It's always a good time when Glenn and his friend Bill O'Reilly get together. O'Reilly called into Glenn's radio program Monday morning to announce his newest book in his series, called Killing Reagan.
Glenn's first question was obviously about the title, since Reagan wasn't killed, was he?
"Here's the most interesting part of the book," O'Reilly said. "Ronald Reagan gets elected and shortly after is shot and is almost killed. He comes out in a robust way. We all remember. His little bathrobe, standing, making jokes, and everybody breathes a sigh of relief. The president is going to be okay. But he wasn't okay."
O'Reilly went on to explain the detrimental effects, both mental and physical, that the near-killing had on the rest of Reagan's presidency, and how at one point he came extremely close to being removed from office.
"We found out that he was within a whisper of being removed from the presidency and nobody knows that, and the story is so dramatic. And then after he passed the test that they gave him, he made a miraculous comeback mentally because of the Soviet Union," O'Reilly said. "I think is fascinating for anyone who cares about Ronald Reagan."
"There's a lot of great stuff in the book. Including the fact - did you guys know that Ronald Reagan tried to join the Communist Party? He was rejected by the Communist Party," Glenn said.
SPOILER ALERT: "At the end of this one, he doesn't die," Glenn said.
Listen or read the transcript below.
Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.
GLENN: It's always good to have our good friend on our program. Mr. Bill O'Reilly on the show with us. He has a brand-new book called Killing Reagan, which Reagan wasn't killed, but really why be picky on things like that?
PAT: That was a detail. What?
GLENN: Bill, welcome to the program, how are you? Bill, are you there? I'm not hearing Bill O'Reilly.
STU: Oh, my gosh.
PAT: Oh, no.
PAT: You pissed him off.
GLENN: It's Donald Trump.
PAT: He's angry. Yeah.
GLENN: Guys, in New York, can you tell me what's happening with Bill O'Reilly?
PAT: Hmm. If he's on, we're not hearing him. So that's probably a problem.
GLENN: Okay. Well, tell us when you can get -- tell us when you can get Bill O'Reilly.
STU: I guess this means Reagan is alive.
GLENN: Do you think that this was John Hinckley saying, "Bill, I don't appreciate it. I'm going to take you down too. I'm going to silence your voice."
STU: Because you say that Reagan wasn't killed, but he did die.
PAT: Yes. But he died of something else.
GLENN: Natural causes.
STU: It was a little later.
GLENN: It's actually a very fascinating book.
STU: I will say, this is the most interested I am in the entire series.
PAT: Oh, really?
STU: Yeah, that's fascinating to me.
GLENN: They've been good books.
PAT: Oh, they've all been really good.
STU: I didn't say that they weren't good.
GLENN: Yes, you did. That's what I heard. That's what Pat heard. That's what America heard.
PAT: I heard it.
STU: I can't deal with your incompetent hearing abilities. What I said was I thought --
PAT: You tell Bill he was incompetent.
GLENN: That's what I heard.
PAT: That's what I heard.
STU: I'm talking to America. You are here. Bill is not.
GLENN: Bill is always --
PAT: Wow. You said this is a problem interview.
STU: That's not what I said.
PAT: Holy cow.
GLENN: Holy cow. Bill, are you there? Okay. Well, we're going to have to reschedule. Phones are broken, apparently. We don't have phones that work.
PAT: Why would you have that?
GLENN: Don't worry. This is only a multi -- you know, tens of millions of dollar show. Why would we have a phone that works?
PAT: Why would you have that?
STU: I don't know. I can't answer that question. If I do, you'll just twist my answer, so I won't attempt it.
PAT: So you don't want to talk to Bill?
GLENN: I heard he wanted to twist the knife.
STU: I didn't say that word.
GLENN: It's amazing. It is absolutely amazing.
JEFFY: Write your own book, Killing O'Reilly. Okay.
STU: Wasn't there a left-winger who did say that actually?
PAT: Yeah, there was. I'm trying to think who it was and can't remember right now.
GLENN: Can we play the football player -- let's play the football player. The audio. Can we play the audio --
GLENN: Can't play the audio. This is a story out of California that is just infuriating. There is a football player at a high school that is there at a high school, and he sees this other kid just wailing -- just wailing on this blind kid. Now, the blind kid can't even defend himself, he's blind. So he's not seeing the punches coming his way.
PAT: This is crazy.
GLENN: I mean, it's really crazy. It's really crazy. So everybody is standing around doing nothing.
PAT: Filming it.
GLENN: Yeah, doing nothing. And finally this high school football player comes up and he grabs the guy who is wailing on him.
PAT: I think he drilled him. I think he hit him in the head, which he deserved.
GLENN: Did he hit him in the head? I just saw him throw him down.
PAT: I think he did. I think he did.
GLENN: Either way, that's fine. He pulls him back, Pat says hits him on the head, and throws him down to the ground.
