GLENN: So the alt-left, Antifa, is growing here in the United States in Philadelphia. They just had a big meeting. They're going to eradicate 21st century slavery. What is that?
Well, they want a revolutionary abolitionist movement. They're raising funds now for an underground railroad to help people escape the state because, quote, the Civil War was never resolved. And the system of slavery just transitioned into the prison industrial complex.
So they're going to help, I guess, prisoners escape in an underground railroad. And they are basing themselves in Philadelphia because of Philadelphia's rich revolutionary tradition. They are -- they're calling now -- they had workshops. They're calling the police our enemies in blue.
They're seeking to abolish all gender. They're calling on members of Antifa to steal tools and lands so they can build their own state independent of the United States. And they plan to build local defense teams and councils.
They also are extolling the revolutionary movement in Syria. They say that they are going to build a worldwide movement towards communism. They are -- they -- they're dressed up in all black. They're carrying machine guns. The video is absolutely astounding. It looks like an ISIS video.
That's what the press says is fine. Antifa. That's going to come back and backfire on them. America is not a place that looks at communists and says, "Well, they're better than the Nazis. Or the Nazis, they're better than the communists." No, we made this decision a long time ago. For 50 years, we fought this war. First against the Nazis, then against the communists. They're both bad. And it seems like you can't get that message anywhere in the United States.
Instead, where is that message coming from? Places like Poland. Poland is more United States than the United States is. You don't believe me? I have the deputy prime minister of Poland on with us. And we begin, right now.
GLENN: Poland's deputy prime minister, Mateusz Jakub Morawiecki is with us.
Welcome, Prime Minister, how are you, sir? Do I call you Deputy Prime Minister? I'm not sure what the protocol is.
MATEUSZ: Both is okay. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. I'm very fine.
How are you?
GLENN: Very good. We're glad you're here in the United States. I know you've been talking to key business leaders and political leaders in the United States. And I appreciate you taking some time out and talking to me.
I am impressed with the former Soviet republics. Because they know what's happening in the world.
Can you tell me your view from across the water on the things that you're seeing happening here in America -- and I don't want to make this about politics -- but what do you see that is growing up within our ranks that concerns you?
MATEUSZ: Sure. Even these days, very big military exercise starting done by Mr. Putin, which is indicating how dangerous and how aggressive Russia may be. And we should not forget about this Russian hacks on emails and all what they are doing in the (inaudible) unconventional war. And Ukraine is indicating that they -- they -- this is still their main way, how they do politics.
Like today, Poland is a safe country. We are a strong country. But we -- we need very close cooperation, like we have -- we have historically all the way from (inaudible), we have fought during the War of Independence. And then in -- our soldiers are in Iraq and in Afghanistan, together hand in hand with American soldiers.
And there are all the idealists who think maybe we should not think about the defense policy too much because everybody wants to live in a peaceful world. It's great. But this is not true.
And this is -- this is one aspect, how I think that proximity to Russia, we can explain how -- how difficult it is. And, you know, the proximity is really like, if there was between New Jersey and New York, we can feel the hot breath of Russia there on our neck.
GLENN: So tell me what that means. Talking to the deputy prime minister of Poland. Tell me what that means to you. Because here in America, we've been so isolated. And our universities have stopped teaching that -- well, I don't know if they ever did. But teaching that communism is bad and a -- a killer that is only surpassed by disease.
You lived through it. The people of Poland lived through it. Tell me what America should know about communists.
MATEUSZ: Of course, we lived through this. And, well, like I myself was imprisoned. And my father who was fighting in the solidarity times during the '80s, he was in prison for a long time.
And the transformation, which started in 1989, was by far not complete because the same -- I just give you an example. The same judges who have maybe passing sentences on the -- the fighters for freedom in the '80s, like my father or myself or many of my friends, the same judges are today judges in the Supreme Court.
This is what happens in -- if the -- if there is not real deep transformation in a system.
Which is -- which is -- which was okay because there was not any bloody revolution in 1989, 1990. But then I asked everybody to understand why we would like to have this second transformation today. And why we have the worst -- the worst judiciary system amongst all the 28 countries of the European Union, and we want to deeply reform this. And then the counterattack of all our enemies is -- is so visible. And who is among -- amongst those -- those attacking us? Of course, companies. And top companies are there because they feel very well in a system which is vague, which is not based on meritocracy, which is based on corporationism, as we call it in Poland. Lots of dependencies on different corporations, lawyers, judges, and so on.
And we don't like -- we want the system to be more republican, more democratic. And this is why we have so many incomprehensions around us and misunderstandings.
