GLENN: Welcome to the program.
Okay. So we heard from Brian May. Now let's hear what Bono said about the Manchester bombing.
JIMMY: As you know, there was another senseless terrorist attack in Manchester yesterday.
PAT: Obviously on Jimmy Kimmel.
JIMMY: And that's something you guys have been thinking about, certainly.
BONO: They -- they hate music. They hate women. They even hate little girls. They hate everything that we love.
And, you know, the worst of humanity was on view in Manchester last night. So was the best. As people took perfect strangers into their hands, and cued up blood banks. Manchester has an undefeatable spirit, I can assure you.
GLENN: Now, listen to the difference.
PAT: Listen to the difference between him and Brian May.
GLENN: Listen to the difference.
PAT: That almost sounds like what George Bush used to say all the time.
GLENN: No, but that's true.
PAT: They hate our music. They don't like Ariana Grande.
PAT: They don't like our -- tunes.
PAT: They hate freedom.
PAT: They don't like bowling. They don't like professional bowlers. They don't like the bowling shoes. They think they're ugly.
Even the size 12, they didn't like them at all. In fact, size 12 bowling shoes set them off more than anything else.
STU: That's great.
GLENN: There's more to Bono that you absolutely have to hear. One of the -- one of the bravest --
GLENN: One of the bravest -- he's kind of the Jon Voight though of music. Jon Voight is like, I got my Oscars. They don't know what to do with me now anyway. I'm still going to act in all their movies because they love me.
That's who he is. Bono is Jon Voight of music.
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GLENN: All right. So let's play the Manchester from Jimmy Kimmel and Bono. I think Bono is -- is an amazing guy. Truly an amazing guy.
And I don't know if he is -- if he's changed, if he was as lefty as we thought. Or if he was just so popular, the left just brought him in and said, "Oh, Bono, you're on great. And you agree with us on everything." And he got credit and blame for things that he really didn't believe. I don't know.
PAT: Possibly. Because I remember disliking him a lot, thinking he was a wacko progressive.
GLENN: Well, you were a big U2 fan.
STU: I'm still a big U2 fan. Actually seeing them on Friday in Dallas.
JEFFY: Heck yeah.
GLENN: Are you really? I've never seen them.
STU: Oh, they're fantastic. This one is the Joshua Tree Tour. So they're going back -- I guess it's the 30-year anniversary of the Joshua Tree. So they're doing the whole album. And I think just that.
GLENN: If they're playing anywhere, when I get back from vacation, if they're anywhere close, let's all go as a show. I've never seen them. I hear they're great.
STU: They are. I've been a big fan for a really long time. But I've always felt like the right gave him an unfair shake when it comes to who he is. Because he's seen as sort of this crazy liberal activist. And he was big on supporting AIDS charities and debt relief and sort the these global causes that you'd associate with every left-wing annoying celebrity --
PAT: AIDS for Africa.
GLENN: And there's nothing -- there's nothing wrong with any of that.
STU: Of course not.
GLENN: I always just assumed that he was with the United Nations. And I think he was.
GLENN: And then it didn't work.
STU: You know, I think -- he's no hard-core conservative by any means.
GLENN: No, no.
STU: But he's always been a big capitalist. And I think he's always -- he's always been religious and had a really impassioned --
PAT: And he's not afraid to talk about it.
GLENN: He was always religious?
STU: Yeah, going back to the beginning of the band.
JEFFY: Pretty much.
STU: I think he's had times where he's had his ups and life. I mean, he's lived a life. He's lived a rock star life too.
GLENN: I mean, I've heard him mention Jesus a lot lately.
GLENN: I mean, it must be one of his up periods because nobody talks -- nobody uses the J word.
STU: He's been more outspoken, I think, recently.
STU: But he's always had that influence. And, like, one of the things he got beat on was this RED project he did. Now, the RED project was -- you might remember it. It had like -- it was all shirts. And a lot the people, and celebrities were wearing them for a while. It said like, "Inspired." And RED was in parentheses. And it raised money for global charities, and it was a big deal.
And, you know, the media and also a lot on the right, kind of jumped on him. Was like, well, here you go. I think they raised $100 million or something. And they -- but, you know, like, I can't remember exactly what it was. It was something like at the end of -- at one period, they had only sent something like $20 million to -- to these charities. And it's like, well, think about what he did there, from a conservative perspective from a moment.
He worked with dozens of actual stores. He didn't just ask for free money. He worked with actual capitalist institutions, designed clothing that people wanted to wear, and then took a chunk of that money and gave it to charity.
GLENN: 20 percent.
STU: It was something like 20 percent that he gave to charity. Now, he didn't give every dime of it to charity. You know, there were licensing fees that they paid. He got criticism for that. And the fact that they were working for these big companies that only want profit and get people in the stores, and they buy other things.
