Is a ‘Win’ in Afghanistan Even Possible at This Point?

President Donald Trump addressed the nation Monday night to give an update on the conflict in Afghanistan that left many uneasy.

While he criticized President Barack Obama during his campaign for not pulling U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, Trump announced not only that U.S. military would remain in the region, but also that the number of troops deployed there would increase.

“My original instinct was to pull out. And historically, I like following my instincts,” Trump said. “But all my life I’ve heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office, in other words, when you’re President of the United States.”

On radio Tuesday, Glenn, Pat and Stu debated whether or not victory is possible in Afghanistan, which is the longest conflict in American history.

“I think it should have been over 15 years ago,” Glenn said, later adding that “the point of war is to win and then to stop future wars.”

Pat agreed that the U.S. should have left after dealing with the problem.

“Fight it all out. Do the ‘shock and awe’ that you promised, only really do it, and then get out,” he said.

Stu was the only one with an opposing viewpoint, saying that “how do we win?” may be the wrong question at this point since the conflict in Afghanistan simply isn’t comparable to a war like World War II.

STU: Maybe. I don't know.

GLENN: Yeah. Stu is on a different page than I am on this Afghanistan thing. I think it should have been over 15 years ago.

PAT: Me too.

Fighting to win, fight it all out. Do the shock and awe that you promised. Only, really do it, and then get out.

I hate what they're doing now. And that's -- that's the problem, is they're not going to fight this the right way. They're not -- we're not going to -- we don't fight wars to win anymore.

GLENN: This doesn't teach anybody anything, except they can bleed us to death. It doesn't teach anybody anything. You go in --

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: The point of war is to win and then to stop future wars. So you go in and you fight it with everything you have and you take the breath away from the enemy until they say, "Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Stop. Stop. Stop." And then you stop and say to the whole world, "Don't do that to us. Don't try to bring down our buildings with our people in them, because we will do this again."

Now, you've paid the price, I think you've learned your lesson, we're moving on. Good luck to you. Leave us alone, and we will leave you alone.

That's the way you fight and win the war and the peace. How is this -- how is this going to -- what does a win look like, Stu?

STU: I'm coming to a point where I think that's the wrong question. And I know this is -- you know, I'm totally on the not mainstream of this room end of the audience. So I enter this completely knowing that.

GLENN: That's fine.

STU: But, you know, I don't know what a win looks like. I know what a win looked like in World War II. Right? World War II, we won. The Nazis are gone. We knocked them out. We won. Eighty million people died for that.

And while I -- I -- I'm really glad we won, which war would you rather have? A win in World War II or this, where we have lost 2,400 of our best people? And you can't not overstate how important that is. But it is different than 80 million.

PAT: Well, if you're going to compare the civilian casualties in enemy as well as ours, then you've got to make the death toll higher than that in Afghanistan. Because it's a lot higher than that.

STU: Yeah. Activist groups say about a million and a half.

PAT: Which in a country like Afghanistan, it's a lot of freaking people.

STU: It's really significant. I will say, that's an activist estimate that I don't believe. But still, it's hundreds of thousands likely.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: But, again, I mean, I don't know.

GLENN: So why are we killing them, again? Help me out.

STU: Well, look, if you -- I mean, this is -- we have 12 seconds here before we have to go to break so I don't think --

GLENN: That's why I asked you. So that way -- there's no way you can win. See --

STU: I kind of got that.

JEFFY: So wrong.

GLENN: -- this is what a win looks like.

STU: Really. This is it? Okay? I got it.

GLENN: Yes. You give? You give? Say uncle.

STU: Never!

There is an economic collapse of third-world proportions on America's horizon. Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden hinted at it in statements last week: "Capitalism … has not been serving our economy as well as it should" and "We're about to … literally change the trajectory of our nation for years and possibly decades to come."

The changes the Democratic Party already has in the works are clearly destructive. You have felt it over the last year and a half, in a small supply chain inconvenience here, an incremental price rise there. You've sensed that something is very wrong. It's rumblings of the Great Reset.

Tonight on "Glenn TV," Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to break down how America's traditional economic strengths are being severely undermined and, in many ways, systematically torn down by the Biden administration and Democrats in Congress.

This is not "building back better"; this is a managed decline to bring America down to the rest of the world's standard of living. Glenn challenges: Don't let them convince you these are just first world problems. That's the point. America IS a wealthy nation, but we are heading quickly into a second- and third-world collapse. Glenn provides solutions for the managed decline and how you can prepare for the reset that is already in motion.

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On the radio program Tuesday, Glenn Beck broke down today's inflation, explaining what it is and giving proof that those at the top — politicians and world elite — continue to take advantage of our declining economy to advance their own agenda. He also revealed how a recent decision by Citibank and powerful investment management company, BlackRock, not only puts the U.S. further behind but also allows for China to gain worldwide control.

