GLENN: Anybody watch the show Emerald City?
PAT: No.
STU: No.
GLENN: So Emerald City, the end of the season --
STU: What is this?
GLENN: NBC show. So at the end of the season, they had Ozma, who is this princess, okay? She's been lost. Well, you find out that Ozma --
PAT: Is this the spoiler alert for people --
GLENN: Yeah, spoiler alert. Well, I mean, we're going to talk about stuff. We're going to talk about life from time to time. It's an NBC show. And it doesn't really wreck anything.
This kid who has been kept by a witch, locked in this room forever, and escaped. And she kept giving him this medicine. Otherwise, he would die.
She was protecting him because he is not a he. He's a she. So in the last two episodes --
PAT: Oh.
GLENN: She's he -- he is wearing a dress, and he's like, "I feel like a boy inside. I don't want to be a girl. You don't know the struggle."
PAT: Oh, boy.
GLENN: I think it's the first kid trans hero of network television. And notice, nobody is really talking about it.
PAT: No. Nobody cares anymore.
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GLENN: You know what's -- you know what's strange to me is how we have gone from a country 15 years ago and you can look at some of this and say, "This is really good." And some of it, not so good.
We are a country that has such tolerance, that while we are at war with Islam, we need -- and we are Islamists. While we're at war with Islamists, we elect a guy named Barack Obama.
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: That it just -- we know the difference.
PAT: Barack Hussein Obama.
GLENN: Yeah, Barack Hussein Obama. We know the difference. It's not like, oh, my gosh. Look at -- they all have slant eyes. Quick, let's put them in internment camps. We're not that people anymore.
PAT: No.
GLENN: We've gone from a country that 15 years ago it was a big deal to have Ellen have a kiss on her show.
JEFFY: Yeah.
GLENN: First lesbian kiss.
Now -- right? Wasn't it, Stu?
STU: Wasn't it Roseanne had the first --
JEFFY: I was just going to say, I think Roseanne did have the first one. But Ellen was --
STU: She was the first openly gay character, I think. That like --
JEFFY: It was a big deal.
GLENN: Was it?
STU: First openly gay character that had her own shoe, I think, was the -- she had some barrier --
GLENN: No, there was some --
JEFFY: She did have the big kiss.
GLENN: I remember -- because I remember there was a show that was important.
JEFFY: That was over the top, yes.
PAT: Yes.
GLENN: And I don't remember what it was.
STU: That was her coming out, wasn't it?
GLENN: I don't remember. But I remember it was a big deal. And even then, I don't think America had a problem with that episode. America had a problem with the agenda, that it just became the agenda, you know what I mean?
PAT: Right.
And what is it, 98 percent of all shows now feature homosexual encounters? I mean, it feels like that. It feels like that.
GLENN: Especially if you watch the BBC, it's almost every show.
JEFFY: Oh, yeah.
GLENN: And I was just telling you about, Oz, I don't know if this is where they're going. But you can't not see the parallels of what we're talking about. Here's something that we are still discussing, transgendered bathrooms.
And, by the way, for anybody who says that, you know, it's not a problem -- did you guys hear the woman from Disneyland. She went to Disneyland.
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: She said I was off to the side waiting with the two boys when I noticed a man walk into the restroom.
My first thought was, oh, crap, he's walked into the wrong restroom by mistake. He took a few more steps. At which point, he would definitely notice all the women lined up, and he kept walking.
My next thought was, maybe he's looking for his wife or his child. They had been in there for a while.
But he didn't call out any names or look around. He just stood there off to the side and leaned against the wall. At this point, I'm like WTF.
(chuckling)
GLENN: There is definitely a very large burly man in a Lakers' jersey who just walked in here. Am I the only one seeing this?
I surveyed the room, and I saw roughly 12 women and children in tow, staring at him with the exact same look on their faces. Everyone was visibly uncomfortable.
We were all trading looks and motioning with our eyes over to him. Like, what's had he doing in here? Every single one of us was silent. This is why I wrote this blog.
PAT: I mean, think of that. You're supposed to be okay with that. Right?
JEFFY: Yeah.
PAT: They're haters now. They're made to feel like you're not supposed to say anything. And that's what she kind of goes through here.
GLENN: She says, if this had been five years ago, you bet your ass every woman in here would have been like, what are you doing in here? But in 2017, the mood has shifted. We've been culturally bullied into silence.
PAT: Yep.
GLENN: Women were mid-changing their baby's diapers on changing tables. I could see them shifting to block his view, but they remained silent. I stayed silent. We all did.
Every woman who exited a stall and immediately zeroed in on him said nothing. And why? Because and I'm sure all others were scared of the, what if. What if I say something and he identifies as a woman? And then I come off as the intolerant one in the happiest place on earth.
STU: And I got news for you, in local news reports and national news reports, that would follow. You would be presented that way.
JEFFY: Yes, you would.
GLENN: Yep. Yep.
PAT: And, again, this guy is not identifying -- he's not saying anything about being a woman. He's just being a guy leering at women in the bathroom.
STU: And knowing he can now get away with it.
PAT: Which is what we said would be the problem the whole time.
STU: Yep.
GLENN: An older lady said to me out loud, what is he doing in here? I'm ashamed to admit I silently shrugged and mouthed, I don't know. She immediately walked out. I saw two other people leave with their children.
This is why -- and this is why pushing for laws to allow anyone to use the bathroom, whatever they identify with is absurd and dangerous. Before 2017, we shared the ladies' room with transgendered people, and we either didn't know, or we never said anything because we knew we weren't in danger. It's something you didn't talk about. You just pee and leave.
