Doc & Skip: On the Ground Reporting From Iowa

Doc & Skip phoned in from Iowa Monday morning to share their experiences on the ground in Iowa. The duo attended both Republican and Democrat caucuses, offering interesting comparisons and discussing quite a range of topics, including the real story in Iowa, Mike Huckabee's plan B and tidbits about several other "lower tier" candidates (hint: Jeb Bush got booed).

Interestingly, the two asked Bernie Sanders supporters to define socialism and communism. When they asked Doc the difference between the two, he had a stellar answer: "About a year and a half."

Listen to the full segment below:

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors:

GLENN: They'll give -- because I'm totally sincere about that. No, I really mean that. Totally sincere.

All right, let's go to Doc and Skip.

DOC: Glenn, you mentioned Mike Huckabee. What he said about him. About an hour before the Iowa caucus, because we're here in Des Moines, actually HEP Altune, outside of Des Moines, but about an hour before, he was on a local radio station being interviewed, Donald Trump, and, again, he sings the praises of Mike Huckabee. He comes out, "Mike Huckabee, great guy. He came out to the event I had. Great guy."

SKIP: Rick Santorum too. Like you said, all you have to do is kiss the ring.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Well, I think he's trying to get Mike Huckabee's -- and Mike is going to endorse Donald Trump.

JEFFY: Well, those two ended up speaking at his opposing rally to the debate, so --

DOC: Here's what we heard from a friend of a friend who knows somebody who saw Ferris HEP pass out at 31 Flavors last night, that Mike Huckabee is now -- and this is not going to be a surprise, but officially has been for the last couple of weeks, jockeying for that VP week from somebody. And then you know Trump is a deal-maker. I don't know if Trump is willing to do it, but that's what Mike is thinking. Mike is looking for a -- he's playing the base on -- Fox is up, you know. Where is he going to go?

GLENN: So are you thinking that somebody is going to want that whopping 2 percent or 4 percent?

DOC: No.

STU: He's a deal-maker, but he's not stupid. He won't sell the VP slot for 4 percent.

GLENN: No, that's ridiculous.

DOC: Maybe he's ambassador to Uruguay or something like that.

STU: Yeah. Have you guys been able to track down and meet any one of Gilcrestmorelandson's 12 votes?

DOC: No, they're very scattered throughout the state, the way we understand. We put out an all HEP points bulletin for them, but we haven't got any one of the 12.

SKIP: Sorry. Go ahead, Glenn.

GLENN: No, please, you.

SKIP: I was going to say, yeah, at this point, we can chalk it up to a statistical anomaly that he even got any points at this points.

STU: He really did -- I'm not joking. He legitimately got 12 votes statewide. Twelve.

PAT: Literally 12?

STU: Literally 12.

GLENN: Come on. That's more than I thought.

PAT: No way. He got 12 votes?

(laughter)

DOC: Do you realize "other" got 116?

(laughter)

PAT: "Other" beat Jim Gilmore?

GLENN: Pat, put two fingers up. Right there, he got that many people in Iowa. That many.

PAT: That many. That's crazy.

SKIP: Essentially, Glenn, you got more votes than he did.

GLENN: That's crazy. That's crazy.

PAT: That's the real story of the night then. Jim Gilmore -- you got to try to only get 12 votes. That's hard to do.

STU: That's very hard.

PAT: Seriously.

GLENN: So Doc and Skip, you're in Iowa. You did one of the campaign rally things last night.

DOC: No, we went to one of the caucuses. Precinct 76. And we actually got to sit in and witness both the Democrats caucusing and the Republicans caucusing. And it's really a fascinating procedure.

The Democrats just get up, and they all start speechifying. Everybody in the room starts yelling to try to convince people to come over to their side and support their candidate.

The Republicans, a little more refined. They sit down. One person stands up. Just anybody there that is representing or wants to speak on behalf of the person they're supporting stand up and speak for three minutes. And then they do a written vote, and that's the end of it.

They go down the list and they're like, "Okay. Anybody for Ted Cruz?" By the way, it was like four to one in our precinct, the group sitting there for Ted Cruz. Guy stands up and speaks. Trump. Everybody goes down the list.

Then they go, okay. There was one person in there for Mike Huckabee. Chris Christie? No. Carly Fiorina? No. Jeb Bush? And the place busts out in laughter. I'm not kidding.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Did you get that on tape?

DOC: They laughed.

GLENN: Wow.

DOC: They were like, "Okay. Let us just move on."

GLENN: How many people did Jeb get?

