Rick Perry shares a disturbing story about the border

Will Rick Perry run for President of the United States? He hasn’t announced, but he’s certainly talking like it’s a possibility. He joined Glenn on radio this morning to talk about some of the important issues facing the next president - including the border and illegal immigration. To illustrate just how bad things are, he shared a story of a disturbing meeting he had with President Obama.

When asked how he would secure the border, Perry explained the three steps that need to be taken - and revealed just how far off we are.

First, Perry said you need to put personnel in the right places to secure the border. Not only has President Obama failed to do this, he didn't know where his Border Patrol were even stationed.

"Let me tell you a side story here. Sitting on the ramp in Marine One, I told the president about his Border Patrol that was back 45 to 50 miles away from the border in an apprehension mode. He literally looked over to Valerie Jarrett and said,'is that right, Valerie?' I mean, the president himself did not know where his Border Patrol was stationed," Perry said.

Perry said personnel needed to be on the border and in the river where people are crossing.

"The second part of this is strategic fencing, which by and large is in place in the metropolitan areas," Perry said.

"But the third thing. And this is the most important one, I would suggest to you to finally secure the border. You know, put the personnel in the right places. But it's aviation assets. These are fixed wing, our drones. I mean, we have the technology. We have the ability to look now, 24/7, all kinds of weather. Fly from Tijuana to El Paso. El Paso to Brownsville, 1800 miles, looking down every inch of the border. Technology, when you see suspicious or clearly illegal activity, have quick response teams that go and address that at that particular point in time.

"Glenn, that will secure the border."

GLENN: There are like a million people now running for president of the United States on the G.O.P. side. But there's a few that actually have really good track records. One of them is Rick Perry. Welcome to the program.

RICK: Great to be with you. How is the family?

GLENN: Very good. Very good.

RICK: Good.

GLENN: How is life not being the governor of Texas?

RICK: Well, I'm not having to look for anything to do.

GLENN: Yeah.

RICK: We're still very busy. Anita is overseeing the building of a house 70 miles east of Austin. Just outside of Round Top, Texas. Population, 90. So we've got a wonderful place over there on 70 acres with two of my best friends from college. A couple of marine veterans who live over there with us. So it's a -- I love my life. It's -- you know, we've got work to do in this country. But there's always a haven to come home to in the great state of Texas.

GLENN: I will tell you. One time -- I don't even know if you remember this. But we sat and chatted 45 minutes or so one day. And you just told me a little bit -- and I didn't know -- a little about your life growing up. That you grew up out in the middle of nowhere. Where they didn't even have electricity. So you -- I mean, you have seen it all in your life.

RICK: 15 miles from the closest place that had a Post Office. But, actually, we had electricity. Rural Electric had come out there two years before we moved into that house. We still had an old carbide (phonetic) plant that allowed for the lights to work at night prior to REA coming in.

Anyway, it was a wonderful life. I tell people, listen, we weren't poor. We didn't have indoor plumbing. We lived like nearly anybody else. But we were really rich in the sense of two fabulous parents. You know, a kid with a dog and a pony and lots of land to roam on. So I was incredibly rich to grow up in Paint Creek. Have some great people. Scoutmasters, coaches, and teachers who loved me and pointed me in the right direction in life. So I'm one of the most blessed people that I know.

GLENN: So you're not running for president of the United States at this point. But coincidentally, you were in Iowa last weekend.

RICK: We will make an announcement on the 4th of June of what our intentions will be. I thought you were talking about that I'm not running for president because I am a blessed man.


GLENN: No, no, no. You're not running -- you do have to move to Washington, DC, if you do win. Which is a bad thing.

RICK: Hey, listen there are things you have to give up. But this country is worth a lot of sacrifice. I was just with a young man over the course of the last 24 hours. He lost all four of his limbs in defense of freedom. And, you know, I look at that and I go, whatever I need to do. Whatever the people of this country need to do to defend the freedoms that he gave up so much for is the story of what a lot of us need to be about.

