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FCC Chairman: We Don't Need to Preemptively Micromanage Every Business

Ajit Pai, Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), joined Glenn on radio to discuss the future of the internet and net neutrality. If a government regulator exists that Glenn likes, it's Ajit Pai, who stood alone in a hostile world at the FCC during the Obama administration. Pai favors light regulation to ensure consumers have a competitive choice and companies have a greater incentive to invest in the internet.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: The head of the FCC. The FCC chairman, Ajit Pai, now joins us.

Ajit, I don't know if you are aware of this at all, but we've been watching you for a while. I have -- I have no idea how you got by Obama. But we're glad you did.

AJIT: Thanks so much, Glenn. I really appreciate the kind words. And grateful to you for making time for me today.

GLENN: Oh, you bet. We have a lot of questions for you. And I want to talk to you about net neutrality. I want to talk to you about the cable industry and this cry of fake news and where you think we're going.

Let's start with probably net neutrality.

Net neutrality is -- is in some ways, a -- a nightmare and will limit people. In other ways, people will look at this and say, "Wait. I don't want my cable operator being able to pick and choose winners and slow down, you know, the speeds of YouTube, if they're trying to promote their own YouTube." Can you make the argument?

AJIT: Absolutely. I think the key point here is nothing about the internet was broken. From the dawn of the internet age in the 1990s until 2015, the internet economy in the United States was the envy of the world precisely because President Clinton and a Republican Congress agreed that instead of regulating the heck out of this new technology, we would let it develop and take targeted action as necessary.

And that's, I think, part of the reason why we saw the tremendous explosion and activity online. But in 2015, on the party-line vote, the FCC imposed these heavy-handed rules that were developed for Mondale, the telephone monopoly back in the 1930s.

And as a result, we've seen less investment in networks. We're seeing less competition than ever. And I think that's one of the things we want to address going further, is, you know, light-touch regulation I think is the best calibrated to make sure the consumers have more competitive choice, and the companies have a greater incentive to invest. And that's where we're heading.

GLENN: So how would you address -- I said this to Ray Kurzweil who is part of the Singularity University. Works for Google. And I said, "So, Ray, why wouldn't Google develop an algorithm that would find people who are using the search engine to create a bigger and better Google? Why wouldn't they just -- I mean, that's human nature to protect yourself. If somebody is coming -- you can piece together in advance, "Wait a minute. These people are looking to build a better Google." Why wouldn't you just shut them down? He said, "Oh, that would never happen because we're all good people." I don't necessarily subscribe to that theory.

But, you know, we are now in the internet age, playing devil's advocate, of these gigantic corporations that you're just not going to -- the little guy is not going to compete against Google. They're not going to compete against Apple. They're not -- you can't compete around Comcast.

AJIT: And the point I consistently made is we don't put our faith in people or in companies. What's that saying? If men were angels, no laws would be necessary.

GLENN: Right.

AJIT: Well, we have a system of laws, and interest in competition laws on one hand and consumer protection laws on the other. And those are administered by a -- say the Federal Trade Commission or Justice Department here in Washington, by state agencies across the country. So there's a whole framework of laws to protect against that kind of conduct.

What we don't need is the FCC preemptively micromanaging every single business in the United States, not just the big ones that you mentioned, but even the smaller companies that have told us we're holding back on investment now because of these heavy-handed investments.

GLENN: So we're talking to Ajit Pai, he's the chairman of the FCC. You know, as I look at the most hated services in America -- or service providers, it's your electric company, it's your insurance companies, it's your cable companies. Those are all the ones that are the most heavily regulated.

However, as somebody who has tried, without $200 million behind me, to break in and have a -- a groundswell -- a verified groundswell of -- of support behind me, these -- to break into cable is absolutely impossible if you are a voice that the companies want to block. You just can't do it. How do we balance that and make sure that, you know, the app system -- because that's why we -- that's why we're online. Okay. Well, good. We'll do it online. But how do we make sure that the app system isn't blocked now by a Comcast or an Apple, where you're just not going to get in and break through?

AJIT: That's a terrific question. And two different answers: Number one, the way you do it is by promoting more competition. You make sure that the barriers to entry, so to speak, are low. That people like you can express yourselves over a variety of different platforms. And number two, to the extent that that's a concern, remember that the people who are promoting this Title II regulation through the US government are not the friends of free speech and free expression. These groups are consistently saying that they want government control of the internet, not just for its own sake, but in order to regulate how speech and expression happens online.

GLENN: Right.

AJIT: And they've been very open about this throughout the years.

GLENN: But you can't -- as a person, I can't start my own cable company. It's all regulated. I can't start one.

AJIT: And that's why we've had a very aggressive agenda in the three months that I've been in the chairman's office to make sure that we enable more companies to make that decision, to enter the marketplace, removing some of the barriers that they found, in terms of the rules, and making it easier for them to raise capital and to enter these marketplaces. And we want the smaller companies that are getting squeezed by these regulations to finally enter the market and provide a competitive option.

GLENN: Good for you.

So help me out on this. Ted Koppel, who I have a lot of respect for, has done a lot of great journalism over his lifetime -- I was talking to him, and he was concerned about all this fake news. And I said, at the end of the day, go back to the revolutionary war, there was tons of fake news back then. We're just in a new situation. And we haven't found our way to balance it yet. But you got to trust the people.

