Read the Fine Print: iTunes Is NOT Liable if You Start a Nuclear War

Don't even think about blaming iTunes for that nuclear war you're about to start. You can't hold them liable. It's in the fine print of the terms and conditions you agreed to but didn't read.

Filmmaker Cullen Hoback, director of the documentary Terms and Conditions May Apply, has read the fine print, and he joined Glenn in studio today for an enlightening --- and frightening --- conversation about your online privacy.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: Cullen, welcome to the program. How are you?

CULLEN: Oh, very good today. Glad to be in studio.

GLENN: Yeah, it's nice to have you here.

We wanted to talk to you about this ISP discussion that was going on last week with the government rolling it back. And we had a discussion here that I don't like the government getting involved in private relationships. I have a relationship with a company. If I don't like it, I'll go switch to another company.

CULLEN: Right.

GLENN: You are saying that there's a difference between that and -- and Apple. The ISP is different than Apple.

CULLEN: Well, I mean, the ISP is very different than a Google or a Facebook, right? Because with a company like Google, it's a search engine company, primarily. They also provide email. But you can go to some other search engine.

GLENN: Ask Jeeves.

CULLEN: Yeah, you can -- Ask Jeeves, if you wanted to. And same with Facebook. There are other social media tools out there, and they're free.

An ISP, we're already paying, you know, however much they can charge us, depending on how much competition is in the region. Right? And many people only have one option, especially when it comes to a higher speed broadband. So what we're essentially saying now is that, you know, you get the internet or you don't. And if you want the internet, well, everything you do online now is the property of that internet provider.

PAT: As far as terms and conditions do apply. How did this start with you? Did you just -- were you curious about what all these rules and regulations were that we were agreeing to, and then you started reading them? How did this begin?

GLENN: It was a lot of boring reading.

GLENN: I bet it was.

PAT: So you actually did read the terms and conditions that do apply?

CULLEN: I did.

PAT: Wow. You are the one.


CULLEN: And that actually -- in fact, actually a lot of these companies just copy and paste other company's terms and conditions.

PAT: Do they really?

CULLEN: Yeah. They don't -- yeah, this happens.

PAT: Word-for-word. And so how long are these things generally? And what's the longest you've seen?

CULLEN: Gosh, it's between Apple and LinkedIn. LinkedIn has some of the most egregious concerns. And Apple is out to protect themselves. They're not really in the business of taking your data because they're trying to sell you a really expensive product.

PAT: Right.

CULLEN: So Apple, you'll just read through everything they've got. I mean, they go to the extent to protect themselves from an incident where you may use their technology to start a nuclear war.

GLENN: Seriously?

CULLEN: Yeah, if you read in their terms, yeah, they say, we are not responsible if our technology -- you are not allowed to use it for this purpose. Therefore, if you do, we are not liable.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: What -- what could I possibly buy on iTunes that could start a nuclear war?

STU: Well, the documentary War Games.

CULLEN: Talk to Kim Jong-un. It's a message just for him.

GLENN: That's amazing. So how much trouble are we in with privacy? For instance, Stu and I used to be the biggest advocate of -- of keeping our fingerprints sacred. You're not -- no, you're not taking my fingerprints. And we've handed them over.

And we actually don't mind it now because we're so mentally lazy.

PAT: In fact, Stu loves it.

STU: I was telling Cullen off the air. Because I had him on Wonderful World of Stu, I don't know, three years ago or something. It was right when the fingerprint thing came out for iPhones and I didn't have it yet. And I remember it was kind of a story at the time, of, wow, you're putting your fingerprint in these things. And it's digital. And maybe it is locally stored. But, still, it was like another step of you, you were giving up to technology.

And at the time, we were talking about that, and I was critical of it in that like -- just like, this kind of freaks me out. Now, the one-tenth of a second that saves me every time I log into my phone is irreplaceable. I would fall on my sword to defend it. And because at any time you can improve convenience just a little bit, these things seem to go down the tubes.

CULLEN: And you're right. With each step, we're just turning up the heat up a little bit more. You know, the Constitution guarantees us a reasonable right to privacy. So what is our reasonable expectation of privacy?

And when we come to accept fingerprint scanning, or we come to accept going through an airport or having some kind of naked monitoring of our bodies, the bar keeps getting pushed back. And so now I think when it comes to all of the technologies that we're using, our experiences online, what are we willing to accept?

And I think that it's very difficult right now for people to feel the cost of digital services spying on them. Because they can't see it.

And what you can't see is hard to feel.

GLENN: Like what don't we -- what should we feel every time?

CULLEN: I mean, you should feel like a bunch of -- hundreds of weird people you've never met are looking through your -- through your window, rifling through your diary, getting into your brain and trying to know you better than you know yourself.

PAT: And they truly are doing this. They're going through all our stuff?