GLENN: I will tell you, we have a lot of mutual friends. A lot of SEAL friends and Special Forces friends. And you are the favorite of all of the people that I have met in Special Forces. Because you -- you do actively get involved. And a lot of it is behind the scenes. A lot of people don't know all the things that you have done. And how hard you have pushed. I would imagine, if you were president, one of the first things you would do is -- is gut the VA.

RICK: That's a conversation that I had today with a young Army man who actually he had lost three of his limbs. And Jack Zimmerman. Jack lives up in Minnesota. And I visited with Jack over the course of the last 24, 48 hours. And he and I were talking about that. That every day, every day, these young men and women deserve somebody who wakes up, goes to the White House, goes to the Oval Office, and picks up the phone and asks the secretary of the Veterans Administration, are you getting that place to where it needs to be? Cajoling the senior staff. Have we straightened out the Veterans Administration? Are they getting the benefits on a timely basis? Have we fired the people who are responsible for this debacle? And that's not happening today. Because if it were happening today, that place would be getting straightened up, and it's not. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any successes at the Veterans Administration from the standpoint of where our veterans -- whether it's the 90-year-old, as my father is, or whether it's a 19-year-old who deserves the treatment that we promised, Glenn. I mean, that's the tragedy here. These young men and women have come. They put their hand up. They swore their allegiance to take care of this country and to defend the Constitution and the freedoms. And then they come home, and they find that they're not being taken care of. That there's long lines. That -- we've got -- I don't know what the number is. How many suicides per day. The federal government says it's 22. But that's not all. I mean, that's -- I would suggest to you that it's more than that by a substantial margin. Because they don't even count California and Texas in those numbers. And we -- I mean, we ought to be incensed from the standpoint that the Veterans Administration all too often is handing a bag of pills to these kids and patting them on the back and sending them out the door. And people are wondering, you know, why can't they get a job? You know, why are they killing themselves? And it's because our federal government is not living up to its promise to take of these kids. And let me tell you, wherever I end up in life, you know, if I decide to run for the presidency, obviously my intention is to win it. And America will know one thing, they will have a president of the United States that gets up every day intent on making sure that the men and women who have served this country get the support and the services that we promised.

GLENN: Rick, we are -- we're looking at a country that is completely out of control right now. 188 trillion -- I'm sorry. $1.88 trillion now. Just what it costs because of federal regulations in the United States. The overreach by the federal government into everything. And the -- the lack of ability to accomplish anything, and it's -- it's only going to get worse. We have people now who are -- who are intent on is getting all of our streets on fire with the riots.

And you know and I know, the Al Sharptons and the Black Panthers, they're not going to sit down. They are going to try to set, you know, every city on fire with the police. With that happening, plus the militarization of our police, how do you balance that? How do you fix what's going on there?

RICK: Well, I think it starts at the very top. You start sending, you know, a powerful message out that we'll be number one, a rule of law. And these kinds of activities that are clearly illegal, clearly outside of the bounds of decency and the rule of law, they're not going to be accepted. And, you know, that's the first marker you put in place. And the second one is, I mean, I believe we can have a conversation in this country about how you address a lot of the -- what's perceived to be the -- the inequities in this country and, you know, my home state, for instance, I think did a great job of dealing with the issue of young men and women, individuals who nonviolent drug-related events that were being sent to prison for long periods of time. And we put drug courts into place in Texas. Drug courts into place. Actually we had prostitution courts and veterans courts on the back end of that. But in '07, we put into place drug courts, where we gave judges the opportunity, the flexibility, if you will, to deal with the nonviolent drug-related offenses, rather than throwing them in jail and throwing the key away, which was kind of the standard operating procedure back in the '90s. And people who gave up hope, we gave them options of treatment, shock probation. And instead of destroying young people's lives, they were given a second chance, if you will. And I would suggest to you that that's one of the conversations we need to have all across the country. Where those people who think -- and may have a righteous position, that these young people have been put in to bad positions. To give them their life back. We closed down three prison units over the last four years, saved $2 billion in taxpayer money. That's smart on crime, Glenn.