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For the first time in the history of "The Glenn Beck Program," former President Donald Trump joined Glenn to give his take on America's direction under President Joe Biden compared to his own administration. He explained why Biden's horrific Afghanistan withdrawal was "not even a little bit" like his plan, and why he thinks it was "the most embarrassing event in the history of our country."

Plus, the former president gave his opinion on China's potential takeover of Bagram Air Base, the Pakistani Prime Minister, and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Glenn asked President Trump how similar the Biden administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan was to his administration's plan.

"Not even a little bit," Trump answered. "We had a great plan, but it was a very tenuous plan. It was based on many conditions. For instance, you can't kill American soldiers. ... You have to understand, I did want to get out. But I wanted to get out with dignity, and I wanted to take our equipment out. And I didn't want soldiers killed. ... What [Biden] did was just indefensible. He took the military out first and he left all the people. And then we became beggars to get the people out. I had a plan to get them out very quickly. But first, the Americans would go out."

Trump told Glenn that his plan included maintaining Bagram Air Base and explained why he would not have left "a single nail" behind in Afghanistan for the Taliban to seize.

"We were going to keep Bagram open," he explained. "We were never going to close that because, frankly, Bagram is more about China than it is about Afghanistan. It was practically on the other border of China. And now we've lost that. And you know who is taking it over? China is taking it over. We spend $10 billion to build that base. It's got the longest, most powerful runways in the world. And China has now got its representatives there and it looks like they'll take it over. Glenn, it's not believable what's happened. You know, they have Apache helicopters. These are really expensive weapons, and they have 28 of them. And they're brand-new. The latest model."

Glenn mentioned recent reports that Gen. Milley, America's top military officer, made "secret phone calls" to his counterpart in China while President Trump was in office.

"I learned early on that he was a dope," Trump said of Gen. Milley. "He made a statement to me — and I guarantee that's what happened to Biden — because I said, 'We're getting out of Afghanistan. We have to do it.' And I said, 'I want every nail. I want every screw. I want every bolt. I want every plane. I want every tank. I want it all out, down to the nails, screws, bolts ... I want every single thing. And he said, 'Sir, it's cheaper to leave it than it is to bring it.'

"The airplane might have cost $40 million, $50 million ... millions and millions of dollars. So, you think it's cheaper to leave it than to have 200 pilots fly over and fly all the equipment out? ... I said, you've got to be nuts. I mean, give me a tank of gas and a pilot and I just picked up a $40 million-dollar airplane. It was amazing. So, I learned early that this guy is a dope. But what he did, is he hurt our country ... and he shouldn't have been allowed to do it. And bad things should happen to him."

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In a shocking but underreported conversation ahead of the G7 Speakers' meeting in London last week, Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitted that the administration knows China is committing "genocide" against the Uyghurs in the Xinjiang region, but thinks working with the regime on climate change is more important.

On the radio program, an outraged Glenn Beck dissected Pelosi's speech and broke down how — along with the Biden administration's abandonment of Americans in Afghanistan, and the Democrat decision to follow measures of medical "equity" — the far left is revealing how little they really care about human life.

Glenn played a video clip of Pelosi making the following statement:

We've always felt connected to China, but with their military aggression in the South China Sea, with their continuation of genocide with the Uyghurs in Xinjiang province there, with their violation of the cultural, linguistic, religious priority of Tibet, with their suppression of democracy in Hong Kong and other parts of China, as well – they're just getting worse in terms of suppression, and freedom of speech. So, human rights, security, economically [sic].

Having said all of that ... we have to work together on climate. Climate is an overriding issue and China is the leading emitter in the world, the U.S. too and developed world too, but we must work together.

"We have Nancy Pelosi admitting the United States of America knows that they're not only committing [genocide], they're continuing to commit it. Which means, we've known for a while," Glenn noted. "And what does she say? She goes on to say, yes, they're committing genocide against the Uyghurs, but having said that, I'm quoting, 'the overriding issue,' is working together on climate change.

"Would we have worked with Hitler on climate change? Would we have worked with Hitler on developing the bomb? Would we have worked with Hitler on developing the Autobahn? Would we have worked with Hitler on his socialized medicine? Would we have worked with Hitler on any of his national, socialist ideas?" he asked.

"The answer is no. No. When you're committing genocide, no! She said 'we have to work together on climate,' because climate is the 'overriding issue.' The overriding issue? There is no way to describe this mindset. That, yes, they are killing an entire group of people because of their ethnicity or religion. They are systematically rounding them up, using them for slave labor, and killing them, using their organs and selling them on the open market. They are nothing more than cattle. For us to recognize it and do nothing about it is bad enough. But to say, 'we recognize it, but we have bigger things to talk to them about,' is a horror show."

Glenn went on to urge Americans to "stand up together in love, peace, and harmony," or risk watching our nation become the worst plague on human life yet.

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