And he immediately said, "I think that we need to start, you know, having a license for people to be on the internet and to present news. We have to verify those people who are online."

That's insane.

AJIT: I couldn't agree more. And I have a lot of respect for Ted Koppel's career. But, frankly, his comments are repugnant to the spirit and the letter of the First Amendment. In fact, that's the very reason why John Milton in 1644 wrote his great treaties on free expression, Areopagitica, where he said that, you know, look, the king has no business licensing people to allow them to speak. We -- the entire premise of western civilization is that you don't have a gatekeeper allowing you to speak only at the whim of the king. And that's the same here in the United States. The last thing I think we want is government -- sort of regulators like me deciding who speaks and who doesn't. That's the fantastic thing about the internet age, I think.

STU: Don't you think though, Glenn -- and Ajit Pai -- we're talking to the FCC chairman. You have this situation where it's not about what happened in 1644 or anything. It's about what's coming up on May 30th, which is season five of House of Cards.

JEFFY: Thank you. Thank you.

STU: People want their Netflix. They want it streamed. They don't want their evil cable company slowing it down. Is that something that needs to be regulated, or does the market actually work that stuff out?

AJIT: To me, the market works it out. The best evidence of that is the digital economy that we had, prior to 2015 when we imposed these rules.

Companies were not engaging in the blocking of lawful content. And to the extent that we have concerns about competition, the best way to get there is not by imposing these heavy-handed regulations that slow down infrastructure investment, especially by some of the smaller companies that would give you a competitive option. It's by making sure we have clear-cut rules of the road, that are market-friendly, that incentivize more companies to enter this space.

And so, you know, look, I'm all in favor of the government looking at any competitive problems as they pop up. Preemptively regulating, from the Fortune 500 companies, down to the tiny companies in Little Rock, Arkansas, is not the way to get there.

GLENN: I will tell you, Ajit, I look at this time period -- and I'd love to hear your point of view of this. I look at this time period of American history as a combination of the industrial revolution and heavy emphasis on Tesla and Edison, all in about a 20-year period. I mean, what's coming in -- in technology and communication has already been profound. But it's going to become even more profound.

And, you know, as a student of history -- and you obviously are one as well. When you look back at those days of Tesla and Edison, in many ways, Tesla was right. Edison was just good at playing the game with the government.

And he was a -- excuse my language, but a son of a bitch. And that's not French. That's English.

STU: Can we say that on the air, Mr. FCC Chairman?

GLENN: Oh, yes, I shouldn't have said that with the FCC chairman.

AJIT: I'll give you a pass, don't worry.

GLENN: Okay. Thank you.

PAT: You didn't think that one through. Did you?

GLENN: Yeah, I didn't think that one through. I forgot who we were talking to. Anyway, we never say things like that, by the way. Golly, gee, darn it. I'm sorry.

But we were pushed back because of the collusion with very powerful people like Edison and very powerful politicians. Do you see us -- how do you see what's coming our way?

AJIT: Boy, that's a great question.

I think the first thing is the empowerment of the citizen that the internet allows. It used to be that to do virtually anything, you had to work through some sort of gatekeeper. If you were buying a car, you had to go through a dealer. If you were wanting to stay in a place, you have to go book a room with a hotel.

And now, because of technology, you can do anything, basically by yourself. And that's an incredible amount of empowerment. But, on the other hand, we always have to guard against this instinct of essentially crony capitalism, the phenomenon that you talked about. And to that extent, I think what people need to understand is that heavy-handed regulation is actually the friend of bigger businesses and for those who believe in big government. Because -- the big companies are always going to have the armies of lawyers and accountants to comply with these regulations, to persuade government to do favors on this or that issue. It's the smaller companies that are disproportionately affected. And the second thing is that it's very seductive for a lot of people to think, "Well, the market just leaves consumers at the mercy of these wild and unpredictable forces." When in reality, the market has delivered more value for consumers than preemptive government regulation ever could.

I mean, the fact that we have billions of people who are emerging from poverty now is the result of free market policies. It's not because the governments of these various countries have suddenly decided to bestow largesse upon them. And so it's a case that we consistently have to make that crony capitalism and big government regulation, those are not the friends of the average consumer.

GLENN: So we have -- we have a situation now of fake news. And it's been around forever. But it's at epidemic proportions because the average person has access to everybody. And the average person, you know, unfortunately doesn't think things through and really read everything. They see a headline, they click on it, and they share it.

We have some really nefarious people, some of them in Russia, that are using our own technology against us, using our own freedoms against us. We have the press -- I told you about Ted Koppel. But we also have the president coming out and saying, you know, you're fake news. And maybe we should be able to sue you more.

Does the FCC have a role in the First Amendment in saying to all sides, "Knock it off. The freedom of the press is the freedom of the press, no matter if it's a printing press or the internet. Knock it off?"

AJIT: Well, I've consistently said -- and this goes back to my time as a commissioner up to five years ago, that one of the distinctive features of America is the fact that we have a First Amendment. It's unique in human history for the government to establish in its very founding papers the notion that anybody in this country has the ability to speak, anybody has the ability to write, anybody has the ability to worship as he or she sees fit.

