MIKE: Kathy Griffin, Alec Baldwin, Jamie Foxx, Jim Carrey, this to me -- let me just mirror some things. Just a couple of things to just compare and contrast. We have to be fair. Ann Coulter is not allowed to speak on a college campus. They're going to burn the place down if she shows up there. I've been critical to some degree as successful -- and she's been a lot smarter than I am.
But I've been critical of the fact that there are times when she'll be inflammatory versus smart -- and what I mean by that, her point may be brilliant, but she delivers it in a way that incites people. Which is just her style. But at the same time, there's nothing that she's ever said that's compared to what we saw in that photograph. There's no doubt in the minds of anybody what symbolism that was. The conversation about a noose left at the black history museum is absolute symbolism. There's no doubt that is a horrible piece of symbolism.
There's no doubt in my mind or anybody else with an ounce of common sense, that Kathy Griffin, holding up a head by the hair, the same way you see those ISIS pictures and those ISIS videos, that was symbolism. And she thought that was funny. And it wasn't. It crossed a big line. Then she apologized. There came to be a point where I thought even that press conference she gave was staged. It was like, what can we possibly say that would be the worst thing that you would say if you've done something wrong? Well, let's blame the victim. Let's blame the Trump family for what I did.
But aside from that, the reaction from people, you have conservative speakers that are going to speak on campuses -- whether you agree with the way they deliver their message or not, and they're burning campuses down. The police have to be called because they're going to burn the place down to the ground for somebody speaking. And yet nobody seems to be outraged about this. Alec Baldwin defender. Jim Carrey. And I got to be honest, I'm a huge Jim Carrey fan. This is the part of it that really is difficult sometimes. I think Jamie Foxx is one of the most talented people in Hollywood.
Jim Carrey's movie -- the first time I saw Ace Ventura, I thought I was going to cry, I was laughing so hard. Very talented people. Love their work. But how can they be of the mindset -- Jim Carrey saying that comedians are supposed to push the line. That they're the last defense. They're the last people telling the truth.
Well, you're kind of full of yourself there. There's a lot of people that tell the truth. And when somebody says something you don't agree with, you call it hateful. You want them shut down. You don't like the message by Milo or by, you know, Ann Coulter. You don't like Glenn Beck, as a right-wing host, and that says inflammatory things.
Any of them. Pick any of us in talk radio. Me to a much lesser degree. Not as well known. But you get the same people that think you're hateful because of the things you say. And yet, they'll make excuses and defend Kathy Griffin. She's telling the truth. She's one of the last people telling the truth.
Come on. What truth was she telling with those pictures? What truth was being told?
How was Kathy Griffin contributing to the argument that Donald Trump is a bad guy or a bad president with that picture? Do you realize -- you want to talk about propaganda. People are -- and the media reaction in the next hour, or the media reaction to the attacks in London. But one member of the media thinks that the president may be inciting attacks in America.
What do you think Kathy Griffin did? You don't think that the members -- the Islamists are going to say that there is an American woman holding the head of the dead president. That's what the Americans think of their president. You don't think that's used for propaganda with the enemy? How anybody could defend what she did is repulsive. And then, the other -- my other favorite part of this is they would then go after somebody like Ted Nugent or somebody else who said something. And at the very least, I would say to those people, what you've just said is that Kathy Griffin is no different than Ted Nugent.
Tell me what you think of Ted Nugent. Exactly. What do you think of Ted Nugent? How can you say anything different about Kathy Griffin and what she did? Except, she doubled down with a press conference. And I'll be honest, I think -- that was something contrived. To go out and blame the Trump family. Get a lawyer and say you're being bullied by the Trump family, seems to me that she is just trying to very much this as long as she can. That this now has become publicity for her.
And it has nothing to do with whether I'm a fan of her work or not. She has a right to say the things she says. But doing that, there's a backlash. There are always repercussions for what you do. And Kathy Griffin suffered repercussions. She lost her job at CNN. She got dropped by a casino. Was not going to air -- were not going to have her perform there. She lost a sponsor. What's wrong with that?
I mean, Bill O'Reilly left Fox News. And everybody said that's what happens when you behave that way. Well, there was no proof he did anything. There were a lot of accusations. He didn't go on trial for anything. His reputation was damaged. And if you listen to some people, they'll tell you that he didn't deserve to be fired. But he left.
So if there's repercussions for behavior, how could anybody argue with the repercussions that Kathy Griffin suffered? Well, the way you argue it is when you defend people you like, when you defend people that agree with you. That bad, abhorrent behavior is okay, as long as it's directed at somebody you hate. If it's somebody you like, it would be terrible.