GLENNMarch 29, 2017

Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Kick It 'Old School'

Nobody has ever dared to call Bill O'Reilly a snowflake, he's what they call "old school" and the two are diametrically opposed to each other. Bill joined Glenn Wednesday on radio to talk about his new book Old School: Life in the Sane Lane and where he sees society heading. O'Reilly explained how snowflakes play the victim and avoid "triggers" while people who are 'old school' and self-reliant and get the job done on their own.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly.

PAT: Oh, boy.

GLENN: How are you doing, man?

BILL: All right. How are you guys?

PAT: You know, we're -- we're concerned.

GLENN: We are. We're very concerned.

PAT: What did you say? Concerned.

GLENN: Very concerned. Very concerned.

BILL: I bet you guys are.

GLENN: We heard this on Fox & Friends, and go ahead, roll the tape.

VOICE: Maxine Waters.

VOICE: I love her.

VOICE: Wait. Why do you love her?

VOICE: Maxine Waters should have her own sitcom. Okay? All right? It's just -- I just -- you know, people get angry with Maxine Waters. I want more of it.

VOICE: So what does that mean, Bill? We've been listening all morning --

VOICE: I didn't hear a word she said. I was looking at the James Brown wig.

GLENN: Wow. Oh, my gosh.

STU: Oh, my gosh.

PAT: Oh.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

PAT: Oh, my.

GLENN: Now, we have the side by side here, and she may actually be wearing James Brown's wig. But we don't say those things. You know, Bill, do you think Maxine or anybody on the left is going to make fun of Donald Trump's hair? No. No. You don't do that.

BILL: Of course. And if I had said it about, you know, Pamela Anderson or somebody like that, nobody would have cared. But it was stupid. It was a stupid line, and I apologize for it.

GLENN: This is why we're concerned, Bill. This is why we're concerned.

BILL: I know. I know. You guys -- not for what I said. But because I apologized.

GLENN: Yeah.

BILL: There's a legitimate -- there's a legitimate point -- and it has nothing to do with color. But it has to do with politics. That the politics of the far left, all right? Are so destructive to the nation at this point in history, that this should be a page one story. That no matter what the Republican Congress does, no matter what the president does, they're going to oppose and try to destroy. That's a huge story. Huge. And you see it with Neil Gorsuch. And you see it with the health care. You see it all the way down the line. So for me, trying to make this point, to say an immature point about Ms. Waters was just stupid, because I gave the enemy a sword in which to stab me to death, which they tried to use.

So you look at it -- if I had -- and if I had to do it again, I would have never said anything like that. I like her in the sense that she will say what's on her mind.

GLENN: Now, I will tell you, long before Donald Trump was ever a candidate, I went to --

BILL: Yeah.

GLENN: I was forced to go to a Larry King, I don't know, 180 birthday party.

BILL: Right.

GLENN: And it was in Manhattan. And Donald Trump and his wife walked in the room. And Tania and I happened to be sitting there -- or, standing there. And we talked to him for a while. And as he walked away, we both said, "A, we don't know how he gets his hair to do that. And didn't have a recollection of anything he talked to us about, because we were just staring at his hair." I've told that story a million times. Nobody -- I'm not in trouble.

BILL: No. But because I did something which I consider -- and this is honest. I consider that a mistake, what I did.

And I can't point to other people doing whatever. I think everybody -- fair-minded people know what kind of country we're living in now. The charges of racism are all over the place. If you disagree with someone, you're a racist. Okay? It's horrible. It's terrible. And these are the stories you should be talking about.

It's interesting to note that I don't know whether you know about the taladega college situation, where their band was invited to go to the inauguration. Beck, do you know about that? Black college in Louisiana, Talladega College. They were invited to appear at the inauguration. The tornadoes.

GLENN: They're -- no.

BILL: Talladega tornadoes. Unbelievable marching band, okay?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. I do know this, yeah.

BILL: So I raised $150,000 for the band to come to Washington to perform at the inauguration and for the college scholarship fund. 150K, all right? We raised. Not one left-wing website or newspaper picked it up and mentioned it. Not one. Okay?

