Colonel Allen West joined the radio program today and announced he’s moved to Texas, as he is now President & CEO of the NCPA in Dallas. West is a strong, liberty minded conservative whose surprising re-election loss in Congress shocked the political world. Glenn asked West for his thoughts on a wide range of issues, including ongoing world events. Watch the conversation below where West and Glenn discuss ISIS, terrorism, World War III, political allies, and our country's future.
Rough transcript below:
GLENN: The boys asked me earlier today because I believe we're on course, without moral clarity, we're on course, between Russia and what is happening in the Middle East, a global war.
WEST: You're there.
WEST: You are there.
GLENN: We're at the beginning.
WEST: Yeah, we're not recognize it. And I hate to say this, but if there's a message that I can send to my former colleagues, I would not support the president's resolution because it does not have any clarity.
WEST: What you heard him present yesterday was really just a repeat of what he said back in August. We're going to degrade. We're going to defeat. We're going to destroy.
Now, a year ago, ISIS was about 3,000 fighters when they come over. It was the reconstitution of al-Qaeda in Iraq. Now they're 50,000. And it's so funny that you had his counterterrorism expert testifying before, I think a House committee, talking about the 18,000 fighters that have come into -- into ISIS, but yet the president is talking about their morale is down.
There is a complete disconnect. And like you said, once again, there is no specific strategy or clarity. How do we defeat them diplomatic -- how do we isolate them economically? How do we then use, you know, the leverage of information systems to defeat them ideologically. We can't do that because we have a president that won't even say Islamic terrorism. How will you defeat the enemy when you don't recognize the ideology driving them?
GLENN: I answered the boys this morning when we were talking about this. I said, I think we're on the verge of World War III.
GLENN: And it is not worth -- because they said. Can we defeat them without ground troops? And I said I wouldn't send any ground troops or anybody in until we have moral clarity. Because all we're doing is throwing bodies into something -- it's just a meat grinder. It's just a meat grinder.
PAT: But if ever somehow obtain moral clarity, and we won't as long as this guy is president, but can you defeat them without ground troops?
WEST: No, you can't. The only time in the history of United States military we defeated someone with air power, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Otherwise, you have people to close with and destroy the enemy, if that's the task that you want to achieve, is to destroy them.
PAT: And could you not at this point put together a pretty solid Islamic Middle Eastern coalition with us? Jordanians, I would think would be on board. The Saudis would be on board.
WEST: You have Egypt.
WEST: Well, see, I don't trust the Saudis. Because a lot of the funding for Wahhabism and a lot of these ISIS fighters are being fueled out of Saudi Arabia. And, of course, 15 of the 19 9/11 conspirators were out of Saudi Arabia. But, Egypt, definitely. Jordan, definitely. The Kurds, the Peshmerga, definitely. The United States of America. And then you probably would be able to get some support out of the UAE. Because when I was in Afghanistan, the UAE special forces were operating there in southern Afghanistan. That's how you build a coalition.
GLENN: But we are -- like you said with the Muslim Brotherhood. We're against Egypt. We're on the wrong side.
WEST: We're sending the wrong message.
GLENN: No, no, no. We're on the wrong side. We're on the wrong side not just sending the wrong message. What is your opinion of what's happening with Benjamin Netanyahu right now?
WEST: That's even worse. There's another strong ally we could have. But instead, the Obama administration is sending campaign operatives to work against him. Why would you want to work against your best ally and the best leader that you have on your side? You know, no one is going to join a coalition of the United States of America when the United States of America is not leading. Coming back to what you just said. There is no moral clarity. This is about -- as clear as mud. When you look at what the president -- he didn't ask for any authorization going into Libya. Look at what Libya has become. Look at what is happening in Yemen. And this story that potentially a state department representative told United States Marines to destroy their weapons as part of an evacuation of an embassy.
GLENN: From Yemen. Right?
WEST: Yes, from Yemen. And I think that is the third embassy that the United States of America has closed since 2010. So not only --
GLENN: That's insane.
WEST: Not only are we on the wrong side. We are sending the wrong message to our allies.