Glenn thought Carly Fiorina was for big government until this conversation happened

On radio Friday, Glenn declared Carly Fiorina the winner of Thursday's “second-tier” debate, calling her “wicked smart, really well put together and someone you could see in office.”

Joining him on air for an interview, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard took the opportunity to clarify her position on several issues, including one Glenn admitted he may have misjudged her on - big government.

Watch Fiona's comments and Glenn's reaction in the video below.

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it may contain errors.

GLENN: This audience is a little different than most audiences. They are -- they are very, very well read. They know what's going on. And they know what they believe. And what they don't believe in is giant progressive government. And there are progressives in both parties. It's not a liberal or conservative thing. Or a Democrat and Republican thing. It is a Constitution or this new idea of the progressives. And when I say new, I mean in the last hundred years. Where do you fall on that scale? Because I've seen some of -- you know, some of the things that you believe in, and you seem to be a little big government. Fair to say?

CARLY: Oh, my goodness. No. Not at all fair to say. Not at all fair to say. I'm sorry you feel that way. Let me try to clear that up for you and your listeners. Here's what happened. When big government gets bigger, only the big, the powerful, the wealthy, and the well connected can handle it. It's called crony capitalism. And you are right. Both Republicans and Democrats alike have created crony capitalism. Have furthered crony capitalism. It is what people who have been in the status quo, politics, all their lives do because that system, that status quo benefits them. The truth is, the only way you can level the playing field so that the small and the powerless can prosper is to reduce the power of government.

I started out as a secretary in a little nine-person real estate firm. My husband, Frank, started out driving a tow truck for a family-owned auto body shop. It's how most people start. And so when we have government crushing the potential of this nation -- and that's what we have. You know, you mentioned God. And I'm glad you did, and I know you're a man of great faith. And I'm a woman of faith. Jesus Christ has seen me through some very difficult times. But when I was a little girl, my mother said to me, what you are is God's gift to you. What you make of yourself is your gift to God.

This, I believe, is the fight we must have. I as a conservative believe every one of us is gifted by God. No one of us is any better than any other one of us. Every one of us has the capacity and the desire to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. This government is now crushing the potential of this nation and too many people in it. And progressives honestly believe, it's okay to crush people's potential because progressives believe, some of us are smarter than others. Some of us are better than others. So some of us are going to take others. The core of conservatism is not just the value of life, but the gift in every life. And the core of progressivism is nah, actually some of us know better than the rest of you. That is why government has to get cut down to size. Because it is crushing the potential of this nation. And crushing the nation of too many Americans.

GLENN: Well, I'm comfortable with that answer.

Carly, I'm sorry. You know, I was gone for a month. And I know you came out and met with Dana. And was on Dana's show. And did a fantastic job. But I hope we have a chance to actually sit down, the two of us with our cameras and really kind of go over some things. Because I think you are a very smart woman. And you obviously handle yourself very, very well. And we are looking for fresh faces. And I hope we have that opportunity to do that again.

CARLY: Well, Glenn, I would be delighted. I will back through Texas in the not-too-distant future. And I would truly, truly love to do that.

GLENN: Well, that's good. We'll schedule it.

CARLY: We'll make sure that happens.

GLENN: Thank you very much, Carly. And congratulations last night.

CARLY: Thank you, Glenn. God bless.

GLENN: God bless. Carly Fiorina.

Every time she's on, I like her.

PAT: She is strong every time, man. This is her third time in the last six months or so?

GLENN: Yeah. Every time she's on, I like her.

PAT: She's on. And I keep hearing, well, don't be fooled by Carly Fiorina, she's a liberal. Well, I'm looking through all of the issues here and where she stands on them, I can't find where she's a liberal.

GLENN: It's so weird because the last time she was on, I thought we had done some more research and we had seen some things that we were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, big government here. And so if somebody can point this out or if we can go back and look at the research for about three or four months ago on her -- because when I said that, I couldn't remember what it was.

STU: Yeah.

PAT: But we knew there was something.

GLENN: We knew there was something.

Yeah. And she is a California. We have to be clear. But so was Ronald Reagan. So was Ronald Reagan.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: The one thing you get from her every time is her competence.

PAT: She's solid.

STU: She's just all over it.

Most self-proclaimed Marxists know very little about Marxism. Some of them have all the buzzwords memorized. They talk about the exploits of labor. They talk about the slavery of capitalist society and the alienation caused by capital. They talk about the evils of power and domination.

But they don't actually believe what they say. Or else they wouldn't be such violent hypocrites. And we're not being dramatic when we say "violent."

For them, Marxism is a political tool that they use to degrade and annoy their political enemies.

They don't actually care about the working class.

Another important thing to remember about Marxists is that they talk about how they want to defend the working class, but they don't actually understand the working class. They definitely don't realize that the working class is composed mostly of so many of the people they hate. Because, here's the thing, they don't actually care about the working class. Or the middle class. They wouldn't have the slightest clue how to actually work, not the way we do. For them, work involves ranting about how work and labor are evil.

Ironically, if their communist utopia actually arrived, they would be the first ones against the wall. Because they have nothing to offer except dissent. They have no practical use and no real connection to reality.