CULLEN: Everything.

PAT: Or is it just there, and they could go through it if they wanted to?

CULLEN: Well, there's not some person sitting around --

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: And they're not looking at Pat, per se.


GLENN: They're looking at metadata.

PAT: Habits, trends.

CULLEN: Well, who is they?

GLENN: I don't know. You're the one with the conspiracy theory.

CULLEN: I mean, you have the companies. Right? And then you have the government. And there really is no separation between the two.

PAT: Really?

STU: That's a big problem.

GLENN: Why do you say that?

PAT: So the government has access to the things that Google and Apple collect?

CULLEN: Yes. I mean, this is what Edward Snowden and the PRISM program showed us, is that there was backdoor access.

PAT: That changes the whole thing. Wow.

CULLEN: And there's something called the third party doctrine. And it's the ruling from the early '80s, which says, if you give your information to a third party, a Google, a Facebook, a bank, you've given up your right to control that information.

PAT: And that includes going to the government? Holy cow.

CULLEN: Yeah, it's way easier for the government to go to one of those companies and get our information. They can get it directly from us. There's virtually no firewall there.

PAT: Let's get into the time tunnel, Glenn, and go back three days. Now how do you feel? Because that changes it, right? That changes it. Because the government is involved. It's not just selling to private companies. The government does have access, right?

STU: But the problem you have there is the firewall between government and corporation.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah, I still don't think the government should be passing laws. I mean, that's just like passing another bad gun law. Pass the right law. Put a firewall in between the government and the private companies.

STU: And we've argued with that on the Snowden -- with all the Snowden information. I mean, we disagreed with a lot of people who would be conservative in the audience and a lot of the candidates that ran last year. Because a lot of them embraced that sort of NSA needs to be seeing everything you're doing.


STU: And we're not on that bandwagon. The conversation initially started here -- it's an interesting one in that with this ISP ruling where they're talking about -- can your ISP sell the data? Pat was arguing I think the same way you're arguing. No, you have this agreement. And we were kind of arguing, I don't want the government involved in that. I don't want the government to make a rule saying they can't --

PAT: To mandate. Uh-huh.

STU: And my issue with that is, while I agree with you, it's a terrible policy. And it should be one of those things that they shouldn't do. They should not sell your data.

But even if -- let's just take it to a crazy extreme. There's only one provider. And they say everything that you search for, we're going to publicly put on our Twitter page with your name and face. And we're going to identify every aspect of what you've done online publicly every single time and we're you're only option.

Still, the government does not have a role there. Because of the fact that the government does not give you the right to get on the internet. If a corporation decides to build the infrastructure that lets you get on the internet, well, then they can put the terms that they want to allow you to access. It's not the government's job to guarantee you access.

GLENN: And, Pat, I want to just say that my argument hasn't changed. Your argument has changed. You're saying because the government --

PAT: No, it hasn't, Glenn. No, it hasn't. Your argument has changed.

GLENN: You're saying that, well, now, Glenn, your argument has changed because the government can get it. Well, no, what he's saying is, the government is getting it whether they sell it or not. The government is getting it. So the problem is not selling it. The problem is the government is getting it.

PAT: But still -- it's still a problem for me, but...

GLENN: Right.

CULLEN: Well, I think the factor here -- I think we can all agree we like the Constitutions.

STU: We're fans.

GLENN: Yes, big fans.

PAT: Yes.

CULLEN: Right now, the Constitution doesn't apply online.

GLENN: Anything.

JEFFY: Yeah.

STU: The Fourth Amendment in particular.

CULLEN: Yeah, it doesn't follow us into the digital realm. And so when the government I think passes laws related to the Constitution on the internet, we're not talking about egregious regulations, we're talking about constitutional regulation, which is different. It's different -- in essence, they're blocking themselves from easily getting access to this information.

PAT: Uh-huh.

CULLEN: Though, ISPs are required to retain -- I think we should be moving more in the direction of ways to stop the government from being able to access this information.

GLENN: Yes, I agree. I agree.

CULLEN: That's --

GLENN: Because the Constitution is a document on what the government can do, not what a private corporation can do.

PAT: Can't do. Yeah. Uh-huh.

GLENN: Or can't do. So I don't have a right to privacy in my -- I have an implied contract of privacy with Apple. But not a constitutional right to privacy with Apple. That's the government.

I have a constitutional right to privacy with the government. And they're not fulfilling that in any way, shape, or form. And they're trying to look like they're great guys by saying, "Oh, look, we're protecting your privacy with the ISP.

No, you're not. You're not -- you're not filling your fundamental mandate of the Fourth Amendment in the first place. So which is all just a puppet show.

CULLEN: So if there was a -- say your phone provider suddenly developed a tool where they could hear all of your thoughts and maybe they didn't tell you that this is -- this was going on.


