GLENN: A man from El Salvador in the US, illegally, has sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law.
GLENN: He's going to be awarded $190,000 according to his attorney. Now, this happened last Thursday.
PAT: Heaven help us.
GLENN: Now, what happened? Imagine, San Francisco, they didn't turn in anybody.
GLENN: A guy -- Kate's Law happened in San Francisco. The guy who killed Kate. What was her last name?
GLENN: Shot by a guy who had been --
PAT: Deported five times.
PAT: Back in the country six times.
GLENN: Came back. Breaking the law. Drugs. All kinds of bad stuff. They refused to turn him over, and he went out and killed somebody.
Now, what did this guy -- 33 years old, what did this guy to have the San Francisco authorities go around the law -- their sanctuary city law --
PAT: Which it's really not a law, is it? Is it a law or is it a policy?
GLENN: It's a policy.
PAT: It does say law, but I think they're just policies.
GLENN: But the police follow that as law. They follow it. They always follow it.
PAT: Yes, they do.
GLENN: No matter how bad the guy is.
GLENN: So, again, the question is, what did this guy do? This is where this story just wreak to high heaven. What did this guy do?
PAT: Must have been bad, right?
GLENN: Right? Had to be.
No. He reported his car stolen. Police say they found it. He went to pick it up. And they asked him, "Are you here legally?" No. They turned immigration officials on to him.
PAT: Oh, no.
STU: Oh, my gosh.
GLENN: No, no, no. But before you get into the mocking of it, which is quite easy to do. Before you get into the mocking of it --
PAT: Yes, it is easy to do. Because this is ridiculous.
GLENN: Why -- why did they make an exception for this guy? He's a carpenter. He was building houses. He had a job. He was minding his own business. Here's a guy who reports crime. They say that's the number one thing for sanctuary cities.
GLENN: They don't feel comfortable reporting crime. So a guy reports crime. He's a victim. And they turn him over. Why?
JEFFY: That's a good question.
GLENN: Why? I do not have an answer at this point.
JEFFY: Because that's a good --
GLENN: But why?
STU: Well, the obvious one is that Trump handles thing differently. The pressure maybe is getting to some of these smaller communities.
JEFFY: Or this is their fightback. Right?
PAT: Or this is a way for them to say, this is exactly why we have this sanctuary city law so that crimes --
JEFFY: Right. Right.
GLENN: This happened under Obama, by the way.
PAT: So that crimes are reported.
PAT: So that crimes are reported, we must have it.
GLENN: So now the staff attorney at the Asian Law Caucus -- the Asian Law Caucus. This guy is not Asian.
GLENN: This guy is Pedro --
GLENN: -- Figueroa-Zarceno. He's 33. He's not Asian. The guy who is at the Asian Law Caucus decided to pick this up.
GLENN: And was represented by Sierra Hussein. Now, why did they take the case, and what is being done here? And I think you're exactly right, Stu. That they are using this as a case -- because he's a sympathetic figure. Here's the guy that everybody wants to say is the guy --
GLENN: -- you know --
PAT: We told you they won't report if you're going to do this. This guy is just reporting a crime.
GLENN: And he's a hard-working guy. He's here for a job. He's doing his job. He's paying his taxes.
JEFFY: We had to.
GLENN: Remember, Rosa Parks was not the first to stand up on the bus and say, "No, I'm not sitting in the back."
PAT: She was just the best one to represent the cause.
GLENN: Exactly right. There were other people before her --
PAT: There were teens, right? Young girls.
GLENN: She was the one -- she was the one that the system, if you will, picked and said, she's the one that has the great case.
PAT: We're going to run with her.
GLENN: She's perfectly articulate. She's got a clean record. I think she was married and had kids or whatever the situation was. But she was not the first to stand up. She was the one that the -- the movement chose and said, "You go do it."
STU: To quote Joe Biden, she was articulate and clean. It was a fairytale. It was a fairytale.
GLENN: No, that's when he was talking about something else.
GLENN: Why was this guy selected? Because, remember, he was arrested at the end of December --
PAT: December 2015.
GLENN: -- and they file suit in January. So they find him. They find each other.
PAT: Uh-huh. It was after Kate Steinle was murdered.
PAT: So even after that murder, they're still -- they're willing to -- I mean, this guy has a lot of nerve to turn around and sue the city for $190,000 when he shouldn't be here in the first place.
STU: That's amazing.
PAT: And they grant him that $190,000. They're trying to make a statement here.
GLENN: And I'm probably reading way too much into it.
GLENN: It just doesn't seem -- why break it on this one? Why break it on this one?
STU: Even us. We're strong on the border. The most ardent defender of ending sanctuary cities would admit that this is certainly a possibility to happen occasionally.
GLENN: Oh, it's going to happen over and over again. Not in San Francisco.
If this happened in Dallas, you would kind of understand it. This is San Francisco.
STU: You might as well wait for the perfect case, though.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. You're saying, it they were waiting for a case? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
STU: Because obviously -- the point is, you're making large decisions over large groups of people here, not saying that there never can be an exception to this rule. But you have to weigh the positives and the negatives. It's a cost-benefit analysis.
GLENN: If you're coming to the police to report a crime, I think I could easily side with, leave people alone. Let them report crime. You know what I mean? Don't ask any questions when you're reporting a crime because you don't want crime to happen. This is the worst-case scenario for people who say, hey, we have a problem with illegals.
Okay. Well, let's make sure they report crime. Let's give them a pass on reporting crime.
GLENN: You know what I mean? That's an easy compromise to make.
PAT: Yeah. We can work this out, easily.
GLENN: Why after Kate is singled out, this guy comes up to report a crime and all of a sudden --
PAT: They make him rich.
GLENN: Yeah. And San Francisco becomes a hardass with this guy?
GLENN: That's not right. Right?