At a press conference Tuesday, Donald Trump did something that Glenn called "absolutely unbelievable" and "masterfully done" on radio Wednesday. While he hasn't had very many good to say about Trump in the past, Glenn was quick to acknowledge Trumps boldness when he saw it.
"He does not flinch. He does not look nervous," Glenn said.
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Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.
GLENN: This is why people like Donald Trump.
Yesterday, in a press conference, I think you're seeing the beginning of top-down, bottom-up, and inside-out. The bottom is crying out from somebody at the top just to take control and say, enough is enough!
Yesterday at a press conference with Donald Trump, he had Jorge Ramos from Univision who everybody worships now as a god. Jorge Ramos. You're going to be on with Jorge Ramos. Oh, my goodness. He asks really tough questions. He's going to really go after you. You don't mess with Jorge Ramos. You don't do it. So Jorge Ramos just stood up from Univision and interrupted the press conference. And Donald Trump wouldn't have anything to do with it. I want you to listen to the whole exchange, and we'll analyze as we go on. But this is from start to finish, unbelievably satisfying and masterfully done by Donald Trump. Listen to this.
DONALD: Okay. Who is next? Yeah. Please. Excuse me. Sit down. You weren't called. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Go ahead.
JORGE: I have the right to --
DONALD: No, you don't. You haven't been called. Go back to Univision. Go ahead. Go ahead.
PAT: Jeez.
JORGE: You can't deport 11 million people. You cannot deport 11 million people.
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GLENN: Now he looks off to the side, and he has him escorted offstage. He looks for security, and they escort him out of the room.
PAT: Yeah. He's telling Trump he has the right to ask -- no, you don't. Not in the middle of my press conference here. I'm calling on people that will stand up and then ask me the question.
GLENN: We are all looking for someone to tell the press that they're not gods. We're all looking for somebody to tell the press, shut the hell up. They play by their own rules. They think they can do whatever they want. This is not only Jorge Ramos. But this is also reflective of Occupy Wall Street. Reflective of Black Lives Matter. Somebody is waiting -- top-down, bottom-up, inside-out. Somebody is waiting for somebody to take control of the situation. And we are so hungry for it. And so what Trump has just done is he's set himself up for the rest of the campaign, I'm not going to take any crap. No crap from anybody. You're going to play by my rules. Which is the sign of a leader. That's what a leader does. He takes control of the room, otherwise you have chaos. And he does it fearlessly, which is something the United States of America and all of us that live here -- well, and maybe not Jorge -- all of us want somebody just to say, look, these are the rules, and you're going to live by these rules.
There are no rules. For the last eight years, we haven't had any decorum. There are no rules. Anybody can get away with anything. And nobody says anything. So when you're watching this or listening to this, you're immediately going, oh, thank God. How many times have you wanted to say to the press, just shut up and sit down? And that's exactly what he did. Top-down, bottom-up, inside-out. This is the beginning of it.
STU: He also on this one -- is Ramos even fairly considered the press? He's just an immigration activist. That's all he is. The guy is an immigration activist.
PAT: Yeah, he is.
STU: It's ridiculous at this point to call him a journalist or a member of the press.
PAT: A journalist is tell him, you can't deport these people. Well, who are you?
STU: That's your opinion. And it might be right. But as a journalist, you're not supposed to be up there telling a candidate what he can and cannot accomplish. That's not your role.
GLENN: Correct. So he goes on. He kicks him out.
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DONALD: Sit down, please. You weren't called.
JORGE: I'm a reporter, and I have --
DONALD: Go.
GLENN: Now he just told his security, go.
PAT: Yeah.
GLENN: Now, stop. How many times have you seen this? And people have chanted, USA, USA, both with the Republicans and the Democrats. And they tried to cover this ugly exchange.
Trump doesn't even flinch. There's nobody in there because it's all press -- there's nobody in there to cover this exchange. They're just covering it with their cameras. But he doesn't even need anybody. He does not flinch. He does not look nervous. He just says, take him out. Enough. Enough. Really masterfully done.
PAT: That's where his confidence comes in handy.
GLENN: Yes.
VOICE: That's Jorge Ramos of Univision. He's being escorted out of the room. He was asking a question, and Donald Trump says I didn't call him. That's why he was being removed. Jorge Ramos refused to back down. Let's listen there.
PAT: Jorge Ramos refused to back down?
STU: Press helping their own on that one a little bit.
PAT: Yeah, a little bit.
So then later on, they allow him back in.
GLENN: No, you didn't play the rest of it. You don't have the rest of that clip. In the rest of that clip, Donald Trump is asked something about Jorge and he says -- and this is really critical that you pay attention to these things. He said, I don't even know who that guy was. I don't even know who he was. What? I have no problem with him. I don't even know who he was. Excuse me, Mr. Trump. He said go back to Univision. You know exactly who he was. Okay?
JEFFY: Yes. Yes.
GLENN: This is really important that you understand that Donald Trump is very slippery. Everybody -- everybody who is watching this. Who wants control of the border and wants -- would like to slap the press across the face for the last eight years. We're all celebrating. But don't dismiss the bread crumb of the presidential candidate being slippery on the truth, to put it kindly. I don't even know who he was. You said go back to Univision.