PAT: Well, he only had 3 percent, right? Did he have 3 percent of the vote? Last time I saw he was at 2 or 3 percent. Really bad.

GLENN: This is the real story. The real story on both sides: The establishment, Washington, the Democrats and the Republicans are over. It's just over.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: You put Hillary Clinton in, there's going to be nothing left of the Democratic Party. You put an establishment guy into the office, there will be nothing left of the Republican Party. Nothing.

DOC: We sat down and talked to a bunch of Democrats. They didn't know who we are. We said, hey, why are you supporting Bernie? Why are you supporting Hillary? They said a lot of things where you could tell they were buying into the talking points. You know, well, we need this. We need that. One old lady said, "Well, it's time for a woman, so a woman can finally make the same as a man." And I was like, "Okay. That's been disproven. Got it."

But then several of us told us about how poor they were. And it wasn't about just getting free stuff. These people were really poor. One lady told us how she lost her daughter last year because she didn't have health care. She couldn't afford it.

And another lady has a brain tumor and says, "I can't afford the medicine. It was $700 a month."

And another old lady said she can't afford her medicine. These people are saying, "I'm here because I don't know what else to do."

And it occurred to me, this is lost on the Republicans. If you don't want to this to be a competition anymore, then you've got to actually put forth a plan to fix the economy. And they're not doing it. I mean, they're in it for the same talking points. You know, we're conservative. And values. And the party of personal freedoms or whatever. But where are the big ideas? Where are the people leading that are saying, we are going to pass a balanced budget amendment? We're going to do true tax reform. We're going to shut down the Department of Education. And put learning online. Where are those ideas?

PAT: Well, Ted Cruz.

GLENN: That's what I've been hearing him say on the campaign trail the whole time. The problem is that nobody covers him.

PAT: Yeah. And they don't talk about his tax plan.

GLENN: No. 10 percent tax plan.

PAT: 10 percent tax plan.

GLENN: And when you want to talk about creating jobs, the thing with creating jobs is his idea of, I'm going to get rid of the EPA. I'm going to get rid of the bureaucracy to be able to create the jobs. I mean, that's the secret here, is Donald Trump says, "I'll make America great because I'm going to manage Washington better."

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Donald Trump is saying -- I mean, Ted Cruz is saying, "There's no managing Washington better. Get Washington out of the way."

PAT: Right. Right.

GLENN: And that's what will create the jobs. But nobody is talked like that anymore.

DOC: No. But they have to explain it to these people. They have to sit down and say, "Guys, this is the way forward. We have to do it this way."

GLENN: But, you know what, play the cut where CNN asked the socialists, the people who are voting for a socialist, what is the definition of a socialist?

VOICE: Can you define socialism?

VOICE: Socialism?

PAT: No.

VOICE: Can you define socialism?

VOICE: Can I define socialism?

VOICE: Probably not. If I'm being totally honest.

VOICE: Socialism. Oh, boy, I don't think I can.

VOICE: Like Social Security. Roads. Medicaid, depending on the form that it takes. Anything that sort of comes together (?) and is publically funded through our government would be socialism. I might be wrong. So if you make me look like a fool on the news, I'll forgive you for it.

VOICE: Hillary Clinton, no, you can't. (?) you couldn't dream. It's nothing wrong with dreaming. You want to teach our kids to dream. Because you cannot dream. You can't dream. And it's possible for a political revolution.

PAT: Keep at mind, that's at a Bernie Sanders rally. That's at the big Bernie Sanders get together, and none of them know what the hell --

DOC: You guys think they can't dream?

GLENN: And that's not Fox News doing that, that's CNN doing that. They don't have any idea what socialism is. (?)

SKIP: The headlines are going to go viral with that headline. Media Matters is already writing up that post.

GLENN: It's amazing. It's amazing.

STU: We find that out on More-On Trivia.

PAT: No one knows what it is?

STU: It's like a social network when you socialize. (?)

DOC: Debbie Wasserman Schultz doesn't know what it is.

STU: To Chris Matthews' credit, nobody wants to answer. (?)

SKIP: Nobody has been able to answer that.

GLENN: Here's the answer, it is the step between capitalism and communism. That's what the answer is.

DOC: When they say what's the difference? I say, about a year and a half. It's a step in the process. On the way there.

PAT: That's good.

GLENN: Let me show you now Ben Sasse. Ben Sasse was asked to define conservatism. What does it mean to be a conservative? He answered it less than 90 seconds. We'll go to that in just a second.

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