And that's something that requires not just the cold parchment of the Constitution, but it requires a culture that admires that -- those freedoms. And so I've consistently spoken about -- about the need to preserve that culture of freedom for speech and free press. Because it's a slippery slope. Once you lose it, it's very hard to reclaim it.

GLENN: You have a 50 -- what is it? A 50 or 60 percent of so-called conservatives saying that there's a limit to freedom of the press. Is there?

AJIT: Well, the Constitution speaks for itself. And so long as I have the privilege of occupying this office, I'll keep defending that core constitutional freedom. It's one of the things that I think makes America a very unique place across time and across the world.

GLENN: So I think with that answer, I just have to end where I started: How the hell did you get past Barack Obama?

AJIT: That's a good question. I'm not sure how I slipped through the cracks.

GLENN: I don't know either.

AJIT: But maybe it's the -- sort of like the Forrest Gump of the Washington scene. Just kept gamboling on, and here I am.

(laughter)

GLENN: Yeah. Okay. Ajit Pai, thank you so much for talking to us.

PAT: Great.

GLENN: And keep up the good work.

AJIT: Thank you, sir. Thanks for having me on.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.

PAT: And thanks for the shout-out to Areopagitica. That's -- I think that's a first.

JEFFY: Right.

GLENN: Oh, how many times have we talked about -- off the air --

PAT: All the time. All the time.

STU: Talked about all the time.

GLENN: Okay. You know what I love --

PAT: Talked about all the time. Milton's Areopagitica.

JEFFY: Right!

Did Biden Have a Senior Moment In Front of G7 World Leaders?
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Did Biden Have a Senior Moment In Front of G7 World Leaders?

President Biden's appearance at the G7 summit is turning heads. One video that went viral on social media shows a dazed-looking Biden moving incredibly slowly while watching parachuters, and the Prime Minister of Italy even had to help him. Glenn reviews this senior moment, as well as some of the other ones Biden has had just in the past week! Plus, Glenn reviews Biden's latest announcements about sending even more taxpayer dollars to Ukraine.

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GLENN: Good thing the G7 you summit where all of the big leaders get together and, you know, have a powwow and talk about, what we're going to do to cause some more war and higher inflation!

They got together, and they were watching a -- just a fantastic skydiving event. That was done for -- for them. Now, remember, I just -- just remember, these are the ones that are always saying, global warming! Global warming!

So not only did they fly over in their own planes, to get together. But then, they sent an airplane up with people in it, to jump out, for their entertainment.

So I'm taking them seriously. But they're all standing there on an open field, watching these guys come down, except for -- except for Joe Biden.

He watches for a while. And then he decides, eh. Squirrel.

And he starts to meander and walk away from. And it's -- it's incredible footage to watch.

Because you can see none of the prime ministers or presidents, know what to do. As he just wanders off. He's facing the wrong direction.

And you see Prime Minister Maloney from Italy, she's the only one that gracefully knows how to get him out. She kind of backs out. And then grabs him. Like over here. We have cookies.

Who wants a cookie?

Look at cookies. Say cookie.

It is -- it is horrifying how bad he is.

And then he puts his glasses on, at twice the speed that it takes for him to sit down at ceremonies.

I don't know if you remember that footage, from earlier this week. Last weekend, where he was trying to sit down. Looked like he crapped his pants. He didn't crap his pants.

He was just deciding, should I sit down?

Or not? Maybe I should stand. Okay?

That's what was going true his head. He must know whether he was -- he started to sit town. Then he was like, oh, nobody else is.

You just stand up, man. You just stand back up. It's no big deal. We've all done it.

But he just froze. Like, I'm thinking.

When he's putting his sunglasses on, he's like, I have to lift my arm.

The pressure on my gun glasses enough, to keep them held up, so I can put them on now on my face over my ears. Done.

What do they -- honestly, what do they Jack him up with?

Because they've got to Jack him up with something.

Because there's no way. That's not the guy who speaks to us in like major interviews.

Or when he believes in to address empress, for the State of the Union. He's like, hey, man.

I have to tell you, everything is going great. I mean, save our economy is great. I don't know what they're putting him on, but that ain't Joe Biden. Yeah, shocking. Shocking.

JASON: The difference is shocking. In the interviews, he's with it. But when he gets on a stage. Maybe he's just allergic to stages. I don't really know what it is.

GLENN: Or in this case, it's a field.

JASON: Field. Yeah. It's that -- remember that, when he was just -- when he got stuck in that one facial expression!

When he was -- what was that event at the White House or whatever? For Juneteenth. It was stuck. It was like everything just stopped.

GLENN: Yeah. Can you play that?

Do we have that video from earlier this week? I'm not sure we still have that.

But that video from him from the Juneteenth celebration, that happened actually the last weekend. The weekend before was, I'm going to sit -- so it's once a week, we're getting these major things.

And he was standing at Juneteenth. And everybody was moving with the music and everything else.

That he had joker smile on him.

Go ahead and roll that, will you?

He had this joker smile on his face. No. That's not it.
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That's another great one too. He has this joker smile on him, that doesn't move.

He's like, I -- I am happy to be here. And everybody is happy. Jill told me to keep smiling. So I'm smiling. I'm smiling.

