'We're splitting ourselves' - Glenn opens up honest conversation about racism

Lawrence Jones, a recognizable member of TheBlaze TV network, joined Glenn's program Wednesday evening along with several of his friends for an open conversation about racism in America.

A former Obama supporter who once bought into the idea all Republicans were racist, Lawrence shared the story of what changed his heart.

Watch the clip below.

Later in the program, Glenn dove into a very honest dialogue about racism with Lawrence and a few of his friends, who happened to disagree with him about certain black-lives-matter vs all-lives-matter issues.

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

GLENN: What I really try to want to get to, and Lawrence, you said this the other day, that there are some things that people can do to each other that would calm the seas a bit.

LAWRENCE: I was talking about I’m not saying that all white people should feel guilty. I’m not talking about slavery, I’m talking about the civil rights movement. But I think it would help if some black people could see some white people come to them and say look, my ancestors may have or may not have participated in that, but I’m sorry. I’m sorry. What happened was screwed up.

GLENN: Does that make a difference to you?

BRITTNEY: You know, I think it would make a difference because a lot of times you just try and gauge the situation. If I can be honest, I try and gauge the situation with a white person if they’re going to treat me right or if they’re going to treat me with respect or if they’re going to be disrespectful. I think it’s a big culture barrier between all of us.

GLENN: Because that’s really risky for you to say, can I be really risky back?

BRITTNEY: Yes, sir.

GLENN: I gauge, and I didn’t used to do this until the last five, eight years. I now gauge in a conversation with a black person, are you hostile? Are you going to try to trap me? Are you going to immediately assume I’m a racist, and so you’re trying to trap me into something? Do you know what I mean? Does that make sense?

BRITTNEY: Trap you into?

GLENN: Trap me into, take something that I say, instead of—I just said black. What do you mean, black? Why isn’t it African-American? You know what I mean?

BRITTNEY: That makes sense.

GLENN: So we’re at the situation to where we’re not really talking to each other because you’re gauging me, I’m gauging you, and we’re wasting time.

LAWRENCE: That’s part of the problem. It’s like everybody, you see it on news network every single day. There needs to be a conversation, but in order for a conversation to take place, the conversation needs to be unfiltered, and people to be able to lay out their heart, both white and black.

BRITTNEY: I agree.

SHANE: The conversation also needs to be fostered by some genuine desire for earnest communication. Right now we’re in the situation where—

GLENN: Everybody’s trying to win.

SHANE: Well, yeah, that’s right. This isn’t a competition, and this isn’t a sensationalistic news media issue. This is a human dignity issue, and having conversations like this like we had in the green room, that’s what’s going to effect change.

LAWRENCE: But there’s some people on both sides that are opposed to that. I posted on my Facebook, Glenn, the other day, that some of my friends are part of black lives matter and they’re going to be coming on the show. Some of the hate that I got was how could you be friends with them? Because I love them. I trust them more than I trust you because they have my back. I know at the end of the day we disagree politically, but I know that if I’m in need, they’re going to make sure I have food, a roof over my head.

GLENN: We never used to split ourselves. I’m older than all of you guys, but we didn’t split ourselves the way we’re splitting ourselves now. When push came to shove, we were still all Americans.

Terry Trobiani owns Gianelli's Drive Thru in Prairie Grove, Illinois, where he put up a row of American flags for the Fourth of July. But the city claimed he was displaying two of them improperly and issued him a $100 ticket for each flag.

Terry joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to explain what he believes really happened. He told Glenn that, according to city ordinance, the American flag is considered "ornamental" and should therefore have been permitted on a federal holiday. But the city has now classified the flag as a "sign."

"Apparently, the village of Prairie Grove has classified the American flag as a sign and they've taken away the symbol of the American flag," Terry said. "So, as a sign, it falls under their temporary sign ordinance, which prohibits any flying, or any positioning of signs on your property — and now this includes the American flag. [...] The only way I could fly the American flag on my property is if I put it on a permanent 20 to 30-foot flagpole, which they have to permit."