PAT: Yeah.

BILL: So this is the world we live in now. This is what we live in.

But, again, I apologize to Ms. Waters. I'd love to have her on my program because I can talk issues with her.

STU: But your point on Maxine Waters, generally speaking, is a great one in that the reason why you have to love Maxine Waters -- and Bernie Sanders falls into this group as well.

BILL: Absolutely. Good observation. Absolutely.

STU: He will come out and say it. He'll come out and say, we're going for single-payer health care.

GLENN: Right. When Maxine Waters came out with the oil companies -- and we -- I'll tell you what will happen. We'll own -- we'll socialize -- or, basically take over.

PAT: Take over.

GLENN: Remember that phrase?

STU: Yeah, she'll blurt it out.

GLENN: She'll say it. She'll say it.

And that's why she's great. In a crazy sort of way.

BILL: She'll say it. Yeah. And I think we all should respect people who put their ideology clearly.

GLENN: Well, I don't think she does it intentionally.

BILL: Now, unfortunately -- yeah, all of this is lost in our culture of hate. You know, the reason why I'm talking to you -- not that I wouldn't talk to you, Beck. You're my pal. I'd talk to you anytime. But I got the number one book on Amazon, just out yesterday. Called Old School: Life in the Sane Lane. This is the perfect example of what we're talking about.

PAT: You're not killing anybody yet in this one? Oh, wow.

BILL: No. The next -- the next time it occurs in September.

GLENN: So wait a minute. So I read your book, Bill.

BILL: You actually read it, Beck? Thank you. Very flattered. Very flattered.

GLENN: I actually read it. It was excruciating, but I read it.

(laughter)

BILL: To qualify that, for you to read anything is excruciating.

GLENN: No, no. I'm reading several good books, and I read yours.

So in it, you tell some great stories. And I can relate to a lot of this. But do you think that old school is coming back?

BILL: I think it could come back. But the far left has been very effective in demonizing people who are old school.

GLENN: Explain what old school means to you.

BILL: It's basically a point of view. It doesn't have anything to do with values, by the way. That is totally different. Because you can be a liberal, and you can be old school, all right? You can be conservative and old school. Or you can be conservative and a snowflake. It has to do with point of view. And if you want to essentially boil it down to, the old school point of view is self-reliance. Okay?

You have to live your life. You have to succeed on your own. You can get help. That's fine. But it's basically you driving your success or failure. You driving your achievements or lack thereof. That's the old school philosophy.

The snowflake philosophy is totally opposite. I'm a victim. Everybody is bad. Look at this. I need a safe space. I need -- there's a trigger. Get that trigger away from me.

They can't basically tough out hard times. They fall apart. Snowflakes. They melt. So that's the two competing points of view now in the country. And you see what's happening on college campuses. Snowflake Bill has taken over. Taken over. And the media too. Absolutely in the media. Snowflake central. You know, the mainstream national media. So self-reliant people are the villains. The achievers are the bad people.

And the people who don't have or can't do it or can't buy their insurance, they're the victims. And the oppressive old school society is keeping them down.

GLENN: But isn't old school -- isn't old school, though, Bill, also about fierce independence? I mean, I think both sides right now --

BILL: Yeah, that's self-reliance. Fierce independence. Same thing. You're an old school guy.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. I think, Bill, that there is a -- a lot of people in the right media, that if you don't agree with Donald Trump, you don't have a -- I mean, you're part of the problem. You are --

BILL: But that's political. Yeah, that's political.

And old school doesn't really have anything to do with politics. It has to do with a personal philosophy.

Beck is old school. Okay? Because you have a belief system. All right?

So Glenn Beck has a belief system, which he talks about on his radio and television programs and debates others whose system isn't the same. But we all know what your system is. We all know what your belief system is. That's old school. You don't change every hour on the hour. Every week, you're different.

And that's all I'm saying. Old school doesn't have to do with politics. It has to do with personal point of view.

