Jonah Goldberg on Post-election Results: The Living Will Envy the Dead

Jonah Goldberg, senior editor at National Review and author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change, joined The Glenn Beck Program on Tuesday to finish an earlier discussion about the future of the conservative movement. Glenn wanted Goldberg's opinion on two post-election scenarios --- a Trump presidency or a Clinton presidency --- and their impact on conservatism.

“I want to talk to you about 11/9, the day after the election," Glenn said. "We have such division in our country right now and in the conservative movement that I don't even know what it means anymore. What does the party do the day after the election and in the next year, let's say, first scenario, Donald Trump loses? What happens?"

Goldberg shared his views on the battle facing conservatives and also offered quick-witted insights on Hillary's recent health crisis: I really couldn't care less that she's got pneumonia. People get pneumonia. People get sick. The problem is how she handled it.

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HIGHLIGHTS OF GLENN’S CONVERSATION WITH JONAH GOLDBERG

On CollapseGate: If you're living a fearful, paranoid life, you do things in a way that seem really silly and paranoid and fearful and you think you must have something to hide. — Goldberg

It could be pneumonia, it could be Parkinson's, it could be allergies: They have a long history of avoiding the truth at all costs. How do we know she doesn't have Parkinson's or something else? — Glenn

Presidents, polio and the press: Thumb-sucking journalism school seminars have been talking about how a presidential candidate's health is a legitimate subject since FDR fooled the country about, you know, his polio. — Goldberg

Glenn's reaction to Goldberg speaking poorly about a progressive president: I expect better from you, the man who was taught me to hate Woodrow Wilson. — Glenn

Regarding a recent New York Times article on Hillary 6.0: Hillary Clinton has been reintroducing herself to the American public for 30 years. — Goldberg

On the #NeverEverForget movement: They will spend the rest of their lives trying to destroy anybody who stood against Donald Trump. — Glenn

Donald Trump's reported plan B to start a television network if he loses: Their goal is to destroy the conservative movement and the Republican Party and replace it with something sort of nationalistic that is sort of European-style nationalistic movement. — Goldberg

The Donald: All of the Donald Trump mini me's in these various primaries have done very, very badly which suggests that people really like Donald Trump, the individual, but his ideas and his ideology, such as they are, are not as popular as a lot of his biggest boosters claim. — Goldberg

The short answer on either Trump or Clinton winning: The living will envy the dead. — Goldberg

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POLL: What did YOU think about the 2nd GOP presidential debate?

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Wednesday was a big night for the Republican presidential candidates during the second GOP debate... OR WAS IT?

Glenn wasn't impressed with the debate. In fact, he went as far as to say it was the worst Presidential debate BY FAR he had ever seen for THIS reason: NO ONE discussed the major issues that Americans are actually facing.

Inflation has doubled Americans' grocery bills. Gas is nearing a historic record of $100/barrel. We have DOUBLED our national deficit. Bidenomics and the globalists' green agenda pose an existential threat to core American industries while we continue to fund the Ukrainian people's pensions and small businesses. It is as if our government has forgotten the American people.

It is as if our government has forgotten the American people.

Do YOU think the candidates hit the mark during the second GOP debate? Do you support Trump's decision to skip two debates in a row? Let us know in the poll below!

Do you think the 2nd GOP debate was overall positive?

Did the candidates debate issues you are concerned about?

Do you think the "real" debate was between Trump and Biden in Michigan?

Do you think any of the other GOP candidates can beat Trump? 

Do you think Trump can beat Biden? 

Do you think any other candidate besides Trump can beat Biden?

Do you think it was a mistake for Trump to miss the first debate?

Do you think it was a mistake for Trump to miss the second debate?

COVID is back! Or that is what we’re being told anyway...

A recent spike in COVID cases has triggered the left's alarm bells, and the following institutions have begun to reinstate COVID-era mandates. You might want to avoid them if you enjoy breathing freely...

Do YOU think institutions should bring back COVID-era mandates if cases increase? Let us know your thoughts HERE.

Morris Brown College

Both of Upstate Medical's hospitals in Syracuse, New York

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Auburn Community Hospital, New York

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United Health Services in New York

Kaiser Permanente in California

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There was a time when both the Left and the Right agreed that parents have the final say in raising their children... Not anymore.

In the People's Republic of California, the STATE, not parents, will determine whether children should undergo transgender treatments. The California state legislature just passed a law that will require judges in child custody cases to consider whether parents support a child’s gender transition. According to the law, the state now thinks total affirmation is an integral part of a child’s “health, safety, and welfare.”

We are inching closer to a dystopia where the state, not the parents, have ultimate rights over their children, a history that people from former Soviet nations would feign repeating.

Glenn dove into the law AND MORE in this episode titled, "Parental Advisory: The EXPLICIT plot to control YOUR kids." To get all the research that went into this episode AND information on how YOU can fight back, enter your email address below:

If you didn't catch Wednesday night's Glenn TV special, be sure to check it out HERE!

The Biden admin has let in MORE illegal aliens than the populations of THESE 15 states

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There are currently an estimated 16.8 MILLION illegal aliens residing in the United States as of June 2023, according to the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). This number is already 1.3 million higher than FAIR's January 2022 estimate of 15.5 million and a 2.3 million increase from its end-of-2020 estimate. Even Democrats like New York City's Mayor Adams Mayor Adams are waking up to what Conservatives have been warning for years: we are in a border CRISIS.

However, this isn't the same border crisis that Republicans were warning about back in 2010. In the first two years of the Biden administration alone, the illegal alien population increased by 16 PERCENT nationwide, imposing a whopping net cost of $150.6 BILLION PER YEAR on American taxpayers. That is nearly DOUBLE the total amount that the Biden administration has sent to Ukraine.

This isn't the same border crisis that Republicans were warning about back in 2010.

These large numbers often make it difficult to conceptualize the sheer impact of illegal immigration on the United States. To put it in perspective, we have listed ALL 15 states and the District of Colombia that have smaller populations than the 2.3 MILLION illegal immigrants, who have entered the U.S. under the Biden administration. That is more than the entire populations of Wyoming, Vermont, and South Dakota COMBINED—and the American taxpayers have to pay the price.

Here are all 16 states/districts that have FEWER people than the illegal immigrants who have entered the U.S. under the Biden administration.

1. New Mexico

Population: 2,110,011

2. Idaho

Population: 1,973,752

3. Nebraska

Population: 1,972,292

4. West Virginia

Population: 1,764,786

5. Hawaii

Population: 1,433,238

6. New Hampshire

Population: 1,402,957

7. Maine

Population: 1,393,442

8. Montana

Population: 1,139,507

9. Rhode Island

Population: 1,090,483

10. Delaware

Population: 1,031,985

11. South Dakota

Population: 923,484

12. North Dakota

Population: 780,588

13. Alaska

Population: 732,984

14. Washington DC

Population: 674,815

15. Vermont

Population: 647,156

16. Wyoming

Population: 583,279