Last night, Glenn was joined by TheBlaze’s Sara Carter to discuss the arrest of Senior State Department official Daniel Rosen. Rosen was arrested Tuesday afternoon for allegedly soliciting a juvenile. How far does the corruption in the State Department go? Sara reveals some of the shocking details she has uncovered as part of the ‘For The Record’ team with Glenn.
Glenn: I want to say a special note to our team in Ohio, our documentary film team for TheBlaze. They are unsung heroes of this network. You don’t really ever hear them or see them. Somebody is always up front presenting the material that they work long and hard year round, and these guys, I have to tell you, depression medication was made for them because they see the worst of the worst and then have to try to figure out how to present it.
Sara Carter is the senior investigative correspondent now for TheBlaze and For the Record. She broke the story last night of Daniel Rosen on TheBlaze. She joins us now from Washington, D.C. Sara, this is not the first time you have worked with our sources on Daniel Rosen. You knew about this guy for quite some time.
Sara: Yeah, you know, this goes back years, Glenn, maybe even more than ten years when I was working with sources overseas that were connected with State Department. There was a lot of concern among many of my sources, some of them whistleblowers inside USCIS which is United States Immigration and Citizenship Services and other departments that there was extensive corruption within the State Department. A lot of these men like Daniel Rosen who was trying to solicit a minor would go overseas and have, according to the sources, sex with minors, solicit prostitution, use of illegal drugs, and you’ve got to think, Glenn, these are the people, just like you talked about, that are negotiating with foreign governments, that are the liaisons between the United States, the information that they are receiving and also our intelligence agencies like the CIA and the NSA. So, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard about Rosen and others like him.
Glenn: Right, and if we know it, certainly our adversaries know this. Now, I want to talk specifically about Rosen because this is rampant in the State Department. There’s a lot of this going on. We have heard horrifying stories of sex with underage boys and underage girls in foreign countries, just truly evil, despicable things that are pushed under the carpet at the State Department. It’s my understanding that the State Department did watch For the Record last year and were kind of shaken a bit by it because somebody is finally onto them, but this guy, he is a counterintelligence guy. So, tell me the danger that he would pose to us had he not been caught by one of our people, instead he was caught, you know, if he would’ve been caught by somebody else.
Sara: Well, we don’t even know. I mean, he’s been in this position for quite some time, since 2008. He is the Counterterrorism Director of the State Department. He is our liaison to our other intelligence agencies when he’s working overseas. How do we know? We really don’t know yet if while he was overseas he was soliciting minors, if other intelligence, foreign intelligence networks gathered that information, and he could have been leaking this information.
Rosen had the highest level security clearance that you can get in the United States. This top-secret security clearance requires a polygraph examination. I am stunned that he actually passed his polygraphs, because one of the questions, and James Clapper talked about this the other day, is have you ever committed a crime? So, it doesn’t say were you ever charged with a crime, have you ever committed a crime, so we would have had to answer that question under a poly by a professional polygraph person.
These people hold onto their jobs, and it’s unbeknownst to me how they can do it. You’re right, this is a direct national security threat. You know, he is not the only one. Other people within the State Department, other whistleblowers have brought forth charges. A lot of these charges are under seal right now, Glenn. We’re not allowed to talk about them. We have heard that they are being held right now. Congress can go ahead and investigate if they so choose. They have not done this yet, but I can tell you this, it doesn’t stop with Rosen.
Glenn: Why, why haven’t they chosen?
Sara: That is the same question I keep asking members of Congress, and I never get a direct answer.
Glenn: Could I ask you this, Sara, could a guy like this, let’s say somebody comes into the country, and he is earmarked a terrorist of the highest level, could he get him in and then remove that earmark from his record, just have that disappear, and all of a sudden all of the stuff that we had gathered on that, let’s say it was a Saudi citizen, is that possible, that this guy could have been responsible?