GLENN: You also have, however, a frightening thing happen that I've never seen in my lifetime. A growing distrust of the government from people who are usually waving the flag and very pro America and pro government. I don't know if we ever should have been pro government. But people that generally have trusted the government. We had operation Jade Helm. And you know, I mean, that took law-abiding normal citizens, a lot of people saying, wait a minute. What's going on? Is the government going to try to take over Texas? I mean, some crazy things are happening now because we don't trust each other.

RICK: Yes. Here's the interesting -- I think -- and if you put an individual, and I'll use myself. You know, I haven't announced for the presidency. But if I did. Let's say if I were to become the president of the United States, I think there will be a clearly change of attitude towards that office, what comes out of that office, the messaging that comes out of that office, that clearly puts America back on the course -- I hope people always question government. They should. Our Founding Fathers sent us that message that we ought to question government. But don't question your military. Don't question the men and women who have put their hands up and sworn this oath to our Constitution to defend this country. And to know that there is someone there who truly wants to get this country back on track to get America being America again, where our allies trust us, and they know this is a place that is going to be standing with us. That has the ability economically to get this country back on track, domestically strong from the standpoint of bringing manufacturing back. Lowering the corporate tax rate. Giving people the opportunity to have the dignity of a good job. But also, that allows the resources to come back into this country that can build our military back -- in fact, we have the smallest military -- excuse me -- the smallest army that we've had since 1940, Glenn.

GLENN: So let me play Judy Woodruff here for just a second. Are you telling me that you don't believe that Barack Obama wants to bring America's engine back and prosperity back?

RICK: Well, I look at his results in the last six and a half years, obviously that's not the case. If he did, he would have lowered the corporate tax rate. If he did, he would have opened the XL Pipeline. I mean, listen, your track record is what you're going to get graded on, buddy. And his track record is abysmal when it comes to economic development and bringing this country back economically. I mean, it's -- that is not even arguable. That's unquestionable.

GLENN: Tell me about the border. How do we fix this with the Republicans pushing for, you know, total -- basically amnesty and, quite honestly, Rick, that is the -- that is the last thing we need to do. There are four and a half million people right now waiting in line to become a citizen of the United States of America. And we're gifting it to everybody who came in the middle of the night.

RICK: Yeah.

GLENN: But more importantly, you know and I know, ISIS is either on our border or will be on our border in short order. How are we going to get control of that?

RICK: Listen, the security of the border is not rocket science. As a matter of fact last summer when the president came and I met with him and I told him, I said, Mr. President, you don't secure the border, Texas will. And after the meeting, Glenn, I knew he wasn't going to take any action. We deployed our National Guard there. We saw a 70 percent decrease in the apprehensions, just by what Texas had done.

You have a president of the United States who is committed to securing the border, and I would suggest in a relatively short period of time, the border would be secured. And you do it by three actions.

One is obviously personnel and putting the personnel on the border in the right places.

Let me tell you a side story here. Sitting on the ramp in Marine One, I told the president about his Border Patrol that was back 45 to 50 miles away from the border in an apprehension mode. He literally looked over to Valerie Jarrett and said, is that right, Valerie? I mean, the president himself did not know where his Border Patrol was stationed. And so there's this clear way to put personnel on the border, in the river, which is what we did with our Parks & Wildlife coordinates.

GLENN: Right.

RICK: And then the second part of this is strategic fencing, which by and large is in place in the metropolitan areas. But the third thing. And this is the most important one, I would suggest to you to finally secure the border. You know, put the personnel in the right places. But it's aviation assets. These are fixed wing. Are drones. I mean, we have the technology. We have the ability to look now, 24/7, all kinds of weather. Fly from Tijuana to El Paso. El Paso to Brownsville, 1800 miles, looking down every inch of the border. Technology, when you see suspicious or clearly illegal activity, have quick response teams that go and address that at that particular point in time. Glenn, that will secure the border. And at that particular point in time, we know the border is secure.

GLENN: One last question, Scott Walker said that he -- because he's flip-flopped on the border. And he said he changed his mind when he was with several governors from the southern states. And they explained to him what was happening on the border and that's why he's changed his opinion on what happened on the border. Were you one of those governors, or have you talked to him at all about this?