That's all I'm doing. Smile. Smile. Smile. She didn't tell me to move.

And smile. I'm just smiling. And not moving.

JASON: That's just creepy.

GLENN: It is creepy. He is -- you know who looks more LifeLock?

The audio-animatronic Joe Biden. It will be one in Disney, that's like, man, they nailed him! They didn't get better. He just always looks like he's an audio-animatronic.

JASON: Yeah. I don't want to guess what might be wrong with him.

But my father had lupus. And he would have like little micro strokes.

And it just, all of a sudden, he would just check out. He would kind of stop and kind of gaze. And what he was doing, he was having micro strokes. And that is eerily similar from what I saw from him.

GLENN: Well, this is -- one of my daughters, you know, Mary, she has not significant strokes.

Or, significant seizures.

And this -- this really cutting edge procedure, that I wouldn't have done.

She chose to do it.

I would have been too afraid.

Because they said to her. You may wake up. And you may not recognize anybody.

You may not be able to speak. Or know people's names.

I mean, we don't know what we're doing here.

But we think we know what we're doing. But we don't. And brave girl, she was like, do it!

I don't want to live like this anymore.

Just do it.

So they did. And she was seizure free, for about two years.

And now they've come back. Pretty hard.

And hers are really getting grand mal-ish.

My other daughter has a seizure, where she is like Joe Biden, but just a very short period of time.

Where she's like, and you're like, hello!

Hello.

What?

And we didn't for a long time. Didn't know they were seizures. Probably like your dad. We didn't know.

Just thought he drifted for a minute.

And, yeah, but that's not.

I think he's just gone. I think he's just gone. Here's Biden yesterday, promising Ukraine, a lot more money! Great.

BIDEN: By the way, the idea that we had to wait until we passed the legislation overall, maybe held up by a small majority of our Republican colleagues, is just terrible. And there's a lot more money --

GLENN: Can you stop? Can you stop?

Play that again. I want you to listen to what the president of the United States just said. Listen again.

BIDEN: By the way, the idea that we had to wait until we passed the legislation overall, held up by a small majority of our Republican colleagues.

GLENN: Stop!

The idea that we had to wait, for Congress to pass this, before we could do it, is just horrible.

That's the constitutional process, dude!

He's complaining that you have to wait before you spend money on something that's controversial!

What is that?

That's the cry of a dictator. Now, you can say, because of our system, we had to wait.

And, you know, it's just the way -- you know, a republic, and a democracy, it's not pretty all the time. As Churchill said. It's the worst, until you compare it to everything else.

And then you realize, it's the best. It's the best of the worst.

You know, sorry we had to delay on that. But we have certain things that we have to do.

But the money is there now.

No! He's saying the very idea that we had to wait. Do you know that famous speech from FDR?

A date that will live in infamy?

Do you know what that speech was? That speech was for the president to make that case in front of Congress, to go to war!

There was never a clearer at least, you know, in the last 100 years. There's no clearer declaration of war, than bombing Pearl Harbor. Right?

Bombing all of our ships.

Today, we would have just launched!

The president back then. This is how far we've drifted.

The president back then, even after Pearl Harbor, went the very next day to Congress.

And gave that speech. And then they voted. The very idea that we have to vote on things in Congress. I've done everything I can to make Congress and the Constitution just, you know, a rubber stamp.

But I'm not there yet. So let me promise you, that there's a lot more money coming. Oh, my gosh.

JASON: That's an interesting point you make.

I caught him do this in the past. These very fundamental beliefs in the past. They clearly just do not believe in.

Like, every time he threatens us with the F-15 remark that he said about 60,000 times. I never really got annoyed that it was a threat.

I never really took it that way. What really annoyed me, was he is making fun of the fundamental, you know, right of self-defense, that we have in this country.

The fundamental right, that if there ever becomes a tyrant, you have the tools to stand up and push back, and say no.

You have that right to put -- go ahead.

GLENN: You not only have the right, as it says in the Declaration of Independence. You have the duty, to overthrow the shackles of a tyrant.

JASON: Yes.

GLENN: And you're right. But, Jason, as somebody who was in Afghanistan, right after 9/11, I don't know.

Those F-15s. Everything that we -- everything that we threw at them. They're still in charge of Afghanistan, aren't they?


JASON: Yeah. I don't think F-15s help them out too much.

Neither do the Northern Vietnamese.

History is full of insurgencies that have been successful. You know, on this Ukraine funding thing, we've done multiple different shows on some of this stuff.

And what will shock you. If you just kind of look and try to trace some of these funds.

Whether they're coming from Congress, or some other agency within this government.

It is everywhere!

Like, just look at the news. You'll look, it's like, oh, Secretary Blinken was in Ukraine yesterday.

He promised 200 million. Yeah. Where did that come from?

Congress did not approve that.

GLENN: That's the -- that's the chevron case. That's the chevron case.

They can't do that! Only Congress has the purse strings. Only Congress can issue more spending. It must start in Congress.

We've completely disregarded the Constitution.

It's not only hanging from a thread.

I think the thread is so frayed that it's broken. And we're not even using it at all. Or we're the closing that we've ever been to absolutely destroying everything that everybody worked and died. Died for.