STU: He just assumed he knew his exact place of employment.
GLENN: You knew exactly who he was.
PAT: Yeah, tough to get around that.
GLENN: Now, when he comes back -- Trump let him in. Because he said, I don't care if he comes back in. I don't even know who he was. But you don't care if he comes back in. He just will not disrupt the press conference. Which I thought was great. So they do eventually let him back in. And he calls on Jorge Ramos.
DONALD: Good. Absolutely. Good. Absolutely. Good to have you back. Okay.
JORGE: So here's the phone number (inaudible) -- it's full of empty promises.
You cannot deport 11 million. You cannot unite citizenship to the children in this country. You cannot build on --
DONALD: Why do you say that?
PAT: Listen to this guy. Again, an activist.
GLENN: He's saying you can't deport people.
PAT: You can't deny citizenship.
GLENN: Right. Because the children, they're born here. You can't deny citizenship.
PAT: Amazing.
DONALD: Well, a lot of people -- no, no. Excuse me. A lot of people -- no, no. But a lot of people think that's not right. That an active Congress can do it. Now, it's possibly going to have to be tested in courts. But a lot of people think that if you come and you're on the other side of the border -- I'm not talking about Mexico. Somebody on the other side of the border. A woman who is getting ready to have a baby. She crosses the border for one day. Has the baby. All of a sudden, for the next 80 years, hopefully longer, but for the next 80 years, we have to take care of the people. No, no, I don't think so. Excuse me. Some of the greatest legal scholars, and I know some of the television scholars agree with you, but some of the great legal scholars agree that that's not true. That if you come across -- excuse me. Yeah, just one second.
PAT: Also, if it is true, it shouldn't be, and we're going to change that. Right?
GLENN: Well, he's going to say that.
PAT: That's nuts. What other country in the world does that?
GLENN: That's what he's about to say.
DONALD: No, no, I'm answering. If you come across for one day -- one day and you have a baby, now the baby is going to be an American citizen. There are great -- excuse me. There are great legal scholars at the top that say that's absolutely wrong. It's going to be tested. Okay?
GLENN: Stop. Stop. Stop. Now, brilliant. Just brilliant. The way he's handled that. He didn't seem like a hater.
STU: Yeah, he actually didn't seem as frustrated as I am as the fact that Ramos is constantly talking the entire time. He says excuse me and keeps going. He handles this really well.
GLENN: He handles it really well. For the people who feel like Pat who crawl out of their skin every time somebody says the Constitution says -- he says, in no uncertain terms, it's going to be tested. Cheers for Donald Trump. Fine. We're going to find out once and for all. We're going to test it. Fantastic. Where everybody else is dancing around this issue going back and forth and saying, well, our legal scholars say this. Legal scholars -- he's just saying, I'm going to test it.
PAT: And they would have folded under the pressure from Jorge Ramos.
GLENN: All of them would have. All of them would have.
PAT: Yeah.
GLENN: Because they would have known exactly what the press was saying with Wolf Blitzer. And he refused to back down. He doesn't care. And I believe one of the reasons he doesn't care is because he is a strong personality.
Most of these people do not have the television experience that Donald Trump has. And when I say television experience. I don't mean that he's been on television a lot. I mean, that he's been on television a lot, being exactly who he is. And he knows, I can connect with the American people. This is what Reagan had. When you want to say that Donald Trump is the next Reagan, the only way that I believe you can compare the two is Ronald Reagan knew, I don't have to deal with you. I'll go right, straight to the American people. And I'll tell the American people what I think, and they will hear me over all of your spin. Okay? That's the only thing.
Donald Trump has that experience on television.
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: And he has the experience of knowing, he's got an audience. And he knows he can connect with them. And so he's absolutely unafraid of Wolf Blitzer. He knows Wolf Blitzer and everybody else will get on and say, well, he was this and that. He doesn't care. Because he trusts the American people and his ability to go around the press. He's bigger than the press.
STU: Yeah. Kind of an odd extension of something you've talked about for a long time. Which is know your principles. And the reason why you always talked about knowing your principle is because when you have a situation that would make you uncomfortable or rattle you, you have a principle to go to. You know something that's concrete, that will help you through a situation. Donald Trump doesn't have principle when it relates to policy. But what he does have, he has a principle that he knows he's awesome. He's the guy. So he can do whatever he wants, and he'll always be right. That's his principle. He doesn't have those moments of self-questioning in these things because he's so sure he's so great.
GLENN: Yeah. He'll pull the trigger every time.
STU: Yeah. And it does help him in these situations.
GLENN: It sure does. It might hurt him in other situations --
STU: Yes.
GLENN: But it helps him. And it is always -- what drives me nuts. Do you notice his experts? What did he say about his experts, the experts that agree with him?
PAT: They're the top ones.
GLENN: They're the top. Everything Donald Trump is always the top. The best. The quintessential whatever. The most luxurious. So he always -- is always thinking that whatever is coming his way, whatever he has been involved in, that's the best. This is another bread crumb you should follow. No one can ever challenge him because he knows.
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Because he's the best. He only accepts the best. So anybody who disagrees with him, they are second rate.
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