PAT: Happy Presidents Day. I guess pretty much every year it's traditional that they -- they do some sort of ranking the presidents who have been president of the United States. And who is this one from, Stu?
STU: That's a good question. By C-SPAN, I believe. C-SPAN does this, I guess, every year, and they get a bunch of historians -- 50 historians or so. One hundred historians. And they believe up with a list of who is the best.
And it's always --
PAT: One hundred historians. You know this is going to be -- this is going to be liberally biased, I would assume.
PAT: It's just a wild guess of mine. Just a stab in the dark.
JEFFY: But you don't know that.
PAT: I don't know that for a fact. So...
STU: Shocking, yeah. Number one is going to be -- let's see. Blaze story. Blaze has the list up there.
PAT: Let's see if we can guess who number one is. Who would you think, Jeffy, if you had to guess, 100 historians.
JEFFY: Off the top of my head?
PAT: I'm going to say --
JEFFY: It's going to be -- it's going to have to be either WW, right? Woodrow or Franklin, right? Or Roosevelt.
PAT: It's got to be FDR.
STU: No. Come on, guys. Look, we know they are biased. But you're going to put either Lincoln or George Washington at number one. Is that a surprise?
PAT: Really? No, not usually. A lot of times it's FDR.
STU: My understanding is it's always been Lincoln or Washington.
JEFFY: Oh, okay.
STU: And top ten, number one is Abraham Lincoln.
PAT: Abraham Lincoln is a good choice. I can't argue with that. I mean, I get this email from this Abe Lincoln hater every single time we mention his name.
PAT: You do too?
JEFFY: I believe I'm copied on that.
PAT: Like come on, man. Has history not exonerated this guy by now? Because I think so. Did he do some extraordinary things for extraordinary times? Yes, he did. But he gave back the power, which is also extraordinary. The guy was amazing. And I love Abraham Lincoln. And I don't care how many emails I get on the subject, I'm still going to love Abraham Lincoln. So I've got no issue with that, with Abe being number one.
STU: Yeah, you put it in perspective, here's a guy who went through basically the most till --
PAT: Most difficult time in our.
STU: We talk about, "Well, we're very divided." We had a Civil War. We were more divided then, I can assure you.
PAT: Not as divided as we were, that's for sure. So Abe was number one. Was George number two?
STU: George Washington, number two.
PAT: That's pretty good. I'm okay with that so far.
STU: Not a huge surprise. Again, you want to talk about a guy who surrendered power.
PAT: Yes. A guy who was offered to be king. They asked him, in fact, would you -- you should consider being king. And he told them not to even bring that up to him again. Don't even mention that to me again.
STU: Do you think we would get that from today's politicians?
PAT: Oh, jeez. No, no.
STU: Really? So you're saying no?
PAT: No. I'm kind of saying no.
STU: So here's the -- this is looking back. In 2000, Abraham Lincoln was number one. 2009, number one. 2017, number one. So he's been number one for all three of the years they've done this.