But the making of a capital case out of it, literally inviting anyone into a female safe space, the government has put women and children at risk for peeping Toms, rapists, pedophiles, drunks, and vagrants. Predators already capitalize and count on women's reluctance to fight back or speak out. Now it's worse because if you do speak up, you'll be labeled transphobic, and the predators know it. She goes on. This is quite an amazing thing.
She goes on. She was for -- she was for, you know, tolerance and everything else.
PAT: Yeah.
GLENN: She now has experienced for herself. The moral of the story is speak up, ladies. If a man walks into the bathroom, don't stop and think about it. Start yelling, get out, while dialing 911. Take whatever criticism any loon wants to throw at you. Your life and the lives of your children are worth more than public opinion.
JEFFY: Good luck.
PAT: And, again, that happened at Disneyland. Disneyland.
GLENN: So here's what -- and isn't Disneyland the place to go if you're a pedophile? You go by yourself.
STU: I will say, it's not in their advertisements, if that's true. That is not their slogan.
GLENN: No. It's not.
STU: The place to go if you're a pedophile!
GLENN: You know they hang out where there's children.
STU: Well, of course.
GLENN: Just leering at children.
STU: Of course.
GLENN: I mean, it only makes sense.
GLENN: The thing is -- remember when I went over to Auschwitz and I met with the woman, Paulina, she's the -- I know. I'm the only person who can make --
STU: We're joking about a ridiculous Disney slogan. You brought it to Auschwitz in 12 seconds. You're the only person in America who could do this.
GLENN: That's the charm of this show. That's why we are where we are. So, anyway, I brought this -- we met this woman named Paulina. I've told this story a million times. What did she say?
She's a woman who saved the Christians from the Germans.
PAT: She just didn't go off the cliff with the rest of the people.
GLENN: Right. That makes more sense to me now than ever before.
PAT: Yeah. She said, "The righteous didn't suddenly become righteous. We just didn't go off the cliff with the rest of humanity." Meaning, we just stood in place. We just continued to do the things we always would have done. Which is her point.
PAT: And we did something. They hid Jews. We can do something. All you have to do is speak up and say, "Get out of here. Get out. Get out of this bathroom."
JEFFY: Well, the people are speaking up a little bit with their money though because according to Marvel, their sales have been struggling. They've been wanting to sell more comics. And while feminists and progressive activists pushed for more diversity in comics, minority and female heroes, Dan Gabriel, senior vice president of sales, Marvel's core fan base just wasn't interested.
PAT: How about that? How about that?
GLENN: I will tell you this, I talk to Raphe all the time about going to get comic books. And let's get into comic books. Won't do it. Don't know where a local comic bookstore is even in Dallas. But want to go to a comic bookstore and get all the old ones. I don't want the new ones.
Just, I'm not interested. I'm not interested.
JEFFY: Yeah, he said we saw the sales of any character that was diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything that was not a core Marvel character --
GLENN: Nothing.
JEFFY: -- no sales.
STU: Not interested. Well, because they don't -- no one minds having a different character, having diversity. It's when it feels forced that people reject it.
GLENN: It's an agenda.
STU: When you're trying to make -- you know what, as a comic book, I'm going there -- if I'm going to read comic books, I'm going there to be entertained, be part of the story. You're not going there to be lectured by people about who you're supposed to accept and not accept.
GLENN: For instance -- for instance, didn't have a problem with Ozma from the Wizard of Oz because I don't know if that's the story or if they were trying to make it a political point.
Now, my radar is up on political point, so I thought -- I just assume, this is a political point. Stop it.
However, it might just be that that's logical, if he was -- if she was transformed by a motion into a girl. However, I just don't think that this is -- I mean, five years ago, ten years ago, that story line wouldn't have stuck out at all. You would be like, oh, wow. Yeah, that would suck. You see yourself -- right? But now, is NBC -- and it's NBC, that's another reason. Is NBC now telling us, oh, yes, the planet is on fire. You have to do something about the planet. And the progressive way of life is absolutely the right way of life. And, oh, look, here's this poor little character who is a kid who sees him -- sees herself as a him.
I mean...
PAT: Uh-huh.
STU: Well, it goes to your point -- we talked about this with Beauty and the Beast. Is that everyone was like, oh, there could be a gay character. The story is about bestiality.
JEFFY: Right.
GLENN: Right.
STU: We're all fine with the bestiality story for decades. But it's like, wait a minute. You're starting to see these things because a lot of times it is about agenda. I think it was NBC that aired it a few weeks ago. And I don't know, it was some mini-series about the struggle of gay Americans and something. And, look, there's been -- there are amazing stories in this world. I'm glad they're told. The one about World War II --
GLENN: Turing.
STU: Yeah, Alan Turing, that just came out. I mean, I'm glad these stories are coming out.
However, they just represent it in such a bizarre way. Like, they had this one conversation between like a son and his dad. And I just happened to flip it on. And the son is like, Dad, I want you to know that I'm gay.
No, you will not be gay! I have raised you in a way and you will not tell anyone that you're gay. And it's like, all right. How preachy do we have to be here?
JEFFY: Right.
STU: Like, I get that there have been these -- I get it. I understand. These networks, however, seem to have this idea that if we can tell these stories in the most overt way possible --
JEFFY: Yeah, they do.
STU: Try to make every person who has ever gone to church an alien, then we've accomplished our duty for the week. I mean, that is -- there's got to be some balance there between these two positions.
JEFFY: Remember when you went to Auschwitz?
(chuckling)
GLENN: Shut up, Jeffy.