Well, he then goes right over to the blind kid and is like, "Are you okay? Are you all right? Here." And he helps him get out of there. Everyone runs around the bully and is helping the bully up.
PAT: Because he got blasted by the football player. And the football player is yelling, "What are you doing? That's a blind kid you're hitting. What are you doing?" In more colorful language than that.
GLENN: Now, who gets expelled?
PAT: The football player.
GLENN: The football player does. This is insane. Absolutely insane. What's wrong with us?
PAT: Well, Glenn, they have a zero tolerance --
GLENN: Yeah, I have a zero tolerance -- zero tolerance for common sense.
PAT: Yeah, that's what all of those policies --
GLENN: We'll get back into that here in a second. You have Bill back on?
STU: In theory, yes.
GLENN: How are you doing, buddy?
BILL: Good. I'm glad you guys have telephones finally. Telegraphs.
PAT: Thought we'd join the last century.
BILL: Working phones is really getting tough to do, but I'm glad you have a phone now.
GLENN: Yeah, I know. How are things, Bill?
BILL: Busy. Just like you, you know, trying to change the world.
GLENN: Yeah. So Bill, I have to ask you. We're going to get to your book in just a second. I have to ask you, just because it will be fun to hear the answer. I hear Donald Trump is beating your butt and is taking you out to the woodshed every night.
BILL: How exactly is he doing that, Beck?
GLENN: Well, because he has said that he's not going to do you show anymore. And then you immediately countered with, "Oh, no, no. I don't want you on the show."
BILL: No, I didn't say anything to anybody. And he got into kind of a fight with Fox News hierarchy. It didn't have anything to do with me.
GLENN: Well, that's not the story that we heard in the papers. They were saying that -- I want you to know I believe that you --
BILL: Whoa, whoa, in the papers?
GLENN: I believe that you were the one who said, "I'm not going to put up with this nonsense and have you on the show anymore." But there are a lot of people that believe that Donald Trump came out and said that he doesn't want to put up with your nonsense. Which was it?
BILL: Okay. Number one, you're believing the papers. Is that what you're telling me?
GLENN: I'm just saying, Bill. That's just what people are talking about.
BILL: Okay. Number one, I don't have any beef against Trump. Number two, I didn't say anything about Trump to anybody. Number three, he ran into a problem with the Fox News hierarchy because he was bashing people like Krauthammer and Hume and Will, and those -- he didn't like them because they didn't approve of him. So I think that's the genesis of it. But it didn't have anything to do with me directly?
GLENN: Do you know him, Bill, well?
BILL: Yes, I know Trump well.
GLENN: Is his temperament -- can he be president of the United States with that temperament?
BILL: You know, he doesn't like to be criticized. And if you're president, you're criticized every second on the second.
GLENN: Right. Right. I mean, I don't like being criticized. You don't like being criticized. But it comes with the gig.
BILL: Yeah. And I don't know if he's accepted that reality. And I think that's the problem with him. And I think that's why his numbers are going down. And his poll numbers are going down because, if you're going to run for president, you have to be able to overlook stupid stuff.
BILL: Now, if he is attacked unfairly, then there's no -- I have no problem with him fighting back. But certainly on my program, he's gotten a fair shot. And we bring on people who like him and don't like him. That's what we do on The O'Reilly Factor. All sides are heard.
GLENN: Go ahead.
BILL: He doesn't like to hear people say that they don't approve of him, and that's the problem.
GLENN: Yeah, he doesn't like me too much. So I cried myself to sleep last night and I moved on.
BILL: Well, who does? Let's be honest. Who likes you? No one.
GLENN: I know. So my wife watched your show last week or the week before --
BILL: Not you. But your wife?
GLENN: No, it's more of a girl show.
BILL: Yeah, it's like The View.
GLENN: Yeah, it's like The View. And she said she had seen Carly Fiorina on and said that you were quite complimentary of her. Which makes me question her immediately. And said that she really held her ground with you. I'm doing a sitdown with her for today for a couple of hours. And interested to hear your -- your thoughts now after the interview with her. Is she the real deal?
BILL: Well, look, I hit her with some real haymakers about her tenure in the private sector --
GLENN: She handled it well.
BILL: -- at Hewlett-Packard. About how she reacted to various criticisms of her. Some policy situations. And she didn't -- she wasn't in a snit or anything like that. She answered the questions in a very logical manner.
GLENN: Like an adult?
BILL: And I complimented her on that.
GLENN: You don't have to tell me who, but do you see the next president yet?
BILL: You know, I don't see the next president yet. I think the Republican field is narrowing quickly. Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush, and Rubio look the -- look to be the only candidates right now that have a chance. Although, John Kasich is doing something very interesting. He's only doing New Hampshire. And if he does well there, he thinks he can break out fast into the other states.
GLENN: Yeah, he lives in a fantasy world.
BILL: He had a really good record in Ohio.
GLENN: I didn't know they legalized drugs in Ohio because he must be smoking some --
BILL: No, they haven't.
GLENN: -- if he thinks -- oh, really? Well, then we should have the state police stop by his house because --
BILL: Do you not like him?
GLENN: No, come on. Come on, Bill, for the leave of Pete, John Kasich?
PAT: Come on.
GLENN: No, no, I don't like him.
BILL: He didn't a great job in Ohio, boy.
GLENN: Oh, that is fantastic.
BILL: Did you look at what he did there? Turning that economy around.
GLENN: Love him. Love everything about his little -- bless his little progressive heart. I just love him.
BILL: No, come on. Look, just look at the state when he got there, and look at the state now. Economically, the guy did a great job. Go ahead.
GLENN: All right. I'm less interested in your book now.
BILL: I'll throw some Muslims in it.
GLENN: How come you don't have that? Killing ISIS, something like that.
BILL: Right. You know, if I had known you were writing that Muslim book, I would have put Muslims in the Reagan book.
GLENN: All right. So tell me the most interesting thing in the book. Because actually, I haven't read it. But I've thumbed through it.
BILL: Well, you should read it or have someone read it to you. You have a lot of servants.
GLENN: I would read it. If it was written by anyone else, I would have read it three times by now.
BILL: No, you wouldn't, Beck. No, you wouldn't. Here's the most interesting part of the book. Ronald Reagan gets elected and shortly after is shot and is almost killed. He comes out in a robust way. We all remember. His little bathrobe, standing, making jokes, and everybody breathes a sigh of relief. The president is going to be okay. But he wasn't okay. And the White House was able to keep that from the press and able to keep that from the people. He had his good days and his bad days. And we were taking our research from the people who loved Reagan, not from the snipers on the left. Okay? But the people who worked for him for a long time. People who admired him. On his bad days, he would even come down to the Oval Office and watch soap operas on TV. And on his good days, he was brilliant. But there came a point in the second term where his main advisers, Baker was the chief of staff, if you remember, was so concerned about him, that they had a meeting in the Oval Office. And he came into the meeting. And he didn't know that he was being watched, and if he had not performed well, they were going to try to remove him under the Constitution. And vice president Bush would have taken over the presidency.
PAT: But this had nothing to do with --
GLENN: This had nothing to do with the shooting?
BILL: No, it did. Because the shooting changed his physiology and his psychology. You're shot at that level and you almost die, you get that kind of trauma, you're never the same. Never the same. And because of his age, he -- his recovery time while it seemed on the surface was miraculous, it really wasn't. So that he would be in and he would be out. But I'll tell you why, when we were researching this and we found out that he was within a whisper of being removed from the presidency and nobody knows that, and the story is so dramatic, and then after he passed the test that they gave him, he made a miraculous comeback mentally because of the Soviet Union. And we go through that. And it's all weaved together. But the book I think is fascinating for anyone who cares about Ronald Reagan.
GLENN: I will tell you this, Bill, that I actually do find it fascinating. There's a lot of great stuff in the book. Including the fact -- did you guys know that Ronald Reagan tried to join the Communist Party? He was rejected by the Communist Party. They thought he was a lightweight. It's a fascinating read. Bill, before we go -- I'm sorry to cut this short because of the phone thing. But real quick, your thoughts on the pope. You're a Catholic.
BILL: Yes. I like the pope. I think I understand what he's trying to do. The churches are in trouble. He wants to get more people interested in the church so he takes a holistic point of view that, you know, "Look, we are accepting of sinners. Everyone is welcome. Everyone can come back." At the same time, his job on earth is to administer to the poor. And I don't really think he understands the best way to do that because he was raised in the Argentine economic system which is corrupt. However, overall, the pope is a good man. I think he did the Catholic church a lot of good. Christianity a lot of good.
GLENN: Were you at all disappointed that he did not take on the abortion cause in front of Congress or that he -- he lectured about American Catholic communists or the fact that on Saturday at the United Nations, we're talking about doing a gigantic global program that is a power grab? Are you disappointed in any of those things?
BILL: Well, I think the abortion thing he believes is polarizing, and that if he had gotten into it specifically, he would have lost some ears. Then he made a calculated decision. There's no doubt that the pope and the Catholic church are anti-abortion. And they always will be. And I think he made a calculation. Look, I'll avoid confrontation. And I'll be inclusive as I can. I think that I would have played it differently had I been him.
BILL: Nobody is perfect.
GLENN: Hang on, that's news. Bill O'Reilly would have gone for the confrontation.
Bill, God bless you, thank you so much. Keep up the good work.
BILL: All right. Thanks for having me here.
GLENN: All right. Buh-bye. The name of the book is Killing Reagan. Bill O'Reilly. The next in the series. I'll give you a hint, at the end of this one, he doesn't die.
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