tuesday to talk about his new book One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America's Future, and the interview received a lot of attention because of the overwhelmingly positive response he received after explaining why he believes the current welfare system in the United States is not doing the poor any favors. Glenn knows firsthand how difficult it can be to get the ladies of The View to compromise on any issue, and on radio this morning, Glenn spoke to Carson about the role of pragmatism and compromise in politics.

To begin, Glenn asked Carson to speak a little bit about his new book, which tackles themes like how to react to the politically correct police.

“I talk about [the politically correct police] throughout the book. But basically, their only power is the power of intimidation. And if we decide to ignore them, they have no power. We need to understand the role that they play in manipulating people who really don't think deeply for themselves. And if we can get people to be a bit more knowledgeable, and a lot braver – because [bravery] is really the key,” Carson explained. “You know, and I mentioned before, most of the people in Nazi Germany did not believe in what Hitler was doing, but did they open their mouths? Absolutely not. Now, of course, the left said, ‘Carson says America is the same as Nazi Germany.’ Of course, they love to grab any kind of word, distort it. And this is very effective for people who don't think for themselves.”

With that in mind, Glenn applauded Carson for earning the respect of The View hosts and having an articulate dialogue about the problems with the welfare system in this country.

“Well, you know, I'd had a chance to speak with Whoopie Goldberg before we actually went on set. At first she thought we were very much opposite,” Carson said. “But as began to talk, I said, ‘We actually want the same things, and we can't allow ourselves to be manipulated by those who want to always remove cohesiveness and create division.’ That's what's happening to America right now.”

In a recent op-ed for Townhall.com entitled “Charting a Course Between Principle and Pragmatism,” Carson wrote about a similar theme. After endorsing Dr. Monica Wehby, who is running as a Republican from Oregon, Carson came under fire for supporting a candidate who is personally pro-life but ran as pro-choice because she “feels the government has no business interfering with the relationship between the mother, the baby, the doctor and God.”

Glenn asked Carson, who described himself as pro-life, why he chose to overlook Webby’s position.

“Here's my point. It's going to be a lot easier to bring someone along who agrees with you 90% of the time than somebody who opposes you 100% of the time,” Carson said. “So one of the things that conservatives have to understand is there is a pragmatic approach. We have to get a critical number of people in place so that we can move the pendulum in the correct direction. As it's moving, it doesn't mean that we abandon all those things that you're talking about. We can come back and visit those. But as I said, you know, if the ship is going off of Niagara Falls, we can get the barnacles off later. Let's turn the ship around.”

Glenn questioned, however, if conservatives are being asked to compromise too much.

“I'm willing to compromise in a million different things,” Glenn said. “But nobody is talking to us about compromising.”

“I totally understand what you're saying. Completely 100%. If there is a way – and I'm willing to listen – to never compromise on anything and still put ourselves in position to have the power, to do what needs to be done, I'm with it,” Carson responded. “We can be purists and never get into office, or we can be pragmatic, get into office, and then bring about the change that we want.

Carson evoked former President Ronald Reagan to further illustrate his point.

“I'm more in line with what Ronald Reagan said,” he explained. “Ronald Reagan said sometimes we have to hold our nose and do something that isn't completely in line with our value system, recognizing that it will provide us with the opportunity to bring about the change, rather than always sitting on the sideline and complaining.”

Ultimately, Glenn remains impressed with the way Carson has handled himself in spite of all the backlash he has faced. And while Carson remains mum on what the future holds for him politically, he does believe God will provide.

“The one thing I do know is that I think God still loves our country,” Carson concluded. “We still acknowledge Him, a large number of us, some of us are a little bit timid about it, but I don't think He's going to forsake us. And I think He's going to give us what we need.”

Several months ago, at the Miss Universe competition, two women took a selfie, then posted it on Instagram. The caption read, "Peace and love." As a result of that selfie, both women faced death threats, and one of the women, along with her entire family, had to flee her home country. The occasion was the 2017 Miss Universe competition, and the women were Miss Iraq and Miss Israel. Miss Iraq is no longer welcome in her own country. The government threatened to strip her of her crown. Of course, she was also badgered for wearing a bikini during the competition.

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In an interview, Miss Iraq, Sarah Idan, said:

When I posted the picture I didn't think for a second there would be blowback. I woke up to calls from my family and the Miss Iraq Organization going insane. The death threats I got online were so scary. The director of the Miss Iraq Organization called me and said they're getting heat from the ministry. He said I have to take the picture down or they will strip me of my title.

Yesterday, Miss Iraq, Sarah Idan, posted another selfie with Miss Israel, during a visit to Jerusalem.

In an interview, she said that:

I don't think Iraq and Israel are enemies; I think maybe the governments are enemies with each other. There's a lot of Iraqi people that don't have a problem with Israelis.