RICK: If I've talked to him on the border, I don't know -- you know, I can't make a decision about what he took away from any conversation he had with me. I don't recall having one. But everyone knows my opinion on this border. You have to secure the border first. You can't have a conversation about any type of immigration reform until the border is secure. Americans do not trust Washington, DC, absolutely under any circumstance to have a conversation about immigration reform until the border is secure.

Now, I think this country was -- this country was created on immigrants. It was created on legal immigration. And a lot of the, you know, most successful companies in this country were started by legal immigrants. We need legal immigrants. We need people who are coming in this country who love this country, are coming for the right reason, high-skilled visa holders. When they're hired, interestingly -- and this is some Hoover Institute data --

GLENN: Rick, I hate to interrupt you. I'm up against a hard network break.

RICK: Well, you know, securing the border is the key. You don't get the border secure, and you can forget the immigration reform conversation. It's not going to happen.

PAT: Obviously, you're not running for president yet. But if you had been, I mean, is there a place where people could go to help out?

GLENN: Ten seconds.

RICK: Well, one of the --

GLENN: RickPerry.com?

RICK: RickPerry.org. Ride with Rick. We're going to have a ride up in Iowa on June the 6th, which will be a lot of fun. A lot of festivities there. RickPerry.org. Ride with Rick.

GLENN: You got it. Rick Perry, appreciate it.

Would Glenn make a better bounty hunter or a Jedi? You'll have to find out in a new episode of the Beltway Banthas Podcast, where Glenn goes deep on Star Wars with host Stephen Kent. In this 45 minute discussion, Stephen and Glenn explore the political themes of the Star Wars franchise, Darth Vader's redemption from Return of the Jedi, Glenn's earliest memories of seeing the films and even debate elements of the latest Star Wars films.

If you enjoy the pop culture and nerdy discussions that Glenn, Pat and Stu get into on the radio show, you'll love this! After you're through, you can also check out Stu Burguiere's appearance on Beltway Banthas to talk Star Wars. You can find that here.

It's never too early to start your Christmas, Hanukah, or Kwanzaa shopping. Or even birthday gift shopping. Especially if that special someone in your life is a Democrat. Because at last count, pretty much all the Democrats are now running for president. And that means there has never been a wider selection of official candidate merchandise to choose from. Whether you're into environmentalism, feminism, classism, socialism, or just plain love, there is a smorgasbord of classy items that you and yours will treasure forever... or at least until the next presidential election.

We have browsed each of the candidates' online stores, so you don't have to (it only took us three months). We have curated only the finest items from each of the Democrats running for president of the United States of America. Without further ado, here is your handy progressive gift guide – or maybe your what-not-to-gift guide.

First, the bargain basement options. Hurry! Time is running out to grab your Beto bandana, or your Delaney pack of golf balls, because at this point Stu has as much of a chance as these guys of getting the nomination.

Tom Steyer, for example – is he still in the race?


There's way too much Tom here. That shirt's got more Toms than a Caucasian dentists' convention.

For the slightly more moderate Democrat in your life, perhaps they'd like to join the "Yang Gang"…


Andrew Yang is a lock for Math Club president…


But for actual president? Well, I wouldn't make plans for how you're going to spend your $1,000-per-month Yang allowance just yet.

If you happen to be shopping for your dog, may I suggest this lovely "Dogs for Delaney" dog collar…


John Delaney's definitely going to secure the canine vote with this kind of outreach. As for any human votes, that's another question entirely.

How 'bout this tastefully understated "Natural Canvas" Michael Bennet tote to remind you he's also still here?...


Then again, it's a tote. So, it'll end up on the floor of your closet and you won't have it with you until that one random moment when you're out somewhere and you really need a tote bag. Just like Democrats will really wish they had a moderate when we're in the middle of the socialist nightmare of their creation.

Captain Planet himself, Jay Inslee recently dropped out of the race, but don't let that stop you from picking up what may be the greatest single item sold by anyone in this race…


A children's book called Elvis & the Elves: the Mystery of the Melting Snow. Written and illustrated by Governor Jay Inslee. Talk about a whodunnit – how could that snow possibly be melting? Spoiler alert: it's because of evil, white, patriarchal capitalism. And Donald Trump.