Again ironically, they are the ultimate proof of the success of capitalism. The fact that they can freely call for its demise, in tweets that they send from their capitalistic iPhones, is proof that capitalism affords them tremendous luxuries.

Their specialty is complaining. They are fanatics of a religion that is endlessly cynical.

They sneer at Christianity for promising Heaven in exchange for good deeds on earth — which is a terrible description of Christianity, but it's what they actually believe — and at the same time they criticize Christianity for promising a utopia, they give their unconditional devotion to a religion that promises a utopia.

They are fanatics of a religion that is endlessly cynical.

They think capitalism has turned us into machines. Which is a bad interpretation of Marx's concept of the General Intellect, the idea that humans are the ones who create machines, so humans, not God, are the creators.

They think that the only way to achieve the perfect society is by radically changing and even destroying the current society. It's what they mean when they say things about the "status quo" and "hegemony" and the "established order." They believe that the system is broken and the way to fix it is to destroy, destroy, destroy.

Critical race theory actually takes it a step farther. It tells us that the racist system can never be changed. That racism is the original sin that white people can never overcome. Of course, critical race theorists suggest "alternative institutions," but these "alternative institutions" are basically the same as the ones we have now, only less effective and actually racist.

Marx's violent revolution never happened. Or at least it never succeeded. Marx's followers have had to take a different approach. And now, we are living through the Revolution of Constant Whining.

This post is part of a series on critical race theory. Read the full series here.

Americans are losing faith in our justice system and the idea that legal consequences are applied equally — even to powerful elites in office.

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to detail what he believes will come next with the Durham investigation, which hopefully will provide answers to the Obama FBI's alleged attempts to sabotage former President Donald Trump and his campaign years ago.

Rep. Nunes and Glenn assert that we know Trump did NOT collude with Russia, and that several members of the FBI possibly committed huge abuses of power. So, when will we see justice?

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The corporate media is doing everything it can to protect Dr. Anthony Fauci after Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) roasted him for allegedly lying to Congress about funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China.

During an extremely heated exchange at a Senate hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Paul challenged Dr. Fauci — who, as the director of the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, oversees research programs at the National Institute of Health — on whether the NIH funded dangerous gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Dr. Fauci denied the claims, but as Sen. Paul knows, there are documents that prove Dr. Fauci's NIH was funding gain-of-function research in the Wuhan biolab before COVID-19 broke out in China.

On "The Glenn Beck Program," Glenn and Producer Stu Burguiere presented the proof, because Dr. Fauci's shifting defenses don't change the truth.

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Critical race theory: A special brand of evil


Part of what makes it hard for us to challenge the left is that their beliefs are complicated. We don't mean complicated in a positive way. They aren't complicated the way love is complicated. They're complicated because there's no good explanation for them, no basis in reality.

The left cannot pull their heads out of the clouds. They are stuck on romantic ideas, abstract ideas, universal ideas. They talk in theories. They see the world through ideologies. They cannot divorce themselves from their own academic fixations. And — contrary to what they believe and how they act — it's not because leftists are smarter than the rest of us. And studies have repeatedly shown that leftists are the least happy people in the country. Marx was no different. The Communist Manifesto talks about how the rise of cities "rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life."

Studies have repeatedly shown that leftists are the least happy people in the country.

Instead of admitting that they're pathological hypocrites, they tell us that we're dumb and tell us to educate ourselves. Okay, so we educate ourselves; we return with a coherent argument. Then they say, "Well, you can't actually understand what you just said unless you understand the work of this other obscure Marxist writer. So educate yourselves more."

It's basically the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, the idea that when you point out a flaw in someone's argument, they say, "Well, that's a bad example."

After a while, it becomes obvious that there is no final destination for their bread-crumb trail. Everything they say is based on something that somebody else said, which is based on something somebody else said.

Take critical race theory. We're sure you've noticed by now that it is not evidence-based — at all. It is not, as academics say, a quantitative method. It doesn't use objective facts and data to arrive at conclusions. Probably because most of those conclusions don't have any basis in reality.

Critical race theory is based on feelings. These feelings are based on theories that are also based on feelings.

We wanted to trace the history of critical race theory back to the point where its special brand of evil began. What allowed it to become the toxic, racist monster that it is today?

Later, we'll tell you about some of the snobs who created critical theory, which laid the groundwork for CRT. But if you follow the bread-crumb trail from their ideas, you wind up with Marxism.

For years, the staff has devoted a lot of time to researching Marxism. We have read a lot of Marx and Marxist writing. It's part of our promise to you to be as informed as possible, so that you know where to go for answers; so that you know what to say when your back is up against the wall. What happens when we take the bread-crumb trail back farther, past Marxism? What is it based on?

This is the point where Marxism became Marxism and not just extra-angry socialism.

It's actually based on the work of one of the most important philosophers in human history, a 19th-century German philosopher named Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.

This is the point where Marxism became Marxism and not just extra-angry socialism. And, as you'll see in just a bit, if we look at Hegel's actual ideas, it's obvious that Marx completely misrepresented them in order to confirm his own fantasies.

So, in a way, that's where the bread-crumb trail ends: With Marx's misrepresentation of an incredibly important, incredibly useful philosophy, a philosophy that's actually pretty conservative.

This post is part of a series on critical race theory. Read the full series here.