Ginni Thomas — Wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas — Visits With Glenn at CPAC

Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, sat down with Glenn Thursday morning on The Glenn Beck Program. Broadcasting live from CPAC in Washington D.C., Glenn talked with Mrs. Thomas about the passing of Antonin Scalia, Donald Trump's presidential run and her support for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

GLENN: You have lived in a nasty world for a very long time. And yet, you're happy. You're a happy conservative warrior.

GINNI: Well, most days. Some of my friends might not say that happens every day. But, yeah, I'm from Nebraska. I've got to fight for the country, like my parents did. I'm my mother's daughter more than my husband's wife.

GLENN: My wife has become more and more protective of me. And we were in Vegas, and these women really --- they were Trump supporters --- and they were nasty. I mean, really Brownshirt nasty. And I saw a different side of my wife come out. I mean, it was almost a chick fight. It was amazing. Do you have a hard time not saying things?

GINNI:  Oh, my husband is the best man walking the face of the earth. And, yeah, I'm going to do everything I can. We're in a fight for the country, and it's over ideas. And I believe the husband's ideas are in line with Ginni's ideas and what my parents believed in for the country. And so, yeah, you fight for your ideas. That's what CPAC is about, that's what we're doing every day. Why even do this unless you cared passionately about your beliefs and your principles?

GLENN: How is he holding up with the passing of Scalia? It must be weird to work with people for so long, and everybody in that room is a legend.

GINNI: Yes, he was. He's a great --- I mean, I can't even use it in the past, but Justice Scalia fills the world, not just a room, not just the court. I mean, he was gregarious and wonderful and brilliant. And the way he worked with my husband, they were like two friends from different places.

Clarence said the other day at a memorial that Scalia was from an educated, elite, northeast home, and Clarence came from an illiterate family in the southeast. But they found themselves on the path together to save the country and to believe in the Constitution and the things they were fighting for.  

So now we have an assault on constitutional governance, and he fights on the inside over there, and he's lost a big friend. And it's painful, as any death is of a very close friend. And yet, it has national repercussions. And it will probably be really bad. So we've got to fight even harder, Glenn.

GLENN: I saw that it was strange to see in the newspaper that your husband asked a question, and it was like, stop the world . . . Clarence Thomas said something! But I took that as your husband recognizing the position and the void and stepping into some new shoes.

GINNI: Yes, I was surprised too. He came home at like 3 o'clock. I was like, "What happened?" I always hear about it on the outside. So he said, "I think Sam needs some more help now," meaning Sam Alito. I mean, you know, Nino Scalia filled a big room, and the oral arguments and everything. So, you know, everybody has to step up when somebody big has come out of the picture and died.

So that's what I felt like when Barbara Olsen died. Like, I had to stop being in the shadows. I had to be more out there. So Barbara Olsen did that for me in a way that I'm sure Justice Scalia's passing will do for a lot of people who followed and loved him.

GLENN: As I was reflecting on his life, I thought to myself, I wish we would have focused on this. The friendship between him and Ginsburg --- is, quite honestly, I think one of the most important legacies that he left. That you can be polar opposites, and yet you can be dear, dear friends.

GINNI: She spoke at the memorial just the other day at the Mayflower. So that's available on C-SPAN too. And her words about her friend that she --- they both disagreed with each other, are very compelling. And are a model for civility and disagreement among Americans who love America.

GLENN: Let's talk a little about, what do you think is happening with the country and with Ted Cruz's chances? I mean, I know you're a political activist. You're wearing a #CruzCrew button.

GINNI: Yes, yes. I think there's one more chance for Ted Cruz. I think Marco Rubio needs to leave. I think it would be mano a mano and conservative versus establishment if we could have Ted Cruz versus Donald Trump. And Donald Trump was kind of my second choice until I started seeing more about him. And when the establishment started embracing him, I started like, "Hmm. Maybe that's not --- maybe I should learn more."

GLENN: What was your pivot point?

GINNI: When the establishment embraced him in order to take Cruz out. They are so threatened by Ted Cruz because they know the man is principled. And so he might not be the guy you want over for dinner. But he is our Churchillian candidate who can right the ship. What do you think?

GLENN: How much trouble are we in? Will you vote for Donald Trump if he's the candidate?

GINNI: Ask me that later, please. I don't know. I, I guess I have to. I don't really want to answer that right now. 

