GLENN: By the way, I don't know if you saw this: Defense Secretary Mattis said that North Korea's advancing nuclear missile programs were the most urgent threat to national security. In fact, yesterday he said, quote, they're a clear and present danger. That is war talk.
When you have the Defense Secretary saying, "Clear and present danger," that is -- that's law talk for a reason to go to war.
We have three aircraft carrier groups now off the coast of North Korea. The only time that we can find, that we have ever put three aircraft carrier groups together was right before the Gulf War. And before that, I think it was Bosnia. Any time we have ever launched a strike of any kind where the country is near water, we have had three aircraft carrier groups in the area. That's the only time that has happened in our past.
Hopefully, this is nothing to see here. But with that and Mattis saying clear and present danger, the world could change overnight.
GLENN: Jason, can you give me an update on the aircraft carriers in North Korea.
JASON: So we now have three that are hovering around the Korean Peninsula. Hasn't been seen since every other time we've actually gone to war. Kosovo, First Iraq War, Second Iraq War. That's the kind of troop movement and buildup we're seeing.
GLENN: We don't have -- I want to make sure this is clear: We don't have three aircraft carriers in a region unless we're going to war. That's the pattern.
What about the Secretary of Defense saying yesterday that North Korea is a clear and present danger?
JASON: Sounds like they're setting up a preemptive action to me.
GLENN: Can you think of a way that this ends well?
JASON: No. Not at all.
GLENN: Leon, when I was in -- when Pat and I were in Baltimore, we used to call the pizza places around the Pentagon. Do you remember this, Pat? The pizza places --
GLENN: We knew that when the pizza places would say tons of pizzas ordered for the Pentagon last night -- this was before the internet or anything. This was like 1989, we knew that when the pizza places were delivering at night, we were on the eve or a couple of days away from war.
Any sign that you have seen that this is going to end really horribly?
JASON: It's extremely difficult to predict, you know, anything pertaining to Korea. You know, their thought processes are not kind of in keeping with our traditional kind of game theory is. This is part of what makes it so difficult to react to them rationally. So we hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
GLENN: We have -- we have not seen this kind of buildup, except on the eve of war. And it's not good. And it could change -- it could change the entire world overnight.