STU: Bill, I think an example of this potentially is -- I was listening to an interview with a New York Times crime reporter, and they were talking about how the media has changed in the way they cover police officers. And one of the examples they use is that journalism itself used to be a blue-collar job. It was this job where you mixed it up. You knew the cops. You understood the way that they worked. And it's changed to this sort of high educated thing, where they now seem to be judging the police. And that sort of old school mentality was, if you want do cover these things, you got into the middle of it. Isn't that part of it?

BILL: Well, my grandfather was an NYPD officer. And my father was a naval officer in World War II.

GLENN: Hang on. I'm having a hard time getting my arms around Officer O'Reilly, in New York, that was unheard of.

BILL: Yeah. So they had points of view that were old school, that there's right and wrong, here's how you behave, here's how you treat people, and all that. And the reporters who covered them, who covered my grandfather in the 1930s had the same values. Same exact values. But now, many of the reporters in -- and newspapers, in particular, TV as well, their values are totally different and totally opposite the law enforcement. There is no right and wrong. There's always a gray area. There's always an excuse, okay? It's not all --

GLENN: What gives you --

BILL: So they're not sympathetic to the cops.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: What gives you the feeling these values will come back around? This philosophy of, "Hey, I've got to be rigorous on the truth." I've got to be -- you know, I've got to, you know, pull my own weight. I've got to be decent to everybody. I mean, what makes you think this is going to come back around?

BILL: Well, I'm a hopeful guy in a sense that there's cycles in every country. And we're in a Civil War now, no doubt about it, okay? Cultural Civil War, which is why Trump was elected.

And if Trump is successful in -- in his economics, that's what it's all about. Bringing jobs and higher wages. Then he'll be reelected for another term. It's all about economics.

So it's not that Trump is an old school guy. I can't say whether he is or isn't. I just don't know him that well.

But it gives hope to the people that are rejecting this PC culture. Because certainly Donald Trump is not politically correct, right?

So if he -- if his power, all right? Consolidates. And he has a long run in the White House, that's going to give the anti-PC forces a real advantage.

Now, will they take advantage of it? I don't know.

GLENN: You think Gorsuch is going to get through?

BILL: Yes, of course.

GLENN: Are they going to make -- the Democrats going to make the Republicans use the nuclear option?

BILL: Maybe. I mean, it's a head count situation. There might be four or five Democrats that might go over. But it will probably top out at about 57. The Republican Party isn't going to sit around anymore and take this stuff. They can't because they look weak now. The Republicans look weak now. They have to look strong.

GLENN: What do you think about Trump saying over the weekend that this was the Heritage Foundation and the Freedom Caucus' fault and he was going to start looking to cobble together some Democrats to bring them in, what do you think of that?

BILL: I don't think that's possible. I think the Democratic Party, at this point, is in lockstep. Because they're afraid. They're afraid of Chuck Schumer. And they're afraid of Pelosi. Because if they go against them, then those people will actively try to destroy their careers. There's a lot of fear on the Hill, not so much in the Republican precincts. They don't fear Trump, at this point.

GLENN: You saw the video of --

BILL: But they do fear Schumer and Pelosi.

GLENN: You saw the video of Nancy Pelosi being booed in her own townhall in San Francisco. I mean, that old guard is looking very old.

BILL: Well, that's right. That's right.

GLENN: And it's not working anymore.

BILL: And there's a new poll out today from Berkeley that says in California, it's about 50/50 sanctuary city support. So about half of Californians don't want sanctuary cities. So there is a trend away from the madness, but whether there's going to be a leader emerge for the old school army, that's what is necessary. And I don't know if that's going to happen or not.

GLENN: Bill O'Reilly. Great book. Life in the Sane Lane. It's called Old School. Came out yesterday. Already number one. And it will be number one until this guy -- I think he's probably a cyborg at this point. I think Bill O'Reilly may have died five years ago, and we're just keeping him alive just to pump out books. But it will be number one, until -- until somehow or another an EMP goes off and all of a sudden you see Bill O'Reilly's program. And all of a sudden Bill O'Reilly goes (sound effect). That's when it will exposed.