Listen to this segment from The Glenn Beck Program:

Featured Image: Screenshot from The Glenn Beck Program with Virginia Davis and Glenn Beck at CPAC.

On Monday's episode of "The Glenn Beck Radio Program," Glenn opened up about the tragic death of his brother-in-law, Vincent Colonna Jr., who passed away unexpectedly on April 5. He also shared some of the important thoughts and insights he's learned through the grieving process.

"Last Monday, I was sitting in this chair ... the two-minute warning comes and Stu said to me, 'You ready for the show?'' ... And that's when my wife [Tania] came to the door of the studio here at our house and said, 'I...' and she held the phone up. And then she collapsed on the floor in tears," Glenn began. "Tania's brother had passed. To say this was a shock, is an understatement."

Glenn described his brother-in-law as having "a servant's spirit."

"He was always the guy who lit up the room. He was always the guy helping others. He would never stop, because he was always helping others," Glenn said of Vincent. "He was on the school board. He was a little league coach. He was the soccer coach. He helped build the church. He took care of the lawn of the church. He was constantly doing things, raising money for charity, working over here, helping to organize this. But he was never the guy in the spotlight. He was just the guy doing it, and you had no idea how much he had done because he never talked about it.

"We also didn't know how much mental anguish he was in because he never talked about it. And last Monday morning, after spending Easter with the family ... he killed himself. This is now the third family member of mine that has gone through this. And I keep seeing it play out over and over and over again, in exactly the same way."

Glenn described his thoughts as he, Tania, and her family struggled to come to grips with the devastating loss.

"I learned some really important things as I was watching this wake. I'm seeing these people from all walks of life ... the people that were there, were there because [Vince] made a difference in their life. He was a true servant. As I'm watching this, all that kept going through my mind was, 'by their fruits, ye shall know them.' The fruits of his labor were on display. He was a servant all the time. All the time ... he found a way to love everybody.

"There are two great commandments: Love God with all your heart and mind and soul. And love your neighbor. So those two great commandments boil down to: Love truth. Because that's what God is," Glenn said.

"Love thy neighbor. That's where joy comes from. The opposite of joy is despair, and that is the complete absence of hope ... and how do you find joy? You find joy by rooting yourself in the truth. Even if that's a truth you don't want to accept. Accept the truth," he added. "But we have to stop saying that there's nothing we can do. What are we going to do? Well, here's the first thing: stop living a lie."

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After imprisoning a pastor for refusing to follow COVID-19 restrictions, Canadian officials barricaded his church. And when some church members retaliated by tearing down part of the fence, Canadian Mounties arrived in riot gear.

Rebel News Founder Ezra Levant joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to give his insight on the crazy situation. He described the new, armed police presence surrounding GraceLife Church in Edmonton, Alberta, and how it not only encouraged hundreds of protesters to stand with the church in support but forced congregation members underground to worship as well.

What's happening is eerily similar to what occurs everyday in China, Levant says, and it must stop. Who would have thought this type of tyranny would be so close to home?

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Enough prayers? Why is supposed Catholic Joe Biden suggesting that Congress ought to stop praying for after someone commits acts of gun violence?

On Friday, Stu Burguiere and Pat Gray filled in for Glenn and discussed President Joe Biden's remarks during his speech on gun control. "Enough prayers. Time for some action," Biden said. Stu and Pat were surprised how dismissive Biden appeared to be on the idea of prayer.

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Just days after Canadian pastor James Coates was released from prison for refusing to bow to COVID-19 lockdown restrictions, several police officers showed up at another church to ensure restrictions were being followed. But Polish pastor Artur Pawlowski of the Cave of Adullam Church in Alberta, Canada, knew his rights, telling the cops not to come back until they had a warrant in hand.

Filling in for Glenn Beck on the radio program this week, Pat Gray and Stu Burguiere played a video of the interaction.

"Please get out. Please get out of this property immediately. Get out!" Pawlowski can be heard yelling at the six officers who entered his church.

"Out! Out! Out! Get out of this property immediately until you come back with a warrant," he continued. "Go out and don't come back. I don't want to talk to you. You Nazis, Gestapo is not allowed here! ... Nazis are not welcome here! Do not come back you Nazi psychopaths. Unbelievable sick, evil people. Intimidating people in a church during the Passover! You Gestapo, Nazi, communist fascists! Don't you dare come back here!"

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