Conservative author Ann Coulter squared off with FusionTV's Jorge Ramos over illegal immigration, and made a pretty bold statement about the threat illegal immigrants pose. “If you don't want to be killed by ISIS, don't go to Syria. If you don't want to be killed by a Mexican... I can't help you,” she said. Wow. Coulter didn’t back down when pressed on the issue, and Pat had the audio on radio to prove it.
"He's a staunch defender of undocumented immigrants. And she's not. So you've set up a battle royale right there. And they got into this huge battle over everybody being an immigrant here," Pat said to set up the interview.
Watch a portion of the interview below:
JORGE: You said that Americans should fear immigrants more than ISIS.
JORGE: Most immigrants are not terrorists nor criminals. No one is biologically predisposed to commit a crime.
ANN: I have a little tip. If you don't want to be killed by ISIS, don't go to Syria. If you don't want to be killed by a Mexican, there's nothing I can tell you. Very easy to avoid being killed by ISIS: Don't fly to Syria.
JORGE: Are you really saying that -- we're talking about 40 million immigrants.
ANN: Exactly. I thought you were just disputing that.
JORGE: No, no. 40 million immigrants. I'm not talking about undocumented immigrants. Overall immigrants, legally here, and those who are not here.
ANN: I think close to 40 million with illegals.
JORGE: Okay. So do you think people are biologically predisposed to commit crimes?
ANN: No, I think there are cultures that are obviously deficient. And if they weren't deficient, you wouldn't be sitting in America interviewing me, I'd be sitting in Mexico.
ANN: You fled that culture because it is -- there are a lot of problems with that culture. Hopefully it can be changed. But we can change our culture with other nations without bringing all of their people here. When you bring the people here, you bring those cultures here. That includes honor killings. It includes uncles raping their nieces. It includes dumping litter all over.
JORGE: I read the whole book.
ANN: It includes not paying your taxes. It includes paying bribes to government officials. That isn't our culture. You can see the successful cultures of the world. They've been studied, ad infinitum. America is about -- it is the best in the world, and we are about to lose it. And everyone who lives here will lose that. And the people who are going to suffer the most are the weakest ones.
Later, Jorge tried to use the "America is a nation of immigrants" argument against Coulter, but she shot that down as well.
"The first people here back in the 1600s were not immigrants. They were settlers. They came to a society continent that had no country. They created this country. The Dutch, mostly the British, created America," Ann said.
"The other difference she doesn't mention to him, most of her ancestors came here legally. The vast majority of our ancestors came here legally. I don't have any problem at all with legal immigration. Come here from wherever you want legally. I welcome you. It would be helpful if you spoke our language, if you also meshed into our society and became a part of our culture and wanted to be an American. Because that's what all of our ancestors did," Pat added to the debate.