This is, of course, quite an understatement: Iraq, home to roughly 15,000 Palestinians, refuses to acknowledge Israel as a legitimate country, as it is technically at war with Israel. The adages says that a picture is worth a thousand words. What are we to do when many of those words are hateful or deadly? And how can we find the goodness in such bad situations?

No political bias. That's the catchphrase you're likely to see blasted all over the news today. The Office of the Inspector General found no evidence that political bias played any role, either with former director Comey or other FBI agents, during the Hillary Clinton email investigation. So is it "all good now"... "carry on"... "nothing to see here"? Hardly. Here are a few of the highlights from the 568 page report.

The report makes it clear that there's no evidence that political bias influenced this investigation, but why did they take five hundred and sixty eight pages to make that point? Well, after reading it, I kind of think they want us to understand how difficult it is to prove political bias. I think the Inspector General wants us to read this report in its entirety, and read between the lines. Here are a few of the highlights.

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First and foremost, this report straight eviscerated James Comey. You know one of the most controversial decisions of President Trump's tenure - so far - has been his decision to fire the former FBI director. Let's imagine for a second that Trump never did that and Comey was sitting at his desk at the Hoover Building yesterday. I can almost guarantee you that after the release of this report yesterday, Comey would have been fired by this morning anyway. Here are just a few quotes describing his behavior:

"Extraordinary and insubordinate"... not "reasonable"... "engaged in ad hoc decision making"... "serious error in judgement"

So the Hillary train keeps on rolling. She'll escape a courtroom for the fourteen thousandth time.

It goes on and on. This report just destroys Comey's behavior. There's no way he could have remained FBI Director.

The report goes on to analyze the behavior of several FBI agents that were involved in the Clinton investigation. Strzok and Page were but two of five employees that showed questionable behavior, either through text messages or instant messaging. If you read the texts and transcripts, they're pretty damning. In Strzok's case, his bias could have caused a delay in analyzing the contents of Anthony Weiner's laptop. I say again, it could have, but as the OIG alludes… political bias is hard to prove. Another agent that had been caught saying questionable things on an instant messaging service, was actually one of the agents that conducted Hillary Clinton's interview. In that interview, the OIG seems to acknowledge that the FBI had caught Hillary in a lie, and still they let her go. But… political bias is hard to prove.

See the theme here?

So the Hillary train keeps on rolling. She'll escape a courtroom for the fourteen thousandth time. But, as is the common theme for the entire Clinton family, it is those around them that suffer the most. The FBI has been tarnished. People have lost their jobs. Agents have been humiliated. All this for an arrogant and corrupt politician.

Attention earthlings: a "climate emergency" exists. It's official now, because the Berkeley City Council declared it. So, it must be true.

Frankly, you must be living under a rock if you didn't already know that a state of climate emergency exists. And if you don't do something about it, like now, you could be living under a rock very soon. Because according to the foremost authority on climate doom — the Berkeley City Council — this emergency is as dire as World War II.

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Council Member Cheryl Davila warns that global warming is driving us toward, "…the sixth mass extinction of species, which could devastate much of life on earth for the next 10 million years."

The city council resolution says:

During World War II, the Bay Area came together across race, age, class, gender and other differences in an extraordinary regional mobilization, building and repairing Liberty ships, converting car assembly plants into tank manufacturing facilities…

The Berkeley City Council says the only way to avert World War II-level disaster is if Americans mobilize in the same way now to confront climate change as we did in 1942 to confront Nazism. Because climate change and Nazism are definitely the same.

It gets worse. The resolution calls our current climate emergency "the greatest crisis in history."

Seriously, their resolution sounds straight out of the Galactic Empire handbook — "mobilizing workers" to build and install "renewable energy infrastructure."

Technically, that means Berkeley will have to completely transform into an Amish community in 12 years.

Berkeley committed itself to becoming a "carbon sink" by 2030. For the uninitiated, that means they want the city's greenhouse gas emissions to be in the negative. Technically, that means Berkeley will have to completely transform into an Amish community in 12 years. Except they won't be able to use any farm animals, because you know, too much methane.

Becoming a carbon sink is not their only strategy. Their resolution also mentions that earth has too many people screwing up the atmosphere, so we must "humanely stabilize population." Interesting — there were some World War II-era figures also interested in "stabilizing" population. They just forgot the "humane" part.

This weekend, June 15-17, Glenn Beck and Mercury One will be hosting the "Rights & Responsibilities" pop-up museum at Mercury Studios. Private tours through the museum will be led by Glenn Beck, David Barton, Doc Thompson, Stu Burguiere, Jeffy Fisher and Brad Staggs, each providing their own unique perspective on our rights and responsibilities.

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Glenn Beck and Mercury One will be hosting the "Rights & Responsibilities" pop-up museum at Mercury Studios.