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Is a ‘Win’ in Afghanistan Even Possible at This Point?

August 22, 2017
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President Donald Trump addressed the nation Monday night to give an update on the conflict in Afghanistan that left many uneasy.

While he criticized President Barack Obama during his campaign for not pulling U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, Trump announced not only that U.S. military would remain in the region, but also that the number of troops deployed there would increase.

“My original instinct was to pull out. And historically, I like following my instincts,” Trump said. “But all my life I’ve heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office, in other words, when you’re President of the United States.”

On radio Tuesday, Glenn, Pat and Stu debated whether or not victory is possible in Afghanistan, which is the longest conflict in American history.

“I think it should have been over 15 years ago,” Glenn said, later adding that “the point of war is to win and then to stop future wars.”

Pat agreed that the U.S. should have left after dealing with the problem.

“Fight it all out. Do the ‘shock and awe’ that you promised, only really do it, and then get out,” he said.

Stu was the only one with an opposing viewpoint, saying that “how do we win?” may be the wrong question at this point since the conflict in Afghanistan simply isn’t comparable to a war like World War II.

STU: Maybe. I don't know.

GLENN: Yeah. Stu is on a different page than I am on this Afghanistan thing. I think it should have been over 15 years ago.

PAT: Me too.

Fighting to win, fight it all out. Do the shock and awe that you promised. Only, really do it, and then get out.

I hate what they're doing now. And that's -- that's the problem, is they're not going to fight this the right way. They're not -- we're not going to -- we don't fight wars to win anymore.

GLENN: This doesn't teach anybody anything, except they can bleed us to death. It doesn't teach anybody anything. You go in --

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: The point of war is to win and then to stop future wars. So you go in and you fight it with everything you have and you take the breath away from the enemy until they say, "Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Stop. Stop. Stop." And then you stop and say to the whole world, "Don't do that to us. Don't try to bring down our buildings with our people in them, because we will do this again."

Now, you've paid the price, I think you've learned your lesson, we're moving on. Good luck to you. Leave us alone, and we will leave you alone.

That's the way you fight and win the war and the peace. How is this -- how is this going to -- what does a win look like, Stu?

STU: I'm coming to a point where I think that's the wrong question. And I know this is -- you know, I'm totally on the not mainstream of this room end of the audience. So I enter this completely knowing that.

GLENN: That's fine.

STU: But, you know, I don't know what a win looks like. I know what a win looked like in World War II. Right? World War II, we won. The Nazis are gone. We knocked them out. We won. Eighty million people died for that.

And while I -- I -- I'm really glad we won, which war would you rather have? A win in World War II or this, where we have lost 2,400 of our best people? And you can't not overstate how important that is. But it is different than 80 million.

PAT: Well, if you're going to compare the civilian casualties in enemy as well as ours, then you've got to make the death toll higher than that in Afghanistan. Because it's a lot higher than that.

STU: Yeah. Activist groups say about a million and a half.

PAT: Which in a country like Afghanistan, it's a lot of freaking people.

STU: It's really significant. I will say, that's an activist estimate that I don't believe. But still, it's hundreds of thousands likely.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: But, again, I mean, I don't know.

GLENN: So why are we killing them, again? Help me out.

STU: Well, look, if you -- I mean, this is -- we have 12 seconds here before we have to go to break so I don't think --

GLENN: That's why I asked you. So that way -- there's no way you can win. See --

STU: I kind of got that.

JEFFY: So wrong.

GLENN: -- this is what a win looks like.

STU: Really. This is it? Okay? I got it.

GLENN: Yes. You give? You give? Say uncle.

STU: Never!

POLL: Should Universities allow pro-Hamas protests?

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Just one day after Hamas’s surprise attack on Israel, which left over 1,400 people Israelis dead, 34 different student groups from Harvard University wrote a joint statement pinning the blame of Hamas' terrorist attack on Israel. In the following days after publishing this callous statement, these students staged a walkout and rallied in support of the Palestinians. As Glenn has discussed, this is not an isolated event, and campuses across the country have hosted similar rallies where antisemitic jargon like "we don't want no Jew state" and "globalize the intifada" is freely spewed.

Should Universities allow pro-Hamas protests?