Bill O'Reilly, Old School. Thank you so much, Bill. We'll talk to you again.

BILL: All right. Thanks for reading the book, Beck. Talk soon, bye.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.

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Meet the pro-Intifada candidate NYC Democrats just elected

New York City Democrats just elected 33-year-old Zohran Mamdani, a "socialist Muslim", as the Party's candidate for mayor. But Glenn Beck argues that his radical beliefs are actually communist and Islamist.

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

VOICE: Z10852. Something weird is going on. The World Trade Center is on fire.

VOICE: Seriously the top of the building. We're trying to get information.

VOICE: Top level of one of the --

VOICE: To unfold from New York City.

VOICE: A plane crashed just --

VOICE: My sister is in that believe. I hope she's okay. I have to come to New York.

VOICE: It's pandemonium.

VOICE: It's raining papers.

VOICE: Wait a minute! Stop just a second. Why are we -- why are we -- I've got breaking news. Breaking news, yesterday. New York City just elected as their mayoral candidate for the left. And the Democrats, a -- a Muslim radical, who is also a communist!

So, you know, it only took you 25 years. It only took you 25 years, New York, to go completely insane.

Somebody who is -- well, I mean, if I might quote Michael malice today. I am old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9/11 instead of voting for it.

But you've got a -- you've got a communist jihadist apologist now.

Who was -- you know, well, CAIR put $100,000 behind his bid for New York City mayor.

So you have somebody who is endorsed by CAIR. That's really good.

He also was somebody who said, you know, he was -- he was for the shooting of the United Health Care CEO.

Said he was looking forward to driving down magnum Joan avenue. I don't know. Sounds like supporting people in the streets. Maybe it's just me.

Then he also said that he was going to globalize the intifada, which I think that's -- maybe -- maybe that's just me.

I mean, what do I know?

Tim Miller who is a podcaster. Asked him a few weeks ago. Asked him about his pro Palestinian slogan. Globalized the intifada. And he said, for me, ultimately, what I hear in so many, is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights, in standing up for Palistinian human rights. Oh, is that what you hear, Mr. CAIR?

Really? Huh, that's interesting.

Right. So globalize the intifada.

I mean, I mean, sure, that's -- I mean well, let me go on.

Because I don't want to take him out of context.

He then delved into the semantics of the intifada, citing the United States Holocaust memorial museum's use of a word for a translation for uprising, in an Arabic version of an article, a museum published about the Warsaw ghetto.

Oh!

So this is just a comparison, about the -- the armed rebellion against the Nazis!

I don't know if that makes me feel better!

I mean, if we're globalizing that.

We're the Nazis in this scenario.

Because I don't think it's the Palestinians.

I certainly don't think it's anybody who is like, hey.

Global jihad. I don't think it's those guys.

Or the Nazis. Who are the Nazis in that?

And it seems, if that's what you mean, then it's not just a harmless kind of slogan about human rights. It is a call for violence on the streets.

Because I don't know if you know, that's what happened when the Jews had their uprising against the Nazis.

I'm just saying!

But, hey, hey, free Palestine.

Oh, that's not what that means, gang. That is not what that means, but don't worry about it. He's just going to be possibly the new mayor.

And that's great. By the way, the Columbia faculty members signed a letter defending Hamas.

They were also among the donors to his mayoral campaign.

So, you know, you don't have anything to worry about.

And his father, who used to work at Columbia. Do you know, Stu?

Is his Dad -- is he still a professor at Columbia University?

He said that -- this violent terror thing of Islam, is not a part of Islam. Now, I've read the Koran, and much of the hadith.

And I'm pretty sure the violence is a part of that. But no.

No. This is something entirely new.

And his father while at Columbia university, wanted everybody to know, that this is actually -- this is something that came out of America!

America is really responsible for this.

And, you know, it really started with the Reagan administration, you know, when he started -- when he started with his very religious terms, to finish the war against the evil empire.

So, you know, that's where -- that's where 9/11 came from.

Is what -- don't worry about it! Don't worry about it!

