'We're splitting ourselves' - Glenn opens up honest conversation about racism

November 05, 2015

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Lawrence Jones, a recognizable member of TheBlaze TV network, joined Glenn's program Wednesday evening along with several of his friends for an open conversation about racism in America.

A former Obama supporter who once bought into the idea all Republicans were racist, Lawrence shared the story of what changed his heart.

Watch the clip below.

Later in the program, Glenn dove into a very honest dialogue about racism with Lawrence and a few of his friends, who happened to disagree with him about certain black-lives-matter vs all-lives-matter issues.

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Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

GLENN: What I really try to want to get to, and Lawrence, you said this the other day, that there are some things that people can do to each other that would calm the seas a bit.

LAWRENCE: I was talking about I’m not saying that all white people should feel guilty. I’m not talking about slavery, I’m talking about the civil rights movement. But I think it would help if some black people could see some white people come to them and say look, my ancestors may have or may not have participated in that, but I’m sorry. I’m sorry. What happened was screwed up.

GLENN: Does that make a difference to you?

BRITTNEY: You know, I think it would make a difference because a lot of times you just try and gauge the situation. If I can be honest, I try and gauge the situation with a white person if they’re going to treat me right or if they’re going to treat me with respect or if they’re going to be disrespectful. I think it’s a big culture barrier between all of us.

GLENN: Because that’s really risky for you to say, can I be really risky back?

BRITTNEY: Yes, sir.

GLENN: I gauge, and I didn’t used to do this until the last five, eight years. I now gauge in a conversation with a black person, are you hostile? Are you going to try to trap me? Are you going to immediately assume I’m a racist, and so you’re trying to trap me into something? Do you know what I mean? Does that make sense?

BRITTNEY: Trap you into?

GLENN: Trap me into, take something that I say, instead of—I just said black. What do you mean, black? Why isn’t it African-American? You know what I mean?

BRITTNEY: That makes sense.

GLENN: So we’re at the situation to where we’re not really talking to each other because you’re gauging me, I’m gauging you, and we’re wasting time.

LAWRENCE: That’s part of the problem. It’s like everybody, you see it on news network every single day. There needs to be a conversation, but in order for a conversation to take place, the conversation needs to be unfiltered, and people to be able to lay out their heart, both white and black.

BRITTNEY: I agree.

SHANE: The conversation also needs to be fostered by some genuine desire for earnest communication. Right now we’re in the situation where—

GLENN: Everybody’s trying to win.

SHANE: Well, yeah, that’s right. This isn’t a competition, and this isn’t a sensationalistic news media issue. This is a human dignity issue, and having conversations like this like we had in the green room, that’s what’s going to effect change.

LAWRENCE: But there’s some people on both sides that are opposed to that. I posted on my Facebook, Glenn, the other day, that some of my friends are part of black lives matter and they’re going to be coming on the show. Some of the hate that I got was how could you be friends with them? Because I love them. I trust them more than I trust you because they have my back. I know at the end of the day we disagree politically, but I know that if I’m in need, they’re going to make sure I have food, a roof over my head.

GLENN: We never used to split ourselves. I’m older than all of you guys, but we didn’t split ourselves the way we’re splitting ourselves now. When push came to shove, we were still all Americans.

POLL: Should Trump stop producing pennies?

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On Sunday, February 9th, President Trump ordered the U.S. Mint to halt the production of pennies. It costs the mint three cents to produce every penny, which Trump deemed wasteful. However, critics argue that axing the pennies will be compensated by ramping up nickel production, which costs 13 cents per coin.

In other news, President Trump promised on Truth Social that he would be reversing a Biden-era policy that mandated the use of paper straws throughout the federal government. From potentially slashing entire agencies to saying farewell to pennies and paper straws, Trump is hounding after wasteful spending of taxpayer dollars.

But what do you think? Was Trump right to put an end to pennies? And should plastic straws make a comeback? Let us know in the poll below:

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Was this the most PATRIOTIC Super Bowl yet?

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The 2025 Super Bowl demonstrated Trump’s vision of a new America.

On Sunday, February 9th, the Philadelphia Eagles defeated the Kansas City Chiefs in the biggest sporting event of the year. But this wasn't just a victory for Eagles fans. For those watching, it became apparent that American culture has changed, the zeitgeist has shifted, and America has become cool again. While remnants of woke culture lingered, they felt out of step next to the parade of American Flags and patriotic messaging that dominated the national event. The message was clear: America is back.