CULLEN: Is there then a role for the government to say, no, you can't record people's thoughts and not let them know about that?

GLENN: If they didn't tell people, then yes. But I think there would be such an uproar that this phone company had installed this and didn't let anybody know about it.

CULLEN: So many years ago when I first made Terms and Conditions, I discovered it wasn't me. There were lots of technologies who knew -- there were keyloggers recording every single thing that we do on our phones. All of it without our knowledge. There was never uproar.

PAT: Wow. Did we agree to that in their terms and conditions?


But they would have some way to justify it. If you're a good lawyer, you can kind of come up with some wishy-washy way to describe it. But they weren't specifically saying, we're recording every stroke.

GLENN: Does the AI thing bother you at all, there at that there doesn't seem to be any restraint on anyone anymore. Especially in technology. It's -- it's not should we do it? It's, can we do it? Can it be done? Yeah. Okay. Do it.

There's no -- there's no -- there doesn't seem to be real ethics applied on a lot of things. And when we get into AI. We're starting to get into territory now that things are going to change so rapidly. And we're really going to be boxed in to -- I mean, you know, fingerprints, six years ago. We're not going to use fingerprints. How dare you -- now -- because it's convenient. Brave New World was correct. Not 1984. They're just packaging everything the way we want it. Is there any concern with you on where we're headed?

CULLEN: I mean, if you look at what's happening with privacy since basically the advent of the internet, the march is moving more and more towards this kind of idea of total transparency. But that total transparency doesn't seem to apply to the government.

PAT: That's for sure.

CULLEN: So it's -- they want us to be as transparent as possible, have as much access to everything we're doing.

GLENN: Should be the opposite way. We should be --

CULLEN: Yeah, who is watching the watchers?

GLENN: Right.

CULLEN: And when you talk about this kind of technology, it is in direct relationship to how much information is shared and captured in the background. It's part of Google's master plan. It's why they want us to share all of our searches and desires with them.

GLENN: Right. Edward Snowden, hero, traitor, somewhere in between?

CULLEN: It's somewhere -- it's somewhere in between.

I consider him a patriot. He -- he made that decision, not for his own benefit. He lived a pretty sweet life in Hawaii, making a pretty decent wage, with a -- with a pretty hot girlfriend. So things were not bad for him. I'm going to tell you they were a lot worse in Russia for him right now than they were before.

GLENN: Sure. Sure.

CULLEN: I think what's a challenge here for him or for me at least what he did -- he released documents that were beyond just domestic spying. So you had released the documents related to Angela Merkel.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

CULLEN: You had released the documents related to spy programs abroad.

And that's where I think things start to get kind of gray. I wish he just focused on domestic. But, again, we're talking about one individual. Tens of thousands of documents. It was difficult for him to go through that. And he trusted a news outlet to then, you know, disseminate information in a way that was responsible. So that's where I think it's gray.

STU: What I find so incredible is that we went through the Snowden thing. All the conspiracy theories leading up to that would have said, this is happening. This is happening. And then Edward Snowden shows that it was actually happening.

GLENN: And nobody cared.

STU: And we still are going down this road faster and faster and faster.

GLENN: Is that crazy?

CULLEN: I thought everything was going to change after Edward Snowden came out with those documents. I was so hopeful.

PAT: Not at all.

CULLEN: And the only thing that Congress passed was something that separates their ability to directly have metadata. And now it's in the hands of the company. But we know that they can easily just get it from the -- that's all that really changed.

GLENN: It's crazy.

STU: Incredible.

GLENN: Everything since the last -- since Snowden and this last election, everything I thought about the American people, I'm like, no. Uh-huh.

PAT: We don't know them at all.

STU: Oh, crap.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: You know, you keep using that word "American people," I do not think it means what you think it means.

Thank you so much for being on with us. Appreciate it.

PAT: Really fascinating.

CULLEN: Yeah, glad I was in town.

STU: Where should people go to check out your stuff?

CULLEN: Oh, sure. Well, this film was Terms and Conditions May Apply. The new one is What Lies Upstream. And actually, I was in Dallas, at the Dallas International Film Festival with this new --

STU: Very cool.

CULLEN: Again, it's investigating corruption at the top level.

PAT: Is it coming out in theaters? Or the internet? How is it being released?

CULLEN: It will be in theaters. It will be on TV come the fall.

PAT: Awesome.

CULLEN: Yeah, there's lots of ways to see it.

GLENN: Good. Send us a preview copy. So we can see it. I would love to see it.

CULLEN: Will do. We'll have a spirited conversation about corruption at the EPA.

GLENN: You'll be back. You'll be back.

JEFFY: I'm sure that's zero.

GLENN: Thank you so much.


