This is no laughing matter. There couldn't possibly be anyone on planet earth who despises Woodrow Wilson, our esteemed 28th president, more than Glenn Beck. He's made his case for hating the progressive, racist the past 10 years. Yet such a claim was made immediately following his interview with Samantha Bee, host of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee on TBS.
"I walked to the edge of the stage and her --- I think her show runner or her line producer --- came up to me and said, I want you to know, I think I hate Woodrow Wilson more than you do. And I said, What?!" Glenn described Thursday, the day following the interview. "She said, Oh, my gosh, he was the most evil SOB ever."
And get this, she wasn't alone. Another staffer came up and echoed those sentiments.
"Another guy comes up, and he says, It's so great to meet you. I'm in your club with Woodrow Wilson." Glenn said.
If this doesn't provide a glimmer of hope for finding common ground, nothing will.
Read below or watch the clip for answers to these questions:
• Why did Glenn stop his second interview with Samantha?
• What's the real reason Samantha wanted to become an American?
• What's the X-factor that makes America special?
• How are Glenn and Samantha similar?
• Could Samantha be a closet conservative?
Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors:
GLENN: You guys have not asked me a thing about Samantha Bee.
STU: Yeah. She was on the show yesterday.
GLENN: I was with her all day. She was here all day. You guys were peeking in the windows.
STU: Oh, I was hiding in my office. I didn't peek out at all.
PAT: We were actually doing a shoot yesterday. But I think you have to know a little something about person in order to be that curious about her. I don't know very much about her.
STU: She's on The Daily Show, right?
GLENN: She's on The Daily Show. She was the main reporter on The Daily Show with Stephen Colbert. With Jon Stewart -- but Stephen Colbert, at the time that he was also a reporter.
PAT: We do know that she's very liberal.
GLENN: She's Canada. She's from Canada.
PAT: Yeah. But how did it go? Was the interview --
GLENN: I'll tell you, it was -- so you remember -- on yesterday's episode here, we didn't really say anything. I was more willing to say things because she was in my space.
GLENN: And so I was willing to ask her questions, and she was like, "You know, yeah. Okay." Because she just didn't know if there was going to be a setup. Or, you know, she didn't know what she was walking into.
STU: I mean, that's how she should be, walking into those moments.
GLENN: She's smart.
And then when the show was over, I walked to the edge of the stage and her -- I think her show runner or her line producer --
JEFFY: Yeah, the show runner.
GLENN: -- came up to me and said, "I want you to know, I think I hate Woodrow Wilson more than you do." And I said, "What?"
JEFFY: No, you don't. That's not possible.
GLENN: And I said, "That's impossible in the first place. But you hate Woodrow Wilson?" She said, "Oh, my gosh, he was the most evil SOB ever." And I said, "I can't -- you're with the show?"
PAT: Did she only hate him because of his racism?
GLENN: No, no. All of it. All of it.
GLENN: She knew all of it.
PAT: Is she conservative?
GLENN: No. I don't think so. I didn't talk politics yesterday. We did talk Woodrow Wilson.
She said, "Hey, I'm not alone. Come here." Another guy comes up. And he says, "It's so great to meet you." He said, "I am in your club with Woodrow Wilson."
And I thought at first, "This is a setup. Nobody -- I mean, I said to him, "I can't get conservatives to hate Woodrow Wilson. How do you guys just higgledy-piggledy stumble in and you hate Woodrow Wilson?" And they said, "Oh, no. Worst guy ever." Turns out her show runner was an American historian in school. And she up and down, back and forth, she knows American history.
So we hit it really well. In the interview with Samantha Bee, she hates Woodrow Wilson.
Now, I don't -- I didn't go in-depth because we were on the interview. So I didn't go in-depth, but she hates him because he was a real racist. I don't know if she knows anymore about him.
But, anyway, so I went and I was starting to do her show. And we got about 20 minutes into it. And I just stopped. And I said, "This isn't going well." And she said, "Why?"
And I said, "Because you have show face on." I said, "We were talking beforehand, and the minute the cameras were rolling -- because she was facing all the camera people and all of the producers -- and the minute the cameras were rolling, I could tell when they were rolling because your face changed." She said, "I don't have show face." And I said, "You absolutely have show face. I'm not stupid. I do television. I know what show face is." And I said -- and she said, "Well, what does that mean?"
JEFFY: It's for show.
GLENN: And I said, "It's your show. And I know your style." And you are like, "So -- well, what does that mean, exactly?"
I know exactly what you're doing. You're editing it, and so you have the funny line, and I'm the butt of the joke. And this isn't what we agreed to.
GLENN: And it's not what I -- this is not helpful to me. Because what you're going to do is you're going to, A, piss off the audience of mine that like me. And then they'll be mad at your audience because they're laughing at me. And so there's more division.
GLENN: And on top of it, you will also have my audience say, "What the hell, we could have told you that was happening, dummy. Why are you even talking to her?"
PAT: Yeah. And her audience hates you anyway. So...
GLENN: Right. And I said that to her. I said, "Your audience already hates me. Why don't you do something new?"
GLENN: And so she said, "I really thought this was going well." And I said, "Well, I didn't." She said, "So where do we go?"
And so we just had a conversation. And it lasted from that point about an hour. I was four hours behind schedule yesterday because of -- because of the time we had together.
And it changed when I asked her, "Why are you an American?" Because she's Canadian. And this was the first election she could vote in. And I said, "Why are you American? Why did you choose America? What's wrong with Canada? It's like the 51st state." She said, "I love my country of Canada."
STU: Didn't she also say I didn't necessarily want to say this -- so I just want to classify as you're about to say it on the air --
JEFFY: Thank you.