GLENN: You had to have license, or people would rip it off. And then you would have nothing.
STU: Exactly. And here's a guy who actually worked through capitalism, to improve the world.
GLENN: That's why.
STU: And isn't that -- that's why he got beat up by places like the New York Times. But the right jumped on it because, oh, it's a celebrity.
GLENN: It's so weird that you say that. Because I almost said, when he started his RED campaign, I almost said -- that's when I started to like him. Then I thought -- maybe it wasn't. I don't know when -- but it was around that period that I started to think, "I think this guy gets it."
STU: Yeah. And you would talk to I'm sure Bono about a million topics. And you would disagree with him on half of them probably. He's no Libertarian.
GLENN: Sure. But you're a huge fan of his.
STU: I'm a huge fan.
GLENN: Right. You remember the time when I met him and spent like a half hour with him, we just chatted?
PAT: In New York, when he was doing the --
STU: I do remember that.
GLENN: Yeah. You weren't there. But I just chatted with him. We're buds.
PAT: It seems like you didn't even know who he was at that time.
GLENN: I mean, I knew he was part of U2. But I had never seen any of his contests or anything like that, but you --
JEFFY: He was asking you advice.
GLENN: Yeah, he was. He was asking me advice.
STU: Curing deadly diseases, and this is what you're going to focus on.
GLENN: Only because it drives you out of your mind.
STU: It does. It does.
GLENN: Okay. So listen to this from Bono. This came out earlier this week.
BONO: My mother died at my -- her own father's grave site, as he was being lowered into the ground -- I was fourteen.
She left me. But she left me an artist. I began the journey, trying to fill the hole in my heart with music, with my mates, my band mates. Finally, the only thing that could fill it is God's love. And it's a big hole. But luckily, it's a big love. I went finally to Jerusalem on a family pilgrimage.
PAT: Wow. Wow.
BONO: And I went to Golgotha. And I went to the site where -- and I had some time on my own -- where death died.
BONO: And I was like, wow, there it is. That's where death died.
And so --
BONO: -- I don't really believe in it.
PAT: Wow. From a rock star.
GLENN: That's unbelievable. I've never heard it described as where death died. That is fantastic.
JEFFY: Me either.
STU: He speaks in lyrics in normal conversation.
GLENN: Yeah, I noticed that when I was -- oh, you weren't there.
STU: No. I wasn't.
JEFFY: Oh, man.
PAT: Really, he's almost poetic.
PAT: A lot like Donald Trump, who is also so eloquent, that sometimes it just shoots right over your head.
GLENN: If I may quote what's her name, the country artist -- the girl -- the young girl remember I saw the 100 most important people in the world or influential people in the world thing. She got up in front of Elton John and said, "I have this theory that songs -- love songs are just poetry set to music."
PAT: That was so profound. Wasn't it?
GLENN: So profound. Who was it? I actually like her. She's the big country artist that really respect her for, you know, the way she treats her fans and everything. What's her name?
STU: Taylor Swift.
GLENN: Yeah. Elton John was sitting right in front of her, and he had never heard that before.
JEFFY: He probably never heard that before.
GLENN: I think he put his head in his hands at that point. He's like, oh, dear God.
She didn't say it to a crowd of influential or important people at all.
STU: That's good. U2's 1983 album War has a song called 40. Here's the quote. This is by the Edge, not Bono. The other guy in the band -- one of the other guys in the band, talking about what it came from.
So we had this slightly unusual piece the music, and We said, okay. What are we going to do with it? Bono said, let's do a psalm.
Opened up the Bible, and found Psalm 40. "This is it. Let's do it."
The song title is 40. Within 40 minutes, we had worked out the last few elements from the tune. Bono had sung it. We had mixed it. And literally, after finishing the mix, we walked out the door, and the next band walked in.
But, I mean, they did a song that was based on Psalm 40.
STU: One of their CDs. And this is 1983. This is not a new thing obviously.
GLENN: Is he Catholic?
STU: I think he is, yeah.
GLENN: Is it Scotland that is -- one of the -- is it -- is it -- is the struggle only in Ireland, between the Catholics and the Protestants?
PAT: Yeah, I don't think it's in Scotland.
GLENN: Why not? Aren't they right next door to each other? Aren't they a stone's throw away? Once you throw a mazel tov cocktail from Ireland to Scotland.
PAT: I don't think they do copycat protests. No, I don't think so.
GLENN: You don't think so?
Huh. Because I think they're basically the same country.
STU: Let's leave it to the expert on this debate. Jeffy, how would you describe that?
JEFFY: Describe what?
STU: Yeah. Okay. That's my new thing. Whenever there's a complicated topic, I just throw it to Jeffy as the expert because then he looks dumb instead of me.
GLENN: Right. Okay.
PAT: And then you get something really deep like, ugh.