While the Universities have not officially backed any of these rallies or student groups that organized them, they haven't stopped them either, which raises the question: should they? On one hand, these are American students in American Universities, who are protected by the First Amendment. On the other hand, history tells us how dangerous antisemitism is if left unchecked; and what of the rights of Jewish students to be safe on the campuses they pay to attend? Let us know what you think in the poll below:

Should Universities allow pro-Hamas protests? 

Would you feel safe if your child attended a University that allowed pro-Hamas protests?

 Should Universities allow pro-Israel protests?

Is pro-Hamas rhetoric protected by the First Amendment?

POLL: What do YOU think Israel should do about Gaza?

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Should Israel take over Gaza after defeating Hamas? This contentious historical question has resurfaced amid Israel's retaliatory airstrikes in Gaza following Hamas' terror attacks, which resulted in the greatest death of Jews since the Holocaust. Biden and the global elites have warned Israel against occupation of the Palestinian territory. When asked on 60 Minutes if he would support the Israeli occupation of Gaza, Biden said, “I think it would be a big mistake.” Today Glenn responded to Biden’s answer: “I don't think it's a mistake to occupy."

This has been a long-standing, polarizing issue that is now more relevant than ever, and we want to hear YOUR thoughts. Let us know in the poll below:

Would you support an Israeli occupation of Gaza?

Do you think the Israeli airstrikes in Gaza are justified?

Do you think a two-state solution is still possible?

Funding IRAN?! Here are the TOP 5 reasons Joe Biden should be IMPEACHED

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On September 12th, the House announced an official impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden with allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption. Naturally, the media quickly jumped to the President’s aid claiming that “there is no evidence to support these claims” and that the whole affair is a witch hunt.

If you’ve been listening to Glenn, you know that this is simply not the case. Biden has been committing impeachment-worthy deeds before he even stepped foot into the Oval Office—there’s no shortage of evidence to justify this inquiry. Here are 5 scathing reasons why Biden should be impeached:

He was responsible for the Afghanistan withdrawal disaster.

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The Biden administration began with the US's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. Under his watch, Biden left thousands of US citizens and allies stranded in the Taliban's hostile regime. Countless Afghan allies have been murdered by the Taliban due to the Biden administration's negligence.

He was involved with Hunter Biden's illicit foreign business dealings.

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There is clear evidence that Joe Biden was more than aware of his son Hunter's foreign business dealings. From suspicious money laundering through the Biden family's accounts to Joe's involvement with important business meetings within Hunter's company, there is mounting evidence to warrant an impeachment inquiry.

He lied about his involvement with Hunter's business dealings.

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Not only did Biden involve himself with his son's less-than-legal foreign business ventures, but he lied to the American people about it too, claiming he had NO KNOWLEDGE of what was going on.

He failed to protect the Southern border, and actively made it worse.

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Biden singlehandedly turned the Southern border into the worst illegal immigration crisis in US history. He reversed many policies set in place by the Trump administration, resulting in 2.3 million illegal immigrants flooding into the US under his watch, a historic high.

He sent IRAN AND HAMAS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

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Biden reversed the Trump-era policy that halted all funds going into Iran. The Wall Street Journal revealed the smoking-gun evidence proving that Iran trained AND funded Hamas before its gruesome terror attacks against Israel. Moreover, shortly before the attacks, the Biden administration unfroze $6 BILLION dollars of Iran's assets as a part of a prisoner swap. On top of this, Biden resumed $200 million worth of "humanitarian aid" to Gaza that Trump had ended—because the money was being used to buy weapons for Hamas.

Top 5 economic milestones that show HOW BAD Bidenomics has made the economy

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From groceries to house prices, everything seems to get more expensive, and you can thank Biden for that. Glenn recently exposed the truth about 'Bidenomics' and the havoc it has wrought on the American economy. Here are five economic milestones during the Biden administration that expose the glaring track record of "Bidenomics:"

In July 2022, the inflation rate hit 9.1 percent, a 40-year record high.

In June 2022, gas hit an all time record high of $5 a gallon for the national average.

61 percent of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck as of this September.

Interest rates reached a 15-year high at 5.25 percent and are still increasing.

Americans have $1 trillion in collective credit card debt, in part due to food/staple pieces being very high.