Because who am I? I'm clearly just -- am I an anti-Semite today, or am I an Islamophobic? I can't remember which one.

Oh, it's probably both. Anyway, Islamophobia. Let me just explain Islamophobia. I haven't even gotten to the Communist part of it. Which is really, really -- New York, you're in one for hell of a ride. Buckle up.

It will be a fun rollercoaster for you. My gosh, I've never been happier that I've been away are if New York.

Anyway, I just want I to know, there is Islam. And then there is Islamists. Now, an Islamist is somebody who really wants Sharia law.

That's political Islam!

That's not a faith. That's political Islam.

Now, let me make really -- something really clear. Criticizing Islamism, is not Islamophobia. Pointing out the dangers of, oh. I don't know.

Political Islam. The ideology that seeks to use the tools of democracy, ultimately to destroy democracy, is not an attack on Muslims.

No. Uh-uh.

You know why?

Because Muslims are often the first people in line.

The first victims of the ideology.

So let's draw a bright, bright line between Islam as a faith, millions of people can practice that faithfully and peacefully.

It's mostly peaceful, okay?

Then there's the Islamism.

Islamism is something entirely -- that's a political project.

A theocratic political -- oh. Left loves theocracies. They love it.

Of course, you never see a problem with it.

See it when an Islamist is touting it. Anyway, it's not about prayer. It's not about fasting. It's not about spiritual life.

It's all about power. It's about merging of mosque and state. It's about implementing Sharia, not as a personal code of conduct. But as a governing legal system.

And it's -- it's supremacy.

Absolutely. Faith.

Religion.

It's -- there's one thing that's supreme.

It's misogynistic.

Deeply intolerant of all kinds of things.

Descent. Secularism. Other faiths. Even competing interpretations from inside the faith itself.

It will behead them too.

So let's -- let's be honest here for a second.

You know, CAIR should be labeled an international terror organization.

In my opinion. In my opinion.

Oh, does that make me -- that makes me an Islamophobe. I'm sure. I'm sure they will start a campaign against me on being an Islamophobe.

Stand in line, guys. You've been doing it since 2001, okay?

I don't really care. And I don't think the American people. I think that record, all the grooves are worn-out on that one, okay?

This is not a religion we're talking about. When we're talking about Sharia law. And we're talking about globalize the intifada. What does that mean, actually, to globalize it?

Does that mean we now want to do what is happening to Israel? All over the world?

Has the Palestinian plight become our plight you now, as Americans?

That there has to be an intifada here!

Because it's the kind of the same. You know. It's kind of the same over, you know, with what the Palestinians are going through.

Well, it's very much like what the Jews went through with the Nazis.

That's a weird one. That one makes my head hurt. It's very much the same as that. And very much the same as the fight against Donald Trump.

Oh, this is going to be fun. It's fun!

Really fun. You know, the irony here is, the ones that will scream Islamophobia the most, are the ones in the progressive left, the champions of feminism, LGBTQ rights. And secularism.

They're going to -- no. You want -- they're going to stand with the people, who want to kill them first.

See, this is how smart they are!

This is why it's going to work out well, in New York City.

Let me just say. If you have an ounce of common sense, you run a business, you have an ounce of wealth. And I don't mean wealth like, you know, hey, Lovey.

Let's get on the boat for a three-hour tour with a suitcase full of cash. I mean you saved anything, anything, get the hell out of New York City.

I mean, this is about survival. This is about free speech. This is about women's rights.
Religious pluralism. Secular legal systems. Liberal democracy.

But it's also about failed principles of Communism. Okay?

First, you have to call out political Islam for what it is. Okay?

And we have to do it with the clarity that we call out white nationalism.

Got to do it with that. Got to -- you know, the Klan. Really bad people.

Really bad people.

Anybody who is shouting for globalized intifada?

Pretty bad. Pretty bad people.

Okay?

Now, let's get to communism.

Because that's another cool, cool angle of the new Democratic candidate for -- for mayor of New York City.