GLENN: Now I can't say anything because I was going to leave out the things that she didn't want aired. But it was nothing bad. It just -- I was going to leave some of that out. But now I can't say anything -- now I'm in an awkward situation. Now what do I --
STU: I'm trying to save you from another awkward situation that you've been in many, many times.
GLENN: I know. I know.
She understands -- I sent this to her last night in my Facebook post about her love for the country. What she -- how she loves America -- and this is nothing about her country.
STU: No, no.
GLENN: She loves Canada.
PAT: Well, it's the curling capital of the world.
GLENN: Shut up.
She said, "There's something about the American spirit that you don't find anywhere else."
STU: Yeah, we've heard that from Daniel Hannan. Who loves England.
GLENN: Yes. Loves England. Everybody -- it's not a slam on their country.
STU: Right. Of course. Of course.
PAT: Right. Right.
JEFFY: Clearly we like Canada, we have one of their sports celebrities on the broadcast.
STU: Thank you, Jeffy.
PAT: That's right.
GLENN: So she said, "Americans -- there's this flame about America that you -- you help each other, and it's just -- it's different." She said, "America is -- or, she said, "Canada, I could have lived there my whole life and could have been happy, and it's great. But there's something -- an X factor in America." And when she's talking about that, I'm like, "Yes. Yes. Yes." Now, we didn't get to this part in our conversation, but hopefully we will. That's called a lack of socialism.
GLENN: That is called personal responsibility.
GLENN: That X factor is created -- and, again, don't tell her -- let me break it to her slowly, that X factor is the personal responsibility of people saying, "I've got to do something for my neighbor."
PAT: When the government doesn't do everything, the responsibility falls to us, right? It's our responsibility to begin with.
GLENN: Now, I assume -- we didn't talk about politics -- I assume she likes all the big government socialism stuff of Canada. I'm assuming she likes all of that.
GLENN: But what she said about America -- I said to her, "You realize you're describing de Tocqueville." I said, "What makes America great? What is it that makes America great?" Assuming she knew the phrase, well, America is good. She didn't. She's Canadian. She didn't know. She didn't know who de Tocqueville was.
And I said, "Why is America great?" Because she said, "How do we fix this problem?" And I said, "It's really simply. What made America great?" And she said, "I -- I have to say it's that the people here are really kind. And no matter where you go and no matter what they believe, they want to help each other, and they -- they hold on to each other. And nobody sits back. They see somebody in need, and they go." And I said, "In other words, America is great because America is good?"
Yes, Samantha Bee -- and I told her, I broke it to her, I said, "I hate to break it to you, but you're sounding like me."
And she said, "Oh, no, don't say that to me."
And I said, "Let me ask you a few questions: You know how to fix it, make America good."
Yes, that's me.
Are you suddenly afraid that maybe the president of the United could become a dictator?
Hmm. That sounded like me. Are you suddenly worried that maybe a president could do something that could affect the economy and we could have a huge global economic crash?
Oh, that sounds like me.
GLENN: It's amazing how liberals have suddenly found these things, but want to stake out, "Well, you thought them about Barack Obama." Yeah, I did. And now you think about them about Donald Trump.
PAT: And, by the way, they were true about Barack Obama. It's not like he's been exonerated from all the things we were worried about. He was as bad as we feared. I mean, he did --
GLENN: No, he's not as bad as I feared. Come on --
PAT: We survived him.
PAT: We really didn't --
GLENN: Right. And we didn't believe that there would be prison camps, but some people believed --
PAT: However, he fundamentally did transform the United States of America in a bad way.
GLENN: Oh, yeah, he did. In our opinion, in a very bad way. In their opinion, in a very good way. And that's why they're so freaked out about Donald Trump. Because they think he'll reverse all of that and transform it just as much in the other direction.
STU: And before we go too far in all this talk about survival, the guy is still in office. We should remember that.
GLENN: Yeah. I know. I know. Well, I've heard -- I've read at USAToday.com.co.ca.au.
PAT: There will be no inauguration.
GLENN: There will be no inauguration.
STU: What! Oh, my gosh. And I believe it immediately.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. He's going to declare marshal law before January 1st.
PAT: I've already checked that through Snopes, by the way, and the FBI confirmed it.
GLENN: So Snopes.com.ca.eu.
GLENN: So, anyway, we had a really good time not talking about politics, but finding things that we agree on that were big principles. Like -- we went through the Bill of Rights. She didn't -- I didn't specifically call out the Second Amendment. But I said, "Do you agree with the Bill of Rights?" And she said, "Yes."
And I gave her -- I said, "I'm going to give you the Second Amendment. I'm going to give you the Second Amendment, that maybe you don't agree on that one. And we can argue about that one. How about the other nine? They're all good, right?"
I was actually for the Patriot Act, and then I woke up and I'm like, "Good Lord, how stupid was I, during the Bush administration." And then I was against it. And I was against with George Bush and against it under Barack Obama.
The left was only against it under George Bush. Barack Obama expanded it. And this president -- and it would have been any president, I think, unless it were a strong constitutionalist, they're going to expand it again. Why don't we stand on that one?
She couldn't -- she -- I think she came in with a whole different attitude and left with a different one. And I have great hope that we will maybe never agree on policies or vote the same way, but we can demonstrate that America can be good doing it together with people who strongly disagree with each other. I like her.
STU: That's cool. And she's on -- that's the 19th that airs.
GLENN: December 19th.
Featured Image: Samantha Bee, host of 'Full Frontal with Samantha Bee' on TBS on 'The Glenn Beck Program', December 8, 2016.