Sara: Yeah, Glenn, I’m going to tell you that’s not only possible, I believe it’s happened in the past. I was privy to an alien file which was a document that was a screenshot from the Kansas City, Missouri processing center. This is where we give people visas. You know, they of the list of people that are applying for visas. I actually saw documentation that showed that a contractor was changing people’s A-Files from visitor visas and student visas to full citizenship. That’s impossible to do unless you have access to these systems. So yes, I don’t know about Rosen, I don’t have evidence that Rosen did this, but it is definitely possible. This is the seriousness of these charges. Not only is it abhorrent behavior that we look at it, and it’s inhumane, it’s wrong, it’s despicable.
Glenn: No, it’s evil. It’s evil. When I heard the charges, not just necessarily from Rosen, I’ve heard them on the other charges, and I know you’ve seen them as well because you guys have been investigating this for over a year. I mean, honestly, Sara, it makes me say there’s no way for our country to survive. If we put up with this kind of evil in our people’s name, and we are abusing children, underage children, there’s no way we can survive. I don’t believe in my country anymore, because if the State Department won’t do something, who will? They look the other way.
Sara: I’ll tell you who will, well, but the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Department should be applauded here, and I’m going to tell you why they were able to get Rosen. They were able to nab their guy because they did not inform the State Department that they were conducting this investigation. This is an independent law enforcement. This is what we need to look for, our independent law enforcement.
The Child Exploitation Unit at the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Department said we’re going to go after this guy. We have evidence that this guy is soliciting minors. We don’t care if he’s the counterterrorism director. In fact, we care more that he is, and we’re going to find out if this guy’s doing this. When they brought him into questioning yesterday, they picked him up at his home, they took him away. They were questioning him. They had a warrant, and they took his other devices, because one of the questions that I asked and they haven’t been able to answer me or maybe they just can’t right now, was was he using government devices to contact these children? Was he in contact with pedophiles? Are there others in his department that are emailing with him? They weren’t able to answer all these questions.
Glenn: Sara, when you have a culture that will overlook things like this, these people start to congregate. I mean, I can’t imagine the rat’s nest, and Clinton knows about it. Obama has to know about it. Kerry knows about it. They have to know about it, and they look the other way.
Sara: That’s right. So many charges have been dropped on very significant senior people in the State Department or investigations are ongoing. I know there’s an investigation against the U.S. Ambassador to Belgium, allegations that he was soliciting minors, and that is an ongoing investigation, and they returned him back to his post in Belgium. So yes, you’re absolutely right, they are turning the other way, and you made a very good point. I talked to some intelligence sources before coming in to talk to you today. This is exactly how things are set up, so that when you have corruptible people in high-level positions, you can use that against them to get your way because now you have evidence. So, not only can the bad guys, but the bad guys within your own government are using them as well.
Glenn: Yep. Okay, real quick because I’ve got less than a minute, two things: Have you talked to anybody on Capitol Hill today that was like, “Oh my gosh, this is great news, and we can go for it”? And two, how are the whistleblowers? How are their moods today? Is this good news for them? Are they still being hammered?
Sara: You know, Rick Higbie was a whistleblower that will be in tonight’s episode of For the Record, a long investigation with our team in Ohio. He is suffering from some serious medical conditions right now. He hasn’t been able to go back to work. He’s on emergency medical leave. Otherwise, he would have been with you today. His daughter, Logan, suffered another seizure last week, but he said he is not giving up this fight.
Glenn: They’ve destroyed him.
Sara: They really did. They destroyed him and his family, but guess what, they haven’t destroyed his spirit, so he’s still moving forward. And as for Capitol Hill, yes, I heard a senior senator is looking into this. He has information now, and he is considering taking this to an investigative level on the Hill. So, this is very, very important news, and, you know, we just hope everyone watches the show tonight. I think that for those who haven’t seen it and for those that have, this is just going to show you how Pandora’s Box opened, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more to this story.
Glenn: It is. Thank you, Sara. I appreciate it. Thanks for all of your hard work, and thanks to for everybody at For the Record. I will tell you, Sara is right when she said it’s just the tip of the iceberg. I was disappointed a little bit in this episode because I know the things that we are also investigating that were not in the episode, and I’m telling you, you will lose your faith in your country.
We must stand together on this, and we must stand to do the right thing. Pray for your country, and pray that good, decent Americans stand up to stop the nightmares that are being perpetrated with our flag and our people’s name in the room.