Who Was More Evil — Mao, Stalin or Hitler?

This week marks the 77th anniversary of the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939. Most people know nothing about this treaty, assuming, if anything, it was two countries agreeing to a truce. Far more than a peace treaty, the Nazi-Soviet Pact allowed Germany to invade portions of Eastern Europe and accomplish the unthinkable.

While the United States did fight alongside the Soviet Union late in World War II, many forget that the Soviets and Germans were allied early on as part of Hitler's strategy.

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"He didn't think he had enough firepower to fight a two-front war, so he kept them at bay with this treaty and wound up killing everybody else, and the Soviets stood by and watched and did a bunch of their own stuff. It wasn't until after that we wound up allying with them. I mean, it's a really terrible and overlooked moment of history, particularly in that war," Co-host Stu Burguiere said.

Ilya Somin, law professor at George Mason University, joined The Glenn Beck Program on Friday to discuss his new book, Democracy and Political Ignorance: Why Smaller Government is Smarter. Somin, who lost family members directly because of the Nazi-Soviet Pact, is an expert on the subject.

"One of the immediate results of the Nazi-Soviet Pact was the war between the Soviet Union and Finland, which the Soviet Union invaded Finland because, as part of their agreement with the Germans, Finland fell within the Soviet sphere," Somin explained.

His great uncle was a Russian soldier who was killed in the Russo-Finnish War.

"I also lost a large number of other relatives to the Holocaust and World War II, more generally, and the Nazi-Soviet Pact played a major role in all of that as well," Somin said.

Glenn then asked about Somin's belief that the Nazi-Soviet Pact was one of the biggest mistakes for peace in world history.

"I think it's actually worse than a mistake. The Munich agreement between the British and the French and the Nazis, that was a mistake in that Neville Chamberlain, I think, genuinely wanted peace, but he badly screwed up on how to get it. On the other hand, the agreement between Stalin and Hitler was not just a mistake; it was an actual crime. Because these were two brutal mass murdering dictators who deliberately sought to carve up much of Eastern Europe between them, in ways that led to mass murder and enormous suppression for many millions of people. So there were some mistakes involved, perhaps especially on Stalin's part, but fundamentally it was much worse than merely a mistake," Somin said.

How the Nazi-Soviet Pact ended is of some dispute between historians, although Somin has a preferred theory.

"I think the most plausible theory is that Stalin saw a couple different advantages in signing the deal with Hitler," Somin said.

Out of curiosity, Glenn asked who Somin considered the most evil --- Mao, Hitler or Stalin.

"How would you rank them? Because the world would always put Hitler up at the top," Glenn said.

"It depends on how you want to do the ranking. If you just want to rank it by the number of innocent people that they slaughtered, Mao would have to rank at the top. Probably as many as over 40 million people, which is more than the number of victims of Stalin and much more than the number of victims of Hitler. You could say, however, well, that was just because Mao ruled a country with an enormous population for 27 years, whereas Stalin ruled a country with a smaller population than China. And Hitler had only 12 years in power," Somin said.

The professor had a more relevant approach to analyze the three evil men.

"What I think is important to remember, at the very least, that the three of them are comparable evils. Although historians are certainly aware of the crimes of Mao and Stalin, they get much less press and much less attention than those of Hitler do. And I think that's unfortunate, even though as I mentioned before, I certainly lost relatives in the Holocaust. I have no desire to minimize Hitler's crimes in any way," Somin said.

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Featured Image: A woman holds up cards featuring (from L to R) Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Nicolae Ceausescu and Adolf Hitler from the 'Das Fuehrer Quartett' (Tyrant Quartet) card game at a Berlin shop on July 17, 2008. The game is based on a popular German children's card game called Quartet, (in English 'Happy Families'). In this version, the cards present pictures and information on notorious historical figures such as Joseph Stalin, Francisco Franco and Adolf Hitler. (Photo Credit: JOHN MACDOUGALL/AFP/Getty Images)

On the radio program Monday, Glenn Beck, Pat Gray, and Stu Burguiere reacted to a recent Washington Post op-ed in which the author, Ron Charles, suggests that "as Confederate statues finally tumble across America, [and] television networks are marching through their catalogues looking to take down racially offensive content," perhaps the next items that should be up on the cancel-culture chopping block are "problematic books."

