'He Did Not Hate White People': Dallas Shooter's Parents Break Silence

The parents of Micah Johnson spoke exclusively to Lawrence Jones of TheBlaze Sunday evening, just three hours following the memorial service for their son. Wary and distrustful of the media, the family reached out to Jones after seeing his coverage of the story on TV.

"It was a very dicey thing, because they didn't want to talk to any members of the press. But Lawrence, I think she felt --- and correct me if I'm wrong --- that you were somebody who's going to go in and listen and let her tell her side of the story. Is that correct?" Glenn asked during his radio program Monday morning.

"That's correct because I didn't call her. Even when she reached out initially, I didn't call her again to say can you do this time. I waited for her to call me back. There was a certain part of me that didn't even want to touch it, because I'm not a journalist, you know, I'm a commentator," Lawrence said.

With major news outlets camped outside the Johnson family home, Lawrence managed to sit down for an exclusive conversation with the family, who wanted to clarify news reports and speak about their son.

The interview spanned 90 minutes and covered a myriad of topics, including reports about Johnson's military history, his alleged association with the Nation of Islam and bomb-making materials found in his room. Regarding his military service, the family made very clear that Johnson went into the military idealistic about his country and government, and returned a very different person.

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"They separated his life between when he entered the military and when he left the military," Lawrence said.

Following his service, Johnson became disappointed and disillusioned.

"He was very disappointed, very disappointed," Johnson's mother said. "It may be that the ideal that he thought of our government, of what he thought the military represented, it just didn't live up to his expectations."

Lawrence specifically wanted to address reports of racism and whether or not Johnson, whose stepmother Donna Johnson is white, hated white people.

"I even asked her a question, because this is key to this whole story: Did Micah hate white people?" Lawrence said.

While acknowledging his frustration over perceived injustices, his stepmother staunchly defended him on this point.

"He loved me. He did not hate white people. He loved my family. He had friends of all shapes and sizes and colors. We just . . . we didn't see that in one another. It was a deep abiding love. He is . . . he was a great kid. Very respectful," Mrs. Johnson said.

Glenn speculated about another theory that might have pushed Johnson over the edge.

"I'm wondering if this is the Bubba effect. The Bubba effect is the government isn't doing its job. There is no such thing as justice. They're not obeying their own rules. They're not who they say they are. They're lying to us. And we're not going to get anywhere with these liars," Glenn wondered.

"He hated liars. She wanted to say that," Lawrence added.

The full interview with the Johnson family will be available Wednesday on TheBlaze.

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On Monday's episode of "The Glenn Beck Radio Program," Glenn opened up about the tragic death of his brother-in-law, Vincent Colonna Jr., who passed away unexpectedly on April 5. He also shared some of the important thoughts and insights he's learned through the grieving process.

"Last Monday, I was sitting in this chair ... the two-minute warning comes and Stu said to me, 'You ready for the show?'' ... And that's when my wife [Tania] came to the door of the studio here at our house and said, 'I...' and she held the phone up. And then she collapsed on the floor in tears," Glenn began. "Tania's brother had passed. To say this was a shock, is an understatement."

Glenn described his brother-in-law as having "a servant's spirit."

"He was always the guy who lit up the room. He was always the guy helping others. He would never stop, because he was always helping others," Glenn said of Vincent. "He was on the school board. He was a little league coach. He was the soccer coach. He helped build the church. He took care of the lawn of the church. He was constantly doing things, raising money for charity, working over here, helping to organize this. But he was never the guy in the spotlight. He was just the guy doing it, and you had no idea how much he had done because he never talked about it.

"We also didn't know how much mental anguish he was in because he never talked about it. And last Monday morning, after spending Easter with the family ... he killed himself. This is now the third family member of mine that has gone through this. And I keep seeing it play out over and over and over again, in exactly the same way."

Glenn described his thoughts as he, Tania, and her family struggled to come to grips with the devastating loss.

"I learned some really important things as I was watching this wake. I'm seeing these people from all walks of life ... the people that were there, were there because [Vince] made a difference in their life. He was a true servant. As I'm watching this, all that kept going through my mind was, 'by their fruits, ye shall know them.' The fruits of his labor were on display. He was a servant all the time. All the time ... he found a way to love everybody.

"There are two great commandments: Love God with all your heart and mind and soul. And love your neighbor. So those two great commandments boil down to: Love truth. Because that's what God is," Glenn said.

"Love thy neighbor. That's where joy comes from. The opposite of joy is despair, and that is the complete absence of hope ... and how do you find joy? You find joy by rooting yourself in the truth. Even if that's a truth you don't want to accept. Accept the truth," he added. "But we have to stop saying that there's nothing we can do. What are we going to do? Well, here's the first thing: stop living a lie."

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After imprisoning a pastor for refusing to follow COVID-19 restrictions, Canadian officials barricaded his church. And when some church members retaliated by tearing down part of the fence, Canadian Mounties arrived in riot gear.

Rebel News Founder Ezra Levant joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to give his insight on the crazy situation. He described the new, armed police presence surrounding GraceLife Church in Edmonton, Alberta, and how it not only encouraged hundreds of protesters to stand with the church in support but forced congregation members underground to worship as well.

What's happening is eerily similar to what occurs everyday in China, Levant says, and it must stop. Who would have thought this type of tyranny would be so close to home?

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Enough prayers? Why is supposed Catholic Joe Biden suggesting that Congress ought to stop praying for after someone commits acts of gun violence?

On Friday, Stu Burguiere and Pat Gray filled in for Glenn and discussed President Joe Biden's remarks during his speech on gun control. "Enough prayers. Time for some action," Biden said. Stu and Pat were surprised how dismissive Biden appeared to be on the idea of prayer.

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Just days after Canadian pastor James Coates was released from prison for refusing to bow to COVID-19 lockdown restrictions, several police officers showed up at another church to ensure restrictions were being followed. But Polish pastor Artur Pawlowski of the Cave of Adullam Church in Alberta, Canada, knew his rights, telling the cops not to come back until they had a warrant in hand.

Filling in for Glenn Beck on the radio program this week, Pat Gray and Stu Burguiere played a video of the interaction.

"Please get out. Please get out of this property immediately. Get out!" Pawlowski can be heard yelling at the six officers who entered his church.

"Out! Out! Out! Get out of this property immediately until you come back with a warrant," he continued. "Go out and don't come back. I don't want to talk to you. You Nazis, Gestapo is not allowed here! ... Nazis are not welcome here! Do not come back you Nazi psychopaths. Unbelievable sick, evil people. Intimidating people in a church during the Passover! You Gestapo, Nazi, communist fascists! Don't you dare come back here!"

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