What This FLAMETHROWING Robot Dog Means for the Future

What This FLAMETHROWING Robot Dog Means for the Future

Flamethrower company Throwflame has released what could possibly be the coolest and most terrifying product of the year: A flamethrowing robot dog named “Thermonator.” And perhaps just as surprising is its price tag: just over $9,000! Glenn, Stu, and Jason discuss whether this is “the ultimate home security device,” despite being made for things like forest fire control. “You walk up and you’re like, ‘Terminator! Terminator!’” The future is here…and it’s got a flamethrower on its back!


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Yeah. So I want to show you, I think this is the ultimate home security device, okay? It's a little pricey.

But watch this.

This is the new robot flame throwing dog.

STU: No.

GLENN: Yeah. So it's a -- it's a robot that just walking around, is enough to scare the hell out of them.

STU: Laser sight.

GLENN: Laser sights. It can prowl the property at night. And it's made for like forest fighting.

Or, you know, war. But it also has a flamethrower strapped to its back.

STU: What the heck?

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: There's fires all around it. Did this thing start the fires?

GLENN: No. No. No. This will cause a back burn for forest fires.

STU: Oh, okay.

GLENN: So they sent it out. And they sent it out. And they're watching on their -- watch this.

VOICE: The destroyer of worlds.

GLENN: Okay. That's a little spooky. Look at that thing. Just throwing flames.

STU: That's awesome. Oh, my gosh.

JASON: And that's not even very imaginative. Imagine Hope Hicks.

GLENN: You put that control into the hands of some hope hicks, and they are --

STU: It just jumped.

GLENN: It jump ed. It is an amazing --

STU: How much did this thing cost?

GLENN: You ready? How much did you think? How much did you think?

STU: $100,000.

PAT: I was going to say 20.

GLENN: Nine. Nine grand for a flame-throwing robot dog.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: I want one.

STU: We can finance that. Right?

Go to your bank. I need some financing for a flame-throwing dog.

GLENN: Can you imagine if you had, one of those, like a little box in your yard. And someone comes up to the door you don't like. And just the box opens up. And this dog and this robot dog stands up and puts a laser on you.

I don't think you knock on the door.

STU: I think you knock and you leave.

GLENN: You leave quickly. For nine grand, guys. You could have a robot, flame-throwing dog.

STU: It just seems like there isn't a better purchase on the market.

GLENN: No. Our wives might disagree with us.

STU: You think?

GLENN: Maybe. Maybe. I know mine would.

STU: Well, remember, if you get a normal dog, you have to feed it.

This thing you don't have to feed. You're saving money there.

How long until it pays for itself?

GLENN: You wanted a dog. You wanted a dog.

STU: What about --

GLENN: Your motorcycle is 50 grand. You can have a flame-throwing robot dog for nine.

STU: Or for 59, you can have a flame-throwing dog on the back of your motorcycle.

That's the way to do it.

GLENN: Oh, really? Really? Mr. Biker, you have a problem with me.

Take it up with the robot dog, with the flamethrower.

JASON: I can have ten of those, actually. Now, imagine that. Motorcycle or ten of those robot dogs.

STU: You're not great at math.

GLENN: No. Yeah. That would be 90 who can't understand.

STU: Less than six. You definitely get five. You get five.

Maybe they have a six pack discount.

JASON: Six pack. Imagine like a pack of those bad boys, showing up.

STU: Seriously, how terrifying that would be, if you came around the corner of a parking lot, and six of those walked up to you?

GLENN: Take the flamethrower off. Take the flamethrower off.

Just the dog would freak you out.

STU: Honestly you could get -- I wonder if you could get one without the flame-thrower for five grand. Then put a fake one on the back.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Get two.

GLENN: Or get two of them.

STU: Imagine being surrounded by those things.

JASON: Oh, my gosh.

GLENN: That scared. My German Shepherd is terrifying. Terrifying.

STU: But you can't be talked into -- in the back of your mind. Some dogs are nice. Right?

I've been around your dog. Your dog is very nice to me.

I don't know if it will be nice to an intruder. My guess is no.

One of those things. There's never been an indication that any of those are nice. Boston-style dog walking up to you, you don't start petting it.

GLENN: Terminator. Terminator.

JASON: That is the future. That's where it's going.

GLENN: It is. The war will be using that.

S.W.A.T. teams will be using that. You won't see a cop. Honestly, I mean, you think cops eat doughnuts now. Wait until they have robots.

JASON: Have you seen combat footage in Ukraine? That shows where it's going. You see troops on the ground, doing normal troop stuff.

But then all of a sudden, you'll hear. It's the drones coming in, chasing people.

STU: Those are tanks in Ukraine. They are getting rid of them. Because they're all getting taken out by drones.

GLENN: Have you seen the fastest drone yet.

This thing -- you look it up on YouTube. This thing is just like. You just barely see it.

JASON: That's incredible.