"Monuments celebrating racist traitors, which were erected to fabricate history and terrify black Americans, are not works of art that deserve our respect or preservation. Similarly, scenes of modern-day white comedians reenacting minstrel-show caricatures are not ironical interrogations of racism that we have to stomach any longer. But complex works of literature are large, they contain multitudes," Charles wrote.

He goes on to argue that "calibrating our Racism Detector to spot only a few obvious sins" is but an insidious source of self-satisfaction when compared to the process of critical debate on the values and intentions of history's literary legends.

"If cancel culture has a weakness, it's that it risks short-circuiting the process of critical engagement that leads to our enlightenment," Charles wrote. "Scanning videos for blackface or searching text files for the n-word is so much easier than contending with, say, the systemic tokenism of TV rom-coms or the unbearable whiteness of Jane Austen."

Could cancel culture really spiral all the way down to book burning? In the clip below, Glenn, Pat, and Stu agreed that this radical progressive movement is really about erasing America's history and overturning the foundation of our country. The fundamental transformation of America is happening now.

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It's been a tough year, America. Our news media is inundating us with images of destruction, violence, and division in attempts not only to desecrate our nation, but to make us turn our backs on it. That's why now, more than ever, we need to take an up-close look at America's history to remember what it is we're fighting for and how to fight for it with practical action.

Join Glenn Beck, broadcasting from Standing Rock Ranch, as he takes us to Plymouth, Gettysburg, and Federal Hall on an important journey through America's remarkable history to inspire a brighter future. Glenn asks the hard questions of every American. Is this system worth saving? Is there a better way? Where do we go from here, and how do we answer those questions?

Featuring performances from the Millennial Choirs and Orchestras, David Osmond, a very special children's choir, and guests Bob Woodson, Tim Ballard, David Barton, Burgess Owens, Kathy Barnette, Anna Paulina Luna, and Tim Barton.

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"Restoring Hope" has been a labor of love for Glenn and his team and tonight is the night! "Restoring the Covenant" was supposed to take place in Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Gettysburg and Washington D.C. but thanks to COVID-19, that plan had to be scrapped. "Restoring Hope" is what was left after having to scrap nearly two years of planning. The Herald Journal in Idaho detailed what the event was supposed to be and what it turned into. Check out the article below to get all the details.

Glenn Beck discusses patriotic, religious program filmed at Idaho ranch

On July 2, commentator Glenn Beck and his partners will issue a challenge from Beck's corner of Franklin County to anyone who will listen: "Learn the truth, commit to the truth, then act on the truth."

Over the last few weeks, he has brought about 1,000 people to his ranch to record different portions of the program that accompanies the challenge. On June 19, about 400 members of the Millennial Choir and Orchestra met at West Side High School before boarding WSSD buses to travel to a still spring-green section of Beck's ranch to record their portion of the program.

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The current riots and movement to erase America's history are exactly in line with the New York Times' "1619 Project," which argues that America was rotten at its beginning, and that slavery and systemic racism are the roots of everything from capitalism to our lack of universal health care.

On this week's Wednesday night special, Glenn Beck exposed the true intent of the "1619 Project" and its creator, who justifies remaking America into a Marxist society. This clever lie is disguised as history, and it has already infiltrated our schools.

"The '1619 Project' desperately wants to pass itself off as legitimate history, but it totally kneecaps itself by ignoring so much of the American story. There's no mention of any black Americans who succeeded in spite of slavery, due to the free market capitalist system. In the 1619 Project's effort to take down America, black success stories are not allowed. Because they don't fit with the narrative. The role of white Americans in abolishing slavery doesn't fit the narrative either," Glenn said.

"The agenda is not ultimately about history," he added. "It's just yet another vehicle in the fleet now driven by elites in America toward socialism."

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