Glenn thought Carly Fiorina was for big government until this conversation happened

On radio Friday, Glenn declared Carly Fiorina the winner of Thursday's “second-tier” debate, calling her “wicked smart, really well put together and someone you could see in office.”

Joining him on air for an interview, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard took the opportunity to clarify her position on several issues, including one Glenn admitted he may have misjudged her on - big government.

Watch Fiona's comments and Glenn's reaction in the video below.

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it may contain errors.

GLENN: This audience is a little different than most audiences. They are -- they are very, very well read. They know what's going on. And they know what they believe. And what they don't believe in is giant progressive government. And there are progressives in both parties. It's not a liberal or conservative thing. Or a Democrat and Republican thing. It is a Constitution or this new idea of the progressives. And when I say new, I mean in the last hundred years. Where do you fall on that scale? Because I've seen some of -- you know, some of the things that you believe in, and you seem to be a little big government. Fair to say?

CARLY: Oh, my goodness. No. Not at all fair to say. Not at all fair to say. I'm sorry you feel that way. Let me try to clear that up for you and your listeners. Here's what happened. When big government gets bigger, only the big, the powerful, the wealthy, and the well connected can handle it. It's called crony capitalism. And you are right. Both Republicans and Democrats alike have created crony capitalism. Have furthered crony capitalism. It is what people who have been in the status quo, politics, all their lives do because that system, that status quo benefits them. The truth is, the only way you can level the playing field so that the small and the powerless can prosper is to reduce the power of government.

I started out as a secretary in a little nine-person real estate firm. My husband, Frank, started out driving a tow truck for a family-owned auto body shop. It's how most people start. And so when we have government crushing the potential of this nation -- and that's what we have. You know, you mentioned God. And I'm glad you did, and I know you're a man of great faith. And I'm a woman of faith. Jesus Christ has seen me through some very difficult times. But when I was a little girl, my mother said to me, what you are is God's gift to you. What you make of yourself is your gift to God.

This, I believe, is the fight we must have. I as a conservative believe every one of us is gifted by God. No one of us is any better than any other one of us. Every one of us has the capacity and the desire to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. This government is now crushing the potential of this nation and too many people in it. And progressives honestly believe, it's okay to crush people's potential because progressives believe, some of us are smarter than others. Some of us are better than others. So some of us are going to take others. The core of conservatism is not just the value of life, but the gift in every life. And the core of progressivism is nah, actually some of us know better than the rest of you. That is why government has to get cut down to size. Because it is crushing the potential of this nation. And crushing the nation of too many Americans.

GLENN: Well, I'm comfortable with that answer.

Carly, I'm sorry. You know, I was gone for a month. And I know you came out and met with Dana. And was on Dana's show. And did a fantastic job. But I hope we have a chance to actually sit down, the two of us with our cameras and really kind of go over some things. Because I think you are a very smart woman. And you obviously handle yourself very, very well. And we are looking for fresh faces. And I hope we have that opportunity to do that again.

CARLY: Well, Glenn, I would be delighted. I will back through Texas in the not-too-distant future. And I would truly, truly love to do that.

GLENN: Well, that's good. We'll schedule it.

CARLY: We'll make sure that happens.

GLENN: Thank you very much, Carly. And congratulations last night.

CARLY: Thank you, Glenn. God bless.

GLENN: God bless. Carly Fiorina.

Every time she's on, I like her.

PAT: She is strong every time, man. This is her third time in the last six months or so?

GLENN: Yeah. Every time she's on, I like her.

PAT: She's on. And I keep hearing, well, don't be fooled by Carly Fiorina, she's a liberal. Well, I'm looking through all of the issues here and where she stands on them, I can't find where she's a liberal.

GLENN: It's so weird because the last time she was on, I thought we had done some more research and we had seen some things that we were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, big government here. And so if somebody can point this out or if we can go back and look at the research for about three or four months ago on her -- because when I said that, I couldn't remember what it was.

STU: Yeah.

PAT: But we knew there was something.

GLENN: We knew there was something.

Yeah. And she is a California. We have to be clear. But so was Ronald Reagan. So was Ronald Reagan.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: The one thing you get from her every time is her competence.

PAT: She's solid.

STU: She's just all over it.

Acclaimed environmentalist and author of "Apocalypse Never" Michael Shellenberger joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Wednesday to warn us about the true goals and effects of climate alarmism: It's become a "secular religion" that lowers standards of living in developed countries, holds developing countries back, and has environmental progress "exactly wrong."

