Donald Trump: Free speech foolish, shut down the internet

Following the deadly terror attack in San Bernardino, Donald Trump commanded the media spotlight after releasing a statement that all Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S.

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," a campaign press release said.

In his latest media bonanza, Trump suggested Bill Gates close the internet "in some way," saying people who ask about freedom of speech are foolish.

"We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech. Freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

Pat and Stu, in for Glenn while he's traveling, had a few things to say on the issue.

Listen to an excerpt below.

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

PAT: I don't know. This -- this Trump thing is just -- it's phenomenal. We're going to play some audio for you that is even more genius than -- than anything else he's said, I think.

STU: Is that possible?

PAT: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Well, let me just play this for you. Let me just -- you tell me how genius this is. Is this smarter than anything else he's said or is it just top five?

DONALD: And we have to do something. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some way. Somebody will say, "Oh, freedom of speech. Freedom of speech." These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people.

PAT: Foolish people who is freedom of speech, freedom of speech. You're foolish. Don't say that. Yes, there's a Constitution and a First Amendment that guarantees your freedom of speech, but you're foolish for saying that.

STU: Look, George Washington, foolish people.

DONALD: We have a lot of foolish people. We've got to maybe do something with the internet because they are recruiting by the thousands.

(laughter)

PAT: I mean...

STU: I'm sorry. Does Bill Gates have some sort of switch? If you go to Bill Gates and say, hey, we want to shut down the Internet in certain areas, can he just do it?

PAT: Parts of it. Yeah, I think he can.

STU: Okay. Because I was not aware of that.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah, Microsoft controls the internet. You didn't know. Everything is routed right through Seattle.

STU: Is it through Microsoft or just Bill Gates' house?

PAT: No, you're right. It's not Microsoft. It's Bill Gates' house.

STU: It's Bill Gates -- and the people who say freedom of speech, freedom of speech, are foolish people.

PAT: Those are foolish people.

STU: Man, I don't know what else to say. I mean, the guy never has a moment of thought about what the Constitution says. If that's what you want as a president, obviously there's a party that's been delivering this for white a long time, it's called the Democrat Party. They're the party that doesn't look at the Constitution and doesn't care what it says. This is reminiscent of another Republican candidate for president who said...

LINDSEY: Free speech is a great idea. But we're in a war.

PAT: Isn't that the same mentality?

STU: That is. Lindsey Graham.

PAT: It's a great idea. I mean, free speech is a great idea. But, I mean, we're in a war. Can't have it now.

STU: At least Graham acknowledges it's a great idea. To Trump it's like, freedom of speech, freedom of speech, these are foolish people.

PAT: Well, we talked about this yesterday. He doesn't care about the Constitution. If he even knows about it, he doesn't care.

STU: No. Never a moment of thought goes into what it does. What it's supposed to restrict the government from doing. I mean, you think you want that as a president of the United States, a guy who will do this stuff? Think about this, all of these crazy proposals that come out from Donald Trump, what do they always have in common? They make the government more powerful. That's what you want as a Republican nominee? Go ahead. But, I mean, that's insanity.

PAT: I think so too. But you can't get the Trump supporters to listen to any of this. They -- they're impervious to it.

 

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Here's a question unique to our times: "Should I tell my father 'Happy Father's Day,' even though he (she?) is now one of my mothers?"

Father's Day was four days ago, yes, but this story is just weird enough to report on. One enjoyable line to read was this gem from Hollywood Gossip: "Cait is a woman and a transgender icon, but she is also and will always be the father of her six children."

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Imagine reading that to someone ten — even five — years ago. And, honestly, there's something nice about it. But the strangeness of its having ever been written overpowers any emotional impact it might bring.

"So lucky to have you," wrote Kylie Jenner, in the Instagram caption under pre-transition pictures of Bruce Jenner.

Look. I risk sounding like a tabloid by mere dint of having even mentioned this story, but the important element is the cultural sway that's occurring. The original story was that a band of disgruntled Twitter users got outraged about the supposed "transphobic" remarks by Jenner's daughter.

But, what we should be saying is, "who the hell cares?" Who cares what one Jenner says to another — and more importantly and on a far deeper level — who cares what some anonymous Twitter user has to say?

When are we going to stop playing into the hands of the Twitter mob?

When are we going to stop playing into the hands of the Twitter mob? Because, at the moment, they've got it pretty good. They have a nifty relationship with the mainstream media: One or two Twitter users get outraged by any given thing — in this case Jenner and supposed transphobia. In return, the mainstream media use the Twitter comment as a source.

Then, a larger Twitter audience points to the article itself as proof that there's some kind of systemic justice at play. It's a closed-market currency, where the negative feedback loop of proof and evidence is composed of faulty accusations. Isn't it a hell of a time to be alive?

These days, when Americans decide to be outraged about something, we really go all out.

This week's outrage is, of course, the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy toward illegal immigration along the southern border. Specifically, people are upset over the part of the policy that separates children from their parents when the parents get arrested.

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Lost in all the outrage is that the President is being proactive about border security and is simply enforcing the law. Yes, we need to figure out a less clumsy, more compassionate way of enforcing the law, but children are not being flung into dungeons and fed maggots as the media would have you believe.