Anyway, so he's promising more money. A

But don't worry the experts get it.

Here is Janet Yellen, telling us that, you know, you just don't get it. You don't understand. We're smarter than you. Cut nine.

VOICE: All Americans, both those who are well-off.

And those at the bottom. Of the income distribution. They're better off. Their wages have risen more than prices.

GLENN: Okay. All right. Good is bad. Bad is good.

Up is down, down is up.

And prices are down. And your wages are up. So everybody knows this.

America, can you afford to be led by these people, another four years?

Can You AFFORD Another Four Years of Biden?
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Can You AFFORD Another Four Years of Biden?

Inflation continues to rise, housing prices are insane, and our government continues to spend, spend, spend! Meanwhile, the American people are hurting. And what is the Biden administration and mainstream media saying? Everything’s fine! And everything that isn’t fine is somehow Trump’s fault…even after 4 years. Glenn wants you to ask yourself one question before the 2024 election: Can you AFFORD another 4 years of this?

Transcript

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GLENN: Record prices now, gold, coffee, copper, cocoa. You look at the news, in our show prep today.

They talk about, well, you know, the fed says they've got this under control. Maybe it looks like they don't. No. You know who the fed looks like doesn't have under control, is the spending under the United States government.

The United States government is printing $1 trillion every 100 days. $1 trillion every 100 days. Just put that in your pipe and smoke it, for a minute. What do you think will happen for inflation. When they're dumping 100 trillion -- I'm sorry. $1 trillion into the economy every 100 days. Of course, we will have inflation!

It's only going to get worse! But, you know, it's so amazing, that we -- we keep looking for answers, from the people who caused the problem.

You know, people still look at the New York Times and go, oh, you know, the New York Times. Well, what are they saying?

What do you mean, what do they say? How does the New York Times have any credibility at this point?

They were, you know, leading the way. They still can't admit the Hunter Biden thing.

They still can't admit it.

How? How? How?

You know, you're -- you're -- you were peddling the nonsense that that was Russian disinformation. And up the even offended by it, when you found out, that that wasn't true.

You weren't even offended. You didn't ask the people who told you, you know, in the Intel industry.

You didn't say, hey, dude, you really led me astray on this one.

How did these people have any credibility?


PAT: The New York Times best-seller list? How about that? How about the -- the Economist just did a story on how conservatives are short-changed by the New York Times best-seller list.

Of course, this is something you've been going through for decades now. We've known about this for a long time.

And it's a much worse problem than the Economist even knows. They say that their analysis found that books published by conservative printing houses are 7 percent less likely to make it on to the New York Times weekly best-seller list. It's a lot worse than that.


GLENN: It's a lot worse than that.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, I said this example earlier. That my last book, which was not The Great Reset. It was Dark Future.

When Dark Future came out, we sold twice the number of books. I think it was Dark Future. It might have been Great Reset. I can't remember.

Twice the number of books, as the author that was given the number one status. And it used to be that they would hold you out of the number one slot.

You know, they might make you two or three, if it was even close. But if it was that different, in the old days. You would still get the number one spot.

Now, I went from double the sales, of the people they put in, at number one. And I made 15th on the list.

PAT: I mean, how did they justify that? That's crazy.

GLENN: Their own algorithms. Their own algorithms.

PAT: Yeah. Don't they wait to certain bookstores more than others?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Independent bookstores, but that's not enough to do what happened there.

That's just not enough.

You know, they have their own agenda. And that's fine. I just wish they would be open about it, you know what I mean?

Stop lying to people and saying, that that is -- BookScan is the real number one, number two, number three.

You know what I mean? It just scans the books that are sold. Still however, you know, sold, you know, through the traditional things. For instance, I don't care about this anymore.

And we are doing everything we can, with Mercury Inc. To print and distribute ourselves.

And we still can't get away from a big publishing house, distributing, because it's just -- it's almost a monopoly. At this point.

You just don't have the ability to distribute into bookstores.

And then Amazon, takes 50 percent. I mean, did you do 50 percent of the work, Amazon? Really?

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: I just don't find that reasonable, at all. But they're Amazon. So we're selling, my latest book, Chasing Embers through GlennBeck.com. Which will not go through BookScan. Will not do any of this stuff.

PAT: So it won't be logged by the New York Times.

GLENN: No. It won't be logged by the New York Times or anybody. Because we're not a part of BookScan, so -- and I don't care.

I really don't care. I want to -- I'm tired of putting my money and my effort, and then putting it into institutions, that are trying to kill us.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Do you remember, Pat, when we used to go on tour? Bookstores. And how many hostile bookstores we would walk into, that just found me despicable?

PAT: Yeah. Most of them.

GLENN: But they did it, because they knew they would sell a lot of books. Just tired of it.

Don't have to do it. Don't have to do it.

PAT: It's interesting. Because in this economist article. They say that leading conservative authors like you and Bill O'Reilly.

Are frequently listed on the New York Times best-seller non-fiction list.

But less prominent writers have a more difficult time making the cut.

And like you just explained though. While you're on the list.

You're not where you should be on the list.

It's not accurate. Because they fudge even those numbers.

GLENN: Yeah. So you know. Because you probably think this is a lot of wining about trophies. It's not.