GLENN: It's like, 200 some miles an hour.

It's crazy.

STU: I don't mean to the emperor arguing in favor of the clone wars. Isn't this probably maybe a good thing?

The fact that maybe humans aren't on the battlefield killing each other. And it's a bunch of robots killing each other instead?

GLENN: It may make war likely to happen.

STU: That's true too.

GLENN: Because you could go in. If you're a bad country, and you don't care how many people are killed on the other side. Your people aren't being killed, look out. Get the robot dog.

How Medical Students are Being Turned into LEFTIST ACTIVISTS

How Medical Students are Being Turned into LEFTIST ACTIVISTS

Unfortunately for America’s medical future, left-wing propaganda is fast becoming the RULE in medical school classrooms, rather than the exception. Glenn dives into the disturbing reality of what our medical students are learning in America’s top schools. Diversity, equity, and inclusion training is everywhere. So is antiracism and activism. The George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Sciences is even teaching a course on “Confronting U.S. History.” In fact, 23 of America’s top 25 top medical schools have antiracism instruction as a core part of their curriculum! This could have a major and devastating effect on our medical system in the future, Glenn warns. But in fact, it has already started…

Gen Z'er Understands NOTHING About Parenting

Gen Z'er Understands NOTHING About Parenting

Glenn reviews 3 clips that reveal how clueless some Gen Z'ers are. In one clip, a college student is upset that she can't attend her graduation ceremony because of her (probably "mostly peaceful") protesting. Then, there was another protester who praised North Korea for standing with Palestine and Hamas over Israel. But the icing on top of the cake was a young woman who complained about her "narcissistic parents" showing up to every one of her events as a child. But Glenn, Pat, and Stu - all seasoned parents - lay down the truth: That woman has no idea how much her parents sacrificed to be there for her. They didn't do it for themselves. They did it for HER. So, who's the narcissist here?


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GLENN: Oh, man. We're just getting back. Pat looks a little peaky today. Because he's at the Madonna concert. We all through town.

STU: What a night.

PAT: Man.

GLENN: It's not worth what we paid for. Which was free. Free.

PAT: We paid zero. Zero dollars.

GLENN: Still a little disappointing at that price. Welcome, Pat. How are you?

PAT: Oh, tired. You know, just getting back from Rio and all. But other than that, doing good.

GLENN: Yeah. That's the only thing that could get you to Rio, too. I'm like, hey, let's go to Rio. And you're like, eh. And I said, Madonna is doing a free concert on the beach.

PAT: Oh, man. Now I'm there.

STU: She might have a bikini on.

PAT: Oh, and just 65 years old. And still as hot as ever.

STU: Maybe not as ever.

PAT: Hmm.

STU: It is --

GLENN: Oh, no. Stop. It's hurting.

STU: She really wants to try to pretend she's 23 still.

PAT: Just let me vomit, Lord, please.

Just let me. Okay. I have something here, that I think is -- well, it's going to cheer you up.

PAT: Good.

GLENN: Two students. Two students.

First, cut four. College student who is a little upset. She was a protester.

And she can't go to her graduation now. Here she is.

PAT: No.

GLENN: I'm being restricted from a lot of things right now. That I didn't expect to be. For standing up something I believe in.

I have family coming in, who I have to let them know. You know, not come to my graduation ceremonies. I'm just disappointed.

I mean, I'm a 2020 high school grad. So I wasn't able to walk then.


VOICE: And so, you know.

PAT: You know.

VOICE: Here it is. I'm not able to walk now.

GLENN: Yeah. Just walk to a dentist.

VOICE: You said you were standing up for a cause. Would you do it again?

VOICE: I mean, yeah. I would. I was -- I was doing what I believed was right. And I still believe it to be right. So much harm has been done to all of these people.

PAT: All of those people.

VOICE: Already.

GLENN: Give me the people that were raped and stabbed and those people.

PAT: No. Not those people. The other people. The other people who were told to leave, and then they airdropped food.

And then --

GLENN: And then turned on those people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

PAT: Yeah. Those people.

GLENN: Those people. Man. Now, parents, how many times have we said this?

Now, you're going to have to pay the price. Okay?

You're paying the price.

Being a parent. Because you showed up, for all of your kids' activities. Cut five.

VOICE: Am I the only one whose narcissistic parent would show up to every single event I was ever involved in. This is one of those weird ones. Where I always felt like speaking about this behavior negatively, could be perfect saved in the wrong way.

Like my parent was just being supportive. And how lucky was I to have a parent who always showed up. Boo-hoo, your parent was there for you.

But did you also feel like sometimes it was a bit excessive? Especially if it was a bit more of a repetitive thing, where maybe I was doing the same thing on multiple days in a row.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. Cupcake. Just let me just say this.