GLENN: Are you concerned at all, deputy prime minister of Poland, are you concerned at all about the rise of heritage groups, as they're calling themselves? You know, the Javax (phonetic) Party or Golden Dawn here in the United States, the Nazi Party? We've got extremists on both sides. And it's in some ways starting to look like the 1930s or 1920s in Europe all around the world. Are you concerned about the rise on both sides?
MATEUSZ: I am concerned about the rise on both sides. And in Europe, it's -- it's particularly visible on the left side. But there is also some examples on the right, like Marine Le Pen in France.
Therefore, first prerequisite for safe Poland, safe Europe, safe world is to prevent terrorist attacks and to really deal with the mass migration and policy like Australia did or like America did. Australia has managed to stop the flow by securing its own borders. And the European borders resident secure. Millions of refugees come every -- every year to -- to Europe. And then you can see all those pictures of terror attacks all over the place, particularly in France or Germany. Poland is safe. We don't have it.
GLENN: Right. Why is Poland -- if I'm not mistaken, you're the only main country in Europe that has not been hit by a terrorist attack. Why?
MATEUSZ: Yeah, yeah, that's correct. Absolutely. Recently in Spain, in Barcelona. Before that, in the UK in many places, in France, and in Italy, and Germany. So we are the only of the six countries, which did not experience terror.
MATEUSZ: This is because we -- we treat security with -- very seriously. We do not allow for the Islamic migrants and Islamic refugees to come without very thorough scrutiny by our -- by our social security and so on. Sorry about -- secret service and our special services for those activities. And this is -- and this is the main reason: Germans and French, our friends and partners, they have allowed virtually millions of those refugees. And most of them, there are many decent people, good people. But unfortunately, there are many not-so-decent people, very bad people.
And they are -- they are attacking in all sorts -- in many different ways. They're attacking our civilization. They hate Christianity. They hate Europe.
So I think that we have the right -- we are the -- the heart of the Christian civilization. And we have the right and obligation to defend it for the next generation. So we can allow for -- for -- of course, for migrants. And, for instance, in Europe -- sorry, in Poland, we do our job too. Because we -- we have accommodated one and a half million Ukrainian population. Many of them are refugees from eastern part of Ukraine, where there is war. Because Ukraine was attacked by Russia. So we are doing our part. We contribute to calming down the situation. And we go the middle road. We try to persuade our partners in Brussels, that this -- the refugee policy is very dangerous for -- for the whole of Europe. And we have to preserve our borders. We have to have safe countries.
GLENN: I'm talking to the deputy prime minister of Poland. How concerned are you that if the world doesn't wake up, we are going to be reaping the seeds that are being sown right now. And perhaps that ends in yet another global conflict.
MATEUSZ: Well, this is -- probably to your opening remarks, the situation is probably not that bad as it was in the '30s with Hitler and Stalin and the weak democracies and so on. But I am concerned that the situation might go in the wrong direction.
MATEUSZ: Therefore, there is this old Latin saying (foreign language), which is, you know, we have to be well-armed and well-equipped. And we have to contribute to military spending. And, by the way, Poland is not amongst the five richest countries in NATO. But we make sure to be one of the five who comply with the two percentage points of GDP military spending rule, which was -- which was actually realized by President Trump when he was in Warsaw just two months ago. And we are a very, very reliable ally. And I think Article V of the Washington treaty is a very important element of the whole architecture of peace going forward.
Another one is also dealing with the security of our own borders, like America does, like Australia does.
But in Europe, many countries are not doing their part. So our advice to our European friends is to really concentrate on our own security and to eliminate all those extremes from the left and from the right.
Some of them, they have to be brought to the table. And persuaded in a civilized way. But some of them who are really extremists in France and in German, some Islamic parties and so on, they should be taken under a microscope and should be so -- we should be so vigilant about them as never before.
GLENN: Poland's Deputy Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki. Thank you so much, sir. I appreciate it.
MATEUSZ: If I could just add one sentence, on behalf of the government of the Republic of Poland, I would like to express my sincere condolences on the terrible tragedy caused by the Hurricane Harvey. So we are very sad about this. And if the government of Poland could do anything to help our American friends, our -- the people from America, we could -- we could do everything possible at our -- at our end.
GLENN: Gosh, that's nice to hear. Thank you so much. We appreciate that.
MATEUSZ: Thank you.
GLENN: We can tell that was heartfelt.
MATEUSZ: Thanks for having me.
PAT: He's a class act.
GLENN: Yeah. And I think you can hear, you know, why is he over here in America? What are they doing? Obviously, they are worried about the bear. Obviously, they are worried about what is coming on their own border. And they are looking to find some allies in America. They are more America today than we are. And they're looking for some allies in America who is going to say, "Hey, is anybody going to help us stand?" Because the big, bad wolf -- or in this case, the big, bad bear is coming back.