The New York Times. If you get on the top ten New York Times, then your book is automatically put in every airport. It's automatically put in the front of the stores.

Otherwise, it just kind of languishes on a back shelf someplace. So -- and that's what they want. That's why they don't put. You know, that's why, The Great Reset and Dark Future, could not be a top ten best-seller. It had to be 15.

It could not be a top ten. Why?

Because then it would get the exposure that they must want it to have.

So it's not -- by the New York Times doing this, it's not about money. And it's not bragging rights. It is -- it is about exposure and having your book placed in places like airports, where people go in to buy a book. And they're going to go take a flight or take a vacation.

And they will see your book. They will carry ten. The top best-sellers. And if you're not in that, you're not seen. So you don't get discovered.

That's the problem. And nobody is really -- nobody has really articulated that. They make it seem like it's, I don't know, it's petty.

I want to be a top -- top ten, New York Times best-seller list. Because that says something about me. That says nothing about anybody.

Let's see, California's minimum wage, the 20-dollar minimum wage, for fast food workers.

Yeah. Kind of putting people out of business. First of all, McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, hyped prices to offset the higher cost.

Who would have seen that come? I mean, how many times does it take before people understand basic economics?

The price of the goods or service, goes up, when it costs the company, that is providing those goods and services, when it costs more to get that to you. They raise the price.

That's the way business works. Communism, doesn't work that way. Communism, it just -- they just do what they want to do. And price doesn't matter.

And that's why you have crappy stuff. You have crappy distribution.

And supermarkets, that, you know -- I would feel safer, I would feel safer in the streets, in eating the food off the streets in China. Than I would in -- in Venezuela.

In the grocery store.

PAT: It's a really hard decision too, for a lot of small businesses. I have a small business, and when the price of the ingredients goes up, for a while, you just eat that cost. You know, and then eventually, you can't any longer. You can't.

GLENN: I know.

PAT: When butter goes from $70 for the -- in the volume that we buy it in, from $70 to 143, then eventually, that price is going to go up. You know, it's crazy.

GLENN: Jeez. Well, it's the same thing. We talked about this at the Blaze all the time. You know me, Pat. I hate -- because I grew up in radio, which was free. I hate charging for stuff.

I would so gladly go on tour. And not make a dime.

You know, if -- if I didn't have to pay the money. I wouldn't charge people to come in.

And I'm always arguing, can we get the price lower? Can we get the price lower?

Because I remember, and so do you. What it's like, when you are on the edge.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: And I don't want to -- I hope to God, I'm not there, again.

But there's a chance that all of us are there again. And it -- it kills me. It just kills me. And I think that the owners of stores and makers of products, that actually see the end user. Like, I don't think -- Nike doesn't care.

You know what I mean? They don't care. There are companies that actually care, about the end user. And think about them.

We're one of those people. And every time we're -- I mean, we -- we pay above industry standard, in -- at the Blaze. Okay?

We're either competitive, or just above industry standard. Well, you can't live on industry standard now!

But what do you do?

You keep raising it, so everybody. And then not raising the price. And then if you raise the price. Then the customers can't afford it. And it goes away. And the whole thing.

This is what every business is going through right now.

And, you know, I really -- I will be -- I will absolutely be convinced that this is a fraudulent election.

If for the first time, in history, the -- the economy extent play the major role.

Look at -- can America survive another four years? Can you survive another four years, going down this road?

Can you afford it? Just, let's ask that. Can Americans afford another four years.

Because everything is going up. You're not able to buy a house. You're not able to get a loan on anything that is reasonable. And it's only going to get much, much worse.

And I don't know if you saw the jobs report yesterday.

So in the jobs report, the -- the fed chief, Powell came out and said, yeah. These. These jobs reports.

The books are being cooked a bit.

Wait. What?

All of the jobs that have been created, are part-time jobs.

And I shouldn't say all. The vast majority, are part-time jobs. And almost no American citizens are getting the jobs, that are actually being reported as being created.

It's almost all illegal aliens now.

PAT: Hmm.

GLENN: I mean, you know, you them, well, it was a pretty good jobs report. Yeah, for illegal aliens.

Can you afford another four years of this?

3-Pronged ATTACK: Globalists’ Plan to END SOVEREIGNTY Revealed | Ep 358
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3-Pronged ATTACK: Globalists’ Plan to END SOVEREIGNTY Revealed | Ep 358

The largest globalist power grab IN HISTORY is currently underway, thanks to the World Health Organization, the United Nations, and the European Union. It’s all going down as political chaos rocks Europe: Right-wing factions are beating their globalist counterparts in elections in France, Germany, and Belgium. The elites have pushed too far on food and energy regulation, unfettered immigration, and spending, and the people are rising up. But we can’t let these "wins" distract us, because there still remains a long battle for freedom ahead. Glenn reveals documents that show how the new world order currently is taking steps to extend its control beyond the European Union ... all before the 2024 presidential election. This September, during the United Nations' annual meeting, member states are expected to sign a "Pact for the Future.” It started during the COVID-19 pandemic and has been in development ever since. The pact is expected to include a U.N. Emergency Platform that would essentially give the U.N. secretary general incredible authority to control a future "crisis," which he himself can effectively declare. But don’t Americans have constitutional laws in place to protect our sovereignty? Justin Haskins, coauthor of “The Great Reset” and “Dark Future,” warns that the Biden administration has already said it supports these globalist plans. And to make matters worse, the EU just formally passed a mandatory, global ESG system that will drastically affect U.S. businesses. He says this is now one of the biggest threats to freedom in America unless Congress and the president act NOW.