Then there's the candidate who thinks you're a moron that can't pronounce his last name: Steve Bullock...


Get it? Bull. Lock. Oh, so that's how you say the name that sounds exactly how it's spelled.

There's another candidate who also thinks you need help pronouncing his last name…


And he is definitely right about that. So, thank you, Pete "Boot Edge Edge." That helps.

Just outside the bargain bin section, but just barely, are candidates like Julian Castro and his "El Presidente" t-shirt…


When your last name's Castro, do you really want to go with a weird drawing of yourself as if you're a classic Latin American dictator on a postage stamp?

If you prefer a little "dark psychic forces" battling in your candidates, you'll love Marianne Williamson's "Turn Love Into a Political Force" rally sign…


"Turn Love Into a Political Force" would be an even better title for a Marianne Williamson album of 80s cover songs. And if you think I'm joking, then you haven't heard Bernie Sanders' classic 1987 folk album, We Shall Overcome. That's not a joke. Well, it is a joke, but it's also a very real thing.

Now, just a quick pause to consider the peculiar baby-wear that way too many candidates are selling…

…including Elizabeth Warren's trans-pride flag onesie. Let me get this straight – we can't force any gender on a child, because that's just cruel. But we can force a political advertisement on a baby? How do we know that baby is actually a Biden or Warren fan? The child may not even be a Democrat or a Socialist at all. That baby might self-identify as a Libertarian, or Republican, or even worse – a moderate Democrat.

Now to the premium items from the premium candidates. Elizabeth Warren – the candidate with the most honesty in her advertising…




Warren's merchandise reflects the woman herself – cold and humorless (watch her "This isn't funny" clip from the last debate here at the 4:27 mark). I'm sure she's really fun once you get to know her. Then again, maybe not.

Speaking of serious women, Kamala Harris wants to be president very badly for you, the people, as you can tell from her "For the People" poster…


At $29.99 though, she's sure not charging "people's" prices. Of course, she might be having to pay royalties to a certain someone for riffing on their poster. Just saying.

For the race's number one socialist, there's a whole lot of capitalism going on in Bernie Sanders' campaign. He sells so many delightful items that it's hard to choose. But we did anyway. The most random item is this hundred-dollar, black, "Art of a Political Revolution – Artists for Bernie Sanders Coaches Jacket"…


Coaches across the land will be clamoring for this one. You know, since coaches are such a strong Bernie-socialist demographic.

If that's a little over your budget you might consider a "Feel the Bern" fanny pack, to help store all those government freebies you'll get from Bernie…


This is the only context in which you'll ever want to hear "feel the burn" and "fanny" in the same sentence.

And finally, from front-runner Joe Biden, we have this fine "Women's Fitted Biden Polo." Which is just about the best polo description ever…


It promises the kind of snug approach that Biden loves to provide women. Even when they don't ask.

This was one of the first homesteads in the area in the 1880's and was just begging to be brought back to its original glory — with a touch of modern. When we first purchased the property, it was full of old stuff without any running water, central heat or AC, so needless to say, we had a huge project ahead of us. It took some vision and a whole lot of trust, but the mess we started with seven years ago is now a place we hope the original owners would be proud of.

To restore something like this is really does take a village. It doesn't take much money to make it cozy inside, if like me you are willing to take time and gather things here and there from thrift shops and little antique shops in the middle of nowhere.

But finding the right craftsman is a different story.

Matt Jensen and his assistant Rob did this entire job from sketches I made. Because he built this in his off hours it took just over a year, but so worth the wait. It wasn't easy as it was 18"out of square. He had to build around that as the entire thing we felt would collapse. Matt just reinforced the structure and we love its imperfections.

Here are a few pictures of the process and the transformation from where we started to where we are now:

​How it was

It doesn't look like much yet, but just you wait and see!

By request a photo tour of the restored cabin. I start doing the interior design in earnest tomorrow after the show, but all of the construction guys are now done. So I mopped the floors, washed the sheets, some friends helped by washing the windows. And now the unofficial / official tour.

The Property

The views are absolutely stunning and completely peaceful.