But having calm, reasonable debates about these things isn't the way it's done anymore. You have to make strong, sweeping announcements so the world knows how righteous your indignation is.

That's why yesterday, the governors of Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island and Connecticut declared they are withholding or recalling their National Guard troops from the U.S.-Mexico border until this policy of separating children from their parents is rescinded.

Adding to the media stunt nature of this entire "crisis," it turns out this defiant announcement from these five governors is mostly symbolic. Because two months ago, when President Trump called for 4,000 additional National Guard troops to help patrol the border, large numbers of troops were not requested from those five states. In fact, no troops were requested at all from Rhode Island. But that didn't stop Rhode Island's Democratic governor, Gina Raimondo, from announcing she would refuse to send troops if she were asked. She called the family separation policy, "immoral, unjust and un-American."

There's so much outrage, we're running short on adjectives.

The governors of Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New York all used the word "inhumane" in their statements condemning the Trump administration policy. There's so much outrage, we're running short on adjectives.

In a totally unrelated coincidence, four of these five governors are running for re-election this year.

I've made my position clear — separating these children from their parents is a bad policy and we need to stop. We need to treat these immigrants with the kind of compassion we'd want for our own children. And I said the same thing in 2014 when no one cared about the border crisis.

If consistency could replace even just a sliver of the outrage in America, we would all be a lot better off.

I think we can all agree, both on the Left and the Right, that children who have been caught up in illegal immigration is an awful situation. But apparently what no one can agree on is when it matters to them. This past weekend, it suddenly — and even a little magically — began to matter to the Left. Seemingly out of nowhere, they all collectively realized this was a problem and all rushed to blame the Trump administration.

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Here's Rachel Maddow yesterday:

I seem to remember getting mocked by the Left for showing emotion on TV, but I'll give her a pass here. This is an emotional situation. But this is what I can't give her a pass on: where the heck was this outrage and emotion back in 2014? Because the same situation going on today — that stuff Maddow and the rest of the Left have only just now woken up to — was going on back in July 2014! And it was arguably worse back then.

I practically begged and pleaded for people to wake up to what was going on. We had to shed light on how our immigration system was being manipulated by people breaking our laws, and they were using kids as pawns to get it done. But unlike the gusto the Left is using now to report this story, let's take a look at what Rachel Maddow thought was more important back in 2014.

On July 1, 2014, Maddow opened her show with a riveting monologue on how President Obama was hosting a World Cup viewing party. That's hard-hitting stuff right there.

On July 2, 2014, Maddow actually acknowledged kids were at the border, but she referenced Health and Human Services only briefly and completely rushed through what was actually happening to these kids. She made a vague statement about a "policy" stating where kids were being taken after their arrival. She also blamed Congress for not acting.

See any difference in reporting there from today? That "policy" she referenced has suddenly become Trump's "new" policy, and it isn't Congress's fault… it's all on the President.

She goes on throughout the week.

On July 7, 2014, her top story was something on the Koch brothers. Immigration was only briefly mentioned at the end of the show. This trend continued all the way through the week. I went to the border on July 19. Did she cover it? Nope. In fact, she didn't mention kids at the border for the rest of the month. NOT AT ALL.

Do you care about immigrant kids who have been caught in the middle of a broken immigration system or not?

Make up your minds. Is this an important issue or not? Do you care about immigrant kids who have been caught in the middle of a broken immigration system or not? Do you even care to fix it, or is this what it looks like — just another phony, addicted-to-outrage political stunt?

UPDATE: Here's how this discussion went on radio. Watch the video below.

Glenn gives Rachel Maddow the benefit of the doubt

Rachel Maddow broke down in tears live on her MSNBC show over border crisis.

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Eight years of multiplying the national debt wasn't enough for Barack Obama. Old fleecing habits die hard. What's another $200 million here and there, especially for something as important as an Obama tribute center?

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That's all well and good except Illinois can't even fund its pension system. The state has a $137 billion funding shortfall. That means every person in Illinois owes $11,000 for pensions, and there is no plan to fix the mess. Unless Illinois progressives have discovered a new kind of math, this doesn't really add up. You can't fund pensions, but you're going to figure out a way to milk the public for another $200 million to help cover the cost of a library?

It's hard to imagine who in their right mind would think this will be money well spent. Well, except for maybe Chicago Mayor and former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel who said, "The state's… investment in infrastructure improvements near the Obama Center on the South Side of Chicago is money well spent."

Some presidential overreach lasts longer than others.

The spending has already been signed into law, even though the Obama library has not received construction approval yet. Part of the holdup is that the proposed site is on public land in historic Jackson Park. That doesn't seem very progressive of the Obamas, but, you know, for certain presidents, you go above and beyond. It's just what you do. Some presidential overreach lasts longer than others.

Here's the thing about taxing the peasants so the king can build a fancy monument to himself – it's wrong. And completely unnecessary. The Obamas have the richest friends on the planet who could fund this project in their sleep. If the world simply must have a tricked-out Obama museum, then let private citizens take out their wallets voluntarily.

As the Mercury Museum proved this weekend, it is possible to build an exhibit with amazing artifacts that attracts a ton of visitors – and it cost taxpayers approximately zero dollars.