Why Does Michigan Have MORE Registered Voters Than Citizens?!
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Why Does Michigan Have MORE Registered Voters Than Citizens?!

BlazeTV host Sara Gonzales has uncovered some massive issues with Michigan’s voting system ahead of the 2024 election. For starters, Michigan’s George Soros-funded Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, tried to allow the state to count ballots received after election day. She has also championed a measure that would allow same-day registration without a photo ID. What could possibly go wrong when there’s ZERO verification, Sara and Glenn say! To make matters worse, the state has also expanded mail-in voting. And the icing on the cake? 105% of the state’s population is registered to vote! Gee, how could that have happened?

But that’s just the beginning of what Sara and the Blaze Originals team discovered. It’s all exposed in the new documentary, “Voter Fraud Exposed: How Elections Can Be Stolen,” available NOW at https://BlazeTV.com/Glenn

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Blaze TV host of Sara Gonzales unfiltered. It was really hard. We started with the name. And then we were like. We have to have to find Sara Gonzales to be able to do this show. We might have thought about doing it a different way. We found her. And she is perfect.

She is the perfect Sara Gonzales host unfiltered.

Sarah, welcome to the program. How are you?

SARA: Thank you. I'm good. I consider that job security. You won't find another Sara Gonzales.

GLENN: Yeah. We looked. We looked. So, anyway, you're doing another Blaze original. We've all been doing this. This is episode five. The documentary has been called voter fraud exposed, how elections can be stolen. I have to tell you, I saw a rough cut of it. I don't even know, a couple weeks ago.

Oh, my gosh, Sara. Oh, my gosh. Just Michigan alone, is -- I mean, you sat down with the woman who was the secretary of state, right?

SARA: Yes. Yeah.

GLENN: I believe she was replaced by secretary of state. A part of the George Soros thing.

SARA: Correct. Correct. Yes. Jocelyn Benson, yes.

GLENN: Uh-huh. And give people a clue, on just Michigan.

SARA: So, yes. In 2018, Jocelyn Benson replaced Ruth Johnson. Ruth Johnson was a Republican, who more importantly was interested in doing the right thing when it came to protecting the voter rolls. And keeping them secure and fresh. You know, dated. Or, I should say, not outdated. And so what Jocelyn Benson did, she is as you pointed out, Soros-funded.

She is former SPLC, just to give you an idea of who she is and what she's about. Yeah, and so she is one of these --

GLENN: Wow, in case you don't know that. That's Southern Poverty Law Center, which is the worst of the worst.

PAT: Oh.

GLENN: Okay. Go ahead.

SARA: So she is part of the Secretary of State project that George Soros is funding. So she comes into the state of Michigan.

And she tries to allow Michigan to count ballots that were received after Election Day. She was luckily sued. And lost that battle.

But since then. We've had ballot referendums, that you can have.

Same day registration. Same day registration. And you can register without showing a photo ID in the state of Michigan. And your vote counts.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

WILFRED: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: I mean, you need a photo ID for anything.

SARA: Everything. Everything.

GLENN: Except for the most important thing that a citizen can do.

SARA: Right. Right. And, well, we point out in the documentary. It's like, if I were not just in the state of Michigan. But I would imagine, most other states and cities. If you go to your local library.

You can't get a library card without showing your ID. It is insane. That you shouldn't have to show your ID. In order to participate in the voting process.

And, by the way, this is something else we point out. It's like almost 80 percent of Americans, both left and right agree that you should have to show a photo ID in order to vote. This is not a partisan thing.

GLENN: I go down the street, from our ranch. There's a big lake across the street.

And I have to go about, I don't know. 5 miles to this little -- great little kind of general store.

I had to get a -- I had to get a fishing license.

I needed ID.

Everybody in there, knows who I am. I needed ID, to be able to get a fishing license!

PAT: Did you guys see Texas Representative Wesley Hunt talk about this yesterday?

GLENN: No.
SARA: No.

PAT: It's brilliant. He shows all of his government-issued -- he's black. He shows all of his government-issued IDs, including a driver's license and, you know, a passport. And he's got like six different forms of ID. Showing how insulting it is. That the left is saying that blacks don't have ID. It's ridiculous.

SARA: Well, this will give you kind of a clue as to how sinister this initiative is, is that Republicans in the state of Michigan, actually they had a bill that they passed. That was going to expand and allow free photo ID for people. So there would be no excuse to say, well, it's too expensive. And, you know, the idea is that minorities can't afford it. Which is inherently racist.

PAT: And we've been told, they don't know where the DMV is.

SARA: Which again seems a little racist to assume. So Governor Gretchen Whitmer actually vetoed that bill, but just to give you an idea of where -- what possible reason, as our friend Steve Deace likes to say. What is the innocent, benign explanation for vetoing such legislation? There isn't one.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: So they -- they can't even now, because of this new legislation, they can't even ask for ID.

SARA: Uh-huh. Correct.