That I just -- I think is cuddly and cute. Sure, it led to 100 million deaths. But this time, New York is going to be radically different. Oh, did I use the word radical?

I didn't mean to use that. What's radical about this guy?

Nothing. He's just like you!

Well, not exactly.

But let's talk about communism, next!

Now, the new mayoral candidate that's running there in New York City. That so many young people rushed to defend and vote for. He's promising free buses.

That's going to work out.

Where are you going to get the money for free buses.

It's free!

City-run grocery stores.

Oh, rent freezes. And finally somebody has done it. A 30-dollar minimum wage.

So under the banner of equity. And, you know, we will tax the wealthy. And the corporations. You know, we're going to squeeze another $10 billion out of them.

Really?

Because they're going to call a U-Haul.

You know, they will call something like U-Haul. There will be a lot of -- there will be a lot of movers that are like, how do I get the truck back from Texas or Florida back up to New York? Nobody is moving up there.

But he's going to do it.

Now, his vision isn't really new. You know, just -- just tax people, so we could have city-run grocery stores. You know, I remember -- I'm old enough to remember those city-run grocery stores in Moscow.

They were great.

The shelves were empty.

But that's just Moscow.

It worked out completely different in Venezuela.

Where, oh, no.

It didn't. That's right. The grocery store.

They were eating the zoo animals.

But it will be different in New York.

Because they have rent controls too.

And that will just choke the housing supply, but don't worry. As a young family.

You know, you voted for it.

You know better.

It will work this time.

So, you know, I like building ideas, I just don't like usually building on the graves of 100 million people.

But, you know, why not? Why not?

You know, use this dogma.

And this time, it will be different. It's not like it was in China. Where the great leap forward, was a gross -- a gross parody of progress. Venezuela, which was oil rich. One of the richest nations in the hemisphere now sees 90 percent of its population in poverty!

Yeah. Darn it. You know what they did?

They decided to take state control of things.

You know, like grocery stores. And it worked out well. How is that free busing working out in Venezuela?

I just want to -- I just want to know.

Anyway, then you've got the globalize the intifada. Which is going to drop a little violence in, and anti-Semitism in with your communism.

Which is weird!

Because violence and anti-Semitism, always happen. When it -- when it comes to -- when it comes to communism.

This is weird!

I've got to play something for you. Because this has talked about on me earlier this morning.

Oh, wow.

Wait a minute. This is -- this is the whole coalition coming together here.

So this is going to be good. New York, this is going to be great.

It's going to be great for you.

No. He's going to uplift you. Then the social fabric of New York City is just going to be -- just one.

It's going to be fantastic. Don't worry about your 120 billion dollars in debt. Or your 10 billion-dollar deficit that you have right now.

You are going to charge the rich more taxes, and they will stay right there.

They will be like, you know what, that 46 percent in taxes that I'm paying, this is just not enough. It's just not enough.

I need to pay 60 or 70 percent to be able to pay my fair share. So that's good. That's good. That's good.

You know, they're not risking 100 million people. It's just 8 million people.

This time, it's just 8 million people.

But, hey. For those of you in upstate New York. That aren't going to be part of this experiment.

Don't worry, you get to pay for it. Because they'll kick it up to the state. The state will have to subsidize everything. And don't you love it?

Really, don't you want to subsidize the really crazy ideas of New York City?

I mean, why don't you have a -- why don't you have a democratic socialist. A/k/a communist mayor.

Why haven't you done that? Are you not progressive enough? Are you not looking into the future?

Are you stuck in the past?

I don't know. I don't know. The graveyard is pretty big. I have a hard time getting past that one. You know, yeah, so I'm stuck in the past. Because I can't seem to pass that graveyard, and get to be down the path with you. But it's going to be a paradise.

Forget arithmetic. You know, or human nature. This time, it's going to work. It's going to work. So all right!

Wish I lived in this morning.

No wait. Nope. I don't. Nope, I don't.

And Ted Cruz, stop it. Stop writing, hey, come to Texas. No. No. Don't come to Texas. Don't come to Florida. Go to California. It's beautiful this time of year. Go there. Go there.

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