GLENN: There's a story out today about San Francisco, about how the city is standing up and saying, "We're a sanctuary city, and we are --
PAT: They're suing the Trump administration.
PAT: They claim it violates federalism.
PAT: And makes their city less safe. Both Seattle and San Francisco.
GLENN: Wait. Wait. They're suddenly for state rights? Is that what I'm hearing?
JEFFY: Yes, they are.
PAT: Yes, they are.
GLENN: I thought that was racist. I thought that was very racist for them to say that.
PAT: Both Seattle and San Francisco were saying that it makes their cities less safe to enforce --
GLENN: That doesn't make any sense.
PAT: It's so ridiculous. They claim that people won't report crimes if they're afraid that they'll be arrested and deported.
GLENN: Well, I can see that. And it is less safe for the -- for the illegal aliens, which is a reason why you don't come to a country illegally.
GLENN: Yes, you're right. If you're here illegally, you won't -- you won't report a crime of somebody who has done something to you. You're right. I've seen that in a million movies. When you've done something wrong, the bad guys will play on you. Yep. Yep. That's right.
PAT: Well, and that's what happens in every case with illegal aliens. They're taken advantage of, aren't they?
GLENN: Yes, they are.
PAT: They're taken advantage of with poor wages. They're taken advantage of in housing. They're taken advantage of with the law.
GLENN: And that's true. That's true.
STU: Yeah, but it's true.
PAT: But they put themselves in that situation.
STU: Somehow, it's the nice side of this argument to say that that should continue. They should be able to continually be taken advantage of with lower wages.
PAT: Right. It's madness.
STU: And all of these things that are true. Wouldn't the proper way to go is to make sure that people don't come here illegally, and then you don't have to deal with that?
STU: That's probably the better option. Probably the better option.