Yes. We did find it very, very repetitive. Going to every single one of your performances, everyone. Even when you were doing the same thing.

Yes. But we did it, anyway, to show you support.

You narcissistic little piece of crap.

PAT: Hmm.

GLENN: We -- we made effort, to make sure we didn't miss any of them.

Maybe we should have missed some of them.

Maybe we should have.

You know what, go outside and play. Come back when the lights are out.

We'll worry about you. If you don't if come back by 6:00 the next morning.

I mean, you cannot win.

PAT: No, you can't.

GLENN: This generation is so narcissistic, no matter what you did, you showed up, you didn't show up.

STU: Yeah. They're going to complain about it either way. Because there is obviously a thing that has been talked about. The helicopter parenting thing. Is that the complaint here? Just showing up for an event isn't helicopter parenting.

GLENN: No. Showed up for every event. Every event. Every ball fame.

STU: That seems great. Content you want fans at your it became.

PAT: No. It seemed like you wanted to support them. But that's not it. Apparently.

GLENN: You're getting something out of it. You're trying to make yourself look like --

PAT: This makes me look really good. If I go to all your stupid events that I don't want to go to!

GLENN: What you're really doing. Come on. At least guys can be honest about this.

I don't know if women can. There's about half the events, you're like, oh. Right?

PAT: How many recitals do you want to go to? Where you see your kid or your grand kid, for five minutes. And then it's thee hours long.

It's like, okay.

I'd chew my arm out to get out of that.

GLENN: Oh, I had to go to the Nutcracker. The Nutcracker every year. And Cheyenne was in it for like, I don't know. Thee minutes. Look, there she is, dressed as a sugar plumb.

Then that's it. Then I have to watch the rest of it. I could have missed those, but we didn't.

STU: Because you're bad parents, I can't believe you're saying this.

GLENN: Really?

You didn't go. You just skipped some of this stuff.

STU: They never have events at the casino, which is where I am.

It's not my fault.

I mean, look, there are lines too. I think Pat will at least be able to agree with this. It's like, you know, there are certain things that you like, that your kids do.

Like I really like basketball. So I love going to watch my kids play. My daughter is in gymnastics. It's really fun to watch her do her events in gymnastics. I freaking love it.

GLENN: I love it too.

STU: Then there's 9,000 other people going.

PAT: Then it's not as good.

GLENN: I say to my wife all the time, honey, we're sitting in the back. We could leave. We could leave, right now.

Nobody would ever know.

It's not right, we have to support all the other -- no, we don't

No, we don't. We're there to support our kids. Not all those. I don't like those kids. I don't know those kids. But I don't like them. Because I generally don't like other people's kids. Nobody does. If you're honest, nobody likes other people's kids.

PAT: I think that's accurate. That's accurate.

GLENN: Yes. Thank you, Pat. Thank you.

PAT: And I certainly don't like that kid, that we just heard from.

STU: Yes.

PAT: I'm not going to any of her events.

GLENN: Yeah. What would you say if that was your kid?

PAT: Oh, man. I would be.

GLENN: If you saw that?

PAT: I would be a little upset, I believe.

STU: Because you don't realize it when you're a kid, that your parents have lives. Right?

PAT: Yeah. Right.

STU: You don't think of it, as like they're canceling something that they could be doing to come to your thing. You just think of it as that's their job, and they're supposed to be there.

GLENN: I'm going to say something I always hated when I heard it. My mother used to say it. And I know once it's uttered, it happens. Because it's happened to me.

I hope that girl gets four children, exactly like her. Then she'll know. Then she'll know.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I was just trying to help. I was just trying to show you support.

PAT: Problem is, she's so narcissistic, she won't have any children. It will just be about her.

STU: That's probably a good decision.

GLENN: I love that. I love that. If you're narcissistic, please, don't have children.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: You're going to school, and you're battling that nonsense. I don't want you to have children. You would be a horrible, horrible parent.

PAT: These are the kind of idiots that are supporting Hamas.

GLENN: Yeah. It's all about -- it's me, me, me. And all about them.

How could you possibly be.

You're so clueless.

How could you possibly be in the LGBT community.

And standing up for Hamas.

PAT: It doesn't make any sense at all.

GLENN: It doesn't make any sense, unless you're so blind and narcissistic. That all you have to think about is me and my gayness. And I will bring credibility to this movement. It's all about narcissism.

STU: And these stances don't even make sense with each other.

PAT: They don't. They've all been combined here, for some reason. They've all kind of melded into one.

STU: And that's an overall politics thing.

If your team tells you, that you're supposed to support this, then you do for, what? Seventy percent of America.

Like that's terrifying.

GLENN: But wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're saying, it doesn't -- could we please go back?

Pat hasn't heard this. You just go back to cut 45, please. He's saying this doesn't make sense, Pat.

Listen to this.