Michael is a Time "Hero of the Environment," Green Book Award winner, and the founder and president of Environmental Progress. He has been called a "environmental guru," "climate guru," "North America's leading public intellectual on clean energy," and "high priest" of the environmental humanist movement for his writings and TED talks, which have been viewed more than 5 million times. But when Michael penned a stunning article in Forbes saying, "On Behalf of Environmentalists, I Apologize for the Climate Scare", the article was pulled just a few hours later. (Read more here.)

On the show, Micheal talked about how environmental alarmism has overtaken scientific fact, leading to a number of unfortunate consequences. He said one of the problems is that rich nations are blocking poor nations from being able to industrialize. Instead, they are seeking to make poverty sustainable, rather than to make poverty history.

"As a cultural anthropologist, I've been traveling to poorer countries and interviewing small farmers for over 30 years. And, obviously there are a lot of causes why countries are poor, but there's no reason we should be helping them to stay poor," Michael said. "A few years ago, there was a movement to make poverty history ... [but] it got taken over by the climate alarmist movement, which has been focused on depriving poor countries, not just of fossil fuels they need to develop, but also the large hydroelectric dams."

He offered the example of the Congo, one of the poorest countries in the world. The Congo has been denied the resources needed to build large hydroelectric dams, which are absolutely essential to pull people out of poverty. And one of the main groups preventing poor countries from the gaining financing they need to to build dams is based in Berkeley, California — a city that gets its electricity from hydroelectric dams.

"It's just unconscionable ... there are major groups, including the Sierra Club, that support efforts to deprive poor countries of energy. And, honestly, they've taken over the World Bank [which] used to fund the basics of development: roads, electricity, sewage systems, flood control, dams," Micheal said.

"Environmentalism, apocalyptic environmentalism in particular, has become the dominant religion of supposedly secular people in the West. So, you know, it's people at the United Nations. It's people that are in very powerful positions who are trying to impose 'nature's order' on societies," he continued. "And, of course, the problem is that nobody can figure out what nature is, and what it's not. That's not a particular good basis for organizing your economy."

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Dr. Voddie Baucham, Dean of Theology at African Christian University in Lusaka, Zambia, joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to explain why he agrees with Vice President Mike Pence's refusal to say the phrase "Black Lives Matter."

Baucham, who recently drew national attention when his sermon titled "Ethnic Gnosticism" resurfaced online, said the phrase has been trademarked by a dangerous, violent, Marxist movement that doesn't care about black lives except to use them as political pawns.

"We have to separate this movement from the issues," Baucham warned. "I know that [Black Lives Matter] is a phrase that is part of an organization. It is a trademark phrase. And it's a phrase designed to use black people.

"That phrase dehumanizes black people, because it makes them pawns in a game that has nothing whatsoever to do with black people and their dignity. And has everything to do with a divisive agenda that is bigger than black people. That's why I'm not going to use that phrase, because I love black people. I love being black."

Baucham warned that Black Lives Matter -- a radical Marxist movement -- is using black people and communities to push a dangerous and divisive narrative. He encouraged Americans to educate themselves on the organization's agenda and belief statement.

"This movement is dangerous. This movement is vicious. And this movement uses black people," he emphasized. "And so if I'm really concerned about issues in the black community -- and I am -- then I have to refuse, and I have to repudiate that organization. Because they stand against that for which I am advocating."

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On last week's Wednesday night special, Glenn Beck revealed where the Black Lives Matter organization really gets its funding, and the dark money trail leading to a cast of familiar characters. Shortly after the program aired, one of BLM's fiscal sponsors, Thousand Currents, took down its board of directors page, which featured one of these shady characters:

Ex-Marxist professor and author of "Beyond Woke," Michael Rectenwald, joined Glenn Beck on the TV show to fill us in on the suspicious change he discovered on the Thousand Currents webpage and the Communist terrorists who is now helping run the organization. (Fortunately, the internet is forever, so it is still possible to view the board of directors page by looking at a web archive from the WayBack Machine.)

Rectenwald revealed the shocking life history of Thousand Currents' vice chair of the board, Susan Rosenberg, who spent 16 years in federal prison for her part in a series of increasingly violent acts of terrorism, including bombing the U.S. Capitol building, bombing an FBI building, and targeting police for assassination.

"Their whole campaign was one of unbelievably vicious, murderous cop killings, assassinations, and bombings," explained Rectenwald of Rosenberg's terror group known as the May 19th Communist Organization or M19.

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