GLENN: So you go in, right? To the voting booth.

You want to go into the voting booth.

You go in, and you say, my name is Glenn Beck.

And, you know, they'll probably. Maybe. I don't know. Do they ask for an address?

And they look you up if you're on the roles. Or in the case of Michigan. You can now just register. You can go in, and say, I'm not registered.

I want to register right now.

But none of it is hooked up to the internet. So they can't verify anything.

SARA: Right.

GLENN: So you can go ahead and register. And get a ballot and vote.

PAT: What could go wrong?

GLENN: What could possibly go wrong?

SARA: And it's always from the left, who claims that they care so much about democracy. Which is just so laughable at this point.

Not that we have a democracy, but if you did care about democracy. And you did care, you know, about the state of your country. You would want election integrity and security. That would be at the top of your list. And instead, you know, they're trying to -- in the state of Michigan, again, I will go back to the state of Michigan again.

In the state of Michigan, they now have a constitutional right to vote by mail. I mean, you are talking about such an outdated system. I think France banned it in like 1975. France uses paper.

All of these other First World countries. Civilized countries have decided that mail-in voting is terrible, a horrible way of doing things.

We have -- Jimmy Carter coauthored a bipartisan report that said, we can't have mail-in voting because it makes it more likely to -- you know, to have fraud and all sorts. This was something that we all agreed upon, decades ago. And now all of a sudden, there are states that are run by these left-wing secretary of state, you know, secretaries of state. And they are going in and changing the system to allow these types of things.

GLENN: Let me ask you. Let me ask the average -- the average person. You're driving in your car. And you hear about Glenn's bank.

Say that you knew a Glenn that had any kind of credibility at all. Glenn's bank.

Yeah. And we invite you in, to put your money in our bank.

And we will make it easy for you to write checks.

We will make it easy for you to come in. Withdraw your money.

We're never going to ask you for ID.

Would you put your money in that bank?

SARA: Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

GLENN: Right! So why would we do this with elections?

On anything.

On anything. It's crazy.

So give me some white pill news. Can you?

SARA: Yeah. I think so. Everyone will see. When they go and watch these new Blaze originals. That they can go watch right now. They will see some hope in the sense that there are organizations, that are working around the clock to prevent these types of things from happening.

They are largely successful. And the courts, one of them is, of course, PILF. The Public Interest Legal Foundation. I spoke with them. They are suing the crap out of these states and out of these secretaries of states, who are engaging in this business.

They are suing about the -- you know, all of the dead people on the voter rolls in the state of Michigan.

The RNC is now suing the state of Michigan, for the -- you know, why it's that there's 105 percent of Michigan population, that's currently registered to vote.

And, you know, I'm not great at math.

But I'm good enough to know, that there's something a little bit wrong with that.

GLENN: Right. Go ahead.

GLENN: It's hard to have 105 percent of anything. I'm going to have 105 percent of that pie over there. Wow. That's a skill.

SARA: Right. Right stop, you know, in talking to these experts. They say, vote. Don't be discouraged and not vote. Because we can still blow them out. We can still overwhelm the system.

And we should. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Knowledge is power. I mean, we are exposing these people for what they're doing. And the more exposure that we can give them. The less likely it is, that they are able to just commit this in broad daylight.

And like I said, we have these -- these legal foundations, who are suing these states. And in most cases, in a lot of cases. They are largely successful in that.

So if secretary of state Benson isn't going to remove dead people from their voter rolls, until the courts force her to.

Well, you know what, at the end of the day, she will still will be forced to remove these people. So we are making moves. We have organizations that are tackling this.

We have to expose this, for what it really is.

GLENN: I will tell you, I think that there is a -- a good chance that a random slide does happen.

I mean, I -- I just can't imagine going into the booth, and you being a Democrat.

And pulling the lever for more of this. And saying, yeah. I want. And I think Joe Biden. Is the guy to trust with possible World War III.

I think he's got the economy right.

I think, you know, all of the things that he's done. You might pull it for RFK Y. Or Trump.

But, I mean, cannot see people voting for him.

And -- and honestly, when people ask themselves. Am I -- am I -- was I better off four years ago?

Like a lot better off?

The answer is yes!

And we have always asked, I wish somebody would just run this place like a business.

Well, that's what Donald Trump was doing. And look at the results until COVID happened.

So go out and vote.

I think if everybody. They're going to try to plaque pill you.

But if -- if you don't listen to that. And you go out and vote. I think the numbers will be overing. But what do I know.

SARA: Well, I would tell you this, Glenn. There are certain states that have already passed election integrity and voter security laws. And so states like Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Florida. I mean, the more states that are passing these voter integrity laws, which I know the left will tell you is racist.

And they'll tell you, they are not allowing you to drink water in line, and all of these other lies.

The fact of the matter is, are these states making elections more secure. And we can have other states follow suit in that.

GLENN: All right. Blaze original. Episode number five.

Voter fraud exposed. How elections can be stolen. It's a new doc. And it's out now. If you're Blaze TV subscriber. If you're not, go to BlazeTV.com/Glenn. And what is the promo code? Is it voter fraud?

SARA: Voter fraud, yes.

GLENN: Voter fraud. And you can watch it now. On Blaze TV. Sara, thank you so much.