VOICE: Which side does North Korea support? Palestine or Israel? Discuss.

VOICE: Palestine.

VOICE: It is Palestine.

They have actually never recognized the state of Israel. They have always upheld the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and resistence. And this is beyond moral and rhetorical support.

They have actively armed and trained Palestinian resistance for decades. That includes the PLO, the (inaudible), have trained troops by the DPRK.

PAT: Wow. Isn't that great?

STU: Yay!

GLENN: Now, if you were listening to Friday's show, or Pat a couple weeks ago.

You heard the guy we had on. That said the United States government, took the Malaysian airliner. Opened up a wormhole. And sucked that plane through it.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I would like them to prove that reality, with all of these stupid moronic kids.

Just open it up. At a college campus. Suck them out into space.

PAT: Yeah. We don't necessarily have a destination. They are just sucked into the wormhole.

GLENN: Yeah.

PAT: There they go. Well, I don't know where they went.

GLENN: That's weird.

STU: You will be shocked, by the way. If you're listening on the radio. Not seeing that clip. She is wearing a mask outdoors while saying all this. Of course.

GLENN: Yes. And looking over her mask to read.

She doesn't know this stuff.

STU: Reading this --

GLENN: She was either given this stuff. Or she went online. And she went, who else supports the Palestinians?

STU: She's like North Korea's Corrine Jean-Pierre. She is reading every word she's saying.


GLENN: You know who else is with the Palestinians?

Hitler. Hey. That's not. That doesn't help you really.

How Trump’s Trials Could HELP Him in the 2024 Election

How Trump’s Trials Could HELP Him in the 2024 Election

Former president Donald Trump is facing multiple legal trials during an election year. But despite the trials hurting his ability to campaign, Senator J.D. Vance believes they’re actually “really helping Trump politically.” Sen. Vance joins Glenn to explain how Trump is turning these legal attacks, including the hush money “sham trial” in New York, into effective campaigning tools. In fact, they may have even allowed Trump to say the “line of the year.” Sen. Vance also weighs in on the rumors that he could be Trump’s VP pick and why one of Biden’s recent actions “should offend every person in this country.”


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So let's talk a little bit about Trump and the trial. This trial is -- is more than just a kangaroo court.

This is -- there's nothing to this trial.

How do you think it's going?

J.D.: Well, I think it's -- I mean, the only thing that really matters, of course, is the court of public opinion.

Because such a sham trial.

I don't think it will hold up on appeal. The basic argument here is that he falsified documents in order to commit a crime. They can't even identify which crime he allegedly committed. It's very hard to imagine anything like that can hold up on appeal.

Now, look, it is highlighting how corrupt the justice system has gotten in certain parts of our country.


So you have the number three person is Biden's DOJ, who jumps ship and goes and joins a local prosecutor office to participate in this. By the way, he also turned down a DNC paid consultant.

Then you have, of course, the Soros-funded prosecutor who brings the case, being presided over by as literal campaign donor to Biden Harris, who is preventing Donald Trump from even speaking on the merits of the case or in the court of public opinion.

So I think it's really helping Trump politically. Which again, I think it's all that matters. Because those people, who have any sense of fairness, recognize that this is a sham trial.

And so long as it's helping Trump get elected. I think that's what matters most.

GLENN: I will tell you, I think the line maybe of the year.

We're not finished yet. But I think the line maybe of the year. Is Donald Trump when he came out. I think it was yesterday.

And said, the Constitution is well worth me going to jail for.

It's -- it's worth more than me trying to stay out of jail.

So put me in jail. And I thought, wow!

That -- I mean, that is a strong, strong stance.

VOICE: By the way, driving home the stakes, doesn't it?

This guy is literally trying to prevent him from speaking. Right? The Democrats have made this a major political issue. The Democrats are funding off of it.

You know, the Biden Harris campaign sitting around, fundraising emails. Oh, isn't it funny that Donald Trump's (inaudible) sent us money. And yet, the judge is preventing Trump from participating in what is right now, the most lively political debate, of -- of the country.

So it really -- again, I think just drives home how much these guys have lost their mind.

And, you know, you -- I have even seen polls here that Biden -- people who plan to vote for Joe Biden recognize it's fundamentally a sham trial.

Now, here's the crazy thing about this, Glenn, is I do a lot of hostile media. You know, it's one of the things I like to do, is sort of take our case to the other side. And I've sat in green rooms with people, who months ago, were angry at Alvin Bragg for bringing this case.

Because it was such a weak case. Now that it's the only case that's actually gone to trial. Because the rest of them have fallen apart.

You see the media sees them treating it as legitimate. I don't think anyone believes them, right? There's just no credibility here, and everything further erodes their ability is in my view, a good thing.

GLENN: So let me ask you a couple of other questions.

I know we have a limited time. Let me first stop with the campus funding protesting.

