What can we learn from the Brexit vote? Some believe it was a come-from-behind victory, and provides a sign post for a Trump win in November. But is that flawed thinking?
"Leading up to the Brexit vote, there were 34 polls taken. In those polls, three of them were tied. "Remain" --- stay in the European Union --- won 14 of the polls. And "leave," the one that actually wound up winning, won 17 polls. So actually, it was a very tight toss-up election with a slight advantage to leave, okay? It was not some crazy last minute victory for leaving the European Union," Co-host Stu Burguiere said.
While some polls say Clinton is ahead, many say Trump has the advantage --- and the sources have everything to do with the perspective. Additionally, with voters on both sides having serious doubts about their candidate, the outcome is anything but certain.
"If that's true on both sides, then they'll probably cancel each other out," Glenn said.
Read below or watch the clip for answers to these alternate questions:
• Why do Breitbart and Drudge Report point to the Brexit vote as an optimistic sign for a Trump win?
• Did the betting markets believe that "remain" or "leave" would win in Europe?
• Should you take time before the election to figure out which alternate universe provides your sources?
Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors:
GLENN: Right now, I want to talk a little bit about Brexit. I asked Stu a couple days ago to look at the truth behind Brexit. Because everybody said that was a surprise. And I don't remember that being a surprise.
STU: Right. And this kind of goes back to what we talked about earlier with the Newt Gingrich/Megyn Kelly thing. I mean, it can go back and forth. And they were yelling -- Newt was yelling at her about how she's fascinated with sex. And, you know, there's controversy on both sides of that. But the most important part of that entire interview to me was Gingrich saying something completely true, which is, there are currently two alternate universes when it comes to these campaigns.
STU: I mean, if you go -- if you live and bounce back and forth between Drudge and Breitbart and other sites and shows, you're going to see a situation which is laid out for you, that this is a -- I mean, Trump is winning. The polls are showing he's winning. You know, it's surprising to see anything that would favor Clinton.
I mean, I think Drudge today is featuring three polls, two of which have Clinton winning. The third one is the LA Times poll, I think. But he's only showing you the three polls where it's very close.
There are -- this month, there have been 24 polls -- 25 polls taken of the race between Clinton and Trump. And Hillary Clinton is winning 24 of those polls. Twenty-four of 25. The only one that Trump was winning was one day on the Rasmussen reports poll which he was winning by two. And he's currently losing that poll.
PAT: If you were to look at the Drudge Report, it looks like he's winning by a lot. Because it says, Trump pops Florida, which I don't know what that means. Up four in Ohio. Pulls to within three in Pennsylvania.
And then you scroll down to the poll watch. IDD: Clinton plus only one. LA Times: Trump plus one. Rasmussen: Clinton plus one. So the only ones to ever highlight are the ones that look good for Trump.
GLENN: It is two parallel universes.
STU: Alternate universes.
PAT: It is. It is.
STU: So you should take time before the election and figure out what universe your sources are from.
GLENN: You are living.
STU: Because I think there are two alternate universes. There are some that say Clinton is ahead. There are some that say that Trump is ahead. Which universe are you listening to, and which one is going to be right? I mean, you'll have to look at that yourself. We could have a huge swing in the election or whatever.
But one of the big arguments is, which is a strange argument, is the Brexit argument. Because Drudge will say Brexit, Brexit, Brexit. Trump will say Brexit, Brexit, Brexit. Breitbart will say Brexit, Brexit, Brexit. And the idea you're supposed to get is this idea that Brexit and the leave vote -- leaving the European Union was way behind and the polls were all wrong and it wound up the other way around, that leave one and they pulled out.
First of all, if you're on these sites and they're only showing you polls where Trump is winning or within one point, it would be a surprise at all if Trump won. So you wouldn't need the Brexit argument. It makes no sense whatsoever.
But the Brexit argument in and of itself is flawed. As I said, there's been 25 polls in the month leading up to this election that have been taken. Twenty-four of the 25 have been Clinton favorites.
That is not the case at all with Brexit. Leading up in the last month, leading up to the Brexit vote, there were 34 polls taken. Thirty-four polls. In those polls, there were three of them that were tied. Remain the -- stay in the European Union. Won 14 of the polls. And leave, the one that actually wound up winning, won 17 polls. So actually, it was a very tight toss-up election with a slight advantage to leave, okay? It was not some crazy last minute victory for leaving the European Union. It was a surprise to a lot of people. And I think what a lot of people are complaining here are the betting markets. The betting markets believed that in the end remain would win, that they would stay in the European Union.
GLENN: Because they thought it was corrupt.
STU: And I think the betting markets thought in the end, people are talking trash, but in the end, they're going to wind up coming back home. Okay?
GLENN: See, if I were betting, I would bet the exact opposite right now. That people are saying, nah, just -- you know, but in the end, they're going to look at their life, and they're going to say, I can't take anymore of this. I want somebody to blow it up.
STU: And that may be the case. There are two arguments to that. There are a lot of people who make the argument Trump is entertaining. Trump is fun. But do I really want him running my country? And I'm not even talking about Republicans. I'm talking about moderates and people who wouldn't typically agree with building walls and such. They might like Trump and his attitude, but in reality --
GLENN: And if that's true on both sides, then they'll probably cancel each other out.
Featured Image: In this photo illustration, the words 'IN' and 'OUT' are depicted on mugs on March 17, 2016 in London, United Kingdom. The United Kingdom will hold a referendum on June 23, 2016 to decide whether or not to remain a member of the European Union (EU), an economic and political partnership involving 28 European countries which allows members to trade together in a single market and free movement across its borders for citizens. (Photo by Dan Kitwood/Getty Images)