GLENNFebruary 07, 2017

Sen. Mike Lee: Neil Gorsuch Is an 'Extraordinary Judge'

President Trump's Supreme Court pick, Judge Neil Gorsuch, is the kind of person that gets lawyers waxing poetic. Just ask Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) who joined The Glenn Beck Program on Tuesday.

"He's a dream to argue in front of because he's the kind of judge who reads all the briefs and reads all the statutes and all the cases cited in the briefs. He's always prepared. He knows exactly where he's going," Sen. Lee said.

Senator Lee went so far as to say Gorsuch's briefs are interesting and fun to read.

"Let's just clarify. That is Mike Lee that just said these are fun to read. So, kids, don't rush out there. It's Mike saying that," Glenn joked.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: Senator Mike Lee, welcome to the program, sir. How are you?

MIKE: Doing well. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: Can we start with -- quickly on the Muslim ban and whether that is legal or not? What is your opinion?

MIKE: The short answer is, the president has authority to suspend the entry of certain aliens coming into this country. He has that authority, under section 212F of the immigration and nationality act.

Now, there's an amendment to that that came about several decades after that one was put in place that some have read to suggest the president can't do this. But when you read the language on that one, it deals with visa issuance, not suspension on entry. And it deals with visa issuance by those who issue visas, not by the president.

That's why, on its face, I can't look at this order and say it's illegal. That's why the order to the extent it causes legal problems, will present legal problems, only in the way it's enforced.

In other words, we'll have to wait and see how this thing is implied, how it's interpreted, how it's actually utilized on the ground, before we can say it violates the law.

GLENN: Poorly written, Mike? Is that the problem?

MIKE: Not ideally. The rollout was suboptimal. The draftsmanship could have been better. But, look, these are people who have got a lot on their plate. And I understand that. That's why I hope they get the implementation right. Because if they get the implementation right, I think it will be okay.

GLENN: What did this judge up in Washington -- is he right at all?

MIKE: You know, I read his temporary restraining order. And it's been a long time since I've seen an order like that, that dealt with an issue of this magnitude with so few words. And I don't mean that in a complimentary way. What I mean is it lacks analysis. It is full of what I call conclusory assertions, where the judge just sort of found that the basis in law existed for him to issue this temporary restraining order. And so he did. But it was very short on legal analysis.

GLENN: So they're making this into a big deal because, well, he was appointed by George Bush. And so, George Bush, of course, you know, how could you possibly go against a George Bush judge?

MIKE: You know, Glenn, if I had a nickel for every bad decision made by a Republican-appointed judge or Supreme Court justice, I'd be a very wealthy man.

GLENN: Yeah.

MIKE: The fact that someone is put on a court by a Republican means absolutely nothing, in terms of his indelibility (phonetic).

PAT: Mike, real quick, before we get into the crux of this. There's a new poll out about Democrats that are concerned about Christians and Mormons being just as violent --

GLENN: And Jews.

PAT: And Jews. Just as violent as Islam. What are you doing to curb the Mormon violence in this country? Are you drafting any kind of legislation?

MIKE: Yeah, it's a big problem.

PAT: It is. It is.

MIKE: I would -- look, Mormons are known for their violent tendencies.

GLENN: Right.

MIKE: The bicycles -- the bicycles and the short-sleeved shirts with ties strikes fear on the part of all who behold. It's a big problem.

GLENN: So, Mike, 63 percent of all Democrats --

PAT: Sixty-six.

GLENN: Sixty-six feel that's true. Two-thirds of all Democrats feel that Christians, Jews, and Mormons are just as dangerous as Islamic terrorists.

PAT: Unbelievable.

MIKE: Wow. That's interesting, especially given that it would be difficult to find doctrine to support that.

PAT: Yep.

MIKE: It would be difficult to find actual statistics to support that.

One of the reasons why I find this most disturbing is that it strikes this term of moral equivalency, which I think causes a whole lot of problems. It -- there's no such thing as bad or good -- bad or worse than bad. It's just stuff people do.

And I am very curious about that study and how they reached those conclusions.

GLENN: It scares the hell out of me. Because it seems to me that we are living in a time where facts don't matter at all, to anybody, on either side.

MIKE: You know, they do matter to the reader. I think there are a lot of readers out there and a lot of people who listen to your program, a lot of people who actually are willing to dig beneath the surface who care. It's not always the case, that reporting those facts case. So when the people care, those who report facts that are not ringing true, can be held accountable. I think that's what we have to do.

GLENN: All right. Talk to me a little bit about Gorsuch. You met with him last -- what was it? Thursday or Friday. What did you think of him?

MIKE: Love the guy. Just fantastic judge.

Look, I already had a high opinion of him because I've argued in front of him. I was a lawyer before I became a politician.

GLENN: I argue in front of my children, and I don't necessarily have a lot of respect for them.

MIKE: This guy is good though. This guy is good. But I just highlighted two of the reasons of why -- I chose two hated professions. First lawyer and then politician. You know, I'm not sure how it could get worse than that.

But in any event, he's a great judge. He's a dream to argue in front of because he's the kind of judge who reads all the briefs and reads all the statutes and all the cases cited in the briefs. He's always prepared. He knows exactly where he's going. And he believes that our laws matter and the words used matter. And he wants to find the meaning of those words.

But then in the last few days, I've been reading a whole lot of Gorsuch. I've spent hours upon hours, reading Gorsuch opinions.

And so far, I have yet to find a bad opinion among them. This is -- this is an extraordinary judge.

His opinions, if you can believe it, are actually interesting. They're fun to read, in addition to the fact that they seem to follow the right approach very consistently, with an eye toward finding out what the law says.

GLENN: Let's just clarify. That is Mike Lee that just said these are fun to read. So, kids, don't rush out there. It's Mike saying that.

What are the odds of him getting confirmed?

MIKE: We intend to get him confirmed. And I expect we will get him confirmed.

GLENN: Without the nuclear option?

MIKE: Well, there is no reason why we necessarily have to use the nuclear option. And I think most or all of us would prefer not to. It's not clear that we'll have to, to begin with. You know, I do think that at least one Democrat will make sure that we have to get cloture, if they can. And that requires 60 votes, to bring the debate to a close.

I think it's possible that we could get those 60 votes. If we don't, there are a couple of options at our disposal, only one of which involves the use of the nuclear option.

There's another one called Rule 19, the so-called two speech rule that allows to us bypass cloture when we stay in the legislative day until everyone who wants to speak has had a chance to do so and then we go directly to the final vote, which is set at 51.

Look, this is terribly boring, arcane stuff. This from a guy who loves to read Gorsuch opinions.

GLENN: No. He loves them. Says they're fun.

MIKE: Yes, yes, they are fun. The Gorsuch opinions are fun. Rule 19 is not fun. It's quite arcane. But it's useful here. And I think it might give us a path to confirming Judge Gorsuch without deploying the nuclear option.

PAT: Mike, if you had to compare him to a sitting or former judge, who -- who would he mostly closely compare to? Would it be Scalia? Would it be Alito? Kennedy?

MIKE: I'd say he's sort of a blend between Justice Alito, my former boss, and justices Scalia and Thomas, which is exactly what we want.

PAT: Yeah.

MIKE: I had hoped the president would nominate someone in that mold. And as far as I can tell, he appears to be in that mold. This is a guy who really believes deeply that we need to follow certain principles in the law.

He's deeply wedded to textualism, the idea that the laws consist of words. The words have meaning, and you have to find out what those words mean.

And originalism, which is the idea that in order to understand the Constitution, it's important to go back and understand how the words in the Constitution were used at the time they were put in there, at the time they were drafted and ratified.

STU: As someone, Mike, who is really interested in the Gorsuch opinions, can you help -- because speaking of the Scalia comparisons, one interesting place where they seem to split, and it seems that Gorsuch is better than Scalia on, is this idea -- this Chevron deference, where we're talking about basically giving deference to federal agencies -- can you explain that and make it a slightly less boring than it sounds?

MIKE: Yes. First of all, I'm thrilled, I'm ecstatic that I get do explain Chevron deference.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. People are pulling over.

PAT: Chevron deference. I can't go to work yet!

GLENN: I'm about to wet my pants, I'm so excited.

MIKE: Okay. So Chevron deference is this legal doctrine created out of whole cloth by the devil himself within the federal court system.

And it says that the courts, rather than doing their own thinking, are just going to defer to executive branch, bureaucratic agencies, when they interpret a regulation developed by that agency. In other words, hello, Mr. Fox, here are the keys to the henhouse. Please enjoy it.

That's what we do.

Now, for reasons that astound me, for reasons that sometimes allow me to argue with Justice Scalia, when I go to dinner with him, that is a doctrine that doesn't make sense. And yet, Justice Scalia wanted it in one way or another.

Judge Gorsuch appears to have real concerns, with Chevron deference. And he pointed out that this is a doctrine that runs against the doctrine of separation of powers embedded deeply in the Constitution. And I just -- I had a huge grin on my face when I was reading that opinion. It was fantastic.

STU: It essentially means if the EPA has regulation and there's disagreement about it, the legal system just says, "Eh, ask the EPA what they meant."

JEFFY: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. And if other people disagree with the EPA's interpretation of what it meant, they say, ask the EPA. And whatever the EPA says stands, stands. And that's a problem, that's really a big problem.

GLENN: Yeah. So, Mike, help me out on this, I have -- I don't have a problem necessarily with some of the direction that this president is taking.

MIKE: Oh. I was afraid you were going to tell me you didn't have a problem with Chevron.

GLENN: No.

I know. The controversy. People would have been fighting across the country over this.

STU: Mike Lee was actually legitimately excited to answer the Chevron deference question.

GLENN: I know. I know. God bless him. God bless him.

MIKE: Who wouldn't be? Who wouldn't be?

GLENN: So, Mike, my problem has been with the lack of concern on the number of -- of executive orders that are being issued. Do you have a problem with the -- with the system that we're using here with this president? Is it any different, or is it just my perception?

MIKE: It's not now. And never has been and never will be, the number of executive orders that are a problem.

I said this repeatedly throughout the eight years of President Obama's presidency. It's not the number that matters. It's the nature of the executive order, how they're used. It's whether or not they're used in a manner authorized by law.

GLENN: Right. So are these executive orders falling in line with what is authorized?

MIKE: So far, the executive orders on their face don't fly in the face of the law. So far, these executive orders could be implemented in a manner fully consistent with the law.

Now, that doesn't mean that all executive orders this president issues will necessarily, going forward, fall into that category. But I haven't seen one yet that I look at and say, "He doesn't have authority to do that."

GLENN: Oh, that's really good.

STU: That's great news.

MIKE: Yeah.

There are some ambiguities in this order we were talking about earlier. There is some language in there, that depending on how it's implemented could cause a problem. That's why I'm watching that one carefully.

GLENN: Like what?

MIKE: Okay.

You're going to yell at me for getting into this level of detail, but there -- there are subsequently enacted provisions of the immigration code --

GLENN: Hold on just a second.

Jeffy, assuming you're awake by the end of this, wake me so I can yell at him for getting into the weeds. Go ahead, Mike. What now?

MIKE: They can be read to restrict any type of effort on the part of the president to deal with the visa issuance program -- process. Depending on how the courts interpret that, that could end up creating a problem.

Likewise, depending on how they interpret this, this could cause other problems. I don't want to get into all the details of that. I don't want to pick any fights that the administration doesn't need picked.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: People are like, "Oh. Go back to Chevron deference on that one."

GLENN: One last question: Mitt Romney said he won't rule anything out, but he won't rule anything in yet. He's not sure if Orrin Hatch is going to run for Senate. How do you feel about your partner being possibly Mitt Romney?

MIKE: You know, look, Mitt Romney is a great guy. Not ruling anything in, not ruling anything out describes the entire context of the Utah Senate race coming up in 2018. Nobody knows what the heck is going on. Nobody knows who is running and who isn't.

I have absolutely no idea how to predict this thing. So I don't know what to say. I think people, before they decide they're going to get in, kind of like having their name floated out there. And they enjoy the process a lot. Sometimes that causes the process to drag out too far.

But we still don't know whether Senator Hatch is going to seek reelection. And I suspect that would strongly influence whether or not Mitt Romney decides to get in.

GLENN: Hey, do you have a second to hang on for one more -- or do you have to run?

MIKE: Hey, for you, anything. You let me talk about Chevron deference.

GLENN: I know. I know. You owe us. You owe the whole nation for that.

RADIO

Could this EVIL bill turn New York into a culture of DEATH?

"Are you part of a culture of death, or a culture of life?" Glenn Beck exposes a new lawmaker-approved bill in New York that puts death over life in the name of "compassion" amid the loneliness epidemic.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: When you look at everything that is going on. The choice in front of us is so clear. And it is so easy to make.

It's just, which do you just, life or death? Life or death? Are you part of a culture of death or life?

Are you fighting for life in all of its forms? Or are you fighting for death in all of its forms?

And it's really clear to see which side is which. It really is.

You know, isn't that what God said, when the Israelites went into the Promised Land.

Choose life!

Isn't that what lakai (phonetic) means? Delight, delight. I think it is. Choose life. I don't know. Everything I learned about Hebrew, I learned from fiddler on the roof.

But that's a different story. Not exactly true, but almost true.

True in this case! Anyway, you have to choose life!

And the left is becoming more and more about death! In every way. Today, the more enlightened left. I mean, the more enlightened they become, the more left the doctrine. The more barbaric it actually becomes.

We've seen it on the streets of LA, right?

Look at that. That's not about life. That's about destruction of everything. According to their doctrine, the left believes that the only -- you know, that -- that not doing a thing to police, illegal immigration.

Is the only solution to compassionate, you know, service.

You know, you just can't do anything about it. That way, we're compassionate. And we're loving. And we're handling the situation. Okay?

And you can't do anything about it. And if not, well, we're going to prove how compassionate and loving we are, through mob violence. And arson and theft. And assaulting officers. It doesn't make any sense. Let alone standing up for the people who have -- who have horribly raped 14-year-old children.

I don't understand. How are you doing that?

How is that choosing life at all?

Now, in New York, things are even worse. In the legislature, where the people's representatives have passed a bill to make it easier for people to kill themselves.

The US Surgeon General's office calls loneliness and isolation in America an epidemic. How many people do you know that have either killed themselves or have had their children almost kill themselves?

I don't think I can count them on two hands. My mother killed herself when I was a child, and she was the only one I had ever heard of doing that except at TV shows and movies.

Now it's an epidemic. Yet, New York is choosing to declare open season on anybody vulnerable.

This bill is assisted suicide. And it is dressed up as always, as compassion.

But it's not mercy. It is absolute madness.

It's now sitting on the governor's desk of New York. Kathy Hochul. Waiting for her signature to make it law. But this bill is an absolute nightmare.

It requires no waiting period, after the first -- after the person's first request to die.

So, in other words, hey, I've got some bad news for you. You have cancer. Oh, and it's probably untreatable. Oh. I just -- I just want to die. Okay.

No waiting period. Nurse, can we bring that in?

No waiting period. Somebody who has a term I believe diagnosis, one day, can be handed the lethal cocktail the very next day.

Unlike -- unlike other states that are at least nodding to some other health evaluations, you know. No. New York will just check, make sure that it's an informed decision. What you know they're saying? Right? You want to kill yourself? Yeah, I do.

Okay. Good. You're informed.

I mean, when people are staring death and depression in the face, despair and depression clouds everything. You don't make a decision, when you're like that. And as somebody who has had major depression when I was young, you -- it is insane!

It's insanity.

And as somebody who was older, who has -- I mean, this week, my back has been so bad.

I went to my doctor, and I said, I can't live this way. I just -- I can't walk.

I can barely breathe. I just can't live this way. And I didn't mean I want to kill myself.

But I understand how people can get there. I get that. But is that who we are? Is that as a society, is that who we are?

I mean, it's crazy. You know, since when is the left concerned about patience being informed.

They don't want a woman who is considering an abortion to see an ultrasound of their baby.

I don't know.

Is that informed consent?

One guy, he's a bio ethicist from Washington State.

He's tracked these laws down for 40 years.

New York bill.

The bill in New York.

It's probably the worst law of its kind in the US.

What a surprise, their last governor, was killing people in nursing homes.
The language that is in this bill. The lies are disgusting.

They call prescribing poison, a quote, medical practice.

And the poison is medication.

Now, listen to this: It also prohibits referring to this practice, as suicide.

Hmm!

In the worst part of this bill, and remember, we're talking about killing people.

This shows you how they know they're lying.

Even when I write out the death certificate of a person who dies, through assisted suicide, you were only allowed to list the person's underlying condition or illness as the official cause of death. You cannot say it had anything to do with suicide or any medical aid in dying.

So if I have cancer, and I'm not going to treat it, and I just want to die.

If I have depression, I just want to die. I would die of depression or cancer.

You know what that does?

That hides the actual stats. It hides the crime. You won't be able to track, how bad is this getting?

They're trying to memory hole suicide. Making doctors lie about it. No!

Helping doctors lie about it.

I'm sorry. If you're a doctor. And you are going along with this. And you're not standing up. Where is your Hippocratic oath?

First, do no harm.

Are you kidding me?

Abortion, you excuse that. Now we're going to get on the other side and excuse that. And you don't even have to medically evaluate the person.

And then you cover it up. Wow!

New York State has been, you know, developing this culture of death, since 1970.

Three years before Roe vs. Wade they were doing it. More than half a century of month pro--choice messaging.

It greased the slippery slope. And we're now at the bottom of it.

According to the left, the compassionate thing, toward a pregnant woman is to allow her to kill her unborn child, that's just the short jump to assisted suicide being considered the compassionate way out for the terminally ill or mentally ill. After all, it's my body, my choice.

Right?

Dr. Lydia Dugdale, she's from the Columbia Presbyterian Hospital, New York City. She wrote an op-ed last month. And she said, this is not compassionate policy.

Instead of investing in the infrastructure of support for the lonely, the depressed, the disabled, and the poor. We just offered them a prescription for death. And we call it autonomy. But it's nothing, but abandonment. The art of dying well cannot be severed from the art of living well.

And that includes caring for one another, especially when it's hard, when it's inconvenient or costly. It's not enough to offer the dying control. We have to offer them dignity.

And not by affirming their despair. But by affirming their worth!

Life is worth it!

She went on to say, even when they're suffering.

Even when they're vulnerable. Even when they are in worldly terms, a burden, to anyone who has common sense, left in New York. And California.

I mean, you seemed to be outnumbered by barbarians. It must be an awfully hopeless feeling. I'm glad we can be there for so many of you today.

Just don't give up.

Don't give up.

You are not without hope.

As long as you're still in the fight.

So I live in New York. Call your governor's office.

Urge her to veto this evil bill of death.

Choose life! Do not give up on trying to salvage a culture of life. Because once you do, we're completely done. Choose life!

RADIO

The REAL reason Democrats FUMED over Sen. Padilla arrest

Democratic Senator Alex Padilla was arrested after heckling DHS Secretary Kristi Noem during a press briefing, and his fellow Democrats are furious! But is this more “theatre” than anything? Glenn Beck breaks down the hysteria.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, every show today, can talk about the theatrics of Senator Padilla. And senator Warren yesterday. But it takes the special podcast to introduce to masterpiece theater! Tonight, we present a spectacle so sublime, so stupendous, it shall sear itself into the annals of human history. Behold, America's greatest thespians. Nay! Titans of the stage. Senator Alex Padilla, Senator Elizabeth Warren, and Senator Cory Booker. Prepare yourself for a torrent of theater, a deluge of tears, a veritable hurricane of histrionics.

First, witness Senator Alex Padilla as the poor, downtrodden, utterly helpless, yet inexplicably powerful senator from California. See him bum-rush the stage in a mostly peaceful, chaotic sort of way.

Then Senator Elizabeth Warren takes the stage, with her heart-wrenching monologue, which we've dubbed the trail of tears.

Watch as she channels the anguish of a thousand ancestors. Her voice trembling with the weight of a nation's sorrow.

Or possibly just a really bad day at the Capitol cafeteria. And finally, Senator Cory Booker unleashes the full outrage in our climactic opus, the Coming of a Tyrant. Feel the earthquake beneath his righteous fury.

Marvel as he roars defiance. His every move to the heart of despotism.

Or at least, the heart of anyone who forgets to mute a Zoom call. So dear audience, gird your loins. For an evening and episode of passion, pathos, and possibly a few pulled hamstrings. Because this is masterpiece theater! We join the action now in California, at a Kristi Noem press conference, and in the room, somewhere in the back, Senator Alex Padilla. Let's listen in!

VOICE: -- the burdensome leadership, that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country, and what they have tried to insert into the city. So I want to say, thank you to every single person that has been able to do this.

VOICE: Senator Padilla.

I have questions for the Secretary.

Because the fact of the matter is, half the dozens -- that was on your -- on your --

GLENN: Okay. How dare them -- how dare them, indeed!

Okay. So here he is. He's identified himself after he bum-rushes the podium for a live press conference. He comes in, bum-rushes. He is not wearing his Senate pin which would identify him. They have no idea if he's a senator or not.

I've never even heard of this clown. Certainly would not have recognized him.

He looks like someone you would find I don't know, sitting in the center of a Wendy's, you know, for a lunch. I don't know who this guy is.

And so they get him out of there, as they should.

I don't know if you know this. But this was his big stage debut. This was his moment!

But before Israel could strike in those waning moments of his fame, Elizabeth Warren takes the stage.

And here, in the episode, we call the Trail of Tears, she says this.

VOICE: When Senator Padilla had pushed, shoved, thrown to the -- handcuffed. Because he is asking questions, because he is engaging. In the very oversight that senators are supposed to engage in. Then what we're really talking about here is a Trump administration that just wants to shut down the ordinary functions of government.

VOICE: We went there to observe and ask questions.

GLENN: Oh, here's a bonus.

VOICE: And I watched with horror, on this video, seeing these agents grab my colleague, my fellow senator from California. Grab him.

GLENN: Oh.

VOICE: Push him out of the hearing. And I am -- I am shocked.

GLENN: Shocked!

VOICE: By far how we have descended in the first 140 days of this administration.

GLENN: Oh. Oh, my goodness. He's never seen this.

VOICE: House Padilla forcibly --

GLENN: Now Cory Booker.

VOICE: Before his executive. When does it stop?

GLENN: When! When, dare I ask!

VOICE: Attempt to kneel to his knees, violently. When does it stop!

GLENN: When!
(laughter)

VOICE: This is a crossroads.

GLENN: This is it.

VOICE: This is a day in which the character of his body will be defined.

GLENN: I say, dare I say a day which will live in infamy. I shall not boy, or even introduce myself. Or, you know, just I'll crash the press conference, and then just try to hijack it. That's you all I'm going to do. That's all I'm going to do.

How dare you stop me!

When did the Senate lose its decorum?

May I expect this now from the Congress?

Generally, we've always known there are a few clowns in Congress, but now the senators are all doing it.

STU: I mean, there's nobody better at it than Cory Booker though. You want to talk --

GLENN: He is good. He is good.

STU: Pathetic, in every single way. I love it.

GLENN: A titan of the stage.
(laughter)

STU: Glenn, now, you're -- you're a bit of a historian. You own a museum. Right?

You've been looking back at our history and throughout it. At any point in the Federalist Papers, or in our founding doctors, was there a path created for a senator to talk to a government official, other than interrupting a press conference?

Has anyone ever thought of a way for them to meet and discuss an issue of importance?

GLENN: No. No. No. It's in section two, subsection three.

STU: Okay.

GLENN: Of the Constitution.

STU: Right. From the back.

GLENN: Where they say, you've got questions. You've got questions.

You've got to storm the room.

You've just got to storm the room.

STU: Don't tell anyone you're coming. Don't announce yourself in advance.

Don't talk to security.

Hey. I have to talk to --

GLENN: Or if -- if you did say that.

And they said, sir, this is a closed press conference. She's not taking any questions. This is just a live broadcast.

You can wait for it. She will talk to you after.

And then you say, I have the right to storm the room!

STU: Now, I --

GLENN: How pathetic is it, that they only have this little -- they have this pathetic little 20-minute period, and now nobody is talking about it.

STU: Oh, I will say, the greatest party heard by the -- Israel's actions overnight, was not Iran.

But it was Alex Padilla's fundraising.

Because this was his big plan. This was his big moment in the sun.

He will take in millions of dollars, and get all this attention, and get all these MSNBC hits. And all the things that every senator seems to go to Washington for these days. Certainly, it's not making laws. And he was going to have this wonderful wave of attention. Instead, he remained the giant zilch, he remained yesterday.

He will remain a giant, pathetic, empty nothing of a senator. That I might note, you as a Radio Hall of Fame member and a person who follows this every day, did not even know who this was.

GLENN: I mean, it was kind of like, you know, this guy named Alex Padilla. Maybe. I don't know.

STU: Heard the name.

GLENN: He's a senator!

GLENN: Is that the --

STU: From where?

GLENN: Is that the ball club in Washington, DC?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: No!
(laughter)

STU: It's incredible.

And that's who he is.

And it's funny. The successful version, I suppose all of this. Is Cory Booker.

Like he did this -- he did this, you know, big speech, a few months ago.

That, you know, everybody was -- was talking about.

GLENN: Oh, everybody.

STU: And, you know, it's on the heels of his 2 percent presidential run.

Effort. Which was impressive as well.

Back in the day. I think he has a huge future, as well.

Elizabeth Warren. Kind of a trail of tears, that we saw there.
(laughter)

GLENN: There's no acting involved in that.

STU: I know.

GLENN: She was just going into her kitchen, to grab herself a beer. And her husband will pop in.

Unexpectedly.

Hey. Whoa, whoa. Hey, husband.

You want a brew? (

STU: The fascinating part of this, obviously, they're bad at governance. But they're also bad at this.

Is there not convincing people, that anyone could take seriously, even if they tried?

GLENN: Well, they are -- all they are, now, is just story line.

They are just telling a story. You're watching a play.

When you're watching the Democrats and the left now. It is nothing, but a play.

What are they doing?

They're getting rid for the big no kings thing on -- on Saturday.

Right? All over the country. No kings.
He's a tyrant. He's a king. So they've been planning this one for a while.

So what do they do this week?

They make sure he's acting like a tyrant in Los Angeles.

Then they say, he's acting like a tyrant. Because he's scooping people in the middle of the night.

Then he's acting like a tyrant, because he has a giant missile parade, and nobody does that.

Nothing.

Nobody, but North Korea does that. And then this. They storm in. They know that they're going to be pushed back. They're hoping to be pushed back. And why?

What do they get out of it?

They all run to the -- run to the social media boxes. But, oh, my God.

He's a tyrant. He's a tyrant. That's all they're doing.

Is they're setting this up for him to be a tyrant. It's not working.

I mean, I'm not buying it.

There's really stupid people in the country, that look at that and go, I think those are real tears, coming from that squaw.

I think those are real squaw-like tears. By the way, I heard the New York Times, the Daily, with Michael Barbaro, wow!

They did the whole thing on the missile parade. Stu, you've got to listen to this. It will drive you out of your mind!
(laughter)
So this is what they said. They said, first, it was a bad idea. Why did he do this?
We're talking to expert on parades, on the missile parade. Why would he do this?

GLENN: Well, a lot of people are upset. Because no democracy does this. Only dictators. Well, actually, I will get to that here in a second. But we don't do these things.

And except -- except for Wilson, FDR, Eisenhower, JFK's inauguration, none during Vietnam, and then after the Gulf War with George W. Bush.

But we haven't done these things. We just don't do them. We never had.

Also, I would like to point out, the VFW and the foreign legion every year, and thousands of parades all around the country. But they don't usually have tanks.

But it's a really bad idea, because it's also Trump's birthday. You know, now it takes them almost eight minutes, before they also say, and it's the army's 250th birthday.

They never say, and, by the way, we're going into the 250th anniversary.

Of America. But it's just Trump's birthday. And then they say, it's a bad idea.

Because Washington, DC, is a dangerous place.

And people could get hurt.

Dangerous?

Since when is Washington, DC, dangerous to the New York Times?

Are you racist? My gosh, it's safe. And the new socialist mayor, who defunded the police and painted BLM on the streets has that city running like a top.

It's completely safe.

But then, it was too expensive.

You can't do that military parade. Because it's too expensive

Yeah. $45 million, it is.

My problem is, you won't cut anything from the budget.

Even the corruption. So how am I going to take you seriously about the budget?

And then my favorite, which is what they started with.

They said, Trump got this idea.

Because he was over in France. I can't explain France.

But no democracy does this.

This is just dictators.

We don't ever do this.

You know, Republicans, sorry.

Republics, or democracies.

You know, they don't have these military.

And they went on and on and on.

About how it doesn't happen. Except for our closest cousin. England.

Every year. I know because I got caught in it, last year.

Oh, jeez.

They have something called trooping the color.

And that's it official birthday celebration of the king or the queen.

And one of the oldest military traditions in the UK.

And they -- they have all these guys. Military.

And they do all these drills. And they march out into -- it's not even on his birthday. His birthday is, I don't even know.

In the fall. Is in a complete sham.

They don't have any missiles.

They have been dragging the troops out there. So prince Charles can stand there all day. And look at them and go, yep. Those are my boys!

Okay. So you do it in England. Then you also do it in France. They have been doing it. Bastille day.

Military parade.

Then you also do it in India. Didn't know that. Did you know that? They do it in India.

And they also do it in another democracy as well. I'm trying to remember which one it is.

So it doesn't just happen in North Korea. Uh-huh.

Shoot!

I guess they were wrong on all fronts, New York Times.

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Former IDF spox TELLS ALL about the Iran strikes

Former IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus joins Glenn Beck with the latest information about Israel’s strikes on Iran. Lt. Col. Conricus reveals how many Iranian leaders were taken out, what the tipping point for the strike was, and whether he believes President Trump deceived Iran.

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GLENN: Friend of the program, and friend, lieutenant Colonel retired Jonathan Conricus.

John, how are you today?

JONATHAN: So far, so good. Thankful of everything happening. And happy to be on your show. And discussing about what we are about to discuss, Glenn.

GLENN: A lot of people were praying for you last night. A lot of Americans are a little freaked out. I kind of -- I'm not freaked out, but I'm very concerned.

You know, one of the things the president -- one of the things he really ran and won on is, we will stop all these endless wars.

And we don't have an end in sight for Russia and Ukraine. And this one, while this is your battle and a very important one, it is going to affect the entire world, what happened.

How -- what was the convincing evidence, if you can tell us, how close were they, to a bomb?

JONATHAN: Yeah. I think you're right. And I think the concerns of the Americans that you refer to, they are very valid. That this will affect other people in the world.

I think what Israel did had the potential to affect significant positive change in the region.

And currently, the ball is in the Iranian hands. They have now the option to choose how to respond, to what you incorrectly described as quite a magnificent and unprecedented military strike, surprise against Iran.

Taking out more than 20 of their senior leaders, conducting hundreds of strikes in -- all across Iran.

About eight, 900, a thousand miles away from Israel, we struck. And all of our pilots have come home safely, and there's many months of preparations.

And many years of collecting intelligence. Mossad. And Israeli Air Force cooperating together here.

Maybe also Special Forces on the ground.

But bottom line, this is really, I think a historic operation. That we will be studying by military experts.

But we will leave that side for a second, and address the concerns of the people. Now the Iranians have to decide, what are they going to do?
How are they going to respond? They have tried to respond by sending about 100 drones.

They have been intercepted. And we will see how the Iranians will respond. And the president correctly telling them, well, you have the options of going and making a teal. Because you the Iranians will not have a nuclear bomb.

And if you continue going downtown path of violence, then this will end badly for you.

That's what the US president is saying. Now, in terms of what the tipping point was Iran has been dark for the bomb for a long period of time.

I think the atomic agency report that verified that Iran is not only enriching uranium to weapon's grade.

And has enough material for at least ten bombs. But Iran is also in noncompliance when it comes to their obligations, to allow international supervision of their sites.

And I think that, and a lot of intelligence that I think we will have declassified in the future, was the tipping point, and at the end of the day, this has been, you know, months if not years in the making.

Iran has an open goal to annihilate the state of Israel.

They say clearly in Farsi. In their language. We know that they mean business.

And we also know that if we allow them to develop the tools to do so. They might be tempted to use them.

That's what Israel has today, started town ravel in terms of those Iranian capabilities.

GLENN: So I was a little disappointed today. Two Israeli officials. That's all it said. Axios article. That they said, President Trump was instrumental in all of this et cetera, et cetera.

But he and Benjamin Netanyahu were engaged in deception.

And I -- I read this as, I don't think Israel would have done something this massive without the United States, you know, in their corner.

But I don't think it's deceptive when the president says, you have 60 days to negotiate. And you don't want to see what happens on day 61.

I don't think that's deceptive to make plans, to go in, on day 61.

He kept giving them the same warning over and over again. Do you read that as deception? Or a negotiator that is telling you the truth?

JONATHAN: I think actually it's both.

It's deception in the good way of how to wage war. And how to capture enemy unaware of his.

And unprepared. And that is what Israel did.

Has the US president been deceptive?

No, I don't think so.

I think he's been very straightforward. Telling the Iranians time and time again, this is the best deal you can get.

You should relinquish all attempts to enrich material in Iran, and you should allow full comprehensive inspection of all of your sites, nuclear as well as weapons development.

And if you do that, nothing bad is going to happen. And we will probably free sanctions, and good things will happen to Iran. The Iranian dealership heard that, but didn't do it. And as you said, correctly, we are today on Day 61 of the presidential ultimatum, and this is what happens.

GLENN: Right. Yes. The president draws a red line and then actually meets it.

Ben Rhodes came out today and said, war is breaking out. Because Donald Trump pulled out of the Iran deal and got humiliated by Netanyahu while trying to negotiate his own.

And he will have a military parade for his birthday. This is the weakest strong man ever. Is that why this happened? Because Donald Trump pulled out of the Iran Deal?

JONATHAN: I think that sounds like a very bitter former personal influence, who, you know, was part in devising a lousy deal for America, a lousy deal for the world.

And he's bitter because the other perspective and the other line of thought is prevailing.

And I think that if we look at the current situation in the Middle East. The biggest destabilizing and terror-supporting country in the region.

That has its tentacles. Or had its tentacles in Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Iraq, Syria. And, of course, trying to develop nuclear weapons. Iran is now being right-sized, and put in a tight spot.

Maybe Mr. Rhodes has sympathy for the Iranian regime.

I do not.

I do not wish to see what happens if that regime is allowed to develop. Because I know that they are a genocidal and absolutely crazy regime that might do the most horrible things.

And then, of course, Mr. Rhodes probably doesn't assess it like that, because he lives far away and he isn't an Israeli. But for us, Israelis, it's as tangible, and as existential as it gets. And so to the contrary. I think just one thing.

You know, President Trump in his first presidency, he gave the brave and correct order to take out Qasem Soleimani, the very important Iranian general at the time there was an entire chorus around the world American media, blaming President Trump for escalating. Opening World War III. And all matter of all other fabricated nonsense. None of that happened.

And what President Trump did, what he ordered. And what US troops did, was to take out the most important mastermind of Iranian expansionism.
And I think today, that is also important.

Because had he been around Soleimani. I'm pretty sure the Iranians would have fared better since October 7th, and we would have a more difficult situation.

He is not around, and I give credit for President Trump for doing that. And I give credit to President Trump for supporting Israel and for working together with Israel.

Of course, keeping America's interests first and Israel's interest second. That's what the US president should be doing.

But the interest here, they are aligning. And I think we are in a very good situation. I hope good things will come. I hope prosperity. I hope freedom for the Iranian people is just around the corner.

And I hope prosperity for all the people in the Middle East is around the corner.

It can happen, because the Iranian regime was standing in between that progress.

And now, there's a different time for the Iranian regime.

GLENN: It would be amazing, if we saw the regime actually topple and the people were free.

Because the Persian people are wonderful.

Let me ask you. You know, we're seeing -- we're seeing riots on our streets. We're seeing it in Europe. It always has a communist, socialist, anarchist. And an Islamist tit to them.

The Palestinian protests are growing everywhere.

And I just look at this and say, this is our future for the entire Western world.

Should we be concerned that this activity now, green lights will be given to let's say the 8,000 terrorists that we know are here in America. Let alone all over Europe.

JONATHAN: Yeah. I think that the West, Europe to a more severe extent, and the US to a certain extent. In certain states and certain cities, mostly along the coasts, unless inside the country, perhaps barring Chicago and the few areas of the Great Lakes.

But by and large, there's a significant threat to the Western-based system of democracy, civil liberties, law and order, and it is being implemented on the ground and carried and pushed forward, by many rogue elements.

One of them being Islamists that are espousing terrorist ideologies. And that deep down, do not agree with the Judeo Christian values.

That are today governing the world. And led by free democracies.

And they are trying to import their failed system of governance. And their outlook on life. Which they brought from the Middle East. And from other places. And enforce that on free democratic societies.

And they're abusing the system. The liberties.

The freedoms, and the rights that democracies like the US and in Europe, avail people. They're marching on the streets.

Under the guise of free speech.

They are advocating violence. They are trying to undermine the social fabric of society.

They are e- spousing terrorism.

They are glorifying violence. And, of course, anti-Semitism is also in that bag of negative things.

And I think it is high time, that there's a serious debate in the US. And in the west.

I think the situation in Europe is far worse than it is in the US.

I think Americans can look at the streets of London and Paris.

And heed warning.

And say, if we want to reach a situation where the streets are dominated by the Islamists. And an order white Christian or Jew or someone who isn't a Muslim extremist.

Can't walk the streets safely, in the streets of their own country, then we better look at what's happening in Europe.

And take action before.

Now, to be clear. I am not branding all Muslims as terror supporters.

There are many great Americans who are Muslim heritage. Who are local American citizens.

Who are not e- spousing terror pessimism.

But who those do. Those who seek to undermine western democracy.

Who those seek to undermine law and order.

And a free and bright based society.

And to import dark worldviews from the Middle East.

Based on all kind of extremist ideologies, they should be met with a firm response.

And in most cases, they are not met with firm responses. And then they expand.

GLENN: Lieutenant colonel. I know you have to run.

You have to a busy day. Thank you for spending time.

Is this over now?

Or is there more to come?

JONATHAN: No. No. This is not even the end of the beginning.

GLENN: Okay. Lieutenant colonel, thank you, so much.

God bless.

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Are these SIGNS a war with Iran is about to begin?

The United States just made some major moves in the Middle East that usually indicate a war is about to begin. Is the US or Israel about to go to war with Iran? Glenn Beck and his head researcher Jason Buttrill discuss what we currently know.

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GLENN: Stu, do you have any idea what it's like?

Jason is up this week. And he is staying up at the ranch. Do you have any idea what it's like to have me and Jason in the same house for a week?

It's not a happy place.

STU: No. Many visions of global apocalypse have been discussed. Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

I was working yesterday on what -- what's happening with Hamas and Hezbollah. I just finished the show.

What is happening on the streets of Los Angeles and everything else.

And I'm sitting there. I'm a little exhausted, and he comes up.

Have you heard the news? I'm like, no. What?

I think Israel will bomb the -- it could be tonight. It could be tonight.

Do you know what that means?

No. I don't think -- it means total collapse. It will be ugly.

Dogs and cats will be tearing each other's eyes out.

And it's very good. Very good possibility.

Kamala comes back. And she's the president of the United States.

It will be that bad, Glenn.

Okay. Thank you. And I'm not going to sleep.

STU: Sounds like a fun time. This is why you moved into the mountains, right?

GLENN: Yeah. It is. To get away from Jason.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Well, okay. Jason, take me to this.

Because yesterday, the government did some things that they don't ever do.

At least I haven't seen them do, unless war is pretty imminent.

Right?

JASON: Yes. Can I start with the maybe possible upside, before we freak everybody out.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

JASON: The possible upside, as we were watching the possible upsides yesterday, so was Iran. So were their people.

Especially because the negotiations between us and the Iranians is still going on.

And, in fact, I think they're supposed to meet Sunday because the original ultimatum that Trump gave Iran was, I think it was 60 days. It's supposed to run out, I believe today. So this is the negotiation of negotiations. Like, this Sunday it's big.

GLENN: Okay. Okay. So this all might be Kabuki theater, to get them to the table.

JASON: You saw Trump.

Even Trump's interview. He's a master negotiator and strategist on this thing.

So this could be, hey. This is what you're playing with.

GLENN: He didn't give this to me, last night.

JASON: I have to save some --

GLENN: I was awake all night.

Yeah. Bits probably negotiation.

JASON: He was like Tania, give the food to the blind. Let's go!

GLENN: All right. So it might be, but do we make these things?

That's a master negotiator. That's an expensive move.

And a big move to pull everybody out of the embassies.

And to pull all of the families out. From the military bases?

JASON: Yes. Yes. So that is very big.

In a single 24-hour period, we had the Pentagon authorizing the voluntary withdrawal of dependents and family members from some of these locations within the Middle East. Almost immediately after that, another I don't know if you call this a leak or a release came out, that we were sending out emergency information, to all of the diplomatic facilities. Embassies, within striking range of Iran.

So you're talking about northeast Africa.

All of the Middle East. All those areas. Saying, put together a comprehensive emergency plan. And instead of diplomatic cable back to us, to let us know what that plan is.

Now, at this point, we were like, okay.

What exactly is going on?

Now, again, at the same time. We get senator cotton saying, that Pete Hegseth confirmed to them, inside Congress.

Saying that, okay.

Now Iran is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon.

Actively pursuing a nuclear weapon.

This guy said right after that, yes. For the first time the UN is admitting to us, that for the first time in 20 years, Iran is just not -- they don't care about any of the proliferation, anything.

They're just going all out.

GLENN: Good! That's good.

JASON: This was all spewing out immediately, within 12 hours.

GLENN: Stu. Help me.

STU: You've already run away outside of all civilization. I don't know what more help you can get.

GLENN: Is there a shovel?

I can tunnel in -- you know, remember when -- what was it, the dwarves?

You know, they tunneled into that mountain. In one of the Lord of the Rings thing.

They were in that mountain with the dragon and stuff.

I think we can do that. Get some shovels. Let's go.

Let's go.

So I know you were up. Until the sun rose, in Tehran.

Because you were monitoring it.

Because you were waiting for the skies to light up.

JASON: Yeah.

GLENN: I said this morning, if there is a strike, it will happen after the stock market closes on Friday.

Because this would cause massive disruption.

And let's just talk about first, before we get into what the response would be. And what we would have to do.

And what other countries would have to do.

When Israel goes over, they're saying, they will bomb the nuclear facilities.

But we don't think they have enough to build a bomb yet.

But there's a chance.

And if they don't get all of it, it's real trouble!

GLENN: Yeah, you best not miss.

There's multiple, multiple nuclear sites within Iran. Just off the top of my head, I can think of six to nine, I believe, that they would have to at least have some kind of strike on.

Some of the facilities are so well-entrenched, because they've been playing this for a long time.

And to defend specifically against an attack like this, they're so dug under the ground and protected and hardened.

You're probably talking about multiple strikes, at a single target.

GLENN: Right.

JASON: So it's not like a single strike.

GLENN: This is like -- in a way, it's kind of like Top Gun 2.

Where they were going after, and they had to -- you know, they had to first land a bomb. And another one had to fall into that hole. Right?

Because it was all buried so deeply. This is going to be precision stuff.

JASON: Precision stuff. Top Gun 2. But probably spread over a week of multiple dangerous runs.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

JASON: Yeah. It's more than a single night operation. It will go on for several days.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

Okay. So now, how's Iran respond?

JASON: That's the question.

GLENN: Yeah.

JASON: And immediately counterattack. With a strike like what we saw. What was that a month ago?

Something similar to that. Just to start. Then the scary stuff happens.

GLENN: Okay. So let's get into that here in just a second.

Also, I want to talk to you about what's happening in New York, on the medical front.

And governor Hochul. What she's -- I mean, it's -- it is amazing how dark the left can go.

Be the light.

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