Biden holding back aid, bullets to Israel.

Isn't this exactly what Donald Trump is impeached for.

He held back congressionally approved javelins from Ukraine.

And now, Biden is holding back ammunition, from Israel.

What's the difference?

J.D.: There isn't any difference. Of course. The only real difference is, I think that Donald Trump actually was engaged in diplomacy and was negotiating with the Ukrainian and also other folks in the region, about how much aid they should be providing. Of course, it shouldn't just be America. Whether you support Ukraine or not. What's different about this, is I think you're taking one of those few truly bipartisan issues in this country, that we should be supporting our allies. Israel.

And you're allowing it to be dictated bit far left. Now, I have a little bit of a different take on this, Glenn.

I think what Biden is doing is really killing two political birds with one stone here.

One, as I've been warning for months. We don't have enough ammunition to send to Ukraine and Israel simultaneously. We have to pick one.

Well, the Biden administration I think, has picked the corrupt Ukrainian regime over our long-term allies.

But simultaneously, he's going to his left flank, and saying, the reason I'm doing this, is because Bibi is bad. And because we don't like the way that Bibi is prosecuting the war. So he gets to tell his left flank what they want to hear, while covering for the fundamental failure of his foreign policy.

It's one of the reasons, Glenn, it was such a bad idea for Republicans to give Biden this security supplemental. It's such a big bill. That it sort of allows Biden to hide his priorities. And sort of have his cake. And eat it too.

GLENN: The other thing I want to talk to you about. Is the health care that is now going to illegal migrants.

How does this president, get away with so much executive power?

That they're -- nobody gave him the authorization to do this.

Nobody gave him the authorization to spend all of this money.

Nobody gave him the authorization to relieve or to forgive, quote, all those loans.

And tie them to the back of the taxpayer.

This is a very important concept in our -- in our Constitution.

It's why congressmen have to be reelected every two years. Because we want to -- them to answer for the money they just spent or allowed to be spent.

What --

J.D.: Well, you're right, Glenn. We know at this point, bide citizen a tyrannical president that will violate the law. Does and it is a violation of the law.

But I don't want to let us off the hook here. We should know at this point, when we appropriate Joe Biden, a big chunk of money. He will sometimes violate the law in the way he actually distributes it. And this means, Congress will actually have to take a little bit more assertive of a role. Has to be willing to cut off certain appropriations, not by writing these blank checks.

This is really important, Glenn.

Congress increasingly, you know, again, with its massive security supplemental. When you write Joe Biden a check. You can't go to the American people. And say, well, he's doing this illegally.

But that's true. You know he will do it illegally. So we have to be more careful about how we give this guy authority in the first place.

I have to say, Glenn Beck. This giving health care to illegal Americans, it should offend every single American. We have a social safety net in this country.

Medicaid exists for impoverished people to help pay their medical bills. If you allow folks who cannot be in this country to begin with, who are here illegally, to literally take from the mouths of American poor children, so that we can fund their health care. Then whose side are you really on?

And I think it's becoming increasingly clear. That Biden does not like the people who currently make up the citizenry of this country.

And he's trying to change the way the country operates.

The way that we distribute resources.

The way that we vote. And that's what his illegal immigration push is all about.

GLENN: Well, I just can't believe that those at the very bottom of the scale.

The ones that the Democrats have said the Democrats care about forever.

The black families that are trapped in Chicago. And are barely making ends meet.

How are they to view the government, when they're not getting -- you know, they're not being put up in a hotel someplace. They're not getting all these perks.

And yet, we're doing it for people who just came here.

I mean, if I were on the receiving end. Or on the need. End of this. And I was a citizen.

I would be like, dude, what are you doing? You never did this for me. You never did this for my family, as we were struggling.

J.D.: Absolutely. They just came here, and a lot of them came here illegally, Glenn. We have veterans who can't afford healthcare who are sleeping on park benches. At the same time, we're handing out free health care, to people, who violated the law, to come to this country, in the first place.

It's completely disgraceful.

And I think a lot of people should be looking around and saying, who does Joe Biden actually stand for?

Right? The Democrats say they care about the little guy.

Let me send you a brief story, Glenn. I have a new good friend of mine, who is getting up there in years.

Who is now eligible for Social Security. He basically found out that there are a number of illegal aliens, who have used his Social Security number to get a whole host of benefits, including Social Security benefits.

When he went to the government and said, hey, I would like to know who is using these things. So I could report it to the police. They basically told him, no. We don't reveal people's personal information, even illegal aliens who are committing Social Security fraud.

This is the kind of country that Joe Biden has created, where the very things that we do as a country, to help the least fortunate, are being given away to illegal aliens instead of mesh citizens.

I cannot stand it.


JD. Thank you so much. Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio.

Always good to have you on. Thank you.