Terry went on to explain how the city is now demanding an apology for his actions, and all after more than a year of small-business crushing COVID restrictions and government mandates.

"COVID was tough," Terry stated. "You know, we're in the restaurant business. COVID was tough on us. We succeeded. We made it through. We cut a lot of things, but we never cut an employee. We paid all our employees. I didn't take a paycheck for a year just to keep our employees on, because it was that important to me to keep things going. And, you know, you fight for a year, and you beat a pandemic, and then you have this little municipality with five trustees and a president, who just have no respect for small businesses. And right now, what I see is they have no respect for the republic and the United States ... I think it's terrible. The direction that government, at all levels, have taken us to this point, it's despicable."

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The Biden administration is now doing everything it can to censor what it has decided is COVID-19 "misinformation." But Glenn Beck isn't confident that the silencing of voices will stop there.

Yeonmi Park grew up in North Korea, where there is no freedom of speech, and she joined Glenn to warn that America must not let this freedom go.

"Whenever authoritarianism rises, the first thing they go after is freedom of speech," she said.

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Most self-proclaimed Marxists know very little about Marxism. Some of them have all the buzzwords memorized. They talk about the exploits of labor. They talk about the slavery of capitalist society and the alienation caused by capital. They talk about the evils of power and domination.

But they don't actually believe what they say. Or else they wouldn't be such violent hypocrites. And we're not being dramatic when we say "violent."

For them, Marxism is a political tool that they use to degrade and annoy their political enemies.

They don't actually care about the working class.

Another important thing to remember about Marxists is that they talk about how they want to defend the working class, but they don't actually understand the working class. They definitely don't realize that the working class is composed mostly of so many of the people they hate. Because, here's the thing, they don't actually care about the working class. Or the middle class. They wouldn't have the slightest clue how to actually work, not the way we do. For them, work involves ranting about how work and labor are evil.

Ironically, if their communist utopia actually arrived, they would be the first ones against the wall. Because they have nothing to offer except dissent. They have no practical use and no real connection to reality.

Again ironically, they are the ultimate proof of the success of capitalism. The fact that they can freely call for its demise, in tweets that they send from their capitalistic iPhones, is proof that capitalism affords them tremendous luxuries.

Their specialty is complaining. They are fanatics of a religion that is endlessly cynical.

They sneer at Christianity for promising Heaven in exchange for good deeds on earth — which is a terrible description of Christianity, but it's what they actually believe — and at the same time they criticize Christianity for promising a utopia, they give their unconditional devotion to a religion that promises a utopia.

They are fanatics of a religion that is endlessly cynical.

They think capitalism has turned us into machines. Which is a bad interpretation of Marx's concept of the General Intellect, the idea that humans are the ones who create machines, so humans, not God, are the creators.

They think that the only way to achieve the perfect society is by radically changing and even destroying the current society. It's what they mean when they say things about the "status quo" and "hegemony" and the "established order." They believe that the system is broken and the way to fix it is to destroy, destroy, destroy.

Critical race theory actually takes it a step farther. It tells us that the racist system can never be changed. That racism is the original sin that white people can never overcome. Of course, critical race theorists suggest "alternative institutions," but these "alternative institutions" are basically the same as the ones we have now, only less effective and actually racist.

Marx's violent revolution never happened. Or at least it never succeeded. Marx's followers have had to take a different approach. And now, we are living through the Revolution of Constant Whining.

This post is part of a series on critical race theory. Read the full series here.

Americans are losing faith in our justice system and the idea that legal consequences are applied equally — even to powerful elites in office.

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to detail what he believes will come next with the Durham investigation, which hopefully will provide answers to the Obama FBI's alleged attempts to sabotage former President Donald Trump and his campaign years ago.

Rep. Nunes and Glenn assert that we know Trump did NOT collude with Russia, and that several members of the FBI possibly committed huge abuses of power. So, when will we see justice?

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