Everybody knows that the commercials are the best part of any Super Bowl, and last night's game was no exception. As Glenn has pointed out, while some of the ads still carried woke messages (like Nike's), many more captured the newly kindled patriotism felt nationwide. Here are four of the best commercials from last Sunday that make this the most patriotic Super Bowl yet:

1. Rocket: "Own the Dream"

This touching commercial by the financial services company, Rocket, states "Everyone deserves a shot at the American dream," while showing images of people returning home and building families. The ad included a cover of John Denver's iconic song "Take Me Home, Country Roads" and featured an in-stadium sing-along, live from the Super Bowl.

2. Secret Service: "A History of Protection"

Donald Trump made history by being the first sitting president to attend a Super Bowl, which required the efforts of hundreds of Secret Service agents to ensure his safety. The Secret Service boasted of this feat during their minute-long commercial, which lauded American values and achievements and featured iconic American imagery.

3. Brad Pitt: "Huddle Up"

The Super Bowl introduction celebrated snapshots of American achievement accompanied with a powerful commentary about unity narrated by Brad Pitt. The message is clear: Americans can achieve great things when we work together. The ad conjures up American ideals such as hard work, ingenuity, self-sacrifice, and teamwork.

4. Jeep: "Big Game"

Movie star Harrison Ford appeared in Jeep's Super Bowl commercial to promote freedom and to remind us that "freedom isn't free." Ford treks through the mountains while ruminating on what freedom means in America and the opportunities and responsibilities that come with it.

How Trump is WINNING at the Panama Canal

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Despite the doubts of the nay-sayers, Trump's Panamanian plans have already borne fruit.

Shortly before his inauguration, President Trump drew national attention to the Panama Canal. He reminded Americans of just how important the canal is for the U.S. and highlighted the Chinese influence that has been slowly taking control of the vital passage ever since America handed it over to Panama.

President Trump was immediately mocked and ridiculed by the Left, who called him delusional and an imperialist. However, earlier this week, Trump's Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, made a trip to Panama and spoke with the Panamanian President, José Raúl Mulino, and Rubio made some serious headway. As Glenn has explained, Trump's boisterous talk is part of his strategy. Invading Panama was never the goal, just one of several options to get what America needed, and after Rubio's visit, it seems like America's needs will be met.

Here are the TOP THREE takeaways from Marco Rubio's visit to Panama:

1. Marco Rubio makes headway

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On February 2nd, Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with Panamanian Foreign Minister Javier Martínez-Acha and President José Raúl Mulino where they discussed critical regional and global challenges, including the canal. Rubio drew attention to the Treaty Concerning the Permanent Neutrality and Operation of the Panama Canal in which the U.S. promised Panama ownership of the canal on the condition of its guaranteed neutrality. Rubio argued that China's growing influence qualified as a breach of the treaty and that it gives the U.S. the power to take necessary measures to rectify the faults, given Panama doesn't act. As of this week, reports say Panama agreed and promised to take immediate action to purge Chinese influence from canal operations.

2. Panama is ditching China's Belt Road

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After his meeting with Rubio, Panamanian President Mulino agreed that Panama would step away from China's "Belt and Road Initiative" (BRI). The BRI is a Chinese effort to establish China as the main economic power in developing nations across the world. In 2017, Panama signed on to this initiative, and China's influence in the small nation has exponentially grown. However, after Rubio's visit, President Mulino has not only stated that Panama will not renew its agreement with China, but moreover, the country will also look for ways to back out of the agreement early. This is a massive win for the Trump Administration and the American people.

3. The Chinese may lose their ports on the canal

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Shortly after Rubio left Panama City, two lawyers spearheaded the effort to kick out a Chinese company that controls two major ports on the Panama Canal. The Chinese company—CK Hutchison Holdings—has operated one port on both ends of the canal since 1997, which could potentially give China a massive degree of control over traffic. After analyzing the contract, the Panamanian lawyers argue that the contract is potentially in violation of the Panamanian constitution and should be revoked. It is unclear if the constitutional issues relate to the Treaty Concerning the Permanent Neutrality and Operation of the Panama Canal, but even on its own merit, this is a huge victory for America.

Top 15 jobs AI is TAKING OVER

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The AI takeover has begun.

Last week, Glenn delved into the World Economic Forum's 2025 summit in Davos, where our malevolent overlords focused especially on AI and how it can replace millions of workers worldwide. We are at the precipice of a monumental change in how the world is run—WEF founder Klaus Schwab called it "The Fourth Industrial Revolution"—and in time, AI will augment every one of our lives.

Already, AI is taking jobs. Thousands, if not millions, of tasks are slowly being delegated to it. The affected fields are largely data entry, admin tasks, and clerical work, along with graphic design and some customer support roles. However, as AI becomes more sophisticated, the scope of its abilities will only grow. The WEF is all for it, and last month they released a shocking chart

that revealed what jobs were already feeling the pain. Check out the top 15 jobs that are already disappearing: