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Katie Couric Admits a 'Fetus Can Feel' in Interview With Ellen Degeneres

Where to begin? In her latest documentary on gender and the gender revolution, Katie Couric went on record that a baby in utero can actually feel. Granted, her point was that "sometimes the surge of testosterone can make a female fetus feel as if that baby is male," but she nonetheless admitted to a fetus being able to feel. And, in Couric's reasoning, the opposite would be true in the case of a lack of testosterone.

"Excuse me?" Glenn asked, perplexed on a variety of levels.

Co-host Pat Gray wondered if perhaps Couric might have stumbled upon something that would cause an epiphany.

"If that's the case, haven't you stumbled onto something there, that maybe you shouldn't be destroying this female . . . this transgendered baby? I mean, maybe that's how we attack this now, from a transgendered point of view. How many transgendered people are you going to abort?" Pat asked.

Does science or reason even play a role in their thinking? If only fetuses were ice caps or melting glaciers then the left would be on red alert about abortion.

GLENN: Hello, America. Welcome to the program. Glad you're here. Let's start with Katie Couric. Katie Couric is doing a documentary on gender and the gender revolution that is happening right now. And she was speaking to Ellen DeGeneres. And I want you to listen to what she's saying. And forget about gender. Let's talk about abortion. Listen to this.

KATIE: Operate on a child and tell that child you're a certain gender. That doesn't necessarily coincide with who that person feels he or she actually is.

ELLEN: Right. It doesn't correlate with what is in your head.

KATIE: Right. In the later stages of development, it's when your brain is wired. And sometimes the surge of testosterone can make a female fetus feel as if that baby is male or that person is male.

ELLEN: So you're in the wrong body, yeah.

KATIE: And the opposite if there's not enough testosterone.

GLENN: Excuse me?

PAT: Interesting. On many levels, fascinating.

GLENN: What was that?

PAT: That's Katie Couric saying that a -- first of all, a female fetus baby -- which goes a little beyond the whole tissue thing, doesn't it?

GLENN: Yes.

PAT: Okay. That's not Brussels sprouts growing inside of a woman. That's a baby growing inside of the woman. Secondly, if the baby is to the point where the baby can feel either male or female, what are you doing aborting it? If that's the case, haven't you -- haven't you stumbled on to something there, that maybe you shouldn't be destroying this female -- this transgendered baby? I don't -- I mean, maybe that's how we attack this now, from a transgendered point of view.

How many transgendered people are you going to abort?

STU: You look at that -- what is it? It's got to be -- I mean, between -- in the LGBTQIA community.

GLENN: Seriously. Is IA two new letters?

STU: Yeah, Jeffy -- Jeffy knows.

GLENN: No, I don't trust Jeffy.

STU: Oh, I wouldn't trust Jeffy either. But on this topic, he's an expert.

GLENN: Seriously, they've added two new --

STU: Intersex and asexual.

JEFFY: It's the lesbian --

PAT: I thought you were making that up. They've added IA to it?

JEFFY: Well, it's the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, intersex, asexual.

GLENN: What is intersex?

PAT: I mean, are we going to include the entire alphabet?

GLENN: That's why I said last week I thought you were joking.

STU: No.

GLENN: Why don't we just say ABCDEFGHIJKLMOPQRST -- I mean, why not just repeat the alphabet? What is intersexual?

STU: Intersex is a general term used for a variety of conditions -- which, I am not comfortable with this language. I want to make sure -- I'm reading this from the Intersex Society of North America.

Apparently, those hatemongers are comfortable calling it a condition. I am not. I want to make sure that is clear right now.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: Intersex is a general term used for a variety of conditions, in which the person with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn't seem to fit the typical definitions of male or female.

GLENN: Okay. So that would be like an hermaphrodite?

JEFFY: Yeah, well, that's an outdated and inaccurate term that's been used to describe intersex people in the past, Glenn.

STU: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

GLENN: Honestly, how many people are affected by that?

STU: 300 million.

GLENN: This condition.

STU: I'm guessing.

GLENN: Am I the only one that suffers from the condition of heterosexuality.

STU: Outdated term, cisgender, is that what you're looking for?

PAT: I'm looking for heterosexual.

STU: There's no such thing.

PAT: There's no such thing.

STU: And what was the other one?

JEFFY: Asexual.

STU: Okay. Let's see, asexual is --

GLENN: Well, asexual is someone who doesn't claim to have any desire to be anything and have sex.

STU: Welcome to 1950. Thank you for that definition.

Without -- I think that's right. Absolutely. Not involved -- let's see.

PAT: That's what I thought Michael Jackson was.

GLENN: Asexual? Yeah.

JEFFY: Deliberate abstention from sexual activity.

STU: Which, again, I thought it was about -- I get very confused about these things. Because the last one was talking about seemingly body parts. Intersex.

JEFFY: Correct.

STU: However, the other things were sexual preferences, right? So why would intersex --

GLENN: Well, but no, they're not sexual preferences. Because we were taught that you were born a certain way, so you can't have a preference. You don't have a preference. That's who you are. Which kind of makes me wonder about questioning or bisexual. Questioning, maybe, because you're growing up in this horrible system that you're either a male or a female. So you're questioning whether or not you are. But that's not how you're born. You're not born questioning. You're questioning --

PAT: You're born with all the answers, right? You're born with every answer.

GLENN: Well, kids know things that their parents don't know.

PAT: That's right.

GLENN: So I don't know. So, anyway --

STU: But, again, that's an interesting thing, how many -- if you go through the LGBTQIA, that entire group, combine them together, how many in that group has been aborted? Millions, probably. Right?

PAT: Easily millions. We're 52 million overall. So...

GLENN: We are headed towards a very spooky place. And nobody is willing to go there, except apparently the right when the right doesn't have power, and the left, when the left doesn't have power.

I would think that the left would be the first to agree right now that we could absolutely head towards a totalitarian state where your sexual preference or your nothing that makes you a liberal can be deleted. We can change that gene. We can abort you.

That there could come a time when we have a fascist dictator that says, "Hey, here's the map of the gene. Delete those." And that could get out of control, especially with somebody like Donald Trump. And the right would say, "Especially with somebody like Barack Obama."

But they won't agree that -- you know, when you take politics out of it or their guy is in control, they will never agree that that's even a possibility. But that's what I'm afraid of.

That's what -- I shouldn't say afraid. That's what I'm concerned about. This is so easy to fix. But when you have somebody on top that is saying, "You will live a certain way." That's why -- that's why the Founders went and testified on behalf of people that were being persecuted, that were not them.

They would go and testify in states where their own faith -- their own church were persecuting people for not being a part of that church. And so they would say, which one of you guys is -- I don't know. You know, a -- let's just make it neutral. Which one of you guys is a Mormon because that future state of Utah is going to persecute all the people who aren't Mormons? They would find the Mormon guy, and he would go out and testify say, "Mormons, this is wrong." That's why we have to say, "I stand up for the most vile speech. I don't stand up for violence. But I will stand up for the most vile speech. I will stand up for the person most unlike me." And if we lose that, we are in grave danger. Because why can't I weed somebody out?

If you could -- you know, everybody -- everybody says, "Well, you can't find that homosexual gene. You noticed we mapped the entire DNA. Can't find the gay gene now, can you?" I'm glad we can't. I'm really glad we can't. Because I really, truly believe, in some parts of the world, and God forbid, here in America, we would start deleting that gay gene.

I'm concerned that everybody is so convinced that everybody bit of struggle and strife is bad and should be eliminated, that we're just going to start eliminating those people or those things that make you who you are.

That there's -- that's an abomination. Abomination. Look, I don't want to have cancer, and I want to eliminate cancer. But there are some things that are, you know, in your DNA. And we have to have that discussion.

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Gen Z's surprising support for Trump and socialist policies revealed in new poll

A shocking number of young Americans support BOTH President Trump and democratic socialism, a new poll has found, and they're willing to make major changes to the American system to get what they feel they deserve. Justin Haskins, who conducted the poll with Rasmussen, joins Glenn Beck to break down the unexpected findings…

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GLENN: Justin Haskins. He's the president of our republic. StoppingSocialism.com. He's editor-in-chief. And also the coauthor of several books, with me. Welcome to the program, Justin.

How are you?

JUSTIN: I'm doing well, Glenn. How are you?

STU: Well, I was well, until you contacted me on vacation, and sent me this disturbing poll.

I am in bed at night.

And I'm reading this. I'm like, oh, dear.

What? My wife is like, I told you to not check this email. I'm like, I didn't know Justin was going to write to me.

Justin, tell me, first of all, before we get into it, how secure is the sample size on this poll?

JUSTIN: It's a very good sample size. 1200 people nationally.

Only 18 to 39-year-olds. And we did that deliberately, so that we could get a sample size large enough so we could pull out valid responses, just from younger people.

So the whole purpose of this poll was to find out what younger people, 18 to 39 think, voters only. And people who say that they're likely to vote. So we're not talking about just people out in the public. We're not talking about registered voters.

We're talking about people who are registered to vote. And say they're likely to vote.

GLENN: So let's go over some of the things that you have already released to the press.

And that is, in the survey, 18 to 39-year-olds, likely voters.

The Trump approval rating is a lot higher than you thought it would be. Right?

JUSTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Forty-eight percent positive approval rating of Donald Trump, which for young people, is very high.

So that's -- that's the good news.

That's the only good news we're going to talk about.

GLENN: We might have to come back to that first question several times.

Do you believe the United States is a fundamentally good, evil, or morally mixed country?

JUSTIN: Yep. This one is not too bad.

It's not great. But fundamentally good was 28 percent.

Which is low. But mixed was 50 percent.

And fundamentally evil was 17 percent.

And I think mixed at 50 percent is not an unreasonable, crazy response.

I -- I can see why all sorts of people might choose that.

So I don't think there's anything terrible here. It depends on what you mean by mixed. Fundamentally good at 28 percent. It's a little low. Fundamentally evil at 17 percent, it's a little disturbing. But it's not -- it's not insane. The insane stuff comes a little bit later.

GLENN: Do you agree or disagree with this statement? Major industries talk about the crazy stuff coming later, here it is.

Major industries like health care, energy, and big tech should be nationalized and give more control and equity to the people.

JUSTIN: Yeah. This was -- this was -- this one floored me. If I look at strongly agree. Somewhat agree for that statement you just read. It's over 70 percent of young people, including -- including the vast majority of Republicans. Young Republicans. And people who identify as conservatives.

It was pretty similar, in fact, how young people responded compared to liberals and independents.

And Democrats.

They all pretty much agreed that, yes. The government. The federal government should be nationalizing whole industries to make things more equitable for people.

GLENN: As the guy who is the chief -- editor-in-chief of stopping socialism. What's the problem with nationalizing energy, and health care?

JUSTIN: Well --

GLENN: What happens, typically.

JUSTIN: Well, usually, there's blood in the streets, when you do too much of that.

You know, socialism, communism have been spectacularly horrible, throughout the course of human history. Across every society, culture, religion.

It doesn't matter when or what kind of technological advancements you have. The more you collect vies a society. The more authoritarian that society gets. The less you have individual freedom. And the worst the economy usually is for regular people. So it's been a catastrophe across-the-board. Everyone listening to this audience, probably knows that.

And so the idea that you would have three-quarters of young voters. So remember, these people will be the primary voters in ten to 20 years.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

JUSTIN: Saying, yeah. We should be nationalizing whole industries. Whole industries, is so disturbing.

And I don't think that conservatives are -- understand how deeply rooted some of these ideas are with younger people.

GLENN: No. No.

And I will tell you, I think some conservatives are walking a very dangerous line. And, you know, coming up with a little mix of everything.

And -- and I think we have to be very careful on -- on what is being said. And who are WHO our friends and allies are.

By the way, that number again is 39 percent strongly agree.

37 percent somewhat agree.

Somewhat disagree, 12 percent. Strongly disagree, 5 percent.

That is disastrous. Now, try this one on. These are the ones that have been -- we have new ones.

These are just a few of the ones that were released late last week. The next presidential election is in 2028. Would you like to see a democratic socialist candidate win the 2028 presidential election?

JUSTIN: Yep, 53 percent said yes.

Fifty-three percent of all voters said yes. And the most shocking thing, was that 35 percent of those who we poll, who said they voted for Donald Trump, in 2024, said that that they want to see a socialist win in 2028. And so about a third of Republicans, 35 percent of Trump voters, 43 percent of people who call themselves conservatives, so even on the right, among younger people. There is a large group that want a socialist president, in 2028.

GLENN: And the reason -- the reason is, it -- it tied into the next few questions. Okay.

So here's question five. Among the following options, which best describes your biggest reason, you would like to see a democratic socialist candidate. Thirty-one percent said housing costs are too high. Twelve percent, taxes are too low for corporations. Eleven percent, taxes are too low for wealthy have I seen.

Eight percent want single payer health care systems. Seventeen say the economy unfairly benefits older, wealthier Americans.

Fifteen percent say the economy unfairly benefits larger corporations. 5 percent, some other reason.

And 2 percent, unsure. Now, let's get into the new polls that were breaking today.

Question six.

How would you describe your current financial situation?

JUSTIN: Yeah. Only 24 percent said that they're doing well. Thirty-four -- 38 percent said getting by. Struggling 29 percent. Seven percent said in crisis. So if you add up just getting by, struggling, and in crisis, that's 74 percent said that they're just barely getting by, at best.

And I think that explains a lot of the other negative responses we've seen so far.

GLENN: That's not good.

JUSTIN: In this poll. And the ones that are going to come pretty soon here.

GLENN: Seven. Which best describes your personal life situation?

You are thriving, you're doing well with a few ups and downs. You feel stuck and uncertain. You feel lonely, disconnected, or emotionally drained. You're in a crisis and feel most negative about your personal life.

JUSTIN: Yeah. Yeah. About a third said that they feel stuck or uncertain. Lonely. Or that they're in a crisis.

That's a third of young people. Say that.

I mean, that's -- that's not great. Only 19 percent said thriving.

46 percent said, they have ups and downs. Which I think is not. Too shocking.

But the idea that there's a third of American voters out there, who feel like, they can't buy a home. And they feel like they are lonely. And that they're in crisis. And that life is not just going well at all for them.

Again, I think that's -- that's driving a lot of the support for socialism. When you have 53 percent of these people saying, yeah. I want a socialist president in 2028.

GLENN: So socialism is not the answer. It is the symptom. It is the symptom of what people are feeling right now.

And they -- they don't know any other -- they don't -- nobody is presenting them with anything other than, you know, Republican/Democrat bullcrap. And socialists are coming at it from a completely nigh angle. Or so the youth think it's the oldest and most failed system of all time.

But they're seeing this as a solution that is different than what the party -- the Republican/Democrats are offering. Even though the Democrats are offering the socialism thing.

Number eight, do you think the American economy is unfair to young people?

Sixty-two percent say yes.

JUSTIN: Yeah, and 27 percent said no.
And I think that this really gets at the heart of what the issue is here.

When you look at the reasons. When you look at the detailed things of the poll.

What -- to try to find out if there's an association between some kind of demographic or response question about people's lives and their support for socialism, to see if there's a correlation there between something that is happening. And whether someone is a socialist or not.

One of the top correlations, connections, is, if people think the economy is unfair.

And if they're having trouble buying a home. Or they don't think they can buy a home. Or that's one of their reasons for supporting socialism.

So, in other words, there's this fairness issue. And it's not even about inequality.

It's not about, well, they have too much -- well, if they feel like the -- to use a Trump term. Rigged.

And throughout the data. That's what we see over and over and over again. Is lots of people say, the economy is rigged. For older people. For wealthier people, for corporations. It's rigged. And if they say, yeah. I think it's rigged, you know, then they're more likely to say, yeah. I want a socialist.

And I also think the same group has a relatively high approval rating of Donald Trump.

It's because the reason that a lot of young people like Trump in the poll, is that he's not part of the establishment.

And I think -- I don't think they -- I think a lot of young people who voted for Trump and who liked Trump, they didn't do it, because they liked free market, pro-liberty policies. And that's not a good thing.

But I don't think that's why they did it. I think a lot of them voted for Trump and supported him, because he's not the establishment. And that's what they don't like. They want to blow the establishment up.

JUSTIN: So my -- Justin, my sample size is my two young adults. My two children.

And they're like, talking to me, and saying, Dad. I will never be able to own a home, looking at the prices, looking at interest rates. They're like, I can't even afford to pay rent at an apartment. And they don't know what to do.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

JASON: And so they're looking at -- on, like, TikTok. And they're like, who is this Mamdani guy? This sounds interesting. They bring this to me. They grew up listening to me indoctrinating them their entire lives. They're looking at other voices like on TikTok. Are we just not being loud enough?

GLENN: No. We're not -- we're not connecting with them. We're not -- I feel like they don't feel they're being heard.

And we are speaking to them in red, white and be blue.

And that means nothing. The Statue of Liberty means nothing to them. Ellis Island means nothing to them. The flag means nothing to them.

It's all partisan politics.

They're all symbols of really, the two parties.

You know, and an America, they don't relate to at all.

I think that's -- that's our biggest problem, and not being able to break through. To your point, question nine. How confident are you that you will own a home at some point, in the next ten years?

29 percent say, they already own a home. Which I found interesting. That's -- I think a pretty high number for somebody who is 18 to 34 years old.

JUSTIN: Thirty-nine.

GLENN: Thirty-nine.

JUSTIN: Yeah.

GLENN: There's a lot of 18 to 30. That I didn't own home when I was, you know, 30. Just got a home when I was 30. But go ahead. Go ahead with the rest of that poll.

JUSTIN: Yeah. So then 21 percent said discouraged, but somewhat hopeful. 12 percent said, not confident. 10 percent said, you are convinced you will never own a home. 3 percent not sure.

So if you add up the negative responses, it's around 43 percent that gave that response.

GLENN: Right. But, again, 29 percent, you already own a home. And 25 percent you are confident you will own a home, is still good. It just -- these -- these other numbers, have, you know, discouraged, but hopefully you will own a home. Who is discouraging that? And how is that being discouraged?

You know, only 12 -- let's see 12. Twenty-two. 25 percent are not sure they will ever own a home. That's too high of a number.

But I -- I don't think that's completely dismal. Now, a completely dismal answer, to the question, would you support a law that would confiscate America's excess wealth?

Including things like second homes. Luxury cars, and private boats, in order to help young people buy a home for the first time?

Are you for or against that? We'll give you that number here in just a second.

GLENN: There are some disturbing results, that get very disturbing, going from here on.

We've got two of these today, and then more tomorrow.

We'll spend more time with you tomorrow, Justin.

But would you support a law that would confiscate American's excess wealth, including things like second home, luxury cars, and private boats in order to help young people buy a home for the first time? Get the results.

JUSTIN: Yeah, 25 percent strongly support that, 30 percent somewhat support it, 55 percent in total for support. Only 38 percent strongly or somewhat oppose, with just 20 percent saying strongly oppose. So the vast majority now is -- is supporting this Communistic policy to confiscate people's wealth in order to help people. Younger people buy homes, which is in line with that question, we talked about earlier. Where it said, you know, three-quarters of these respondents wanted to nationalize whole industries to make things fairer. So it's all about -- it's all about this sense of unfairness that exists.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

JUSTIN: And they feel like. Young people feel like the system is rigged. They feel like neither party is on their side, and they want to blow the whole thing up, by just taking wealth away from people, nationalizing whole industries, and redistributing it all.

And guess what, that's basically the democratic socialist platform. So it's not a surprise that that's -- that's becoming increasingly more popular with these young people.

And I don't think that free market, pro-liberty people are dealing with -- with this.

GLENN: No.

JUSTIN: In a real way.

In fact, I think a lot of us have believed recently that the wind is at our backs, and we're actually winning more and more young people over.
And that isn't what's happening according to the poll results.

GLENN: It explains why the Democrats have not moved their position off of the socialism stuff.

Doesn't it?

We keep saying, why? It's not working with anybody.

It is working. It is working with people under 39.

18 to 39-year-olds are hearing this message, and are embracing this message.